Andy Dufresne
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The Tommyknockers caused me to stop reading Stephen King.
I actually like the ending to IT, except for that one part of course. This is one of the vanishingly few Stephen King books that I actually ends in kind of a cool, satisfying way.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I liked this!A Prayer for Owen Meany
That surprises me. You had this big build up between good and evil, and then no battle. Nothing the good characters did made any difference.I actually like the ending to IT, except for that one part of course. This is one of the vanishingly few Stephen King books that I actually ends in kind of a cool, satisfying way.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I might be biased by the fact that I like the rest of the book so much. My main recollection of the ending is the way that everybody just forgot again. That's really poignant and hits differently when the book as an aging adult. Or at least it did for me.That surprises me. You had this big build up between good and evil, and then no battle. Nothing the good characters did made any difference.I actually like the ending to IT, except for that one part of course. This is one of the vanishingly few Stephen King books that I actually ends in kind of a cool, satisfying way.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
To me it would be like watching the first Rocky movie and after all of Rocky's prep, and all the training, the bell rings and as Creed steps towards the middle of the ring he slips and breaks his leg. Leaving Rocky as the champ.
Have you read The Red Pony? I had to quit after about three chapters because it was so bad. Flat out refuse to try any more.I liked it so much so that I ended up reading basically everything Steinbeck ever wrote. For the most part I thought they were all hits.
I have to come back to this post just to explain why I like Orwell so much. I know people are naturally going to assume that it's because of the political themes of 1984 and Animal Farm, and that's not unreasonable. But lots of writers far inferior to Orwell have tackled "dystopian future" scenarios. It's not just that.I originally gave this a Like for the James Joyce hate, but I removed the Like for the Orwell hate.Ulysses by James Joyce. It was assigned in an English Lit class when I was in High School. A few years later, I thought "maybe I was just too young to get Joyce" and read Finnegans Wake. Nope. 14 year-old me was right.
Also, anything by George Orwell. I gave him two chances, too.
I don't think I've ever met someone who disliked both of these gentlemen. They are about the most diametrically opposed writers that I can imagine, in terms of style. Well, maybe Joyce and Hemingway.
Everything this guy ever wrote is straightforward and direct, with no unnecessary fluff
"I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
Here it is in modern English:
Objective consideration of contemporary phenomena compels the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account.
If their lives didn't overlap, I might be talked into the proposition that Christopher Hitchens was George Orwell reincarnated. The two of them are so similar it's eerie.
Dan Brown is like M Night Shyamalan.The DaVinci Code. I'm dumber for having read it.
The Tommyknockers caused me to stop reading Stephen King.
I don't think so. I may have to check it out, thanks!Have you read The Red Pony? I had to quit after about three chapters because it was so bad. Flat out refuse to try any more.I liked it so much so that I ended up reading basically everything Steinbeck ever wrote. For the most part I thought they were all hits.
The Red Pony is easily the worst book experience I ever had.Have you read The Red Pony? I had to quit after about three chapters because it was so bad. Flat out refuse to try any more.I liked it so much so that I ended up reading basically everything Steinbeck ever wrote. For the most part I thought they were all hits.
Never did read Moby **** but Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener are enough Melville for me thank you very much. I would prefer not to.Rant on.
Books I had to read for class: The Scarlet Letter, The Old Man and the Sea, and The Bridge of San Luis Rey (Thornton WIlder).
Books that I figured life was too short to bother: Moby ****, War and Peace, and Siddharta. (I went through a Hesse period; but when I got to the pointlessness that is Siddharta, I quit forever.)
Also, Time Enough for Love by Heinlein. Creepy and pointless. And Rendezvous With Rama by Clarke. The only thing that book had to say was, "Aliens exist." It only needed the one sentence. Nothing else happens.
What book, and did you like it?The Red Pony is easily the worst book experience I ever had.Have you read The Red Pony? I had to quit after about three chapters because it was so bad. Flat out refuse to try any more.I liked it so much so that I ended up reading basically everything Steinbeck ever wrote. For the most part I thought they were all hits.
In 7th grade, we had this thing called electronic bookshelf where you read books, took a quiz to prove you read them, and then got points which determined your grade. Most books were worth 1 point, but long books or classics were worth 2 or 3. The Red Pony was the shortest 2-pointer by far, so I saw it as a nice shortcut to an A.
Awful read. The red pony dies early on, taking with it any semblance of a plot, and the last quarter of the book or so is just an old man rambling about injuns.
We also had to write book reports on 2 of the books we read, and since I was trying to game the system I had only read 2. I was so intent on not writing about The Red Pony that I frantically plowed through an entire additional book the night before the deadline.
Just an interesting dichotomy.
Never did read Moby **** but Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener are enough Melville for me thank you very much. I would prefer not to.
I don’t remember the title, but it was about a high school baseball team, and I was enjoying the book up until the star player died in a car accident the night after they won the championship. I was exhausted from the all-nighter and totally unprepared for the dark twist, and I couldn’t hold back the tears.What book, and did you like it?
I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse.
A Confederacy of Dunces
I’m sorry. I know a lot of you love this book. I own a copy. Every 5 years or so I pick it up and give it an honest try.
But it’s a rambling combination of words that end up being a crap salad. Terrible book.
I was forced to read Grapes of Wrath. But, then again, there were many books that I was forced to read that I really liked - Vonnegut is awesome, loved Shakespeare, and Night is the most impactful book I've ever read and probably ever will. I don't regard this as a disqualifier.There’s probably several that we were forced to read for English Lit but I’m assuming you mean more for pleasure. If so, then I can’t think of any as I would have stopped reading if I hated it.
As an addendum I feel totally vindicated since Steinbeck is the lead in this unreadable dreck thread.
Oh, dog, no.Bartleby the Scrivener
Gee. Ya think?One of the best happy accidents of my childhood was a clueless aunt (I believe Uncle Rod, often in our foursome, referred to his spouse as a dingbat) bought me Breakfast of Champions for my 11th birthday. She thought it was a book about sports, and she knew I loved books and I loved sports.
Opened up a whole new world for me.
Gee. Ya think?One of the best happy accidents of my childhood was a clueless aunt (I believe Uncle Rod, often in our foursome, referred to his spouse as a dingbat) bought me Breakfast of Champions for my 11th birthday. She thought it was a book about sports, and she knew I loved books and I loved sports.
Opened up a whole new world for me.
Did you enjoy the drawing of a beaver?
Yep. I forgot about that one. Didn't care for A Separate Peace either.Catcher in the Rye is garbage.
You just made the list pal.A Confederacy of Dunces
I’m sorry. I know a lot of you love this book. I own a copy. Every 5 years or so I pick it up and give it an honest try.
But it’s a rambling combination of words that end up being a crap salad. Terrible book.
Now watch the movie.The DaVinci Code. I'm dumber for having read it.
I can’t stand king. He is the anti Orwell. He’ll turn “the room was dark”, into 12 pages.Whoa. This is my favorite book of all-time. Have happily read all 1093 pages multiple times.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I'm racking my brain for an answer, but I truly believe every book I didn't enjoy I just stopped reading. Even recalling back to college or high school where teachers required certain books to be read, I can't remember one being really awful I hate it by the end. Maybe The Odyssey if I had to pick one but, frankly, that's because I disliked my teacher and she focused on that book for a large part of the semester.
I like books (though law school killed any desire that I have to read for "fun").
When Stephen King passes, the ensuing debates about his legacy as a writer are going to be fascinating. There's no doubt that he's written a lot of mediocre books and more than his fair share of dreck. But if you pick from the upper tier, you can assemble of body of work that any author not named Hemingway or Nabakov would be proud of.I can’t stand king. He is the anti Orwell. He’ll turn “the room was dark”, into 12 pages.Whoa. This is my favorite book of all-time. Have happily read all 1093 pages multiple times.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I'm racking my brain for an answer, but I truly believe every book I didn't enjoy I just stopped reading. Even recalling back to college or high school where teachers required certain books to be read, I can't remember one being really awful I hate it by the end. Maybe The Odyssey if I had to pick one but, frankly, that's because I disliked my teacher and she focused on that book for a large part of the semester.
I like books (though law school killed any desire that I have to read for "fun").
OMG. I just realized that it was 'The Stand' that I meant had the poor ending, and not 'It'.When Stephen King passes, the ensuing debates about his legacy as a writer are going to be fascinating. There's no doubt that he's written a lot of mediocre books and more than his fair share of dreck. But if you pick from the upper tier, you can assemble of body of work that any author not named Hemingway or Nabakov would be proud of.I can’t stand king. He is the anti Orwell. He’ll turn “the room was dark”, into 12 pages.Whoa. This is my favorite book of all-time. Have happily read all 1093 pages multiple times.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I'm racking my brain for an answer, but I truly believe every book I didn't enjoy I just stopped reading. Even recalling back to college or high school where teachers required certain books to be read, I can't remember one being really awful I hate it by the end. Maybe The Odyssey if I had to pick one but, frankly, that's because I disliked my teacher and she focused on that book for a large part of the semester.
I like books (though law school killed any desire that I have to read for "fun").
For example, I would argue that It and The Stand are legitimate all-time classics that are likely to still be read 50 years from now. Probably ditto for The Shining and Salems Lot.
Or, consider the Bachman Books. These are four novellas written under an assumed name, but look at how much cultural significance is packed into a volume that most people barely even remember:
Did The Tommyknockers suck? Yep. Does King know how to write an ending? Nope. Is the median King novel essentially an airplane book? I think so. Should Stephen King be kept far, far away from movie sets? Definitely. But there are some real gems there.
- The Long Walk. This story has absolutely no mindshare among the general public, and it is almost never mentioned when discussing King's work, but pretty much ever male our age knows this story and has opinions about it.
- The Running Man. The movie was great, cheesy, 1980s fun. But everybody who has read the novella remembers the click-clack of the typewriters, the envelopes, the black Irish, the airplane, etc. The book barely even resembles the movie, and while the movie is good, the book is an order of magnitude better.
- Roadwork. Okay, not every short novel is memorable.
- The fourth story (Rage) is no longer available for sale anywhere, but you can make a strong argument that it had more impact on American culture than any work of fiction written by any author in the second half of the 20th century.
I also enjoyed War and Peace, FWIW.Never did read Moby **** but Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener are enough Melville for me thank you very much. I would prefer not to.Rant on.
Books I had to read for class: The Scarlet Letter, The Old Man and the Sea, and The Bridge of San Luis Rey (Thornton WIlder).
Books that I figured life was too short to bother: Moby ****, War and Peace, and Siddharta. (I went through a Hesse period; but when I got to the pointlessness that is Siddharta, I quit forever.)
Also, Time Enough for Love by Heinlein. Creepy and pointless. And Rendezvous With Rama by Clarke. The only thing that book had to say was, "Aliens exist." It only needed the one sentence. Nothing else happens.
I liked War and Peace but Anna Karenina was more enjoyable for me. Siddhartha is a regular read for me. I pick it up again every few years.
I about crapped myself about a month ago when i came across a hardcover of The Bachman books at our small town library for $1. Someone must have recently donated it.When Stephen King passes, the ensuing debates about his legacy as a writer are going to be fascinating. There's no doubt that he's written a lot of mediocre books and more than his fair share of dreck. But if you pick from the upper tier, you can assemble of body of work that any author not named Hemingway or Nabakov would be proud of.I can’t stand king. He is the anti Orwell. He’ll turn “the room was dark”, into 12 pages.Whoa. This is my favorite book of all-time. Have happily read all 1093 pages multiple times.Stephen King's 'IT' has such a poor ending. The book started off decently enough but starts to get a little uninteresting towards the end. It seems like he wrote himself into a corner and just gives us a lazy, poor ending. Total letdown. Do not waste your time.
I'm racking my brain for an answer, but I truly believe every book I didn't enjoy I just stopped reading. Even recalling back to college or high school where teachers required certain books to be read, I can't remember one being really awful I hate it by the end. Maybe The Odyssey if I had to pick one but, frankly, that's because I disliked my teacher and she focused on that book for a large part of the semester.
I like books (though law school killed any desire that I have to read for "fun").
For example, I would argue that It and The Stand are legitimate all-time classics that are likely to still be read 50 years from now. Probably ditto for The Shining and Salems Lot.
Or, consider the Bachman Books. These are four novellas written under an assumed name, but look at how much cultural significance is packed into a volume that most people barely even remember:
Did The Tommyknockers suck? Yep. Does King know how to write an ending? Nope. Is the median King novel essentially an airplane book? I think so. Should Stephen King be kept far, far away from movie sets? Definitely. But there are some real gems there.
- The Long Walk. This story has absolutely no mindshare among the general public, and it is almost never mentioned when discussing King's work, but pretty much ever male our age knows this story and has opinions about it.
- The Running Man. The movie was great, cheesy, 1980s fun. But everybody who has read the novella remembers the click-clack of the typewriters, the envelopes, the black Irish, the airplane, etc. The book barely even resembles the movie, and while the movie is good, the book is an order of magnitude better.
- Roadwork. Okay, not every short novel is memorable.
- The fourth story (Rage) is no longer available for sale anywhere, but you can make a strong argument that it had more impact on American culture than any work of fiction written by any author in the second half of the 20th century.
I took Advanced English in HS and the guy teaching the class came from a family of wealth and on at least two occasions flew to NYC for the weekend and taught the class on Monday in a tuxedo because he got off the plane about 7am after a couple of all nighters. Anyhow, he was a man of culture and thought we should be too so he foisted upon us his love for the classics. We read Anna Karenina, War and Peace, Crime and Punishment, The Death of Ivan Ilych and Other Stories and all the other tomes that aspiring juniors & seniors in HS relish. We had a lot fun in case but it was always a race to get the cliff notes before they all sold out so you could get your C on the book report.I once told myself I was going to read more of the classics so I picked up Anna Karenina. Hate may be a bit of a strong word, but man it was a slog to finish it.
I loved War and Peace and Anna Karenina. Tolstoy has some great short stories and novellas too if the length is the thing turning people off.I also enjoyed War and Peace, FWIW.Never did read Moby **** but Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener are enough Melville for me thank you very much. I would prefer not to.Rant on.
Books I had to read for class: The Scarlet Letter, The Old Man and the Sea, and The Bridge of San Luis Rey (Thornton WIlder).
Books that I figured life was too short to bother: Moby ****, War and Peace, and Siddharta. (I went through a Hesse period; but when I got to the pointlessness that is Siddharta, I quit forever.)
Also, Time Enough for Love by Heinlein. Creepy and pointless. And Rendezvous With Rama by Clarke. The only thing that book had to say was, "Aliens exist." It only needed the one sentence. Nothing else happens.
I liked War and Peace but Anna Karenina was more enjoyable for me. Siddhartha is a regular read for me. I pick it up again every few years.
Nabakov? Hemingway?When Stephen King passes, the ensuing debates about his legacy as a writer are going to be fascinating. There's no doubt that he's written a lot of mediocre books and more than his fair share of dreck. But if you pick from the upper tier, you can assemble of body of work that any author not named Hemingway or Nabakov would be proud of.
War and Peace is a fantastic novel. I think because it is long it has become shorthand for boring. It is anything but boring.I also enjoyed War and Peace, FWIW.
This one was a DNF for me, but I decided that I was reading it wrong. Had it on the Kindle, but that did not work well with all of the footnotes. Been on the list to try again fresh with a physical copy.I am pleasantly surprised that no one has mentioned Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. I assume that's because no one has actually read it in its entirety.
This one was a DNF for me, but I decided that I was reading it wrong. Had it on the Kindle, but that did not work well with all of the footnotes. Been on the list to try again fresh with a physical copy.I am pleasantly surprised that no one has mentioned Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. I assume that's because no one has actually read it in its entirety.
King has said that it is embarrassingly bad, and that he was doing so much cocaine at the time that he doesn't even remember writing it.The Tommyknockers caused me to stop reading Stephen King.
I wouldn't say I hated it but it's probably my least favorite King book.
Yeah, I did not realize what I was getting into. I think I saw it as a Kindle Daily Deal for $1.99, and thought, ooh, good deal. Then realized why it was not.This one was a DNF for me, but I decided that I was reading it wrong. Had it on the Kindle, but that did not work well with all of the footnotes. Been on the list to try again fresh with a physical copy.I am pleasantly surprised that no one has mentioned Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. I assume that's because no one has actually read it in its entirety.
I can't even imagine tackling that on a kindle. There's so much of the story in the footnotes