THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Very curious to see everyones TOP 6 dynasty rookie wr's now.
Well just make it the 5 after CALVIN
1.Calvin
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6.
Well just make it the 5 after CALVIN
1.Calvin
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Given what you know NOW....Who are your top 6 dynasty rookie wr's (1 Viewer)
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RonnieBrown23
Footballguy
1. Calvin
2. Craig Davis
3. Anthony Gonzalez
4. Jacoby Jones
5. James Jones
6. Dwayne Bowe/Dwayne Jarrett
2. Craig Davis
3. Anthony Gonzalez
4. Jacoby Jones
5. James Jones
6. Dwayne Bowe/Dwayne Jarrett
Pocket Joker
Footballguy
Is this for a rookie draft?
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Just sking who are your top 5 rookie wr's in dynasty.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
mines are:
1.Calvin
2.Bowe
3.Gonzales
4.Jacoby
5.CDavis
1.Calvin
2.Bowe
3.Gonzales
4.Jacoby
5.CDavis
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Disclaimer: I don't play dynasty. So I'm just guessing & having some fun here.
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Anthony Gonzalez
3. Craig Davis
4. Sidney Rice
5. Ted Ginn (just you wait, unbelievers!)
6. Dwayne Bowe
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Anthony Gonzalez
3. Craig Davis
4. Sidney Rice
5. Ted Ginn (just you wait, unbelievers!)
6. Dwayne Bowe
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The Shizzle
Footballguy
Has Calvin Johnson proving anything yet that he is a #1 consensus pick?
Don't get me wrong, he seems like he will be great, but he hasn't truly impressed me yet in the NFL.
Don't get me wrong, he seems like he will be great, but he hasn't truly impressed me yet in the NFL.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
What rookie WR has?Nobody's really had the chance to show much.
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LILB811
Footballguy
Have any of the other guys proven anything yet either? None of them have even played a regular season game yet. Best guess:1. Calvin Johnson2. Anthony Gonzalez3. Dwayne Bowe4. Craig Davis5. Sidney Rice
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Calvin Johnson
James Jones
Jacoby Jones
Dwayne Bowe
Craig Davis
Steve Smith
Dwayne Jarrett
James Jones
Jacoby Jones
Dwayne Bowe
Craig Davis
Steve Smith
Dwayne Jarrett
The Shizzle
Footballguy
James Jones, GB has been solid:Week 1 vs Pitt 6 for 58ydsWeek 2 vs Sea 4 for 58yds, 2 TD'sWeek 3 vs Jax 6 for 80ydsHe has seemed to pick things up quick, starting right away. Compared to some other rookies who haven't sterted, or just seem limited action.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Yes.
LILB811
Footballguy
You are right that James Jones has looked good thus far in the preseason. As far as best options for a dynasty league, I don't think he makes the list. There really is no future plan in Green Bay at the QB position, and I believe the other guys (Johnson, Bowe, Rice) with similar QB futures are more talented based on college. We'll see what happens at the NFL level.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Situation and talent. Why not? Peyton has started working him in already.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Talent always wins out of situation and Gonzalez is not a guy that gets good seperation.Not much has changed for me:1. CJ2. Robert Meachem3. Dwayne Bowe4. Sidney Rice5. Craig Davis
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Long term:
Calvin
Rice
Jacoby
Bowe
Meachem
Ginn
Calvin
Rice
Jacoby
Bowe
Meachem
Ginn
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prymetyme25
Footballguy
1. Calvin Johnson - How could he not be?
2. Sidney Rice - I dont own him in any league but i think he will be the 2nd best of this class.
3. Jacoby Jones - Homer alert!!! But I think he has that it factor!
4. Craig Davis - Starting his first year is gonna go a long way for him.
5. Ted Ginn Jr - IF this guy perfects his route runner OMG.
6. Laurent Robinson - I think he is the guy everyone overlooked in the draft and might look back and say how did we miss him.
These guys i still dont know about:
Steve Smith - If ginn doesnt pan out he would be the next that i would put in there
Anthony Gonzales - Just haven't see enough of him and they are not really using him much.
Robert Meachem - Wow I had him rank #2 during the draft, not so sure anymore.
Dwayne Bowe - Mentally I dont think he's ready for this game yet.
Dwayne Jarrett - Should be in the top 6 but then i'd have to take out Jones.
James Jones- Is it him or is it the Farve affect?
2. Sidney Rice - I dont own him in any league but i think he will be the 2nd best of this class.
3. Jacoby Jones - Homer alert!!! But I think he has that it factor!
4. Craig Davis - Starting his first year is gonna go a long way for him.
5. Ted Ginn Jr - IF this guy perfects his route runner OMG.
6. Laurent Robinson - I think he is the guy everyone overlooked in the draft and might look back and say how did we miss him.
These guys i still dont know about:
Steve Smith - If ginn doesnt pan out he would be the next that i would put in there
Anthony Gonzales - Just haven't see enough of him and they are not really using him much.
Robert Meachem - Wow I had him rank #2 during the draft, not so sure anymore.
Dwayne Bowe - Mentally I dont think he's ready for this game yet.
Dwayne Jarrett - Should be in the top 6 but then i'd have to take out Jones.
James Jones- Is it him or is it the Farve affect?
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I had Meachem #6 after the draft. I don't consider him top 10 at this point. This class is too talented for stragglers.
1. HIM
2. Gonzalez
Then this gets very tight. Interchange 3-9 anyhow you like. I won't argue.
3. Rice
4. Jarrett
5. Jones, James
6. Ginn
7. Jones, Jacoby
8. Bowe
9. Davis
10. Walker
11. Smith
12. Higgins
13. Robinson* -- never seen him play, so...
for bad situation.
14. Hill
This is a great class of WRs.
15. Meachem-- maybe
1. HIM
2. Gonzalez
Then this gets very tight. Interchange 3-9 anyhow you like. I won't argue.
3. Rice
4. Jarrett
5. Jones, James
6. Ginn
7. Jones, Jacoby
8. Bowe
9. Davis
10. Walker
11. Smith
12. Higgins
13. Robinson* -- never seen him play, so...
for bad situation.14. Hill
This is a great class of WRs.
15. Meachem-- maybe
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I can't believe it took this long to mention this guy. Andy, I'm a believer. Not so much as anything resembling a starter in FFB this year, but in a Dynasty, he maybe my #2 on that list....Andy Dufresne said:
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
He's a stud. That was Rashean Mathis with no prayer man on man against him last week.prymetyme25 said:
TheFanatic
Footballguy
1) CJ
2) Ginn
3) Craig Davis
4) Dwayne Jarrett
That's all I'm gonna list. The rest are a crap shoot to me. I think these guys will make it and the rest are up in the air....
2) Ginn
3) Craig Davis
4) Dwayne Jarrett
That's all I'm gonna list. The rest are a crap shoot to me. I think these guys will make it and the rest are up in the air....
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ginn = Eric Metcalf
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I have a feeling there may be more hype around Davis than substance. We'll see, but the little I saw was unimpressive. I defer to the camp reports and be positive for now, but his field presence when I did see him didn't live up to his current reputation. I took him in the 3rd round so I'm hopeful.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
I understand you on this that why I said the fact of him starting would be his greatest asset.
3C's
Footballguy
I saw a blurb on Fanball that has Floyd starting now, not Davis.
Then today they have this:Our ViewThe rookie will likely enter the year as the No. 3 or No. 4 wideout. He has a bright future, but barring injuries, Buster is likely to spend much of this season learning the ropes.
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Ray Pollett
Footballguy
Add one more that will make it in the NFL: Lance Moore NOS. May be starting for NOS by end of season.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Its the Favre effect. Take a look at his highlights, he's a guy with average size, average speed average quickness, ask yourself this question, who are Antonio Chatman and Terrence Murphy? My point exactly players that were hyped on this board as the next big Packers WR and never filled the bill. I really dont see James Jones beating out Jennings at this point.prymetyme25 said:
Marc Faletti
Footballguy
Jacoby Jones' pad speed is even faster than advertised. On top of that, he has the killer instinct as a returner and receiver,. And did you see that end zone catch vs. Dallas? I thought Bloom was going to give up his Brandon Marshall under-roos for a pair of Jacoby's. Seriously, though, he looks like a real star, and he's still raw.
CJ
Jacoby Jones
Anthony Gonzalez
James Jones (guy looks like he knows how to get open)
Steve Smith
Sidney Rice
CJ
Jacoby Jones
Anthony Gonzalez
James Jones (guy looks like he knows how to get open)
Steve Smith
Sidney Rice
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Thanks for the blurb. I think AJ Smith likes to hype his own greatness with false hype for his draft picks. Many of us were sort of blank when the Chargers took Davis (LSU's #3 WR) in the first round. I changed my rankings already. He falls way down.Also I said my rankings are tight and I wouldn't argue if you interchanged 3-8. I feel the same way about 9-13 and if you want to put Robinson in the top 8 that would be fine too. 3. Rice4. Jarrett5. Jones, James6. Ginn7. Jones, Jacoby8. Bowe9. Walker10. Smith11. Higgins12. Robinson* -- never seen him play, so...I saw a blurb on Fanball that has Floyd starting now, not Davis.Then today they have this:Our ViewThe rookie will likely enter the year as the No. 3 or No. 4 wideout. He has a bright future, but barring injuries, Buster is likely to spend much of this season learning the ropes.
for bad situation.13. Hill14. Davis15 MeachemTwo first rounders on the bottom.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Wow. That's some hype.
EBF
Footballguy
This is probably the toughest WR group to gauge that I can remember. Almost all of the guys selected on the first day appear to have the skills necessary to play in the NFL. That said, I probably favor these guys at this point (in no particular order):
Calvin Johnson - Beast.
Laurent Robinson - Has all the tools and already looks like a technician out there.
Jacoby Jones - Probably overhyped, but he has a chance to make an early impact and is an intriguing long-term guy.
Ted Ginn - Fluid athlete with rare speed.
Dwayne Jarrett - Would be a star if he was just a little bit stronger and faster. I'm not sure if he'll be a WR1 in the NFL, but he should eventually be a productive starter.
Sidney Rice - Wish he was a little faster and quicker, but he makes plays and was dominant in the SEC.
Steve Smith - Lighting it up in training camp. Will probably start in 2008. Would be making more noise if not for the presence of Toomer and Burress. My only concern is that for all his skills, he looks like more of a WR2 to me. We'll see.
James Jones - Hard to ignore the buzz. I missed the boat on him, but he knocked Ferguson off the roster and is reportedly looking better than Jennings did last season.
Close:
Dwayne Bowe - Solid athlete with nice upside. But is he Hines Ward without the hands?
Craig Davis - Intriguing player. Should develop into a solid starter. Doesn't appear to have any special qualities though.
Robert Meachem - Horrendous start, but you can't write him off yet. Has WR1 potential.
My guess is that at least one of Bowe, Davis, and Meachem will ultimately pan out. It would be somewhat rare for three first round WRs to bomb. I probably favor Bowe out of those three at the moment. I might be underrating him right now.
It would also be rare for three third round WRs to become solid NFL starters. But Jones, Jones, and Robinson are all playing very well. Is this just training camp hype? It's possible. Remember Mark Bradley? He led the NFL in preseason receiving yards as a rookie. I'm not getting carried away with these three yet, but they've certainly moved up my board.
The bizarre thing about this year's group is that while almost all of the prospects have a chance to be solid players, very few of them look like locks. So it's really difficult to rank these guys for the future. I can think of reasons why some of them will be stars, but I can also think of reasons why those same guys will bomb.
Robinson is probably my favorite of the non-CJ bunch because his price tag is relatively low and he has one of the most intriguing combinations of physical ability and football skills. He's the only rookie WR that I have on the majority of my dynasty teams, so I guess you could say he's the guy I'm placing my bets on.
Calvin Johnson - Beast.
Laurent Robinson - Has all the tools and already looks like a technician out there.
Jacoby Jones - Probably overhyped, but he has a chance to make an early impact and is an intriguing long-term guy.
Ted Ginn - Fluid athlete with rare speed.
Dwayne Jarrett - Would be a star if he was just a little bit stronger and faster. I'm not sure if he'll be a WR1 in the NFL, but he should eventually be a productive starter.
Sidney Rice - Wish he was a little faster and quicker, but he makes plays and was dominant in the SEC.
Steve Smith - Lighting it up in training camp. Will probably start in 2008. Would be making more noise if not for the presence of Toomer and Burress. My only concern is that for all his skills, he looks like more of a WR2 to me. We'll see.
James Jones - Hard to ignore the buzz. I missed the boat on him, but he knocked Ferguson off the roster and is reportedly looking better than Jennings did last season.
Close:
Dwayne Bowe - Solid athlete with nice upside. But is he Hines Ward without the hands?
Craig Davis - Intriguing player. Should develop into a solid starter. Doesn't appear to have any special qualities though.
Robert Meachem - Horrendous start, but you can't write him off yet. Has WR1 potential.
My guess is that at least one of Bowe, Davis, and Meachem will ultimately pan out. It would be somewhat rare for three first round WRs to bomb. I probably favor Bowe out of those three at the moment. I might be underrating him right now.
It would also be rare for three third round WRs to become solid NFL starters. But Jones, Jones, and Robinson are all playing very well. Is this just training camp hype? It's possible. Remember Mark Bradley? He led the NFL in preseason receiving yards as a rookie. I'm not getting carried away with these three yet, but they've certainly moved up my board.
The bizarre thing about this year's group is that while almost all of the prospects have a chance to be solid players, very few of them look like locks. So it's really difficult to rank these guys for the future. I can think of reasons why some of them will be stars, but I can also think of reasons why those same guys will bomb.
Robinson is probably my favorite of the non-CJ bunch because his price tag is relatively low and he has one of the most intriguing combinations of physical ability and football skills. He's the only rookie WR that I have on the majority of my dynasty teams, so I guess you could say he's the guy I'm placing my bets on.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Just throwin' a tidbit out there. I've watched every Raider preseason game and Higgins is playing at a very high level. Poor quarterbacking has killed him, but the guy has a lot of fire, and he gets separation deep almost at will. What's impressed me the most is his hands though. He's made some outstanding catches of poorly thrown balls and in traffic. I have a feeling he's going to score some long touchdowns very early in the season.
FWIW, Favre compared his skill set to Sterling Sharpe's. I don't recall Favre ever claiming that about another rookie.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Those flawed criticisms are NorrisB's in every thread about Jones. He doesn't like him. I don't think you'll change his mind.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Havent gotten to see him play yet. Those Oak games have been hard to watch and i usually stop watching and delete them. But while watch i haven't really seen much of him on the field.
switz
Footballguy
He said Derrick Mayes was the most talented WR he'd ever played with, and that was while Sharpe was on the team. We see how that panned out.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That generally happens a lot when someone is too slow at the WW, or didn't consider a player on draft day.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
I think he has a good chance to contribute as a rookie, but I'm not in love with his long-term potential. I think a lot of people look at him and automatically assume that he's going to produce like Reggie Wayne someday. Personally, I view him more as a slot WR. You can't ignore the fact that he was a first round pick and that he could be starting for the Colts in the near future, but I guess I'm just not that big on his skills. We'll see. I was skeptical of Addai last year and he seemed to prove me wrong, so maybe I'm just missing the boat here.
