Glenn Beck (1 Viewer)

[E Street Brat]

The Hatemonger is at again.

Am I hateful if I ask: - Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America? - We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink? - The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy? - If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later? - Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work? - Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them? - Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them? - Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either? - How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president? - Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor? - The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill? - If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people? - If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan? - If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening? - Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted? - Why would you want to overwhelm the system? - Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"? - What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?

 

[The Commish]

Has this clip been posted yet?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-augu...eck-s-operation

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

There is probably more truth here than you realize

 

[Gigantomachia]

Has this clip been posted yet?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-augu...eck-s-operation

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

There is probably more truth here than you realize

 

[jamny]

The Hatemonger is at again.

Am I hateful if I ask: - Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America? - We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink? - The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy? - If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later? - Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work? - Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them? - Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them? - Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either? - How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president? - Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor? - The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill? - If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people? - If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan? - If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening? - Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted? - Why would you want to overwhelm the system? - Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"? - What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?

Where's the hate?

 

[E Street Brat]

Where's the hate?

Gunz will be shortly to point it out.

 

[jamny]

Where's the hate?

Gunz will be shortly to point it out.

Interesting show yesterday, I haven't watched in a while and am looking forward to the rest of the week. It's the first I've heard of the Apollo Alliance and our Green Czar Van Jones.

 

[Gigantomachia]

Where's the hate?

Gunz will be shortly to point it out.

Interesting show yesterday, I haven't watched in a while and am looking forward to the rest of the week. It's the first I've heard of the Apollo Alliance and our Green Czar Van Jones.

That show was not interesting it was stupid. Just because a guy argues a particular position about something the right does not like, does not mean the Obama administration is trying to take over the world, irrespective of Beck's rhetoric.The worst part is, Beck is a closet anarchist, he has said as much himself in the past. Unfortunately, he also a great example of why anarchy must be intellectually based, not profit driven.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Has this clip been posted yet?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-augu...eck-s-operation

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

 

[Gigantomachia]

Has this clip been posted yet?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-augu...eck-s-operation

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

 

[dickey moe]

Has this clip been posted yet?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-augu...eck-s-operation

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

 

[perry147]

He is the king boob of boobem....no question about it. He's giving Rove a run for his money. GB The Daily Show!!!!

These days all I can stand for news are Stewart, Colbert and, of course, here.

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

I think it was a like two years ago I watched a Stewart and he had an author on his show that was basically said (I am summarizing here) - We can not win in Iraq because we will always be perceived as evil in the Muslim world, and the populace will not accept our occupation. He has some very interesting insight and in the end of the interview I was very impressed with Stewart - even though he was still funny at times, he explored the subject better than I have heard anyone.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

I think it was a like two years ago I watched a Stewart and he had an author on his show that was basically said (I am summarizing here) - We can not win in Iraq because we will always be perceived as evil in the Muslim world, and the populace will not accept our occupation. He has some very interesting insight and in the end of the interview I was very impressed with Stewart - even though he was still funny at times, he explored the subject better than I have heard anyone.

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

 

[The Commish]

I think it was a like two years ago I watched a Stewart and he had an author on his show that was basically said (I am summarizing here) - We can not win in Iraq because we will always be perceived as evil in the Muslim world, and the populace will not accept our occupation. He has some very interesting insight and in the end of the interview I was very impressed with Stewart - even though he was still funny at times, he explored the subject better than I have heard anyone.

He has his moments. I really like watching his show. I hadn't watched much of it until seeing a few clips here in the FFA that were priceless. I didn't tune in to learn...I tuned in to be entertained. Turns out he has some pretty spot on segments. Many more than our "news channels" anyway.

 

[perry147]

Stewart and Colbert are turning into the Walter Cronkites of the modern news.

is this supposed to be a compliment?

I think it was a like two years ago I watched a Stewart and he had an author on his show that was basically said (I am summarizing here) - We can not win in Iraq because we will always be perceived as evil in the Muslim world, and the populace will not accept our occupation. He has some very interesting insight and in the end of the interview I was very impressed with Stewart - even though he was still funny at times, he explored the subject better than I have heard anyone.

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

Wasn't Cronkite know to be the voice of middle America?

 

[E Street Brat]

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

Beck called out Bush on Medicare part D, Immigration, and the bailouts, abandoning the free market principles in order to save them. I'm pretty sure he would not be pleased with that quote either.

 

[saintfool]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

 

[Crimson Hawk]

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

Beck called out Bush on Medicare part D, Immigration, and the bailouts, abandoning the free market principles in order to save them. I'm pretty sure he would not be pleased with that quote either.

People that have never actually listened miss that stuff. He is right about a lot of stuff but he says some crazy stuff sometimes.

 

[Gigantomachia]

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

Beck called out Bush on Medicare part D, Immigration, and the bailouts, abandoning the free market principles in order to save them. I'm pretty sure he would not be pleased with that quote either.

I understand that, hence my post about his anarchism. Nevertheless, he is pandering to the lowest of the low and that kills is overall appeal IMO.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

 

[Gigantomachia]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

 

[top dog]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

oh no you di'int!

 

[perry147]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

Cronkite is the best new anchor ever even called "the most trusted man in America" , and stood by the US involvement in Vietnam. UNTIL he finally acquiesced that we need to try for peace and end our involvement in Vietnam. This revelation lead Lyndon Johnson to believe he had lost middle america reportedly saying , "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America"Cronkite would not have just said "we can not win in Iraq and called it news".Cronkite was old school journalism that we do not have an equivalent in modern news, every once in while you might see a flash of it if you are lucky. The reasoning for this is debatable, but there are not anymore Cronkites.

 

[perry147]

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

Beck called out Bush on Medicare part D, Immigration, and the bailouts, abandoning the free market principles in order to save them. I'm pretty sure he would not be pleased with that quote either.

I understand that, hence my post about his anarchism. Nevertheless, he is pandering to the lowest of the low and that kills is overall appeal IMO.

He plays to the hate of the extreme right.

 

[jamny]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

 

[Gigantomachia]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

It's called Capatislism, love it or leave it.

 

[Gigantomachia]

I wonder if Beck remembers this famous quote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." George W Bush, May 21, 1999

Beck called out Bush on Medicare part D, Immigration, and the bailouts, abandoning the free market principles in order to save them. I'm pretty sure he would not be pleased with that quote either.

I understand that, hence my post about his anarchism. Nevertheless, he is pandering to the lowest of the low and that kills is overall appeal IMO.

He plays to the hate of the extreme right.

He was better back in the day.

 

[perry147]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

Who care who this guy is.That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.It is time for beck to show some personal responsibility and own up to his words. I think Beck knows what he said is wrong, but is just too egotistical to admit it.

 

[Gigantomachia]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

Cronkite is the best new anchor ever even called "the most trusted man in America" , and stood by the US involvement in Vietnam. UNTIL he finally acquiesced that we need to try for peace and end our involvement in Vietnam. This revelation lead Lyndon Johnson to believe he had lost middle america reportedly saying , "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America"Cronkite would not have just said "we can not win in Iraq and called it news".Cronkite was old school journalism that we do not have an equivalent in modern news, every once in while you might see a flash of it if you are lucky. The reasoning for this is debatable, but there are not anymore Cronkites.

There was a really good piece on NPR today about healthcare, I need to find out who the dude was because he argumentative skills were off the charts.

 

[Gigantomachia]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

Who care who this guy is.That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.It is time for beck to show some personal responsibility and own up to his words. I think Beck knows what he said is wrong, but is just too egotistical to admit it.

I think it has more to do with $$$$ than ego, IMO

 

[Parrothead]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

It's called Capatislism, love it or leave it.

Would you have a problem with "Kill Obama" t shirts, similar to the "Kill Bush" ones?

 

[Gigantomachia]

I find it interesting that the same group, Color of Change, co-founded by Van Jones that is behind the boycott of Beck after his "Obama is racist" rant also sells t-shirts on their website that say "Kanye was Right".

It's called Capatislism, love it or leave it.

Would you have a problem with "Kill Obama" t shirts, similar to the "Kill Bush" ones?

I have no problem with any of those. Let's me know who the idiots are without having to talk with them.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

right. Cronkite would have just said that we cannot win in Iraq and called it news.

can i help you?

Cronkite is the best new anchor ever even called "the most trusted man in America" , and stood by the US involvement in Vietnam. UNTIL he finally acquiesced that we need to try for peace and end our involvement in Vietnam. This revelation lead Lyndon Johnson to believe he had lost middle america reportedly saying , "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America"Cronkite would not have just said "we can not win in Iraq and called it news".Cronkite was old school journalism that we do not have an equivalent in modern news, every once in while you might see a flash of it if you are lucky. The reasoning for this is debatable, but there are not anymore Cronkites.

you got a little sumpin on your chin

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

 

[perry147]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." Do you think it is a jump to call those comments racist?Or is stating that a black man has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture" not a racist statement coming from the mouth of someone like Beck?

 

[Gigantomachia]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

He did say that, I heard him. And Beck is pretty damn white so he should know.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

That's not a racist comment. It may be dumb, but it isn't racist.

 

[E Street Brat]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

He did say that, I heard him. And Beck is pretty damn white so he should know.

I heard him say it also, and then back it up with quotes from Obama.

 

[Gigantomachia]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

That's not a racist comment. It may be dumb, but it isn't racist.

It's a little racist, I mean, would he say the same thing about a white president? If not, well then . . .

 

[Gigantomachia]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

He did say that, I heard him. And Beck is pretty damn white so he should know.

I heard him say it also, and then back it up with quotes from Obama.

Yea, none of which supported Beck's conclusion; hence the racist claim.

 

[jamny]

So it's racist to call someone racist? I'll have to remember that.

 

[Gigantomachia]

So it's racist to call someone racist? I'll have to remember that.

More or less.Takes one to know one don't ya know . . .Actually, the difference is to what degree they can support their opinion. If they have evidence of someone banning black people from a public place, well there ya go, but if the only support they have is evoking the term, well then . . .

 

[perry147]

So it's racist to call someone racist? I'll have to remember that.

If you attribute it to his actions.- Yes.

 

[Sweet J]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

That's not a racist comment. It may be dumb, but it isn't racist.

I agree that it is not necessarily a "racist comment." But I do think it is "race baiting." (i.e., saying something that he knows is not true in order to stir up racially-based fears in white people). Which might be worse. I can almost attribute racism to ignorance. This isn't ignorance.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I agree that it is not necessarily a "racist comment." But I do think it is "race baiting." (i.e., saying something that he knows is not true in order to stir up racially-based fears in white people). Which might be worse.

 

[jamny]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

That's not a racist comment. It may be dumb, but it isn't racist.

I agree that it is not necessarily a "racist comment." But I do think it is "race baiting." (i.e., saying something that he knows is not true in order to stir up racially-based fears in white people). Which might be worse. I can almost attribute racism to ignorance. This isn't ignorance.

I agree with this. But if Beck thinks it's true does that mean he's ignorant, thus a racist? Or just ignorant?btw-I don't believe either Obama or Beck are racists.

 

[perry147]

That doesn't make Beck's comment any less racist.

I've seen some of Becks's inflammatory comments, but I haven't seen any that are racist. Link?

He is accusing Obama of being a racist; stating that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

That's not a racist comment. It may be dumb, but it isn't racist.

I agree that it is not necessarily a "racist comment." But I do think it is "race baiting." (i.e., saying something that he knows is not true in order to stir up racially-based fears in white people). Which might be worse. I can almost attribute racism to ignorance. This isn't ignorance.

Do you think Beck said it because he felt he had cover for it? If he did feel he had cover for it what does that say about Fox News?

 

[CBusAlex]

So, pretend I'm white. If I call a black guy racist, that makes me a racist. What if I call another white guy racist? Is that kosher, or would that also make me a racist, like a self-hating white guy or something?

 

[Sweet J]

I agree with this. But if Beck thinks it's true does that mean he's ignorant, thus a racist? Or just ignorant?btw-I don't believe either Obama or Beck are racists.

Actually, I think I want to strike my last sentence. I don't really know what is behind Beck's rant. I don't think he is ignorant. And I think the term "racist" gets thrown around entirely too much. I don't even know what it means anymore. I don't think Beck is stupid.I guess I think that Beck makes simple and generalized conclusions (he would say "common sense") based on information that fits his world-view. If something strikes him as true, he's going to say it, possibly before really thinking enough about it. In essence, I think he believes his own memes. I think Beck thinks its true. But that means he must accept the information that he thinks is important, and dismiss the information that he thinks is not important. Everybody does this to some extent, but he seems to be particularly guilty of it. Things get categorized in his head as either worthy of accepting or not. Information comes in, and he immediately dumps it in either the "good info" bucket or "not good info" bucket. When you do this for everything, crazy statements like his make sense.For what its worth, I think Kanya West probably did the same thing. That makes it easy to think "Bush doesn't like black people" becuase he is only looking at half the available information out there.

 

[Sweet J]

Do you think Beck said it because he felt he had cover for it? If he did feel he had cover for it what does that say about Fox News?

See my answer above. I think Beck, at the moment he said it, believed it. And I don't think he will change his mind any easier than Kanya (or whatever his name is) would.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

So it's racist to call someone racist? I'll have to remember that.

More or less.Takes one to know one don't ya know . . .Actually, the difference is to what degree they can support their opinion. If they have evidence of someone banning black people from a public place, well there ya go, but if the only support they have is evoking the term, well then . . .

It takes one to know one? Jesus that is horrible. What's next --- Obama is rubber, Beck is glue...?