Glenn Martinez, WR Broncos (1 Viewer)

[H.K.]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...

Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

 

[SSOG]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

 

[H.K.]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

Thanks.Whatever happened to Walker? He seems like he has been practicing for a while, why is Martinez ahead of him on the depth chart?

 

[packersfan]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

Thanks.Whatever happened to Walker? He seems like he has been practicing for a while, why is Martinez ahead of him on the depth chart?

Because he's hurt and he's clearly nowhere near his prior form. That he's been buried behind Stokley and then Martinez on the depth chart is pretty clear evidence of that.If you're looking for a sneaky play for the Broncos Monday night I think it's Scheffler. He's the No. 2 receiver in the passing game now behind Marshall. I don't see any other Bronco receiver doing anything of note other than those two.

 

[H.K.]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

Thanks.Whatever happened to Walker? He seems like he has been practicing for a while, why is Martinez ahead of him on the depth chart?

Because he's hurt and he's clearly nowhere near his prior form. That he's been buried behind Stokley and then Martinez on the depth chart is pretty clear evidence of that.If you're looking for a sneaky play for the Broncos Monday night I think it's Scheffler. He's the No. 2 receiver in the passing game now behind Marshall. I don't see any other Bronco receiver doing anything of note other than those two.

Is it 100% certainty that he isn't playing due to injury though? I've seen Walker say he was fine and question why he is being used so little, then there are articles about the Broncos asking him to take a pay cut and him not wanting to do it.I was curious if the Broncos have chosen to cut bait with Walker and are evaluating current talent at his position for their last few games.

 

[packersfan]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

Thanks.Whatever happened to Walker? He seems like he has been practicing for a while, why is Martinez ahead of him on the depth chart?

Because he's hurt and he's clearly nowhere near his prior form. That he's been buried behind Stokley and then Martinez on the depth chart is pretty clear evidence of that.If you're looking for a sneaky play for the Broncos Monday night I think it's Scheffler. He's the No. 2 receiver in the passing game now behind Marshall. I don't see any other Bronco receiver doing anything of note other than those two.

Is it 100% certainty that he isn't playing due to injury though? I've seen Walker say he was fine and question why he is being used so little, then there are articles about the Broncos asking him to take a pay cut and him not wanting to do it.I was curious if the Broncos have chosen to cut bait with Walker and are evaluating current talent at his position for their last few games.

Walker's acknowledged he isn't healthy and won't be healthy until next season. Shanahan has talked about how he hasn't always looked sharp and Cutler said a couple of weeks ago Walker clearly wasn't healthy. If you watch him play, it's obvious he isn't healthy. He's a shell of himself on the field right now and Cutler knows it and I think that's one reason why he hasn't thrown to him as much. The missed practice time has also created some serious chemistry issues as well with Cutler in my opinion. Cutler has been working with Marshall, Scheffler and Stokley all season long so he's more confident in them right now than he is with Walker. Again, that's pretty evident just watching the games.As far as Walker's standing for next year that remains to be seen. I agree that given his serious injury concerns the Broncos need to be very smart with how they deal with him. He's a big-time talent when healthy but he's now had two major knee injuries in three seasons and has had only two standout seasons in his entire career. I'm not sure that's the type of player you want to be investing a lot of money in going forward.

 

[H.K.]

Walker's acknowledged he isn't healthy and won't be healthy until next season. Shanahan has talked about how he hasn't always looked sharp and Cutler said a couple of weeks ago Walker clearly wasn't healthy. If you watch him play, it's obvious he isn't healthy. He's a shell of himself on the field right now and Cutler knows it and I think that's one reason why he hasn't thrown to him as much. The missed practice time has also created some serious chemistry issues as well with Cutler in my opinion. Cutler has been working with Marshall, Scheffler and Stokley all season long so he's more confident in them right now than he is with Walker. Again, that's pretty evident just watching the games.

Thanks. Question for you: Why is Walker practicing and playing at all? The Broncos season is over. If he isn't right, what's the point?Also, everything I've read said he's practiced all week and is listed as probable....will he be the starter this week or just play sparingly again?

 

[packersfan]

Plenty of guys are hurt this time of year and they still play. But given how bad Walker has looked, I agree I'm not sure the point of putting him on the field if the team has nothing to play for.

Not sure if he'll start Monday night or not. Given how bad he's looked, I don't think it much matters.

 

[SSOG]

He started over Walker last week and now Stokely is iffy again. Obviously the Chargers will roll coverage to Marshall, maybe even double him, so it looks like he could be in line for a decent day...Denver homers: what do you know about this guy?

That he's not in line for a decent day. He's Glenn Martinez, aka Charlie Adams, aka Todd Devoe, aka David Kircus. He's a special teamer only out there to give the offense 11 guys on the field. Obviously anything can happen, but let's just say that I would be very surprised. Very surprised. If Walker and Stokley are still too injured to be effective, then option #2 is going to be Scheffler and option #3 is going to be Graham. If he's lucky, Martinez might be option #4.

Thanks.Whatever happened to Walker? He seems like he has been practicing for a while, why is Martinez ahead of him on the depth chart?

Because he's hurt and he's clearly nowhere near his prior form. That he's been buried behind Stokley and then Martinez on the depth chart is pretty clear evidence of that.If you're looking for a sneaky play for the Broncos Monday night I think it's Scheffler. He's the No. 2 receiver in the passing game now behind Marshall. I don't see any other Bronco receiver doing anything of note other than those two.

Is it 100% certainty that he isn't playing due to injury though? I've seen Walker say he was fine and question why he is being used so little, then there are articles about the Broncos asking him to take a pay cut and him not wanting to do it.I was curious if the Broncos have chosen to cut bait with Walker and are evaluating current talent at his position for their last few games.

If they're playing Martinez over Walker, I doubt it's to evaluate talent. Martinez really just strikes me as one of those "1-year patch, last man on the roster" receivers the Broncos have been fond of recently. I seriously doubt he factors into Denver's long-term plans.I think part of the reason they're playing Walker is that they want to see what they have in him- how well he'll come back from this injury, how much effort he'll put into it, etc. Besides, Shanahan was never one to play out the string, even if he has nothing to play for. Shanahan really likes Walker, but he's got to decide how much money he's willing to bet on that knee.

 

[Bri]

Is Walker near attaining an incentive bonus?

 

[cholo]

My question is: with Walker and Stokley out, what will this do to Marshall's numbers?

 

[SSOG]

Is Walker near attaining an incentive bonus?

His original contract wasn't very incentive-laden, so no, no major incentives are on the line. Maybe some minor incentives, but nothing worth noting as far as I know.

My question is: with Walker and Stokley out, what will this do to Marshall's numbers?

I think this has more of an impact on Scheffler and Graham than Marshall.

 

[Bri]

Martinez was Ruvell Martin's college teammate and each did quite well but...each have had similar "eh" pro careers

 

[H.K.]

Hey guys, thanks for the input. So who starts this week opposite Marshall if Stokely can't play - Walker or Martinez?

eta: Depth chart for the Broncos on NFL.com shows:

Stokely (Q) - starter

Martinez

Walker (P)

Wow! Didn't realize that Walker had fallen to third on the depth chart at his position...Has to be more than injury related, he played last week and has practiced all this week and he can't beat out Martinez?

 

[SSOG]

Wow! Didn't realize that Walker had fallen to third on the depth chart at his position...Has to be more than injury related, he played last week and has practiced all this week and he can't beat out Martinez?

It's not more than injury related. I can absolutely, positively, 100% guarantee you that the only way that Martinez plays over Walker is if Walker isn't at full strength. Even if Walker and Shanny were privately feuding, Shanny would ride Walker as much as he could this year and then get rid of him in the offseason. If Shanahan was unhappy enough with Walker's attitude to demote him, he'd kick him off the team entirely.There's a difference between practicing all week and performing at your previous levels. To go back to Terrell Davis- there were weeks in 2001 where Davis practiced, but no one who watched him play could say that he wasn't still radically impacted by his injury. By the same token, Walker doesn't currently possess the speed and leaping ability that's pretty much the hallmark of his game. He doesn't look as fluid on the field. He's definitely not the same guy.Edit: Either way, I have to believe that neither Walker nor Martinez has much value this week, barring a total fluke performance. I think the absolute upside for either, based on Denver's history with WR4-WR5 types pressed into action, would be something like Todd Devoe's 5-59-1 game against Philly. Of course, Todd Devoe paints a nice picture of the downside, too- that was the only game in Devoe's career where he had more than 1 reception or 9 receiving yards.