Franknbeans
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if he's so strong why does he go down like he's been hit by a sniper at the slightest hint of contact?
Whoa! Franknbeans making an appearance in a Bears thread. BOOM!!!!!!if he's so strong why does he go down like he's been hit by a sniper at the slightest hint of contact?
Yes Grasshoppa very busy with new baby! Sorry 'bout that, AFC only indeed.Thanks for the reply, NinerK. And I agree with your point about San Diego focussing on shutting down the run and forcing Grossman to throw it, but your search was for AFC teams only. Here it is for all NFL teams where S.D. is tied for #19 in ypc last season:All NFL teamsI see your point; SD is not a powerhouse Run Defense. However, NFL.com lists the 4.2 YPC in 2006 and has SD tied with those teams @ #8.NFL.com/Run DefenseKCC said:Benson could very well have a poor week for a variety of reasons (facing 8 or more in the box repeatedly, Chicago getting outscored early on and starts airing it out, the Bears commit a lot of turnovers, etc.) but I'm curious why so many on these boards have listed the Chargers rushing defense as a reason for not starting Benson. San Diego gave up an average of 4.2 yrds per carry last year tieing them with Cincy and KC at #19 when compared to the ypc for all other NFL teams.NinerK said:The "hate" for Benson might be irrational; but there are legitimate reasons for not starting him this week. You are correct that this week, Benson's performance against a stout run defense will provide insight as to how the rest of the year will go.Biabreakable said:This will be a good test for what Benson is capable of this year. The Chargers have been one of the best run defenses in the league for several years now (ever since thier switch to the 3-4). If Benson performs well against them he will be doing what many other RB have not been able to do.
That being said there has been a change in the inside linebackers in SD this year. Maybe this will not matter, maybe it will. Maybe it will only matter in the early games while the new linebackers are getting thier feet wet.
One thing I do not like about this snippet and a power RB is they put themselves in harms way more than a elusive runner does. And I do think that increases the risk of that RB being injured.
Benson has a great supporting cast around him (as long as the aging Oline doesen't regress). The table has been set for him to succeed. I think he will.
The hate for Benson around here is irrational.
For me, I look at SD's front 7 and see Rex getting a TON of pressure. Obviously CHI will try to run the ball but once Rex is rattled SD can stack the box like you said and I think that stuffs the run. Not a good matchup for any CHI offensive players, IMO
ETA: It's also worth mentioning that when you rank the NFL-defense list for rushing TDs allowed (another important factor for fantasy owners) , San Diego ranked at #15. Not bad, but certainly not near the top in the NFL.
Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Did Cedric sleep with your wife?There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Fact 2: His teammates hate his guts and try to physically hurt him.
Fact 3: His mentor doesn't respect him, trashes him and even punched him in the face.
Fact 4: Back to back carries in the Super Bowl = Fumble & Busted knee. He's no Michael Jordan.
Fact 5: He has no heart, he completely doesn't have the "It" factor.
Fact 6: If he has any success defenses will put 8 in the box cause his QB stinks.
Fact 7: He couldn't beat out Thomas Jones for two seasons who never exactly set the world on fire.
I won't even make a prediction on him because I don't predict injurys because I find it to be uncool and if I can't predict an injury I don't feel comfortable predicting a stat line.
No. He slept with my dog.Did Cedric sleep with your wife?There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Fact 2: His teammates hate his guts and try to physically hurt him.
Fact 3: His mentor doesn't respect him, trashes him and even punched him in the face.
Fact 4: Back to back carries in the Super Bowl = Fumble & Busted knee. He's no Michael Jordan.
Fact 5: He has no heart, he completely doesn't have the "It" factor.
Fact 6: If he has any success defenses will put 8 in the box cause his QB stinks.
Fact 7: He couldn't beat out Thomas Jones for two seasons who never exactly set the world on fire.
I won't even make a prediction on him because I don't predict injurys because I find it to be uncool and if I can't predict an injury I don't feel comfortable predicting a stat line.
one of the only things you said tat has anything to do with football is #7 he was young and couldnt pass block. also, no team will try and hurt their starting running back on purpose. his qb is good enough to NOT put 8 in the box. if they do, hes good enough to beat them. who gives a #### what his mentor thinks? no heart? how do you know? hes a passionate guy who wanted to start. hell yeah he has heart.There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Fact 2: His teammates hate his guts and try to physically hurt him.
Fact 3: His mentor doesn't respect him, trashes him and even punched him in the face.
Fact 4: Back to back carries in the Super Bowl = Fumble & Busted knee. He's no Michael Jordan.
Fact 5: He has no heart, he completely doesn't have the "It" factor.
Fact 6: If he has any success defenses will put 8 in the box cause his QB stinks.
Fact 7: He couldn't beat out Thomas Jones for two seasons who never exactly set the world on fire.
I won't even make a prediction on him because I don't predict injurys because I find it to be uncool and if I can't predict an injury I don't feel comfortable predicting a stat line.
And the irrational hate of Keith Lewis continues.How do you call #'s 2-3 and 5 facts?There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Brewzers said:Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Ministry of Pain said:Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Fact 2: His teammates hate his guts and try to physically hurt him.
Fact 3: His mentor doesn't respect him, trashes him and even punched him in the face.
Fact 4: Back to back carries in the Super Bowl = Fumble & Busted knee. He's no Michael Jordan.
Fact 5: He has no heart, he completely doesn't have the "It" factor.
Fact 6: If he has any success defenses will put 8 in the box cause his QB stinks.
Fact 7: He couldn't beat out Thomas Jones for two seasons who never exactly set the world on fire.
I won't even make a prediction on him because I don't predict injurys because I find it to be uncool and if I can't predict an injury I don't feel comfortable predicting a stat line.
Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
they didn't like him... Urlacher, Briggs,
I swear. Some of you people can't have a fully functioning brain.I'm through discussing Benson. This is getting beyond dumb.they didn't like him... Urlacher, Briggs,If this is true, this might actually mean that Cedric Benson is a decent guy. You know, as in he's the only normal one stuck on a team of reckless psychos
Keith Lewis has been pretty spot on from what I've heard from CB, teammates and the local media.Your stance is shaky at best.I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
No way, LD. If you don't think Benson is gonna set the world on fire this season, you're just a hater. Deal with it.Keith Lewis has been pretty spot on from what I've heard from CB, teammates and the local media.Your stance is shaky at best.I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
thanks for the info.Keith Lewis has been pretty spot on from what I've heard from CB, teammates and the local media.Your stance is shaky at best.I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.
Excellent retort! I didn't know teenager girls are now taking up fantasy football. Let me ask, if you could have, would you have dotted your 'i' with a heart?thanks for the info.Keith Lewis has been pretty spot on from what I've heard from CB, teammates and the local media.Your stance is shaky at best.I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.whatever.
lol,turdhe said turdBenson is a turd. He's not doing anything exceptional this year.
lol,he said he's "riding" benson.I hope he doesn't "turd" while you're "riding" himNo reply is really needed in this beat thread but I did I want to build some goog karma by going .....![]()
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I am riding Benson all the way baby.
Benson is a turd. He's not doing anything exceptional this year.
you've said nothing of substance, just latched onto the benson hate. there is ZERO evidence that benson's teammates dislike him currently. any comment to the contrary is pure suppostion. provide a link to the contrary - oh wait, you can't, because no such link exists.let's look at some actual quotes from his teammates:Excellent retort! I didn't know teenager girls are now taking up fantasy football. Let me ask, if you could have, would you have dotted your 'i' with a heart?thanks for the info.Keith Lewis has been pretty spot on from what I've heard from CB, teammates and the local media.Your stance is shaky at best.I'm not the one who made an idiotic assertion, you are. Hater.His own defense tried to hurt him over and over last season during training camp according to Cedric. I think that's all that needs to be said, they didn't like him then, you got any link where Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman or any other Bears D player has came out and made amends? The onus of proof is in your court, not mine. Link? Didn't think so.Recent link? Didn't think so.I don't "hate" benson. He's just not very good, he's done squat on an NFL level. If he fails this year or even gets hurt, the BUST label fits. As far as his personality, he's basically a very unstable human being with possible chemical imbalance (speculation) who rubs everybody the wrong way including his own teammates(fact). I can not think of many guys whose own teammates can't stand him.whatever.
Totally agree.Benson still sucks though. That about sums it up.This thread is disappointing on so many levels.I'm not sure how relevant Benson's popularity is to his fantasy success. Regardless of whether his teams truly like him or not, these guys are all professionals and extremely competitve. They're going to play their hardest no matter who is carrying the rock.
How'd your guy do today?And the irrational hate of Keith Lewis continues.How do you call #'s 2-3 and 5 facts?There are the pros, here's the cons, every side has 2 stories right?Fact 1: He's a headcase who cried when drafted not out of happiness but out of feeling disrespected and compared to Ricky. What kind of guy is angry that he just hit the $30 million jackpot in the lottery?Laugh all you want. I don't profess to be an FF shark, but having Adrian Peterson on my team seems like a brain dead move. I would think the first rule of thumb for an FF shark would be to check your emotions/player biases at the door and seek value:Fact 1: Benson's last 1/2 of the 2006 season was 88-432 for a 4.9 YPC.Bwahhhhh.Benson being a Stud...Bwahhhhh.Makes sense, sharks always handcuff their stud RB.Sharks have all bought stock in Adrian Peterson.![]()
He sucks.
Fact 2: He is the undisputed #1 RB on a run happy Chicago Bears team.
Fact 3: Benson is going to get all the goal line carries.
Fact 3: The only viable backup is Adrian Peterson, talk about sucking.
Logic would tell you Benson is going to get at least 350 carries this year, if you figure 4.0 YPC...well hopefully you can do the math. Enjoy the 10 carries that Adrian Peterson will get this year. I know I'm going to enjoy myRB2 posting RB1 stats.
Fact 2: His teammates hate his guts and try to physically hurt him.
Fact 3: His mentor doesn't respect him, trashes him and even punched him in the face.
Fact 4: Back to back carries in the Super Bowl = Fumble & Busted knee. He's no Michael Jordan.
Fact 5: He has no heart, he completely doesn't have the "It" factor.
Fact 6: If he has any success defenses will put 8 in the box cause his QB stinks.
Fact 7: He couldn't beat out Thomas Jones for two seasons who never exactly set the world on fire.
I won't even make a prediction on him because I don't predict injurys because I find it to be uncool and if I can't predict an injury I don't feel comfortable predicting a stat line.
"Fact" 2 - How do you know his teammates hate him? They all seem to be supporting him just fine now.
"Fact" 3 - Who says that TJ was EVER his mentor? It sounds like super-punk TJ didn't do jack to help Ced.
"Fact" 5 - He doesn't have the "it factor? Thanks for the "facts" there buddy. That's basically the definition of opinion.
By contrast, Todem actually posted facts.