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Goodell: Lynch won't be punished (1 Viewer)
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Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Fron the article: "Speaking at Bills training camp, Goodell says since Lynch pleaded guilty to traffic violation, there was no violation of the league's personal conduct policy."
So, the issue with Goddell , is whether the player pleads guilty or not? Before, I thought Goddell reserved the right to discipline players, even if they were not charged. Now, it appears they only violate the league's conduct policy if they don't plead guilty...regardless of the players's conduct that may have brought a formal charge against them?
So, the issue with Goddell , is whether the player pleads guilty or not? Before, I thought Goddell reserved the right to discipline players, even if they were not charged. Now, it appears they only violate the league's conduct policy if they don't plead guilty...regardless of the players's conduct that may have brought a formal charge against them?
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
What he was eventually charged with, and plead guilty to, was not a criminal charge. A traffic violation and criminal charge are different. My guess is, if he had been charged or plead guilty to a DUI though, things could have been different. But it ended up being a fairly minor traffic violation that he ended up leading guilty to. If there had been more evidence that he was driving drunk, he may have been looking at a suspension.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Wow...glad I wasn't driving. I would probably still be in jail.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Once again, for people who can't think for themselves, the lack of jail time has nothing to do with Lynch being a Bill. It has to do with this crime being a lower level crime in New York State. Please, read that one more time. If you or I did this in New York State, with no previous record and no proof of being drunk, we would not be in jail either. You may think that's horrible and the law should be changed to make it a harsher penalty. I agree with you. But your anger should be directed at New York State, not at Mr. Lynch.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I have no anger at NY or Lynch. But I do happen to think professional athletes tend to get better treatment that average Joe's. I can think for myself just fine thank you.
puckalicious
Footballguy
It's not about guily/not guilty, its about the charge. A traffic violation is not part of the personal conduct policy AFAIK. He plead down to something that would not be an issue.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I agree that in general they do. But many, many people ignored this point multiple times in the long Lynch thread. In this case, you would be right where Lynch is today: a free man. So please don't post that Lynch got off easy because he is a pro athlete. It's not true in this case.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
1. I will post whatever I want as long as it is in the guidelines of the website. 2. Thank you for educating me on how the judicial system works in Buffalo.
3. Relax.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Kleck
Footballguy
Just a thought as this is a subject I don't have much knowledge of... but doesn't it almost have to be a lower level crime when you take into account NYC and all vehicles and pedestrians on the streets every hour of every day? I couldn't image how many hit and runs there are in NYC each day that don't result in serious injuries. That sounds like quite a burden to tax payers if the courts trialled every one of them plus the costs if the majority served time in jail. Not to sound like I'm in favor of people hitting others with their vehicles, but if there is no serious injury just pay the fine and let the insurance companies handle it.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Thanks. And yet there are people in this thread insisting they would be in jail if they did this.Just a thought as this is a subject I don't have much knowledge of... but doesn't it almost have to be a lower level crime when you take into account NYC and all vehicles and pedestrians on the streets every hour of every day? I couldn't image how many hit and runs there are in NYC each day that don't result in serious injuries. That sounds like quite a burden to tax payers if the courts trialled every one of them plus the costs if the majority served time in jail. Not to sound like I'm in favor of people hitting others with their vehicles, but if there is no serious injury just pay the fine and let the insurance companies handle it.
Thanks for confirmation. Updated my commentary on Lynch on the rankings board to reflect. MW
Jimmy James
Footballguy
I don't buy it.First off, 25k isn't even going to cover all an expensive attorney is going to insist on doing if you take something remotely serious to a jury trial. That's 100 hours of work at $250 an hour or perhaps more likely a mix of attorney time, somewhat lower charge paralegal time, and a hefty amount to the expert witness(es) that are going to be necessary to try to convince a jury black is white.Second, if your strategy is to pay your money to a guy who was in the same fraternity the judge was in and went to law school with the prosecutor, those connections are only going to help you get a better deal if it's a low profile enough case.Third, if your strategy is the disappearing briefcase filled with dead Presidents, the going rate has to be more than $25,000 these days even where this might be possible (which is nowhere I have ever been).Fourth, you don't need money to get out of legal trouble. Given these facts and more importantly the client's ability to have friends who won't rat him out, I'm confident any reasonably decent public defender could make this happen.
