Ned Ryerson
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Goodfellas is comfortably my favorite movie, and Sharon Stoney's character is so terrible, it ruined the movie for mejdoggydogg said:
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"Goodfellas" vs. "Casino" (1 Viewer)
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Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Both great movies.
Casino just ####### drags, on and on and on....
Casino just ####### drags, on and on and on....
RBM
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
RBM
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yes, she was great at being irritating. Not her fault she did what the role called for. But after you've seen Casino for the first two dozen times or so, her scenes in the second half of the movie can be fast-forwarded through without much regret.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
This is kind of where I stand. I know she gave a good performance in portraying that type of person but the character is just so detestable it ruins the movie almost. I've grown to tolerate her the more I watch it.
Han Solo
Footballguy
Voted Goodfellas. I played Yahoo texas hold em and spades in 98-99 and my screen name was Jim_The_Gent. Cant remember why i didnt use jimmy but it either could have been taken or i prefered jim, not sure. I loved casino and donnie brasco also. Read all the books after watching the movies. I cant remember going to the theatre for any of them but hope/wish i did. Seen them all so many times i just dont know. Alcohol and other things also cloud my memory. Anyway, Goodfellas will always be in my top 5 movies. It use to be number one but over the years ive added others. i agree with others that not alot of mob movies stand out since but the Departed was great. Im not sure how i missed this thread but enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts on everything. Can't wait to see either movie again for what i think would be the 100th time.
Insein
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I actually think I prefer The Departed to both Casino and Goodfellas. Certainly a testament of just loving the former that much, nothing against the latter.
I like both Goodfellas and Casino more than any Godfather movie as well, so not like I expect either to be the norm.
I like both Goodfellas and Casino more than any Godfather movie as well, so not like I expect either to be the norm.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Teumessian Fox
Wallet Inspector
She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The guy who complimented Ginger on being so gorgeous?She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
Teumessian Fox
Wallet Inspector
I was thinking Al, the guy who gambled away the heat moneyThe guy who complimented Ginger on being so gorgeous?She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
drummer
Footballguy
Character development isn't the strong part of this movie. The characters are basically others drawn from Scorsese's previous films. DeNiro and Pesci had worked together so many times before this that they could make this lame script work. The script didn't give Stone much range because she isn't that good of an actress. "Hey, let's make her stoned post the Woods beating scene". They could had given that same role to Annette Bening, and she would had added more to it.She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
Stone's best work was in Total Recall and Basic Instinct anyway. She was younger, hotter, more physical, sexier and had a horrid leading man in Ahnold. Jeebus, she had to work with a Joe Ezterhas script in BI. RN can probably attest to better scripts on a Digital Playground release than Ezterhas' one in Showgirls. She was a mess in "Gloria", post Casino, where given her post roles in mob movies such as Casino and her being the wife of Steven Segal basically made you remember why you never put her in the same sentence as Gena Rowlands. Which I did. Weird.
Casino is not near Goodfellas, and no where near Scorcese's best work. It's not a "great film, period". Not even in the top 20 of all time mob movies.
BTW, Casino, If this may not has been posted already, is one of the top 5 movies that use the F-word, all time. If it used the N-Word in place of that, then Jdog would call this Tarantino's greatest.
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Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
I woke up yesterday around 3am and couldn't get back to sleep so I watched Casino. It is a good movie but definitely not in the same tier for me as Godfather I/II, The Departed and Goodfellas. De Niro as a Jew seemed a stretch and I think Sharon Stone is very annoying especially in the second half of the movie.
One part of the movie that really stood out to me was after they talked about Ace seeing all the angles of running a casino better than anyone he refuses to hire back the BIL of the county commission guy. Even a job further down the trough. Seems to me he should have known it in his best interest to stick the guy somewhere because if he saw all the angles he would have to know this would come back to bite him.
One part of the movie that really stood out to me was after they talked about Ace seeing all the angles of running a casino better than anyone he refuses to hire back the BIL of the county commission guy. Even a job further down the trough. Seems to me he should have known it in his best interest to stick the guy somewhere because if he saw all the angles he would have to know this would come back to bite him.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Ugh. This again?Character development isn't the strong part of this movie. The characters are basically others drawn from Scorsese's previous films. DeNiro and Pesci had worked together so many times before this that they could make this lame script work. The script didn't give Stone much range because she isn't that good of an actress. "Hey, let's make her stoned post the Woods beating scene". They could had given that same role to Annette Bening, and she would had added more to it.She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
Stone's best work was in Total Recall and Basic Instinct anyway. She was younger, hotter, more physical, sexier and had a horrid leading man in Ahnold. Jeebus, she had to work with a Joe Ezterhas script in BI. RN can probably attest to better scripts on a Digital Playground release than Ezterhas' one in Showgirls. She was a mess in "Gloria", post Casino, where given her post roles in mob movies such as Casino and her being the wife of Steven Segal basically made you remember why you never put her in the same sentence as Gena Rowlands. Which I did. Weird.
Casino is not near Goodfellas, and no where near Scorcese's best work. It's not a "great film, period". Not even in the top 20 of all time mob movies.
BTW, Casino, If this may not has been posted already, is one of the top 5 movies that use the F-word, all time. If it used the N-Word in place of that, then Jdog would call this Tarantino's greatest.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
My vote is Tony Dogs, who shot up that bar (including that waitress who was working on her night off of all things) and took all that torture to protect Charlie ####### M.I was thinking Al, the guy who gambled away the heat moneyThe guy who complimented Ginger on being so gorgeous?She's not even the most reprehensible character in the movie
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I've tried a few times but have never been able to make it all the way through Casino
Rick James
Footballguy
Goodfellas by a huge margin.
Casino starts strong but everything after the first hour is just brutal.
Casino starts strong but everything after the first hour is just brutal.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Sharon Stone is great in Casino. You guys must have really hated Aida Turturo.
Rick James
Footballguy
Goodfellas by a huge margin.
Casino starts strong but everything after the first hour is just brutal.
Casino starts strong but everything after the first hour is just brutal.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
Really? Casino and Goodfellas always struck me as being pretty much the same movie in different settings.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Just looks that way because of Scorcese/DeNiro/Pesci. While I think it was perfectly casted, it was so close to Goodfellas that there was no way that wasn't going to be an issue for some.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
why no i havent seen either option?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
It's funny how that loud-mouth idiot from Kansas City brought it all down.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
ive seen parts of both but no the whole of either so i would be an unfair judge. i just feel slighted that i didnt qualify for an option.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I don't care if I ever see another Stone movie again. But she's excellent in Casino.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I've seen Casino twice and thought it was middling both times -- much better than a summer blockbuster, but I wouldn't even put in the same universe as Goodfellas. Sorry, but that whole film just reeked of somebody trying to remake Goodfellas.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
There is somewhat of a pattern here. Sharon Stone ruined Casino, Carmella and Janice ruined Sopranos, Margaret "what about the kids" Schroder ruins Boardwalk
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