Gore/ Hunter 2012 (1 Viewer)

[icehacka]

Whether he has been used on ST doesn't factor into it one bit IMO.

You are using past tense. I am not talking about last year. I am talking about fantasy projections for 2012 because the thread is "Replying to Gore/Hunter 2012". He is projected by the coaches to be a big special teams contributor. I have no qualms with some of the guys that played special teams before they became the lead back. The point is that once you are the #1, you are no longer a big special teams contributor. There is not enough gas left in the tank if your #1 rb sprinted 50 yards on kickoff coverage. This means that, for 2012, Frank Gore is still the man to own. He could get hurt and an opportunity for Hunter would be there, but then you are just predicting injuries.You can agree to disagree, but I am going to stick with my original statement on this one. Hunter is the special teams guy, Gore is the #1. Gore was a 2011 team captain, and he does not like to share his carries very much. If this is redraft, 2012 only, you should have Frank Gore.

IIRC, no one has said that Hunter is the #1 in San Fran. Gore will certainly be the starter week 1 of 2012 (if he's healthy.) A lot of this thread discusses the "changing of the guard" between the two throughout the season. Unless a guy has a huge injury, transitions don't happen overnight. Hunter will get his share of carries and receptions this year though. Its going to be a year where he may have the opportunity to take Gore's job before the season ends.

 

[Shutout]

Gore strikes me as a "thomas Jones" type; a tough-minded guy that can play through all the injuries and just keep grinding and grinding it out. yes, he always seems to have some type of injury tag associated with him, but much like SJAX, at the end of most days, the total are there and he ends up as a guy you want on your fantasy team.

barring a significant injury, I really don't see Gore going away anytime soon. I could see him tempering the value of Hunter (or anyone they draft) for at least 2 seasons.

As much love as Hunter has recently garnered, it looks like he may be the next version of JSTEW....waiting in the wings...

 

[mdlane]

Matt Maiocco (local beat guy) on Hunter:

5. Running back: Frank Gore is the starter, but the 49ers can be expected to try to upgrade behind him. Kendall Hunter is a change-of-pace back -- not an every-down solution. Anthony Dixon was in the doghouse a year ago because he was inconsistent with his assignments. Veteran Rock Cartwright was signed for his special-teams play. The 49ers are definitely in the market for a 215-plus-pound no-nonsense runner who is reliable in blitz pickup.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Ranking-the-49ers-draft-wants?blockID=677894&feedID=5936

Personally, I want to say Hunter showed he could do everything but short yardage (matter of opportunity IMO - they'd drag Dixon out there and he'd suck), but figured I'd post this to support what other people in this thread about local beat guys and Hunter. Guy has a lot of proving to do this season

 

[drummer]

Matt Maiocco (local beat guy) on Hunter:5. Running back: Frank Gore is the starter, but the 49ers can be expected to try to upgrade behind him. Kendall Hunter is a change-of-pace back -- not an every-down solution. Anthony Dixon was in the doghouse a year ago because he was inconsistent with his assignments. Veteran Rock Cartwright was signed for his special-teams play. The 49ers are definitely in the market for a 215-plus-pound no-nonsense runner who is reliable in blitz pickup.http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Ranking-the-49ers-draft-wants?blockID=677894&feedID=5936Personally, I want to say Hunter showed he could do everything but short yardage (matter of opportunity IMO - they'd drag Dixon out there and he'd suck), but figured I'd post this to support what other people in this thread about local beat guys and Hunter. Guy has a lot of proving to do this season

Who reads Maiocco anymore?I'm high on Hunter but I think the 49ers get another RB in the mix this coming season. Gore won't play a whole 16 games this season and is bound to get hurt and not play a game or two, maybe even more.

 

[Steed]

I guess you can disparage Maiocco, but Matt Barrows seems to be in lockstep with him.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/03/49ers-to-host-prolific-virginia-tech-running-back.html

Maybe it's a misdirection by the 49ers, but two of their most prominent beat writers seem to think RB is a priority.

 

[chinawildman]

I think the telling part regarding Hunter's upside as a full time starter is that the niners still brought in Anthony Dixon in situational (read goal line) spots that take away from Hunter's upside. I am as much a Hunter fan as the next guy, but I think in the best interest of the team, he will not be a workhorse kind of back.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

The guys they have behind Gore are not carry the load type guys,IMO. Hunter will get his best production as a COP situational back. I'm not sold on Dixon being able to carry the load either. They have to know Gore's not gonna last forever so they need to address the RB situation and find someone who can fill in for Gore now and be the lead back of the future. Not sure they'll be able to do that in the draft so they have somewhat of a dilemma on their hands. If they wanna continue to make the playoffs and possibly win a superbowl they will certainly have to address their running game.

 

[chinawildman]

I guess you can disparage Maiocco, but Matt Barrows seems to be in lockstep with him.http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/03/49ers-to-host-prolific-virginia-tech-running-back.htmlMaybe it's a misdirection by the 49ers, but two of their most prominent beat writers seem to think RB is a priority.

I have somewhat lost faith in the football credibility of the 2 Matts... especially Maiocco who seems to draw conclusions from thin air sometimes. His assessment of Perrish Cox's rookie year was that he struggled... yet everything I remember reading or watching coming out of denver has been to the contrary.http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Where-does-cornerback-Cox-figure-in-49er?blockID=678154&feedID=5936Most of what they write seem to just echo national sentiment (espn) and has little to do with any insider knowledge of the situation.

 

[JohnnyU]

The guys they have behind Gore are not carry the load type guys,IMO. Hunter will get his best production as a COP situational back. I'm not sold on Dixon being able to carry the load either. They have to know Gore's not gonna last forever so they need to address the RB situation and find someone who can fill in for Gore now and be the lead back of the future. Not sure they'll be able to do that in the draft so they have somewhat of a dilemma on their hands. If they wanna continue to make the playoffs and possibly win a superbowl they will certainly have to address their running game.

Too many experts in the Shark Pool on who can "carry the load". There isn't any reason why Kendall Hunter can't "carry the load". He has great vision, built well enough, and isn't afraid to run between the tackles. I've seen a lot smaller RBs "carry the load".

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

Brandon Jacobs is headed to the 49ers

Posted by Josh Alper on March 28, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he'll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it's a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter. Although he struggled mightily on short third and fourth down tries for the Giants in recent years, Jacobs does have a big body that defenses have a hard time stopping when it is going straight ahead. Jacobs' biggest problem has been his mistaken belief that he can be effective running parallel to the line of scrimmage before turning upfield.

Jacobs' other big problem has been incessant complaining about his role in the offense once the Giants decided to make Ahmad Bradshaw their lead back. Presumably he gets where he stands in the San Francisco pecking order and that won't be a problem with his new team. If he avoids those trouble spots, there should be good results for him with the Niners.

 

[JohnnyU]

Brandon Jacobs is headed to the 49ers

Posted by Josh Alper on March 28, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT last time Brandon Jacobs saw the 49ers, he watched them walk off the field as losers in the NFC Championship Game.

Now he'll be trying to help them avoid the same fate this season. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the 49ers and Jacobs have agreed to terms on a contract. There are no details about those terms, but it's a safe bet that it is for less than the $4 million that Jacobs was set to earn with the Giants before they released him earlier this month.

Jacobs gives the Niners backfield another look alongside Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter. Although he struggled mightily on short third and fourth down tries for the Giants in recent years, Jacobs does have a big body that defenses have a hard time stopping when it is going straight ahead. Jacobs' biggest problem has been his mistaken belief that he can be effective running parallel to the line of scrimmage before turning upfield.

Jacobs' other big problem has been incessant complaining about his role in the offense once the Giants decided to make Ahmad Bradshaw their lead back. Presumably he gets where he stands in the San Francisco pecking order and that won't be a problem with his new team. If he avoids those trouble spots, there should be good results for him with the Niners.

He will have a bit role if he makes the team.

 

[JPeso]

Funny to see folks overcompensating for whiffing on Spiller.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The guys they have behind Gore are not carry the load type guys,IMO. Hunter will get his best production as a COP situational back. I'm not sold on Dixon being able to carry the load either. They have to know Gore's not gonna last forever so they need to address the RB situation and find someone who can fill in for Gore now and be the lead back of the future. Not sure they'll be able to do that in the draft so they have somewhat of a dilemma on their hands. If they wanna continue to make the playoffs and possibly win a superbowl they will certainly have to address their running game.

Too many experts in the Shark Pool on who can "carry the load". There isn't any reason why Kendall Hunter can't "carry the load". He has great vision, built well enough, and isn't afraid to run between the tackles. I've seen a lot smaller RBs "carry the load".

According to CSN Bay Area's Matt Maiocco, Brandon Jacobs was signed in large part because the 49ers "don't have confidence in" Anthony Dixon and view Kendall Hunter as a "change-of-pace" back.We had already dumped Dixon, owner of a per-carry average of 3.3 in two years, even in deep Dynasty leagues. The 49ers will ditch him next. While we remain high on Hunter's ability, his Dynasty value is capped by the coaching staff's view that he's a complementary back as a opposed to a lead runner.

 

[JohnnyU]

According to CSN Bay Area's Matt Maiocco, Brandon Jacobs was signed in large part because the 49ers "don't have confidence in" Anthony Dixon and view Kendall Hunter as a "change-of-pace" back.

We had already dumped Dixon, owner of a per-carry average of 3.3 in two years, even in deep Dynasty leagues. The 49ers will ditch him next. While we remain high on Hunter's ability, his Dynasty value is capped by the coaching staff's view that he's a complementary back as a opposed to a lead runner.

I didn't realize Matt Maiocco was part of the coaching staff

 

[Hoosier16]

Funny to see folks overcompensating for whiffing on Spiller.

I'm not sure which side whiffed on Spiller yet, pro or anti.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

According to CSN Bay Area's Matt Maiocco, Brandon Jacobs was signed in large part because the 49ers "don't have confidence in" Anthony Dixon and view Kendall Hunter as a "change-of-pace" back.

We had already dumped Dixon, owner of a per-carry average of 3.3 in two years, even in deep Dynasty leagues. The 49ers will ditch him next. While we remain high on Hunter's ability, his Dynasty value is capped by the coaching staff's view that he's a complementary back as a opposed to a lead runner.

I didn't realize Matt Maiocco was part of the coaching staff

I'm well aware you own Hunter and are hoping for big things from the guy but you seem to have some serious blinders on. Hunter might become an every down back but the odds are definitely against it. It seems you think he's lined up to roll with the load the moment Gore goes down.

 

[Casting Couch]

Funny to see folks overcompensating for whiffing on Spiller.

I don't think Spiller was a whiff at all, I think he's the real deal. Kendall Hunter on the other hand, not so much.