Got this message about a league owner from another owner (1 Viewer)

[dickey moe]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

 

[mr roboto]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

Stay out of it. Pay the winner. Don't let him back if the above facts are true.

 

[renesauz]

Forward the email to owner A and ask him what's up. Barring some full admission of guilt and directions to give the $ to owner B, pay out as normal and let them figure it out.

 

[donkshow]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

It doesn't affect you and your league. As long as he pays and you've never had an issue, I wouldn't be too worried.

 

[B-Deep]

If he is a deserter then Owner B should contact the authorities, i don't think withholding fantasy winnings is the legal punishment for desertion.

Actually, he should have contacted the authorities a long time ago.

AND is the work FFL an army league?

this seems odd

 

[Da Guru]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

Don`t get involved in prior spats or debt collecting that does not involve you or your league. If A is paid in full for your league it is up to you to pay him whatever he has coming.

 

[dickey moe]

If he is a deserter then Owner B should contact the authorities, i don't think withholding fantasy winnings is the legal punishment for desertion.Actually, he should have contacted the authorities a long time ago.AND is the work FFL an army league?this seems odd

Owner B is a civilian employee -- I don't know the work status of Owner A.

 

[jdubs952]

Forward the email to owner A and ask him what's up. Barring some full admission of guilt and directions to give the $ to owner B, pay out as normal and let them figure it out.

Stay out of it. This is terrible advice.

 

[B-Deep]

huh, who would have thought

In the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; while, after 1861, tattoos or branding were also adopted. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 18 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement during the Iraq War. Occasionally deserters are just required to surrender any winnings they might earn in fantasy sports leagues.

 

[Brede]

If he is a deserter then Owner B should contact the authorities, i don't think withholding fantasy winnings is the legal punishment for desertion.Actually, he should have contacted the authorities a long time ago.AND is the work FFL an army league?this seems odd

Also seems odd that he's just bringing this up now. It seems like Owner A has been in the league a couple of years. Why didn't Owner B object to him being in the league at any point before? I agree that you should pay the winner.

 

[renesauz]

I should clarify. I'm not advocating getting in the middle of it.

Forward the message, clearly state you're not going to get involved beyond this. State only that if it's true you can forward winnings to the other party only at owner As request. With no response or a denial you pay owner A. Simple.

 

[My Hope Street Alias]

huh, who would have thoughtIn the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; while, after 1861, tattoos or branding were also adopted. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 18 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement during the Iraq War. Occasionally deserters are just required to surrender any winnings they might earn in fantasy sports leagues.

 

[B-Deep]

If he is a deserter then Owner B should contact the authorities, i don't think withholding fantasy winnings is the legal punishment for desertion.Actually, he should have contacted the authorities a long time ago.AND is the work FFL an army league?this seems odd

Also seems odd that he's just bringing this up now. It seems like Owner A has been in the league a couple of years. Why didn't Owner B object to him being in the league at any point before? I agree that you should pay the winner.

no doubtthieving deserters are ok, until they beat you in fantasy sports!Did he go AWOL because he stole the money? Like his criminal plan was enlist, get control over fantasy football money, then flee the army and join a new FF league?I guess it worked...i'd prolly make him treasurer

 

[dickey moe]

huh, who would have thoughtIn the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; while, after 1861, tattoos or branding were also adopted. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 18 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement during the Iraq War. Occasionally deserters are just required to surrender any winnings they might earn in fantasy sports leagues.

Freedom isn't Free,There's a Hefty FF Fee.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I would definitely forward that email to the proper Army authorities.

 

[Warhogs]

Your job as commissioner is to pay out the winnings as intended. End of story.

 

[B-Deep]

I would definitely forward that email to the proper Army authorities.

The military does not pay rewards for information received concerning the whereabouts of absentees and deserters. (Exception: If the deserter is also wanted for serious crimes such as theft of fantasy football treasury, rape, or murder the services sometime offer rewards for information leading to their capture.) However, if you believe you know the whereabouts of someone who is AWOL or has deserted, you can report them to the individual service's Deserter Information Point, who will then determine whether or not the person is in desertion or AWOL status and take appropriate action. The DIP phone numbers are:Army: (502) 626-3711/ 3712/3713Navy: (847) 688-2106 (or toll free: 1-800-423-7633)Marine Corps: (703) 614-3248/3376Air Force: (210) 566-3752 (or toll free: 1-800-531-5501)Coast Guard: 1-800-986-9678 ext. 3-6600

 

[heidbrink]

Tattle tales tell two tales...

Owner A has quite a lot of nerve asking you to do this if you ask me. Follow the rules according to your league, end of story.

 

[We Tigers]

Proper response: "Uh, cool. I'm gonna pay whoever wins. Sorry you don't like him."

 

[Ghost Rider]

Stay out of it and pay out the winnings as necessary. I would tell Owner B that stuff like that has nothing to do with YOUR league.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

i don't think withholding fantasy winnings is the legal punishment for desertion.

 

[Quibbler]

Proper response: "Uh, cool. I'm gonna pay whoever wins. Sorry you don't like him."

huh, who would have thoughtIn the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; while, after 1861, tattoos or branding were also adopted. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 18 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement during the Iraq War. Occasionally deserters are just required to surrender any winnings they might earn in fantasy sports leagues.

 

[Mjolnirs]

Your job as commissioner is to pay out the winnings as intended. End of story.

 

[encaitar]

Send an email back to Owner B saying you can't do anything about the previous dealings he has had with Owner A. Your job as the commissioner is to collect the dues, ensure no cheating is happening, and pay out the winners(as long as they pay their dues).

 

[Casting Couch]

huh, who would have thoughtIn the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; while, after 1861, tattoos or branding were also adopted. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 18 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement during the Iraq War. Occasionally deserters are just required to surrender any winnings they might earn in fantasy sports leagues.

PS... Don't get involved in this. Pay the man his winnings and let those two work things out.

 

[dickey moe]

Send an email back to Owner B saying you can't do anything about the previous dealings he has had with Owner A. Your job as the commissioner is to collect the dues, ensure no cheating is happening, and pay out the winners(as long uas they pay their dues).

Yeah this is pretty much how I see it I guess.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

If this is true, why would owner B have agreed to let him into the league in the first place and only now raised a stink about it? Something definitely smells fishy here to me. I would agree with the majority in this thread and just stay out of any non league related disputes between these owners and let owner B know that in no uncertain terms.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I love the fact he says "if you dont want to give it to me" lol planting a seed and hoping it grows.

Who ever sent this email is a funny. Paid that man,pay that man his money

 

[Joe Summer]

Forward the email to the Army.

 

[dickey moe]

If this is true, why would owner B have agreed to let him into the league in the first place and only now raised a stink about it? Something definitely smells fishy here to me. I would agree with the majority in this thread and just stay out of any non league related disputes between these owners and let owner B know that in no uncertain terms.

I think the "thievery" of the other funds may have been a recent development.

 

[mad sweeney]

If it doesn't have anything to do with your league then it's not your problem to deal with.

 

[dhockster]

I love the fact he says "if you dont want to give it to me" lol planting a seed and hoping it grows.Who ever sent this email is a funny. Paid that man,pay that man his money

He won fair and square -Teddy KGB

 

[B-Deep]

you should forward the email to owner A though

i want to hear his side

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

Don`t get involved in prior spats or debt collecting that does not involve you or your league.

 

[Abraham]

Proper response: "Uh, cool. I'm gonna pay whoever wins. Sorry you don't like him."

 

[Alkahsu]

Plain and simple - This has nothing to do with your league so leave it alone.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The guy is a jackazz for even trying to drag you into this.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Pay the man and don't forward that email to anyone.

 

[Bamac]

I would definitely forward that email to the proper Army authorities.

The military does not pay rewards for information received concerning the whereabouts of absentees and deserters. (Exception: If the deserter is also wanted for serious crimes such as theft of fantasy football treasury, rape, or murder the services sometime offer rewards for information leading to their capture.) However, if you believe you know the whereabouts of someone who is AWOL or has deserted, you can report them to the individual service's Deserter Information Point, who will then determine whether or not the person is in desertion or AWOL status and take appropriate action. The DIP phone numbers are:Army: (502) 626-3711/ 3712/3713Navy: (847) 688-2106 (or toll free: 1-800-423-7633)Marine Corps: (703) 614-3248/3376Air Force: (210) 566-3752 (or toll free: 1-800-531-5501)Coast Guard: 1-800-986-9678 ext. 3-6600

Odds are the tattler is just an ###. Just in case, forward him these phone numbers. Your role is then complete.

 

[cstu]

Sure, just what you want...a thieving military deserter pissed off at you.

 

[DoubleG]

Pay the man and don't forward that email to anyone.

 

[bakes]

So I'm the commish in a long-time league, and I got this message from another owner yesterday about one of the owners who made our Super Bowl:

Hey man,OWNER A is a deserter from our Army unit, he also stole the treasury of our work FFL, $300. I really wish you would withhold any winnings he may win. If you dont wanna give it to me roll it over for next years pot. And I highly doubt hell be back next year.Thanks man OWNER B

Owner B has been in the league since its inception and Owner A, while a more recent owner, has always paid his dues and has never created a problem for our league. I would tend to let them handle the situation outside of the confines of our own league, but what do you think?

Tell him that you're certain that Gene, Paul, Peter and Ace have gotten over the slight so he should move on as well.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Forward the email to owner A and ask him what's up. Barring some full admission of guilt and directions to give the $ to owner B, pay out as normal and let them figure it out.

Stay out of it. This is terrible advice.

 

[yortstop]

By chance, did team B ask to be paid in small unmarked bills?

 

[B-Deep]

why are people saying don;t forward it?

don't you want to find out what the other owner has to say????

where is your sense of adventure?

 

[dickey moe]

why are people saying don;t forward it?don't you want to find out what the other owner has to say????where is your sense of adventure?

If I weren't commish I'd do this for fun, but I don't want to take any chances effing up this league.

 

[dickey moe]

By chance, did team B ask to be paid in small unmarked bills?

Wheat pennies, in tight rolls.

 

[Hoot McGoot]

Obviously it wasn't a problem to put a "deserter" in the league initially, then it isn't your problem to deal with.

"Pay da man his money."

 

[B-Deep]

why are people saying don;t forward it?don't you want to find out what the other owner has to say????where is your sense of adventure?

If I weren't commish I'd do this for fun, but I don't want to take any chances effing up this league.

do you think you are the only one that owner B has talked to about owner A?there's an issue with these two, and it is going to fester in your league until one leaves or they work it outowners d-m are all going to get an email about how the comish is harboring a deserter if you pay out.it's time to puncture this wound and let all the pus out into the open. and make sure you post in here about it too

 

[renesauz]

why are people saying don;t forward it?don't you want to find out what the other owner has to say????where is your sense of adventure?

If I weren't commish I'd do this for fun, but I don't want to take any chances effing up this league.

do you think you are the only one that owner B has talked to about owner A?there's an issue with these two, and it is going to fester in your league until one leaves or they work it outowners d-m are all going to get an email about how the comish is harboring a deserter if you pay out.it's time to puncture this wound and let all the pus out into the open. and make sure you post in here about it too

I agree with the majority about becoming too involved, but ignoring it completely doesn't seem like a good idea either. That's why I advocated forwarding the email and letting owner A respond.