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Gr00vus's Favorite 50 Songs - 1: Synchronicity II (1 Viewer)

Don't want to overshadow what you're doing, brovus - i'm sure folks would rather hear more from you and less from me, so keep it going thataway. When i connect with something i wanna spew that feeling, but i doesn't hasta.
There's no overshadowing in this thread. I already know what I think of these tunes and the stuff around them, I'm much more interested in hearing what others have to say, than rehashing my own deal. I think of this more as me facilitating some discussion of the songs (or whatever tangents they spark).

It's like Fast Times At Ridgemont High - this is our time. Whether you want to bring the pizza or just grab a slice, it's all good. I have no idea who Mr. Hand is in this scenario.

Your stories, @Eephus's hot takes @Snorkelson's Ween fetish, getting @shuke some more music sources, etc. - that's what this thread is all about.

 
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aloha!

I haven't listened to Joni at all, outside of the odd radio or live clip here or there. always like what I hear, but need to be in the right mood.... cool to hear it in here.

 
"'Cause I've seen some hot hot blazes come down to smoke and ash"

47: Help Me, Joni Mitchell, 1974

I'm a sucker for women who can sing, nothing more sexy. This lady can sing, her range is ridiculous. Not only that, she has this ability to apply a seemingly happy veneer to seriously melancholy material, like this song. It captures the anticipation, doubt, fear, insecurity, joy, nervousness, self awareness of a relationship on shaky ground perfectly. The band behind her, The L.A. Express (no relation to the old USFL team I don't think),  are a bunch of majorly accomplished musicians, who nail the lite-jazz/ez listening feel on this tune. This one goes out to all the flautists.

I'll drop out here, as I expect @wikkidpissah probably has some Joni Mitchell adjacent experiences we all want to read.
now we're talkin'.  

 
okeydokey

Well, it's Joni, maaaan - the most interested and interesting musician of my time.

I worked with and got to know many of that gen of female tunesmiths but i never met her. And i wish i had because i am more overwhelmed by her power & curiosity than any modern artist of which i'm aware. I first went to Hollywood with a great female artist, Bonnie Raitt and, even with it being her home turf (her dad was in showbiz) and with the protection of Lowell and the Feat guys, she got bashed 'round, bullied & belittled at every turn by the cool & brutal sexism that overran that town. For Miss Mitchell, not only a pretty blonde but one goofy-looking enough that those freaques (even, and sometimes especially,  the ones she loved) could put her down just as easily as adore her, to hang in with that scene til she was taken seriously as a str8up player was a feat which actually deserves the word "awesome".

My most significant Joni Mitchell memory is more interesting to me than any showbiz story anyway. There was a preacher's kid in my town who i started to hang with when my course as a teen runaway brought me back to Salem cuz his father, as a minister, considered his home a sanctuary (time for moose cupcakes, kids!) and wouldnt rat me out to my folks if i stayed with them a couple days. The wandering hippie course was generally scary for a 16-17yo so it was a nice break to get in a couple days hang with my ol school buds now & then before i hit the road again.

The other good thing is that the PK was a big, goofy good-lookin' kid who chicks clustered around so there was always cute girls at his hangs, a rarity for hangs then. And speaking of goofy, the only turntable in the house was a largish portable that Andy would place in the middle of the living room and we'd all sit around it. I remember the hot records with our set were Aqualung, Tapestry (ugh), Tarkus, a Cat Stevens, Every Picture Tells a Story and a Nilsson record that had the f-word on it. Somebody wanted to put on the new Joni Mitchell album, Blue, but us doods had already listen to Tapestry like twice and wanted to rock out. Joni was a chirpy folk chick anyway (though i had loved her song from Alice's Restaurant) but the girl who wanted it was cute so......

Strummy strummy strummy. I HATE strummy ####. Wanna rock....Hmmmm.....her voice is deeper and she's not singing about about flowers & clouds & peace. She's singing about being lonely & sad. Chicks aren't lonely & sad, they're cute & confusing. If her old man is a singer in the park, walker in the rain, dancer in the dark, why is she so damn sad?!

By Blue, she had us. We weren't kids on the make, in on the take, we grew up into depressed ####s in the course of one record. We could feel the cold of the river she wanted to skate away on. We listened to it again. We listened to it again. We put on another record, took it off and listened to it again. I look into the eyes of the other girls without looking for signs they might dig me. Weirder than an acid trip, man. Wassupwiddat?

I've traveled everywhere Joni has gone since. It's been over a decade since she made an album and i miss it even though some of the latter ones were as awful as Neil Young records. Bach is the only other artist i'm a completist on. So there's that.

 
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okeydokey

Well, it's Joni, maaaan - the most interested and interesting musician of my time.

I worked with and got to know many of that gen of female tunesmiths but i never met her. And i wish i had because i am more overwhelmed by her power & curiosity than any modern artist of which i'm aware. I first went to Hollywood with a great female artist, Bonnie Raitt and, even with it being her home turf (her dad was in showbiz) and with the protection of Lowell and the Feat guys, she got bashed 'round, bullied & belittled at every turn by the cool & brutal sexism that overran that town. For Miss Mitchell, not only a pretty blonde but one goofy-looking enough that those freaques (even, and sometimes especially,  the ones she loved) could put her down just as easily as adore her, to hang in with that scene til she was taken seriously as a str8up player was a feat which actually deserves the word "awesome".

My most significant Joni Mitchell memory is more interesting to me than any showbiz story anyway. There was a preacher's kid in my town who i started to hang with when my course as a teen runaway brought me back to Salem cuz his father, as a minister, considered his home a sanctuary (time for moose cupcakes, kids!) and wouldnt rat me out to my folks if i stayed with them a couple days. The wandering hippie course was generally scary for a 16-17yo so it was a nice break to get in a couple days hang with my ol school buds now & then before i hit the road again.

The other good thing is that the PK was a big, goofy good-lookin' kid that chicks loved so there was always cute girls at his hangs, a rarity for hangs then. And speaking of goofy, the only turntable in the house was a largish portable that Andy would place in the middle of the living room and we'd all sit around it. I remember the hot records with our set were Aqualung, Tapestry (ugh), Tarkus, a Cat Stevens, Every Picture Tells a Story and a Nilsson record that had the f-word on it. Somebody wanted to put on the new Joni Mitchell album, Blue, but us doods had already listen to Tapestry like twice and wanted to rock out. Joni was a chirpy folk chick anyway (though i had loved her song from Alice's Restaurant) but the girl who wanted it was cute so......

Strummy strummy strummy. I HATE strummy ####. Wanna rock....Hmmmm.....her voice is deeper and she's not singing about about flowers & clouds & peace. She's singing about being lonely & sad. Chicks aren't lonely & sad, they're cute & confusing. If her old man is a singer in the park, walker in the rain, dancer in the dark, why is she so damn sad?!

By Blue, she had us. We weren't kids on the make, in on the take, we grew up into depressed ####s in the course of one record. We could feel the cold of the river she wanted to skate away on. We listened to it again. We listened to it again. We put on another record, took it off and listened to it again. I look into the eyes of the other girls without looking for signs they might dig me. Weirder than an acid trip, man. Wassupwiddat?

I've traveled everywhere Joni has gone since. It's been over a decade since she made an album and i miss it even though some of the latter ones were as awful as Neil Young records. Bach is the only other artist i'm a completist on. So there's that.
Now we're talkin'

 
"Come my beloved, I long for your embrace."

46: Fabric, Midival Pundits/Hira Devi Mishra, 2001

Here's a little electronica by way of India. This song is from the soundtrack of one of my favorite movies, Monsoon Wedding. If you're going to program a rhythm track, this is how you do it. I love the subsonic booms, the backbeat delivered via a mashup of a super tight snare and a cross stick, and the stutter time breaks they throw in. The simple sitarish strings are hypnotic. And the star of this show are the vocals delivered by Hira Devi Mishra (don't know if it's a sample or they brought her in to sing this for this track). They have a wonderful ethereal quality, turning longing into a peaceful trance like state.

There are many other good songs on this soundtrack, but this one has always stood out from among them.

 
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"Come my beloved, I long for your embrace."

46: Fabric, Midival Pundits/Hira Devi Mishra, 2001

Here's a little electronica by way of India. This song is from the soundtrack of one of my favorite movies, Monsoon Wedding. If you're going to program a rhythm track, this is how you do it. I love the subsonic booms, the backbeat delivered via a mashup of a super tight snare and a cross stick, and the stutter time breaks they throw in. The simple sitarish strings are hypnotic. And the star of this show are the vocals delivered by Hira Devi Mishra (don't know if it's a sample or they brought her in to sing this for this track). They have a wonderful ethereal quality, turning longing into a peaceful trance like state.

There are many other good songs on this soundtrack, but this one has always stood out from among them.
reminds me a bit of this tune from talvin singh back in my drum & bass/ electronica days.

 
"Help Me" is a pretty straightforward song by Joni standards.  It was her only US top ten hit recording during a brief layover in the middle of the road while moving between her folkie and jazzbo phases.  The lyric is short on the wordiness and use of metaphor that typifies her songwriting.

It's a song about modern love.  The narrator's brain and heart have an argument about falling in love.  Musically, I think the song takes off with the bridge.  Joni sings "Didn't it feel good..." while the horns and backup singers swell in the background.

Favorite lyric:  "But not like we love our freedom" is a very 1970s feminist line

Cover version: k.d. lang.  This one is terrific IMO.  I listened to a few other versions (Wynonna, Chaka Khan, Mandy Moore, Will Young) but came back to this one.  Lang takes the tempo down a bit.  The strummed guitars, horns and electric piano are all still there but it differs enough from Joni's original to make it worthwhile.

 
"Help Me" is a pretty straightforward song by Joni standards.  It was her only US top ten hit recording during a brief layover in the middle of the road while moving between her folkie and jazzbo phases.  The lyric is short on the wordiness and use of metaphor that typifies her songwriting.

It's a song about modern love.  The narrator's brain and heart have an argument about falling in love.  Musically, I think the song takes off with the bridge.  Joni sings "Didn't it feel good..." while the horns and backup singers swell in the background.

Favorite lyric:  "But not like we love our freedom" is a very 1970s feminist line

Cover version: k.d. lang.  This one is terrific IMO.  I listened to a few other versions (Wynonna, Chaka Khan, Mandy Moore, Will Young) but came back to this one.  Lang takes the tempo down a bit.  The strummed guitars, horns and electric piano are all still there but it differs enough from Joni's original to make it worthwhile.
That's a great cover, it's super plush. Thanks for posting it.

 
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"Help Me" is a pretty straightforward song by Joni standards.  It was her only US top ten hit recording during a brief layover in the middle of the road while moving between her folkie and jazzbo phases.  The lyric is short on the wordiness and use of metaphor that typifies her songwriting.

It's a song about modern love.  The narrator's brain and heart have an argument about falling in love.  Musically, I think the song takes off with the bridge.  Joni sings "Didn't it feel good..." while the horns and backup singers swell in the background.

Favorite lyric:  "But not like we love our freedom" is a very 1970s feminist line

Cover version: k.d. lang.  This one is terrific IMO.  I listened to a few other versions (Wynonna, Chaka Khan, Mandy Moore, Will Young) but came back to this one.  Lang takes the tempo down a bit.  The strummed guitars, horns and electric piano are all still there but it differs enough from Joni's original to make it worthwhile.
am I wrong in thinking that KD doesn't usually go as high as she does there? sounds great... 

 
am I wrong in thinking that KD doesn't usually go as high as she does there? sounds great... 
She switches in and out of falsetto beautifully in the song.

K.d. had that collaboration with Neko Case and Laura Veirs a few years ago but hasn't released any solo material for a decade.

 
"Come my beloved, I long for your embrace."

46: Fabric, Midival Pundits/Hira Devi Mishra, 2001

Here's a little electronica by way of India. This song is from the soundtrack of one of my favorite movies, Monsoon Wedding. If you're going to program a rhythm track, this is how you do it. I love the subsonic booms, the backbeat delivered via a mashup of a super tight snare and a cross stick, and the stutter time breaks they throw in. The simple sitarish strings are hypnotic. And the star of this show are the vocals delivered by Hira Devi Mishra (don't know if it's a sample or they brought her in to sing this for this track). They have a wonderful ethereal quality, turning longing into a peaceful trance like state.

There are many other good songs on this soundtrack, but this one has always stood out from among them.
Far too fleekly woke to indulge in the cultural appropriations necessary to give this one its due, I turn the job over to my spiritual guru, cornhole partner and accountant, Buddy Satva:

Ahhhh, fabric. Very pleasing to me. Just recently, I was cast from my temple for fingering a nivi near the lingam, like a Hindu Costanza, but i just couldn't resist the silken glory of her draping

Fabric is life and life is a fabric. In just my own homespun, I can see all the numbers in Gr00vus's Top 50, the dreams & fears of all the performers of his favorite songs, many of my past lives (that i can remember, I've been a mogul, a mongoose, an outcast, a cluster of navel lint and an even lower form of existence, a DJ) and several tikka masala stains. Such is the path. If it is to be seen, my chakra can........chakra can, chakra can, let me rock you chakra can.

 
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"Come my beloved, I long for your embrace."

46: Fabric, Midival Pundits/Hira Devi Mishra, 2001

Here's a little electronica by way of India. This song is from the soundtrack of one of my favorite movies, Monsoon Wedding. If you're going to program a rhythm track, this is how you do it. I love the subsonic booms, the backbeat delivered via a mashup of a super tight snare and a cross stick, and the stutter time breaks they throw in. The simple sitarish strings are hypnotic. And the star of this show are the vocals delivered by Hira Devi Mishra (don't know if it's a sample or they brought her in to sing this for this track). They have a wonderful ethereal quality, turning longing into a peaceful trance like state.

There are many other good songs on this soundtrack, but this one has always stood out from among them.
Bengali Bachelor Pad Music.  The modern equivalent of early 60s Exotica like Martin Denny and Esquivel.  Cool track though.

Favorite lyrics:    Tohe garva laga doon

Couldn't find any cover versions.  I thought somebody would have at least sampled it but apparently not according to www.whosampled.com

 
"The sooner we begin the longer we've got to groove"

45: Boogie Oogie Oogie, A Taste Of Honey, 1978

Getting you prepped for you Saturday night happenings, I dare you to listen to this song and not be put in a good frame of mind. The two ladies up front are what elevates this song above just about almost all other disco fare. Hazel Pane plays the guitar (and a quite tasty guitar it is) and sings back up vocals. Janice-Marie Johnson is front and center on lead vocals and bass. And this is an all time bass line here. This song spent 3 weeks at #1 and has been pretty much synonymous with the band (or the other way around) ever since.

The band/label has put out a zillion variations of this song, the link above is for the original radio edit. I don't envy @Eephus the task of choosing covers and samples for this one - there are plenty. Anyway here's a full edit (about two minutes longer). Here's a live version from about 1978. Here's a live version from about 2001. I believe Janice-Marie Johnson is still out there touring to this day on the back of this tune, and she's still got it.

That 2001 clip is relevant to me in particular. I got my grad degree in the summer of 2000, and some friends and I decided to hit vegas to celebrate. Just out of grad school meant I was low rent, so we stayed downtown. I don't know how many of you have spent time in downtown Vegas, but its a very different experience from the strip, one that we actually enjoyed in our 20's and early 30's. It's a totally different mix of people, it's totally casual, everything is close together, everything is cheap.

Anyway, I was on about my 3rd football full of beer when we decided to wander around Freemont blvd after watching the Lakers get crushed by the Pacers in game 5 of the NBA Finals. They had been setting up a concert stage throughout the day. As we approach the stage, the band is just warming up. I didn't recognize them, but it looked to be some kind of R&B act - which isn't exactly the band to match the "Freemont Experience" demographic. We got to the front, which wasn't hard since there were maybe 20 other people paying attention to this, and as we get there, they jump into this song. Turns out it was A Taste Of Honey.

I think I spent the next hour and a half up there, my friends shuttling me additional footballs of beer as I emptied the last, and I think Janice-Marie Johnson and company played this song 78 times. I really can't remember them playing any other songs. I'm sure they must have, but I know they played this song to completion and then started right back in on it again multiple, multiple times. By the end of it, I think I was the only one left there paying any attention to them. And I'd "dance" maniacally and cheer them on every, single, time. Maybe that's what cleared the rest of the "crowd" off now that I think of it. Well, anyway, it was a near perfect moment in my life. Still brings a smile to my face.

Allright everyone, get down, boogie oogie oogie this fine Saturday.

 
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Gr00vus said:
"The sooner we begin the longer we've got to groove"

45: Boogie Oogie Oogie, A Taste Of Honey, 1978
Disco was so ridiculously stoopit. Disco was so ridiculously wonderful. Lucky me.

Yeah, this ol hippie had hisself a disco phase. In the late 70s my HS sweetheart, when her old man split to Mexico, invited me to take his place in this commune she was at in northern NM. Showbiz was giving me ulcers, migraines & palpitations so i obliged. When i got there, i found myself one of about a half-dozen men among over thirty hot hippie chicks who had homesteaded a bunch of miners' shacks in the mountains above Santa Fe. I was actually glad when her old man came back so i could taste some of the other bonbons in that Wikkman's sampler. Lucky me.

There was one gal who i really wanted, cute as lace pants and a really interesting singer (and i could still help really interesting singers in those days), but i never got there before she & her ol' man left our li'l enclave to set up housekeeping in the capital. While we stayed in touch and she was my date in my "Sting @ the Sockhop" story, we remained platonic. I moved down to Albuquerque myself after a year because, i mean, how much naked bliss can a lucky man take, but i also kept moving back & forth from NYC each time a showbiz op (auditioned for SNL, my old company had a chance to sign 'til Tuesday, co-wrote a sitcom pilot for ABC etc) popped up. In The City, did my time @ 54 and especially Mudd Club and, though not a natural, developed a fairly interesting disco style. Lucky me.

Albq had nothing disco-wise til the early 80s, then it 'sploded. First, someone converted a waffle house on the interstate into a fancy disco (had the great pleasure of hanging w Hakeem Olajuwon and Jimmy V & his Wildcats there when they were in Burque for the Final Four ), complete with a party lounge where everything was onyx & fur & cocaine. When that became a rager, one of Rockefeller grandchildren (the fam was heavily invested in Albq for some reason) decided to turn a shopping mall into a full service disco, Grand Central. It was nuts - there was a huge disco floor, a performance space (where everyone from Cheap Trick to, yes, A Taste of Honey, to the seminal New Wave band Moose Cupcakes performed) and even an Urban Cowboy area with bullrides & bootscoots. Perfectly ridiculous place, but perfect for a town just beginning to be infected with Western Sprawl. Lucky me.

Ran into the singer gal in Santa Fe and she as got as much a kick that i settled in Albq (nobody hip did that then, still dont) as i was that she was all familied up. She asked me if i'd been to Grand Central and i said yeah), Then she said my favorite woman word, "Oooh!". "I'd like to try that sometime". Lucky me.

I was closing in on 30 then and never really liked making the scene but seriously had no taste nor talent for coupling (still dont, people are boring). I had worked in a psych hosp where there was a nurse who was trapped in a marriage with a tech nerd she hated but was determined to fully raise her kids with (she indeed filed for divorce the DAY her nest emptied) who honed in on me as a hobby. I let it happen, she let the word out, like women do, around the hosp that i was decent in a pinch and could keep a secret and boom half the female staff of the place was on me. Turns out there is no one in greater need of spoiling than a woman past her 1st married decade or 2nd child and there's nothing boring about spoiling people. Lucky me....

So when I invited this Naomi to come disco down in 'Burque, i was already a pro at this. Calls me a few weeks later with a weekend's alibi. She preferred Hungry Tiger (onyx & fur) to Grand Central and turned out to absolutely LOVE cocaine. I've worked up a lot of sweats with women, but never one who demonstrably released that many bats from her cave doing so as Naomi did in our disco assignations (including taking in AToH @ GC) . Put the oogie in boogie, i can tell you that. Lucky me.

 
"You can never have enough Os."

44: Jerk Out, The Time, 1990

The original lineup one last time, all hands on deck for my favorite, funkiest Time tune. Some of you may be thinking - this one? Not Cool, or The Walk, or The Bird, or Jungle Love? All great songs, but nope. This was of course a song created by Prince initially, but after about 8 years of trying to find another home for it, he gave it to the Time and they made it their own. The band had fractured after their 2nd album, and then again after their 3rd. This one brought them all back together again with all the skills and craft they had honed in their time apart making this my favorite track of theirs. The braggadocio is still there, the sound is a bit more sleak than past efforts, and the bass line is killer, both the influence of a mature Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis production effort. Jesse Johnson delivers deft rhythm licks and a searing solo. Jerome has a thing or two to say. Another thing I like about this one is that the poor women Morris Day habitually harasses in his songs actually get a chance to respond in this one, which makes it a bit more fun for me. And that's what this band has always been about (at least the part that was public facing) - fun. Prince's alter ego party band. Revel in their jerktitude as they do in this track.

 
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Last year The Time played in an outdoor summer concert about a half mile from me. Still sounded great from my front porch. :pickle:

 
"I know all we're doing is traveling without moving."

43: Traveling Without Moving, Jamiroquai, 1996

This song here is all about the bass and the drums. The lyrics are somewhat silly, somewhat a lifting of Frank Herbert. But the bass and the drums make this an all time favorite for me anyway. There's a lot of conflict in the Jamiroquai fan community about which bassist is "the" Jamiroquai bassist, but Stuart Zender is usually the lead choice, and he's the man here. This bass track is ridiculous. Then there's Derrick McKenzie on drums. FANTASTIC. There's really only maybe one or two other drummers (which we will encounter subsequently in the countdown) who might be funkier/tighter. And he's lights out on this one. The middle part of the song is how you do it, with bookend crisp disco beats surrounding on the other 2/3 of the song. But that middle part - holy mackerel. That's fun for the bass drum foot right there.

This is one of my favorite bands, in all its various incarnations, probably because McKenzie has been a staple with them since about 1994. They also have a great percussionist (Sola Akingbola) though he's not very prominent in this song, and employ excellent bassists, regardless of which one is your favorite. They are such a wonderful mix of funk and disco, updated just enough to not sound stuck in the late 70's. Folding space never sounded so good.

 
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Catching up:

Boogie Oogie Oogie:   Pretty inoffensive pop disco from a two-hit wonder band

Favorite lyric:  None to speak of really but the bassline by Janice Marie Johnson is the straw that stirs the drink

Cover:   "All Night All Right" by Australian pop star Peter Andre featuring Warren G samples the bassline.

 
Jerk Out:  The Time's music hasn't aged very well IMO.  They come off closer to Ready For the World than they do Prince.  I understand Morris Day's player schtick but they can't get through the misogynistic tale fast enough to get to the call-and-response chorus.

No covers that I could find.

 
Traveling Without Moving:  I consider the last three picks as jams rather than songs.  They're constructed around a beat more than a typical verse/chorus/bridge structure.  There's nothing wrong with that but it's tough do a formalist breakdown when it's mostly vamping, especially when it's an album cut from a band that was never very popular in this country.  They must have been huge elsewhere because JK has an incredible collection of vintage Ferraris.  It's enough to make you want to wear a stupid hat and dance on a moving sidewalk.

 
"I know all we're doing is traveling without moving."

43: Traveling Without Moving, Jamiroquai, 1996

This song here is all about the bass and the drums. The lyrics are somewhat silly, somewhat a lifting of Frank Herbert. But the bass and the drums make this an all time favorite for me anyway. There's a lot of conflict in the Jamiroquai fan community about which bassist is "the" Jamiroquai bassist, but Stuart Zender is usually the lead choice, and he's the man here. This bass track is ridiculous. Then there's Derrick McKenzie on drums. FANTASTIC. There's really only maybe one or two other drummers (which we will encounter subsequently in the countdown) who might be funkier/tighter. And he's lights out on this one. The middle part of the song is how you do it, with bookend crisp disco beats surrounding on the other 2/3 of the song. But that middle part - holy mackerel. That's fun for the bass drum foot right there.

This is one of my favorite bands, in all its various incarnations, probably because McKenzie has been a staple with them since about 1994. They also have a great percussionist (Sola Akingbola) though he's not very prominent in this song, and employ excellent bassists, regardless of which one is your favorite. They are such a wonderful mix of funk and disco, updated just enough to not sound stuck in the late 70's. Folding space never sounded so good.
TWM was the last cassette tape i ever bought. I bought it cuz it is right up there with Santana Abraxas, Focus Hocus Pocus, Born to Run, Bobby Brown's Dont Be Cruel and TWM's chillmaster What's Goin' On as a car tape. I still had a car with a cassette deck when it came out because i had a classic car, a 1975 Cadillac Eldorado convertible, cherry in color and condition.

My Mary loved that car. I've told this story here more than once before, but indulge me. When i moved to Reno, i did so in a van, for my stuff. I'm not a car guy, so i just kept driving day2day when i got there. While Mary & I were  :heart: @1 :eek: , like all the good ones, she was taken. As i negotiated her release, there were two things she was adamant on - i do sum'n w my hippie hair (that's a whole nuther story) and i get a vehicle she werent embarrassed by. She was a car gal - drove Zs her whole adult life and would literally hit me w metallic objects if i rode the clutch on her car.

I traded the van for a Rockford car, which is how much i know. She would get in it, but i would not get the ultimate car experience "in that thing" (and, as a teen runaway prostitute for several years, she gave nonpareil UCEs). Fortunately, i won my 150-1 Kentucky Derby future bet when Spend a Buck stole the Roses that spring and suddenly i had 15K to play with. Bought a small mountain from Peru and then saw a newspaper ad for a cherry '75 Eldo as part of an estate sale. It was under a tarpaulin when the late owner's son showed it to me and, unveiled, it was soooo cool that i almost felt i had to steal it from him @ gunpoint to be worthy of it.

While she was more a sports car type, Scary Mary loved Big Red and loved me in it. Though i was proud that it had one of the first original-equipment cassette decks made, it werent enough fidelity for her though. On weekends we had off, we would regularly take Sunday picnic drives by piling provisions and her 4-ft boombox into the back seat, blasting Husker Du, Bauhaus, Sonic Youth & the like @ 11 and tailgating Reno's terrorized tourists to places we werent even going. Returning home, she would change into her ol' mud-wrestling berkini (pretty much three 2-inch triangles) and soap up Big Red for a nice, dirty cleaning. Now, the Eldo may be the largest passenger car ever built, but Mary could cross from one side of that giant hood to the other with a single buttroll-legwhip. While neighbor ladies were calling in their children, neighbor dads were setting up lounge chairs to watch. After her show, she'd run inside so we could scare away the sun with various jungle noises.

Scary Mary died the spring before Traveling Without Moving came out. As any widower will tell you, the hellish part is all the things one does alone that they used to do with their beloved. I couldnt listen to my cassettes, i shonuff couldnt listen to her CDs, it wasn't long before i just couldnt drive Big Red, or live in Reno at all, without falling apart all the time. TWM was one of my last attempts at trying to. nufced

 
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That story started off so well, and then ended so sadly. Sorry if I brought back some painful feelings with my last selection W.

 
Now listen to Travelling Without Moving while imagining 30-yrs-ago wikkid cruising Reno in that with a 6ft suicide blonde w razor cuts & Cellophane streaks in her platinum strands air-bassing to Kim Gordon and swearing at tourists.
:lmao:

Would love to hear some choice epithets.

 
Traveling Without Moving:  I consider the last three picks as jams rather than songs.  They're constructed around a beat more than a typical verse/chorus/bridge structure.  There's nothing wrong with that but it's tough do a formalist breakdown when it's mostly vamping, especially when it's an album cut from a band that was never very popular in this country.  They must have been huge elsewhere because JK has an incredible collection of vintage Ferraris.  It's enough to make you want to wear a stupid hat and dance on a moving sidewalk.
What's that? You say you want more references to Jamiroquai awesomeness?

Check out these fine diddies that are 5 star songs for me but didn't quite make the 50 cutoff:

Planet Home (1999)

Canned Heat (1999) - you know, the one from Napoleon Dynamite, I think I prefer this live version

Starchild (2005)

Time Won't Wait (2005) - this one was probably the closest to top 50 of these

She's A Fast Persuader (2010) - also really close to top 50

 
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By looking at your songs that didn’t make the cut I think we have a similar taste for the most part but  I’m fascinated by this Jamiroquai love of yours.

Really looking forward to see how this thread plays out ?

 
By looking at your songs that didn’t make the cut I think we have a similar taste for the most part but  I’m fascinated by this Jamiroquai love of yours.

Really looking forward to see how this thread plays out ?
Some times you just gotta embrace your inner euro-w@nker;. :shrug:

But seriously, their rhythm section is so, so nice, and the music written for them grooves so ####### hard that I can't look away. You could probably put Herve Villachaize singing sea shanties over the top and I'd still love it.

 
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Some times you just gotta embrace your inner euro-w@nker;. :shrug:

But seriously, their rhythm section is so, so nice, and the music written for them grooves so ####### hard that I can't look away. You could probably put Herve Villachaize singing sea shanties over the top and I'd still love it.
Nick Nack would be an upgrade over JK

 
"The sooner we begin the longer we've got to groove"

45: Boogie Oogie Oogie, A Taste Of Honey, 1978

Getting you prepped for you Saturday night happenings, I dare you to listen to this song and not be put in a good frame of mind. The two ladies up front are what elevates this song above just about almost all other disco fare. Hazel Pane plays the guitar (and a quite tasty guitar it is) and sings back up vocals. Janice-Marie Johnson is front and center on lead vocals and bass. And this is an all time bass line here. This song spent 3 weeks at #1 and has been pretty much synonymous with the band (or the other way around) ever since.

The band/label has put out a zillion variations of this song, the link above is for the original radio edit. I don't envy @Eephus the task of choosing covers and samples for this one - there are plenty. Anyway here's a full edit (about two minutes longer). Here's a live version from about 1978. Here's a live version from about 2001. I believe Janice-Marie Johnson is still out there touring to this day on the back of this tune, and she's still got it.

That 2001 clip is relevant to me in particular. I got my grad degree in the summer of 2000, and some friends and I decided to hit vegas to celebrate. Just out of grad school meant I was low rent, so we stayed downtown. I don't know how many of you have spent time in downtown Vegas, but its a very different experience from the strip, one that we actually enjoyed in our 20's and early 30's. It's a totally different mix of people, it's totally casual, everything is close together, everything is cheap.

Anyway, I was on about my 3rd football full of beer when we decided to wander around Freemont blvd after watching the Lakers get crushed by the Pacers in game 5 of the NBA Finals. They had been setting up a concert stage throughout the day. As we approach the stage, the band is just warming up. I didn't recognize them, but it looked to be some kind of R&B act - which isn't exactly the band to match the "Freemont Experience" demographic. We got to the front, which wasn't hard since there were maybe 20 other people paying attention to this, and as we get there, they jump into this song. Turns out it was A Taste Of Honey.

I think I spent the next hour and a half up there, my friends shuttling me additional footballs of beer as I emptied the last, and I think Janice-Marie Johnson and company played this song 78 times. I really can't remember them playing any other songs. I'm sure they must have, but I know they played this song to completion and then started right back in on it again multiple, multiple times. By the end of it, I think I was the only one left there paying any attention to them. And I'd "dance" maniacally and cheer them on every, single, time. Maybe that's what cleared the rest of the "crowd" off now that I think of it. Well, anyway, it was a near perfect moment in my life. Still brings a smile to my face.

Allright everyone, get down, boogie oogie oogie this fine Saturday.
This song has aged well.  Hated it that summer, when I was 13 and crossed its path three times a day.

 
What's that? You say you want more references to Jamiroquai awesomeness?

Check out these fine diddies that are 5 star songs for me but didn't quite make the 50 cutoff:

Planet Home (1999)

Canned Heat (1999) - you know, the one from Napoleon Dynamite, I think I prefer this live version

Starchild (2005)

Time Won't Wait (2005) - this one was probably the closest to top 50 of these

She's A Fast Persuader (2010) - also really close to top 50
I knew something was not right with the string "Canned Heat (1999)."

 
"Three's not a crowd to her, she said."

42: Super Freak, Rick James, 1981

According to this ebony magazine article, James "wanted to have something on the album "White folks could dance to." " Well, mission accomplished. There's too much to talk about with this song (and artist) to know where to start. Rick James having his uncle's band (the Temptations) sing backup on the song, this track being a last minute semi-joke throw in on the already completed Street Songs album, the video MTV wouldn't play, M.C. hammer stealing the bass riff and then settling out of court to give James a writing credit after James sued him - which then granted James his only grammy award when "You Can't Touch This" won best R&B song in 1991, the Little Miss Sunshine scene, the Chapelle Show skits, the list goes on. This is a huge song. And, once again, it really is all about James's bass track, along with a few other interesting choices - the semi-operatic backing vocals, the experimental sounds he got out of the synths, the iconic sax solo, and of course the subject material itself.

I think I actually prefer the 12 inch version to the radio edit, but I can understand how some people wouldn't really want to sit through its somewhat repetitive nature when not dancing in a club.

 
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"Three's not a crowd to her, she said."

42: Super Freak, Rick James, 1981

According to this ebony magazine article, James "wanted to have something on the album "White folks could dance to." " Well, mission accomplished. There's too much to talk about with this song (and artist) to know where to start. Rick James having his uncle's band (the Temptations) sing backup on the song, this track being a last minute semi-joke throw in on the already completed Street Songs album, the video MTV wouldn't play, M.C. hammer stealing the bass riff and then settling out of court to give James a writing credit after James sued him - which then granted James his only grammy award when "You Can't Touch This" won best R&B song in 1991, the Little Miss Sunshine scene, the Chapelle Show skits, the list goes on. This is a huge song. And, once again, it really is all about James's bass track, along with a few other interesting choices - the semi-operatic backing vocals, the experimental sounds he got out of the synths, the iconic sax solo, and of course the subject material itself.

I think I actually prefer the 12 inch version to the radio edit, but I can understand how some people wouldn't really want to sit through its somewhat repetitive nature when not dancing in a club.
Well, i really wanted to go smaller & more about the music today, but you done gone and posted THE (next to Zappa's Mudshark anyway) definitive groupie song and i had the very weird fortune to spike a couple hunnerd a those in my years on the rock & roll road. Thing is, i've tried to mine this subject several times, storywise, and have come up fairly empty.

The experience was basically two kinds of the same. The first was that, as A&R guy/pharmacist/mgmt liason i had very few duties on the road but to make sure everyone was happy and nobody (drummers) got arrested - rock & roll was still pretty illegal then - or got us sued. So i'd help the players & roadies birddog. If a band member would signal there was someone he wanted invited back, i would go out to the sound board, cup a headphone over my ear and point at stuff & bark out orders to establish my currency. This would result in instant entourage, with which i'd stroll to the designated aisle, wave the the girl(s) over and pass them. As the pimp, i had dibs on leftovers & interesting entouragers. Somewhere in the theater, somewhere in the dressing rooms, back to the hotel, restroom sinks - i was 19-20yo in a position to do what i pleased so i can pretty confidently state that i learned very little about the art of love in these experiences. The most memorable part was actually the 2nd kind, the worst kind.

Because i worked for mostly female artists, i'd end up with a lot of sweet & pretty college girls who wanted to consecrate the experience of going to see Bonnie or the others by screwing someone associated with her. These were the girls who one knew better than to invite back to your room but who were also disinclined toward public, fugitive sex so it was tricky. But they were irresistible to me because i didn't go to college and these were the college 8s, 9s and 10s who my singer appealed to because their college, trustfund bfs frustrated them. So, i got a lot of criers, bathroom doorlockers & screamyheaded freaks along with the excellent treatment for my faithful avenger.

Even the male acts i worked with didn't get a lot of pros. No Patti D'Arbanvilles, no PlasterCasters, no Bebe Buells (Liv Tyler's mom, whom i met several times at parties & functions and who overawed me because, not only was she incredibly beautiful, but she seemed to physically transform from babydoll to superfreak to Mary Poppins depending upon whom she was interacting with). But when i toured with Orleans, they had a fairly legendary campfollower who the boys set me up with as kind of a joke.

I wish i could remember more about it, but i came out of it too mistressed & distressed to feel masterly about the memory - she called herself Raven (and this was a time before anyone used stripper names), word had it that she was a poetry professor at one of the State Univs of New York (SUNY) and did the whole black costume/makeup thing in order not to blow her cover with her students. A beautiful and talented gal who was entirely unimpressed by what i could offer physically, so she pretty much twisted my bidness every witch way and chided me with poetry til she got tired of my presence. She was................a Super Freak, and now she's the kind of girl you read about. nufced.

 
awww, maaaan - i dunno if it's because old-time super-expensive heroin was prevalent in those days and drummers were twice as likely to be junkies as all other instruments combined, but me and my bodyguard were constantly hunting em down in the worst part of town, bailing em out and generally preventing them from totally jacking up shows. maaaan, i tellya....

 
watched a doc about stevie nicks last night (the wife's a fan) and was surprised to learn they recorded Rumors in my hometown at the notorious record plant. was just checking today to see who else recorded there... yep- I'M RICK JAMES #####- recorded superfreak there. he also did a lot of cocaine. and apparently sorta lived there for a bit (one of the confererence rooms had a waterbed-floor), walking around in a towel through other recording sessions and dropping it "accidentally" when the ladies were around. I'M RICK JAMES #####.

fun song.

 
watched a doc about stevie nicks last night (the wife's a fan) and was surprised to learn they recorded Rumors in my hometown at the notorious record plant. was just checking today to see who else recorded there... yep- I'M RICK JAMES #####- recorded superfreak there. he also did a lot of cocaine. and apparently sorta lived there for a bit (one of the confererence rooms had a waterbed-floor), walking around in a towel through other recording sessions and dropping it "accidentally" when the ladies were around. I'M RICK JAMES #####.

fun song.
:lol:

Forget Queen - I want the Rick James biopic on the big screen in all its sordid detail.

 
:lol:

Forget Queen - I want the Rick James biopic on the big screen in all its sordid detail.
he was there when Sly was still recording, and apparently Prince recorded his first album there too around the same time. somebody described a first meeting between the three as being pretty momentous.

my school was around the corner for a bit- used to ride my bike by there daily. had no idea what was going on behind those doors.

 

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