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Greatest Teams to Not Make the Super Bowl (1 Viewer)
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Phurfur
Footballguy
Great teams don't miss the Super Bowl, that is what makes them great.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
worst response EVER
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
'86 Bears
14-2 regular season. Actually gave us less points over the 16 game season than the '85 team.
14-2 regular season. Actually gave us less points over the 16 game season than the '85 team.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
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Neil Beaufort Zod
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I was going to say the Vikings and Chargers teams. Already done; good job. I had forgotten about the '86 Bears team, too. Don't recall their season well enough to agree or not.
Dentist
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who did they lose to in the playoffs, what happened? Giants?
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
I'm NOT a Patriots fan. I'm a fan of the best team winning.I ABHOR the Patriots 2001 team - that Super Bowl infuriated me more than any one until last season's.and although not born at the time, i'm still pretty hacked about '68 too
amnesiac
beer is good
yeah, that's making my head hurt.
pats3in4
Footballguy
1986 Seahawks.
Didn't even make the playoffs thanks to a horrible lull in the middle of the season, but they were dominant down the stretch. They were one of two teams to drop an 'L' on the champion Giants that year. Sports Illustrated put them in the Super Bowl in their next season preview issue.
Didn't even make the playoffs thanks to a horrible lull in the middle of the season, but they were dominant down the stretch. They were one of two teams to drop an 'L' on the champion Giants that year. Sports Illustrated put them in the Super Bowl in their next season preview issue.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
I'm thinking there are some 49ers teams - maybe '93 or '95 that were just damn good but ran into the Cowboys, but still would've won the super bowl easily.
and for that matter the '94 cowboys would also likely have won the super bowl if not for the niners.
I'm sure there have been a lot more conference championship games that were really the super bowl in disguise that had some great teams.
and for that matter the '94 cowboys would also likely have won the super bowl if not for the niners.
I'm sure there have been a lot more conference championship games that were really the super bowl in disguise that had some great teams.
Sweet Love
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I think that 84-85 Dolphins team that lost to the Pats and therefor did not get to the Super Bowl was ppretty good. IIRC, they were the only team to beat the Bears that year and were expected to roll to the SB for a very anticipated rematch. Unfortunately they lost in the AFC Championship game and the Patriots suited up (and that is about it) for the big game.
pats3in4
Footballguy
Jay Schroeder shredded Chicago's average CBs. Jeff Jacoby had one arm in a cast and used it to club Richard Dent into submission. Flutie threw a couple of picks and Payton fumbled late to quell any possible comeback.Edit: The Giants fans were dying for Chicago to come to the Meadowlands for the NFCCG as Chicago had drilled them 21-0 in the playoffs the year prior. After demolishing SF in the divisional round, the NY fans chanted "We want the Bears". Unfortunately, Chicago laid an egg vs. Washington and denied the nation a 14-2 vs. 14-2 matchup with the defending champion to boot.
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Dentist
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DEFINITELY.. I can't believe I forgot about that Dolphins team.. that was a gross beat and denied us of a great super bowl.a Bears vs. Dolphins re-match wouldn't have been as disgusting.Easily one of the top super bowls we missed out on as a nation.. right up there with '98 vikings vs. Broncos
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
1977 Baltimore Colts lost to Oakland Raiders in the playoffs in the 3rd longest game in NFL History. Stabler to Casper on the famous "Ghost to the Post" play.
Bert Jones, Roger Carr, Glenn Doughty, Lydell Mitchell, and the Sack Pack. What a team !!
Bert Jones, Roger Carr, Glenn Doughty, Lydell Mitchell, and the Sack Pack. What a team !!
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pats3in4
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That Dolphins team was fatally flawed by its horrendous run defense. Cleveland gave them a scare in the divisional round by running all over them and the Pats ran for over 250yds in the AFCCG with no long gainers to skew the total. Chicago would have learned from its MNF matchup and probably dispatched Miami with ease, although not as much ease as they did vs. Tony "The Turtle" Eason's Pats.
The Jerk
Footballguy
For a serious reply... most in the Steeler organization consider the 1976 team to be their greatest, at least on defense, but they did not win the championship.
1976 Steelers were only 10-4, but started 1-4 and lost Bradshaw. They won their final nine games just to make the playoffs, by a cumulative 234-28. Defense held eight of the nine teams without TDs, including five shutouts. Annihilated the Colts in Baltimore 40-14 and gained 524 yards in the game. However, both Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier were lost to injuries.
Oakland defeated the Steelers in the AFC championship 24-7. Give the Raiders credit, as they were 16-1 that season and they beat the Steelers again to kick off the 1977 season. At the very least, this was the Super Bowl in the conference championship scenario, arguably for the fifth consecutive season in the AFCC.
The Raiders will argue that their 1974 team is worthy of this discussion. 12-2 regular season with the two losses by a combined four points. Defeat two-time defending champion Dolphins in the "Sea of Hands" game. Lead the Steelers 10-3 entering the fourth quarter of the AFCC at home.
1976 Steelers were only 10-4, but started 1-4 and lost Bradshaw. They won their final nine games just to make the playoffs, by a cumulative 234-28. Defense held eight of the nine teams without TDs, including five shutouts. Annihilated the Colts in Baltimore 40-14 and gained 524 yards in the game. However, both Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier were lost to injuries.
Oakland defeated the Steelers in the AFC championship 24-7. Give the Raiders credit, as they were 16-1 that season and they beat the Steelers again to kick off the 1977 season. At the very least, this was the Super Bowl in the conference championship scenario, arguably for the fifth consecutive season in the AFCC.
The Raiders will argue that their 1974 team is worthy of this discussion. 12-2 regular season with the two losses by a combined four points. Defeat two-time defending champion Dolphins in the "Sea of Hands" game. Lead the Steelers 10-3 entering the fourth quarter of the AFCC at home.
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Gatorman
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pats3in4
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'94 Cowboys: definitely. Even Sports Illustrated had billed their game vs. SF as "The Real Super Bowl" on the cover the week prior. They got down 21-0 five minutes into that NFCCG and still made a game of it. If they didn't have such a lousy start, that outcome could have been very different.I think the '92 49ers were probably the best of their '90s teams that fell short. They were 14-2, had MVP Steve Young and were pissed as hell at missing out of the playoffs the year prior. They just ran into a Cowboys defense that could keep them in check...and couldn't stop Alvin Harper to save their lives. Harper was a 49ers assassin and he, not Michael Irvin, was the main reason the 49ers fetched Deion Sanders in '94.
Edit: Forgot to give some love to the '90 49ers team going for the 3-peat. If Roger Craig doesn't fumble late in the NFCCG, the 49ers were more than likely playing the Bills, although it's questionable how they would have done if Montana was either woozy or couldn't play.
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The Man with the Plan
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2005 Indianapolis Colts
If Nick Harper's wife doesn't stab him the night before their divisional playoff game the Colts would have won the Super Bowl.
If Nick Harper's wife doesn't stab him the night before their divisional playoff game the Colts would have won the Super Bowl.
1990 49ers-- Going for a 3rd SuperBowl in a row-- had the lead against a great Giants team in 4th quarter in NFC Championship- Montana is basicaly running the clock out- gets his hand "purposely" broken by Giants defender- Steve Young comes in- he and Craig botch the handoff, NY recovers- drives it down and wins the game on a FG... That 49ers team was real close to a 3peat..
Brother Mouzone
Footballguy
'04 Jets led by Curtis Martin. Missed 2 BIG makable field goals that would have beaten the Steelers. Not sure they could have beaten the Pats though...
rock753
Footballguy
5Rings
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87 49ers is my pick. Dominated the regular season but got upset by the Vikes#1 in offense and defense and point differential. 13-2 regular season. The single most dominant season ever by a WR (imo), Jerry Rice's 23 TDs in 12 games.
The 94 Cowboys would have won the Super Bowl if Jerry Jones wasn't such an ###. That decision could have easily been the reason why we may never ever see a team win 3 or in that case 4 straight Super Bowls. Those Cowboys had an amazing collection of talent and coaching.The funny thing is that the transition from Jimmy Johnson to Switzer, who still won a SB because of Johnson's team, is a textbook example of a good college coach making a successful transition to the NFL and a good college coach making a not so good transition. I know, I know Switzer won a SB, but I was a huge fan of the Cowboys back then and Switzer got lucky to inherit a two time SB winner that was in its prime.
Captain Spaulding
Footballguy
2004 Steelers/Rothlisberger's 1st season. They went 15-1 reg. season (w/ 16 game win streak including a playoff win) and beat both the Pats (Superbowl champs) and Eagles (Superbowl loser) during the middle of the regular season. Steelers just peaked at the wrong time (similiar to Giants/Titans this year), and got in a funk late in the season....barely squeaked by the Jets in divisional round then got handled fairly easily by the Pats in the championship game.
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Adebisi
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Thank god the Dolphins lost though. Had they advanced to the Super Bowl and defeated Chicago, you, me, and Boomer Esiason wouldn't have Dan Marino to kick around.
Dentist
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I don't think the Dolphins would've beaten Chicago a 2nd time that season.That being said, if they had I think there would be little argument he was a top 2-3 QB ever
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
87 49ers is my pick. Dominated the regular season but got upset by the Vikes
#1 in offense and defense and point differential. 13-2 regular season. The single most dominant season ever by a WR (imo), Jerry Rice's 23 TDs in 12 games.
The Vikings were the worst team to make the playoffs in the nfc, but they were on fire their first 2 games in huge upsets at NO and SF. IIRC, Anthony Carter had a ridiculous game against SF and somehow the Vikings managed to hold Rice to like 2 catches for 20 yards. This allowed Washington to host Minny in the NFCCG.As a Redskins fan, I absolutely dreaded playing SF that year in the postseason. I knew the Skins were better than the Bears (whom they beat on the road in the divsional round), but there was no way they were going to beat SF. Thank god for AC and the Vikings!
CrossEyed
Footballguy
One of the all-time great defensive performances.
The Jerk
Footballguy
15 game win streak (Started 1-1)Beat the Patriots by 14 and the Eagles by 24. The games weren't even close. But Ben tailed off down the stretch and the Patriots were the class of the league that season.
That was the 1st team I though of. They also missed John Stallworth for most of that season and Swann missed some time too.I might be slightly biased as I believe those 70's Steelers teams were by far the best in NFL history.
heidbrink
Footballguy
1994 KC Chiefs. Add Joe Montana and Marcus Allen to an already prolific D! The Chiefs replaced Arrowhead's astroturf with natural grass for big Joe "he needs no knickname" Montana. How is that for clout?!?
In the home opener, Montana's KC Chiefs defeats Steve Young's SF 49rs. Oh the drama! They get all the way to the AFC divisional championship, defeating the heavily favored Oilers, who were on an 11 game win streak...Only to be bested by the Bills who claim their 4th in a row AFC Title. The Bills of course go on to lose the SB for the 4th time in a row.
Daaaaaaaaaaang!
In the home opener, Montana's KC Chiefs defeats Steve Young's SF 49rs. Oh the drama! They get all the way to the AFC divisional championship, defeating the heavily favored Oilers, who were on an 11 game win streak...Only to be bested by the Bills who claim their 4th in a row AFC Title. The Bills of course go on to lose the SB for the 4th time in a row.
Daaaaaaaaaaang!
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A
awesomeness
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To be honest i'm surprised you didn't kill yourself during the 2006 March Madness.
The Jerk
Footballguy
The 1994 Chiefs hosted the 49ers in the home opener, but the team that defeated the streaking Oilers and lost at Buffalo in the AFCC was the 1993 Chiefs.
Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
That Colts team didn't lose a meaningful game all year until this crazy ending that featured 1) One of the slowest QB's in the league making an open field game-saving tackle and 2) the most accurate kicker in NFL history shanking a potential game-tying FG 20 yards to the right.
Gatorman
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I disagree. Miami's team was built to beat the bears. Stephenson at center and Marino's release negated the Bear pass rush, so the 46 was not as effective.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
'96 Broncos. 1st in the NFL in total offense and 4th in the NFL in total defense, they romped their way to a 12-1 record, but that was sorta this kiss of death, as they clinched home field in the AFC too quickly, lost two of their last three meaningless games, and then were upset by the Jags 30-27 in the divisional round (a game that still makes me sick). Many remember '96 as featuring a great Packers team that won it all, but for much of the season, they were not the best team; the Broncos were. They just peaked too early, and then clinched too early.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Dude, the playoffs occurred in 1994, but it is almost universally accepted to refer to the regular season when identifying the team. In other words, when referring to the past three Super Bowl champions, it is the 2005 Steelers, 2006 Colts and 2007 Giants. This year's champion will be the 2008 Steelers or the 2008 Cardinals (not 2009). You can also refer to a team as the 1993-94 Chiefs, which shows both the regular season (93) and playoffs (94) chronologically.Here's two links:
1993 Chiefs (11-5) lost in AFC championship
1994 Chiefs (9-7) lost in AFC wild card
The reason I know that the 1994 Chiefs were not the team you identified was because the 1994 (season) AFC championship was played in Pittsburgh, won by San Diego, 17-13.
The Jerk
Footballguy
There is another reason why teams are still referred to in terms of the year of the regular season. It's been a long time now, but the championship (final) game was actually held in December for the first few decades of the NFL. I believe the 1965 season (last non-Super Bowl year) was the first time the championship was held in January.
Not the greatest to never make the Superbowl, but I think the Bernie Kosar led 1986 and 1987 Cleveland Browns at least deserve an honorable mention. As a long time Bronco fan, I can only imagine what it was like to be a Browns backer in those back to back AFC championship games. I'm sure the Browns would have fared better than my Donkeys against the Giants and Redskins in those 2 Superbowls. Heck, they couldn't have done much worse. I guess I gotta throw the 1989 Browns in there too, since they also lost to Denver in the championship game.
audiophile
Footballguy
And to add insult to injury......this was a home game for the Dolphins.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
That team was JUNK. I live in KC, they were fraud's... that team wasn't in the top 20 of best teams not to win a super bowl.when a friggin' washed up marcus allen and joe montana are your front-runners. it's sick.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I'm with you, Dentist.I remember the first playoff game they played that year, wild card vs. the Steelers. The Steelers controlled most of the game and had a 7-point lead late. KC blocked a punt and scored to force OT. That was a 9-7 Steelers team that outplayed them in KC.Oh, and the 30-13 loss in Buffalo doesn't sound like a real close one.
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