Greene vs LT (1 Viewer)

[Gopher State]

LT is looking better with each game. I can see him getting 40 to 45 percent of the touches. He still has a lot left in the tank.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

LT is looking better with each game. I can see him getting 40 to 45 percent of the touches. He still has a lot left in the tank.

I could see him getting 40% of the touches but that would be heavily weighted in Rec, Greene has a pretty consistent YPC and he can be counted on for grinding out yardage and picking up tough yards. He'll be used to wear down defenses. Greene will certainly get more carries.. I'd be very surprised if they split carries 45/55, or even 40/60...

 

[Multiple Scores]

are his legs still shot? Don't look back, look forward and assess the situation as it is. LT is being drafted below his floor.

You must be enjoying this. If I were you I'd be too, looking great the legend has. I'm sticking to my guns that his legs are shot. I fully understand you pulling this up and asking if his legs are shot and I'd do it after each good game. I'll be here all year and bump his bad games and I have a feeling you'll get sick of my bumps and soon concede his legs are shot. In the meanwhile enjoy the present games.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I can't see LT as the primary ball carrier here but he's certainly going to get a fair share in that running game. Maybe 30% of the carries.. And he'll certainly end the season with more rec then Greene.

He won't be the primary ball carrier but he doesn't need to be where he's being drafted. He'll get carries, he's a great insurance policy, he'll get some red zone touches and he'll get nearly all the 3rd down action and receptions (which the Jets want to do more of this year).

Edited to add: I think there is room for both to do well and have their moments. LT is simply a better bargain in the 9th. Greene went in the 1st in one of my redrafts.

 

[ImTheScientist]

are his legs still shot? Don't look back, look forward and assess the situation as it is. LT is being drafted below his floor.

You must be enjoying this. If I were you I'd be too, looking great the legend has. I'm sticking to my guns that his legs are shot. I fully understand you pulling this up and asking if his legs are shot and I'd do it after each good game. I'll be here all year and bump his bad games and I have a feeling you'll get sick of my bumps and soon concede his legs are shot. In the meanwhile enjoy the present games.

Cool story bro.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

 

[Banger]

are his legs still shot? Don't look back, look forward and assess the situation as it is. LT is being drafted below his floor.

You must be enjoying this. If I were you I'd be too, looking great the legend has. I'm sticking to my guns that his legs are shot. I fully understand you pulling this up and asking if his legs are shot and I'd do it after each good game. I'll be here all year and bump his bad games and I have a feeling you'll get sick of my bumps and soon concede his legs are shot. In the meanwhile enjoy the present games.

just having some fun. My point is though that you need to evaluate every situation as it changes. I was skeptical after watching LT last season as he was horrible but this is a new season with maybe the best line in football on great running offense. Camp reports have him looking good and now he's looking good in games. One thing I've learned playing this game for a while is not to become emotionally attached to a position. You make your projections and gather evidence and alter them accordingly. e

 

[Tom Baker]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

 

[jude]

LT still sucks. But this preseason must be enjoyable to the guys who got him 10th or later.

i traded shonn greene last week.

 

[Multiple Scores]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

Time will tell and once games actually matter we'll see.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

You guys do realize this is the guy who rushed for 3.3 yards per carry last year and is one year older.

 

[Banger]

You guys do realize this is the guy who rushed for 3.3 yards per carry last year and is one year older.

certainly do. Why don't you watch him this year on his new team with a great line? Look forward, not back. In two games on limited carries he's busted 20 and 46 yard runs. He's not LT of a few years ago and no one is claiming he will be but he's being drafted around Chester Taylor and T. Jones at RB40+.

 

[lazyike]

I can't see LT as the primary ball carrier here but he's certainly going to get a fair share in that running game. Maybe 30% of the carries.. And he'll certainly end the season with more rec then Greene.

He won't be the primary ball carrier but he doesn't need to be where he's being drafted. He'll get carries, he's a great insurance policy, he'll get some red zone touches and he'll get nearly all the 3rd down action and receptions (which the Jets want to do more of this year).

Edited to add: I think there is room for both to do well and have their moments. LT is simply a better bargain in the 9th. Greene went in the 1st in one of my redrafts.

Agreed. Greene went in the second in our 12 team PPR and I was able to grab LT in the 10th round as my RB4.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

In most leagues, with 40% of the Jets' RB touches he'll likely be on your fantasy bench.LT is a steal because of his potential if Greene gets hurt — not because he may get 40% of the touches if Greene stays healthy.

 

[Manster]

You guys do realize this is the guy who rushed for 3.3 yards per carry last year and is one year older.

yea, and he looks healthy and quick. he may very well run outta gas with this seasons' wear and tear. but think about it this way, you can get him cheap, and he should be used at a pace he can withstand. injury to Greene and his value goes through the roof.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

He did look good on that run, but the line did open up an enormous hole there. Should be interesting to see how he does once the season starts.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

He did look good on that run, but the line did open up an enormous hole there. Should be interesting to see how he does once the season starts.

LT has always been better when he got to the + side of scrimmage. He's never really been the guy who made his own holes...

 

[jimmy b]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

In most leagues, with 40% of the Jets' RB touches he'll likely be on your fantasy bench.LT is a steal because of his potential if Greene gets hurt — not because he may get 40% of the touches if Greene stays healthy.

I never understood this mentality, doesn't this logic pretty much go for all back-ups.

Please expound on this

TIA

 

[Tom Baker]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

In most leagues, with 40% of the Jets' RB touches he'll likely be on your fantasy bench.LT is a steal because of his potential if Greene gets hurt — not because he may get 40% of the touches if Greene stays healthy.

I never understood this mentality, doesn't this logic pretty much go for all back-ups.

Please expound on this

TIA

Most back-ups don't also happen to be one of the greatest running backs of all time. Does that help?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

In most leagues, with 40% of the Jets' RB touches he'll likely be on your fantasy bench.LT is a steal because of his potential if Greene gets hurt — not because he may get 40% of the touches if Greene stays healthy.

I never understood this mentality, doesn't this logic pretty much go for all back-ups.

Please expound on this

TIA

A lot of backups won't be running behind the Jets' offensive line. And a lot of them are not very talented. Also, a lot of backups have more durable starters in front of them. And in many cases, if the starter gets hurt a committee will take over, rather than a single, primary backup.All things considered, LT is one of the better backups to own this year.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Even at a 40/60 split LT will be a steal in the round he is being taken in.

In most leagues, with 40% of the Jets' RB touches he'll likely be on your fantasy bench.LT is a steal because of his potential if Greene gets hurt — not because he may get 40% of the touches if Greene stays healthy.

I never understood this mentality, doesn't this logic pretty much go for all back-ups.

Please expound on this

TIA

Most back-ups don't also happen to be one of the greatest running backs of all time. Does that help?

The O-Line he's now behind, and on a run first team... And his abilities... makes him one of the best backups to own..

 

[Ghost Rider]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

He did look good on that run, but the line did open up an enormous hole there. Should be interesting to see how he does once the season starts.

LT has always been better when he got to the + side of scrimmage. He's never really been the guy who made his own holes...

I don't know about that one. I seem to remember SD not having a very good line his first few years in the league, yet he was putting up monster numbers. You don't put up monster numbers behind an average or below average line by not being able to make your own holes.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The reports of LT's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...son-43-yard-run

He did look good on that run, but the line did open up an enormous hole there. Should be interesting to see how he does once the season starts.

LT has always been better when he got to the + side of scrimmage. He's never really been the guy who made his own holes...

I don't know about that one. I seem to remember SD not having a very good line his first few years in the league, yet he was putting up monster numbers. You don't put up monster numbers behind an average or below average line by not being able to make your own holes.

His ability has always been to find the holes, and make sick jump cuts... on top of being very quick/fast...

He's never been the plow type....

And I don't remember SD having a sub-par line back then

 

[cr8f]

Pre season. Who were the stars of it last year and how did they finish?

It really doesn't represent what happens in the regular season well at all.

 

[Sabertooth]

Pre season. Who were the stars of it last year and how did they finish?It really doesn't represent what happens in the regular season well at all.

He was RB21 last season. His situation is better. I guess I don't really see the downside where you can get him. He's old, sure and everyone likes the hot young thang. But he's the kind of war horse that wins you games at his ADP.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Pre season. Who were the stars of it last year and how did they finish?It really doesn't represent what happens in the regular season well at all.

He was RB21 last season. His situation is better. I guess I don't really see the downside where you can get him. He's old, sure and everyone likes the hot young thang. But he's the kind of war horse that wins you games at his ADP.

Last year he was something like RB12 from week six on after he got over the ankle injury.But his situation was definitely better last season. He was the starter.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Pre season. Who were the stars of it last year and how did they finish?It really doesn't represent what happens in the regular season well at all.

He was RB21 last season. His situation is better. I guess I don't really see the downside where you can get him. He's old, sure and everyone likes the hot young thang. But he's the kind of war horse that wins you games at his ADP.

Last year he was something like RB12 from week six on after he got over the ankle injury.But his situation was definitely better last season. He was the starter.

I think he meant the situation is better overall for RB's in the Jets offense, obviously he's not going to get250 carries unless Greene goes down, but at his ADP, you don't need him to

 

[Sabertooth]

Pre season. Who were the stars of it last year and how did they finish?It really doesn't represent what happens in the regular season well at all.

He was RB21 last season. His situation is better. I guess I don't really see the downside where you can get him. He's old, sure and everyone likes the hot young thang. But he's the kind of war horse that wins you games at his ADP.

Last year he was something like RB12 from week six on after he got over the ankle injury.But his situation was definitely better last season. He was the starter.

I think he meant the situation is better overall for RB's in the Jets offense, obviously he's not going to get250 carries unless Greene goes down, but at his ADP, you don't need him to

This. Also I think he probably gets 175 carries even if Green is healthy. And he'll be used at the stripe and probably catch more passes than last season. And he's cheap.

 

[Ghost Rider]

And I don't remember SD having a sub-par line back then

I do. The popular train of thought was, how sick will his numbers be if he ever gets an above average line? His record-setting season answered that question.