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Sure, there is. It's a tougher problem than assault weapons, though. Because I understand where the big problems are doesn't mean I have a politically soluble game plan for fixing or ameliorating it. I'm sure others do.
Yes, it's an intentional conspiracy.
WhereTF was the FBI when somebody saw something (posts about becoming a professional school shooter) and somebody said something to them? Fix that problem. Surely somebody can do something about that today rather than the bang your head against gun control that may never happen.
WhereTF was the NRA...oh right... in every bodies pockets....Surely somebody can do something about that today rather than the bang your head and wait for another massacre that will happen.
Whose the somebody you're talking about that can do something immediately about the NRA? I'm just asking the FBI to do their job.
Charlton Heston? I dont give a ####. Plenty of $$ going around to prevent regulation/ control. But why stop at FBI? lets blame the dead kids like Trump did -- they didnt do their job either apparently.
It's not the NRA's fault that the FBI didn't properly act on the reports. You seem to be mixing up two different issues. Badly.
You're asking the devil to do something righteous. That's what I meant by banging your head against a wall.
If you don't see my point, not worth arguing, Seems the kids getting shot at will get this straight and I doubt they are blaming the FBI solely for this --
How many times are people going to be allowed to repeat the bolded without it being challenged? There was nothing the FBI could have done. Local law enforcement was already aware of Cruz, they visited him 39 times. They could have arrested him for his social media threats, perhaps, but he would not have been in jail very long. They had no power to seize his guns or to stop him from purchasing more guns. There is nothing that they or the FBI could have done to stop this crime under the current laws of Florida that the NRA helped to set up.
Yes it is. Absolutely.
Good luck., sincerely. Whatever prevented the FBI from doing their job seems like an easier fix though.
It isn't. And once again you can blame the NRA.
GTFOH, he was reported to the FBI for threatening school shootings AND had run ins with the police 39 times? How was this guy not under surveillance?
Don’t mention all the gun-related records that by law cannot be digitized or computerized. Another roadblock built by NRA lobbying money.
No its a major failure of the NRA. They are the ones who have weakened law enforcement deliberately on this issue. Please see my last post.
Study? Sounds like this guy fell in their lap. I'm all for more funding but good grief this is keystone cops bad.
You're still not getting it. Thanks to the NRA, funding has been cut for EVERY aspect of law enforcement when it comes to crazies with guns. Of course they're going to screw up. What do you expect?
Never said that. In fact, I said up above that some of these weapons should move into the Class 3 category.
Sorry no amount of funding issues or gun laws explain why this guy wasn't under surveillance. You are right, they screwed up bad.
More importantly, the NRA and current admin has made sure the guns will be available and in hands of 18 year olds and mentally ill... then let the keystone cops deal with it later
All right, we disagree on that. But let's get to the second part of it. Suppose the FBI did place this guy under surveillance? Then what? They can't seize his guns. They can't keep him from buying new guns. They might be able to arrest him, perhaps, but they could never detain him. What could they reasonably have done?
The argument that the FBI didn't do anything will be brought up again and again and again, just like the banning cars argument, the turning our schools into prisons argument, and the instead of focusing on guns we should be focusing on our social problems that are so big to solve that we don't know how to solve them argument.
Yep. That's the limit of what they could do. Just sit there and look shocked at him.
Focus on guns. Great, I'd vote on an assault rifle ban today. Doesn't mean we can't fix whatever caused law enforcement to miss ALL the warning signs.
They wouldn't stop a guy that is under surveillance from walking onto campus with a gun and a bag full of ammo? After he posted on social media what he planned to do.
These guys are arguing with people that agree with them but cannot look beyond one and only one solution.
I dont find what I posted amusing or nefarious. I'm sure you will expound on this too while I await your other response to my question--
And when they stop him, then what? It's legal to carry an AR15 in public as long as it's visible. He simply waits until he's no longer detained.
