Hacking Cars (1 Viewer)

[TheIronSheik]

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This is pretty crazy. I imagine it's only going to get worse as we go on.

 

[Penguin]

60 minutes did a piece on this a few months ago complete with demonstrations.

 

[joffer]

Impossible. My password has both upper case and lower case letters, a few numbers, and even the # sign.

 

[Penguin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1WsdODxu0

 

[mcintyre1]

Saw a WIRED article about this, my mind immediately shot to Michael Hastings.

Hastings was intensely interested in government surveillance of journalists. In May, the story broke about the Department of Justice obtaining the phone records of Associated Press reporters. A couple weeks later, Edward Snowden's revelations about the National Security Agency's massive surveillance program became public. Hastings was convinced he was a target.


His behavior grew increasingly erratic. Helicopters often circle over the hills, but Hastings believed there were more of them around whenever he was at home, keeping an eye on him. He came to believe his Mercedes was being tampered with. "Nothing I could say could console him," Thigpen says.

One night in June, he came to Thigpen's apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.

"He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she says.

The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.

Given this article, Hastings' past trouble with pissing off the authorities, recent revelations about the FBI's secret surveillance air force, and his claims to friends that he was "onto a big story about the CIA", makes you wonder.

 

[Scoresman]

Cant wait to sit at my computer hacking cars, driving them slow in the fast lane, not using my blinker, and using the windshield cleaner at full speed.

 

[Brony]

I hope they don't hack my cough.

 

[AAABatteries]

I always knew that driving a piece of #### would pay off one day!

 

[Rayderr]

Looking forward to these self driving cars now.

 

[Quez]

I have a quick and easy hack to make your car better. Take a piece of black pipe insulation, and shove it between your seat and the center console. Now your cell phone won't fall in the crack & go below your seat! More time to text and drive.

L33t h8xor I am.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Pretty sure this was the problem with those cars that all of a sudden started accelerating.

 

[Slapdash]

Saw a WIRED article about this, my mind immediately shot to Michael Hastings.

Hastings was intensely interested in government surveillance of journalists. In May, the story broke about the Department of Justice obtaining the phone records of Associated Press reporters. A couple weeks later, Edward Snowden's revelations about the National Security Agency's massive surveillance program became public. Hastings was convinced he was a target.


His behavior grew increasingly erratic. Helicopters often circle over the hills, but Hastings believed there were more of them around whenever he was at home, keeping an eye on him. He came to believe his Mercedes was being tampered with. "Nothing I could say could console him," Thigpen says.

One night in June, he came to Thigpen's apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.

"He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she says.

The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.

Given this article, Hastings' past trouble with pissing off the authorities, recent revelations about the FBI's secret surveillance air force, and his claims to friends that he was "onto a big story about the CIA", makes you wonder.

Hard to put this stuff past a government which believes in constant surveillance and purposefully adds vulnerabilities into software for that end.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Impossible. My password has both upper case and lower case letters, a few numbers, and even the # sign.

Can you post your password here so we can tell you if it's strong or not?

 

[Christo]

Saw a WIRED article about this, my mind immediately shot to Michael Hastings.

Hastings was intensely interested in government surveillance of journalists. In May, the story broke about the Department of Justice obtaining the phone records of Associated Press reporters. A couple weeks later, Edward Snowden's revelations about the National Security Agency's massive surveillance program became public. Hastings was convinced he was a target.


His behavior grew increasingly erratic. Helicopters often circle over the hills, but Hastings believed there were more of them around whenever he was at home, keeping an eye on him. He came to believe his Mercedes was being tampered with. "Nothing I could say could console him," Thigpen says.

One night in June, he came to Thigpen's apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.

"He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she says.

The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.

Given this article, Hastings' past trouble with pissing off the authorities, recent revelations about the FBI's secret surveillance air force, and his claims to friends that he was "onto a big story about the CIA", makes you wonder.

That, or he went nuts.

 

[mcintyre1]

Saw a WIRED article about this, my mind immediately shot to Michael Hastings.

Hastings was intensely interested in government surveillance of journalists. In May, the story broke about the Department of Justice obtaining the phone records of Associated Press reporters. A couple weeks later, Edward Snowden's revelations about the National Security Agency's massive surveillance program became public. Hastings was convinced he was a target.


His behavior grew increasingly erratic. Helicopters often circle over the hills, but Hastings believed there were more of them around whenever he was at home, keeping an eye on him. He came to believe his Mercedes was being tampered with. "Nothing I could say could console him," Thigpen says.

One night in June, he came to Thigpen's apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo. He said he was afraid to drive his own car. She declined, telling him her car was having mechanical problems.

"He was scared, and he wanted to leave town," she says.

The next day, around 11:15 a.m., she got a call from her landlord, who told her Hastings had died early that morning. His car had crashed into a palm tree at 75 mph and exploded in a ball of fire.

Given this article, Hastings' past trouble with pissing off the authorities, recent revelations about the FBI's secret surveillance air force, and his claims to friends that he was "onto a big story about the CIA", makes you wonder.

That, or he went nuts.

Yeah, certainly possible and the most probable. Unfortunately there's basically no way to tell the difference between a legit crazy person & someone who is actually being followed by surveillance (which history shows does definitely happen) because the only people who could prove he's not crazy have zero incentive to do so.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I will hack the cars of cell phone texters and mayhem will ensue.

 

[UOFI_316]

I have a quick and easy hack to make your car better. Take a piece of black pipe insulation, and shove it between your seat and the center console. Now your cell phone won't fall in the crack & go below your seat! More time to text and drive.

L33t h8xor I am.

Or buy this for only $19.99

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Cant wait to sit at my computer hacking cars, driving them slow in the fast lane, not using my blinker, and using the windshield cleaner at full speed.

Don't forget to do all this while texting.

 

[Quez]

I have a quick and easy hack to make your car better. Take a piece of black pipe insulation, and shove it between your seat and the center console. Now your cell phone won't fall in the crack & go below your seat! More time to text and drive.

L33t h8xor I am.

Or buy this for only $19.99

They stole my idea!

 

[Dentist]

Looking forward to these self driving cars now.

This was one of the things about self-driving cars that I really hadn't factored in.. the hacking.

Admittedly this has to get solved.... I still think even with the risk of hacking that self-driving cars will be safer, but it will be horrible news when there is some massive pile-up with dozens of lost lives due to a hack in some major city... and people will call for driver cars again

 

[Ned]

Not surprised they were able to do this with a Chrysler.

 

[dschuler]

Not surprised they were able to do this with a Chrysler.

Depending on the year they would have the same software as Porsche, Audi, VW, BMW, Chevy, Land Rover, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda, Acura, SAAB, Nissan, and many others. Ford recently went back to QNX after unsuccessfully switching to Microsoft a few years back. QNX is easily the most secure and reliable automotive software, which is why almost every major auto company uses it. It is extremely hard to hack and is very durable.

 

[Keerock]

I hope these hackers aren't texting while hack-driving my car

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Looking forward to these self driving cars now.

This was one of the things about self-driving cars that I really hadn't factored in.. the hacking.

Admittedly this has to get solved.... I still think even with the risk of hacking that self-driving cars will be safer, but it will be horrible news when there is some massive pile-up with dozens of lost lives due to a hack in some major city... and people will call for driver cars again

Yep. Driverless cars will save tens of thousands of lives every year but as soon as there is a big wreck the rubes will be out in full force calling for them to be banned.

 

[Maelstrom]

The underlying problem is that the entertainment system and the car systems run on the same bus/network. This should never have happened, but it reduced cost to create it this way. Add Internet to the entertainment system = bad possibilities.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I was on vacation, but it looks like GM issued a recall due to this.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Looking forward to these self driving cars now.

This was one of the things about self-driving cars that I really hadn't factored in.. the hacking.

Admittedly this has to get solved.... I still think even with the risk of hacking that self-driving cars will be safer, but it will be horrible news when there is some massive pile-up with dozens of lost lives due to a hack in some major city... and people will call for driver cars again

Yep. Driverless cars will save tens of thousands of lives every year but as soon as there is a big wreck the rubes will be out in full force calling for them to be banned.

There's a difference between a typical auto crash/accident and a terrorist attack which causes a large loss of life, that being stupidity/ignorance vs malice. The people in the second situation don't even have to chance to be stupid or ignorant, they're just dead...the pawn of some dbag sitting behind a computer. Unless you can guarantee me that the traffic network is locked down like Fort Knox just as well in Bum#### Idaho as it is in DC, I'll stick to my own hands on the wheel.

 

[Rayderr]

Looking forward to these self driving cars now.

This was one of the things about self-driving cars that I really hadn't factored in.. the hacking.

Admittedly this has to get solved.... I still think even with the risk of hacking that self-driving cars will be safer, but it will be horrible news when there is some massive pile-up with dozens of lost lives due to a hack in some major city... and people will call for driver cars again

Yep. Driverless cars will save tens of thousands of lives every year but as soon as there is a big wreck the rubes will be out in full force calling for them to be banned.

There's a difference between a typical auto crash/accident and a terrorist attack which causes a large loss of life, that being stupidity/ignorance vs malice. The people in the second situation don't even have to chance to be stupid or ignorant, they're just dead...the pawn of some dbag sitting behind a computer. Unless you can guarantee me that the traffic network is locked down like Fort Knox just as well in Bum#### Idaho as it is in DC, I'll stick to my own hands on the wheel.

I'm sure the driverless cars will have a manual override (should be mandated along with someone who has a license being required to sit in the drivers seat) but we're already distract when we have to drive, so the guy will probably be too busy surfing the net or doing a sodoku, or sleeping to notice that his car is headed straight towards a tanker truck.

 

[msommer]

Cant wait to sit at my computer hacking cars, driving them slow in the fast lane, not using my blinker, and using the windshield cleaner at full speed.

Just imagine the police hacks your car, to make you change lanes without signaling....