Had a WTF? conversation with the wife (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

I have reviewed the case and have determined that I would need a $10,000.00 retainer to handle the divorce proceeding.

I'll do it for 5k flat fee.

How do you make money? (Or is Arizona another world compared to New Jersey? Standard "easy" divorce here requires 3 court appearances. I'm guessing there will be a paternity test as part of this and a few motions regarding that. If I am in court all day - and you are here the calendar is so backed up - 3 full days is more than 5K right off the bat.

Well, I did mention I'd charge for the hotel stay.

Plus, what do you care? All you have to buy are toothpaste and lube at the commissary for the next few years while you pay your debt to society for impersonating an attorney.

I've always wondered... those people who "represent themselves"... why don't they get charged with impersonating an attorney?

Because then they'd represent themselves on that charge.

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

 

[Henry Ford]

I have reviewed the case and have determined that I would need a $10,000.00 retainer to handle the divorce proceeding.

I'll do it for 5k flat fee.

How do you make money? (Or is Arizona another world compared to New Jersey? Standard "easy" divorce here requires 3 court appearances. I'm guessing there will be a paternity test as part of this and a few motions regarding that. If I am in court all day - and you are here the calendar is so backed up - 3 full days is more than 5K right off the bat.

I'm in a smaller county, so unless the divorce is particularly messy I'm generally just looking at 1-2 court appearances and a few hours of paperwork. My office is in walking distance to the court and the court here runs on a pretty tight schedule so I'm not in court for a 30 minute hearing for much more than 45 minutes.

And for that you charge $5k?

No, for seven years of post-secondary education backed by malpractice insurance and knowledge of how to make sure your client doesn't get charged with bigamy if he marries again and/or knowledge of how to create an enforceable separation of property, plus probably knowing the judge by first name, he charges $5K.

 

[sbonomo]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

Impossible. He chamged his account name. She'd never figure it out.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I have reviewed the case and have determined that I would need a $10,000.00 retainer to handle the divorce proceeding.

I'll do it for 5k flat fee.

How do you make money? (Or is Arizona another world compared to New Jersey? Standard "easy" divorce here requires 3 court appearances. I'm guessing there will be a paternity test as part of this and a few motions regarding that. If I am in court all day - and you are here the calendar is so backed up - 3 full days is more than 5K right off the bat.

I'm in a smaller county, so unless the divorce is particularly messy I'm generally just looking at 1-2 court appearances and a few hours of paperwork. My office is in walking distance to the court and the court here runs on a pretty tight schedule so I'm not in court for a 30 minute hearing for much more than 45 minutes.

And for that you charge $5k?

No, for seven years of post-secondary education backed by malpractice insurance and knowledge of how to make sure your client doesn't get charged with bigamy if he marries again and/or knowledge of how to create an enforceable separation of property, plus probably knowing the judge by first name, he charges $5K.

Not to mention having to put up with people going through a divorce. And 5K is way way too cheap.

 

[Slapdash]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

There's like 6 posts in a 6 page thread.

And frankly, how could you not be entertained by me and woz having a conversations on fees in a divorce? That's good stuff. Next up, advanced costs or invoice costs? What works for you.

 

[Slapdash]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

There's like 6 posts in a 6 page thread. And frankly, how could you not be entertained by me and woz having a conversations on fees in a divorce? That's good stuff. Next up, advanced costs or invoice costs? What works for you.

At least it is better than DSP and Cliffton projecting onto Eggroll that his wife is getting gangbanged and blasted in the face.

 

[sbonomo]

maybe he is posting under a real Alias trying to throw us off the trail........let the witch hunt begin....

 

[Banger]

so she has 3 kids with 3 different men?

History repeats itself again...

man i love that song

one of my favorite of his.

 

[xulf]

Did you all miss the post where you "came out" ?

 

[Henry Ford]

Did you all miss the post where you "came out" ?

I definitely missed the post where I came out.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

There's like 6 posts in a 6 page thread. And frankly, how could you not be entertained by me and woz having a conversations on fees in a divorce? That's good stuff. Next up, advanced costs or invoice costs? What works for you.

At least it is better than DSP and Cliffton projecting onto Eggroll that his wife is getting gangbanged and blasted in the face.

Case similar..... Guy and girl go on like two week vacation to a sunny spot. For whatever reason they split up for a day and he goes and does guy stuff like fishing or something not important to the story and she stays to get a massage and some spa treatments. Somewhere between her going for a spa treatment and him coming back to the room, she was there with two guys. Getting the treatment. Needless to say he was unhappy with the situation. That divorce was fun. The words that were used in the hallways of justice were neither necessary for justice, nor accomodating towards justice.

Basically - if the other people in the hall are laughing and talking about your case - that's the fun attorney day.

 

[Henry Ford]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

There's like 6 posts in a 6 page thread. And frankly, how could you not be entertained by me and woz having a conversations on fees in a divorce? That's good stuff. Next up, advanced costs or invoice costs? What works for you.

At least it is better than DSP and Cliffton projecting onto Eggroll that his wife is getting gangbanged and blasted in the face.

Case similar..... Guy and girl go on like two week vacation to a sunny spot. For whatever reason they split up for a day and he goes and does guy stuff like fishing or something not important to the story and she stays to get a massage and some spa treatments. Somewhere between her going for a spa treatment and him coming back to the room, she was there with two guys. Getting the treatment. Needless to say he was unhappy with the situation. That divorce was fun. The words that were used in the hallways of justice were neither necessary for justice, nor accomodating towards justice.

Basically - if the other people in the hall are laughing and talking about your case - that's the fun attorney day.

Confirmed. That's one of those you hear about ten years later "hey, aren't you the guy my boss told me about who had that divorce a few years ago...?"

 

[chauncey]

She's banging her ex

Yep

 

[Zow]

I have reviewed the case and have determined that I would need a $10,000.00 retainer to handle the divorce proceeding.

I'll do it for 5k flat fee.

How do you make money? (Or is Arizona another world compared to New Jersey? Standard "easy" divorce here requires 3 court appearances. I'm guessing there will be a paternity test as part of this and a few motions regarding that. If I am in court all day - and you are here the calendar is so backed up - 3 full days is more than 5K right off the bat.

I'm in a smaller county, so unless the divorce is particularly messy I'm generally just looking at 1-2 court appearances and a few hours of paperwork. My office is in walking distance to the court and the court here runs on a pretty tight schedule so I'm not in court for a 30 minute hearing for much more than 45 minutes.

And for that you charge $5k?

No, for seven years of post-secondary education backed by malpractice insurance and knowledge of how to make sure your client doesn't get charged with bigamy if he marries again and/or knowledge of how to create an enforceable separation of property, plus probably knowing the judge by first name, he charges $5K.

Not to mention having to put up with people going through a divorce. And 5K is way way too cheap.

I didn't include in that answer the numerous phone calls and e-mails and the time it takes to get through to the other person that the law really doesn't care much about the opposing spouse being an ####### and that sole custody/spousal support for life is not in the cards.

 

[jon_mx]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

He probably died of boredom reading lawyerchat.

There's like 6 posts in a 6 page thread. And frankly, how could you not be entertained by me and woz having a conversations on fees in a divorce? That's good stuff. Next up, advanced costs or invoice costs? What works for you.

At least it is better than DSP and Cliffton projecting onto Eggroll that his wife is getting gangbanged and blasted in the face.

That is your opinion.

 

[chauncey]

OMG a woman may have lied about how many guys she banged. Ring the Church Bells we need to have another Bible lesson.

what kind of a woman runs around unprotected in the 1990 plus era anyway??

a lot of them.

Yep. What kind of woman/man runs around unprotected in the 1990 plus era anyway? The answer is all of them. Not saying it is wise but people are people and it happens.

 

[Reegus]

I'm going to go ahead and give egg roll a nick name I once gave my brother after dating 3 different girls with a kid whose was not his. Baggage Claim.

 

[Keerock]

I'm going to go ahead and give egg roll a nick name I once gave my brother after dating 3 different girls with a kid whose was not his. Baggage Claim.

We called "that guy" Dumpster ****.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

 

[Zow]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Doesn't matter if you charge fees or not. You cannot provide legal advice/representation without a license.

Although, the sanction for doing it, as far as i'm aware, is really just that you can't ever get a license if you tried.

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

 

[Eggroll]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

There are one or two more on this board who should take this advice.

 

[jon_mx]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Doesn't matter if you charge fees or not. You cannot provide legal advice/representation without a license.

Although, the sanction for doing it, as far as i'm aware, is really just that you can't ever get a license if you tried.

So pretending to be a lawyer will keep you from ever being a real lawyer. So you'll just have to keep pretending to be a lawyer. Duly noted.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

There are one or two more on this board who should take this advice.

I OBJECT!!!

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Doesn't matter if you charge fees or not. You cannot provide legal advice/representation without a license.

Although, the sanction for doing it, as far as i'm aware, is really just that you can't ever get a license if you tried.

So pretending to be a lawyer will keep you from ever being a real lawyer. So you'll just have to keep pretending to be a lawyer. Duly noted.

Except that once you've been ordered by the State Supreme Court to stop doing it, you're going to be in violation of that order and in contempt of court. Among other conceivable problems.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

 

[LinusMarr]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

Soooooo can we get an update without all the lawyer crap...

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

There are one or two more on this board who should take this advice.

I OBJECT!!!

Overruled.

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Doesn't matter if you charge fees or not. You cannot provide legal advice/representation without a license.

Although, the sanction for doing it, as far as i'm aware, is really just that you can't ever get a license if you tried.

So pretending to be a lawyer will keep you from ever being a real lawyer. So you'll just have to keep pretending to be a lawyer. Duly noted.

Except that once you've been ordered by the State Supreme Court to stop doing it, you're going to be in violation of that order and in contempt of court. Among other conceivable problems.

This fake lawyering stuff is tough.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

I'm in PA. And I should point out I have actually never done this. I just wondered where exactly the line was drawn at pretending to be a lawyer went.

 

[Henry Ford]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

I think the biggest concern here is that you no longer trust your wife. That's subjective, and it's hard to gauge over the internet what kind of advice to give.

Can she get your trust back? How? You need to have a long, sober conversation with her in which you detail the problem you're having, tell her you're not attacking her, you just need to figure out how you can both move forward together after finding out she's been lying to you for a decade and a half. And that you want to know everything she's been hiding, because you can't imagine spending 14 years lying to someone you live with about important stuff, and you believe that's how people get cancer.

Don't judge, don't freak out, and then after the conversation take a day or so to think it over. And tell her what you need to move forward.

I suggest two chicks at the same time.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

Denial.

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

I'm in PA. And I should point out I have actually never done this. I just wondered where exactly the line was drawn at pretending to be a lawyer went.

Wish I could give legal advice in your state. All I can do is tell you to discuss Title 18, section 4913 with a licensed legal professional in your area and see if he/she knows any other applicable statutes.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

Denial.

Drove there in my brand new Crossover.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

You can hand out business cards, you just can't give legal advice. If you are just impressing the womyn you are good.

Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. I just wasn't sure if saying you were a lawyer was a crime.

What state are you in?

I'm in PA. And I should point out I have actually never done this. I just wondered where exactly the line was drawn at pretending to be a lawyer went.

Wish I could give legal advice in your state. All I can do is tell you to discuss Title 18, section 4913 with a licensed legal professional in your area and see if he/she knows any other applicable statutes.

My lawyer (me) doesn't like to get too involved with statues and legal things that much. He's more of a straight shooter firing from the hip. His jib has a very nice cut.

 

[sbonomo]

something tells me there is way more to this story....you need to tell us way more about her baggage....there has to be some in this case.

Not sure what baggage you are looking for. If you ask specific things I can try to answer.

Daddy issues, abuse problems when she was a child, struggles with depression, bipolar, etc.....People don't just lose all of their morals in a night and end up with a kid....based on your description it also sounds like she was into some pretty hardcore activities as well......

Still waiting for an answer to this question :tapsfoot:

 

[TheIronSheik]

Now I'm wondering who's pretending to be a lawyer on this board that really isn't.

 

[Henry Ford]

Now I'm wondering who's pretending to be a lawyer on this board that really isn't.

Virtually everyone who posts anything about cases or statutes on this board. Also the majority of people who try to discuss the Constitution.

 

[Clifford]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

I think the biggest concern here is that you no longer trust your wife. That's subjective, and it's hard to gauge over the internet what kind of advice to give.

Can she get your trust back? How? You need to have a long, sober conversation with her in which you detail the problem you're having, tell her you're not attacking her, you just need to figure out how you can both move forward together after finding out she's been lying to you for a decade and a half. And that you want to know everything she's been hiding, because you can't imagine spending 14 years lying to someone you live with about important stuff, and you believe that's how people get cancer.

Don't judge, don't freak out, and then after the conversation take a day or so to think it over. And tell her what you need to move forward.

I suggest two chicks at the same time.

My question is whether you believe she was telling the whole truth when she was drunk. Based on the stuff about her ex knowing about the cheating but not demanding a paternity test and paying child support out of the goodness of his heart is a lot to believe. Also if I were you I would be really, really concerned with her question about whether it matters to you if you are the father of the third child? Seems like she was using your reaction to the fact that her ex isn't the father of kid 2 to gauge your reaction.

That and how you can square the fact that your relationship started with a lie is the most important thing.

 

[Eggroll]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

Soooooo can we get an update without all the lawyer crap...

Not a ton more to add. Tried to discuss some of the confessional with her last night, but she insists the night in question she had a few drinks and went to sleep and there was no discussion. Given that the kids were there, not a lot of privacy to talk about things.

I'm guessing that starting a conversation with "web buddies are wondering your record is for guys banged at a single party" is not going to get much play.

As for what she really did and with whom, not sure if she was trying to say she met guys she ended up having affairs with at parties (to explain the things happen at parties statement) or if she meant she was a party hook up queen ON TOP OF the affairs. It's hard enough to follow a sober woman, let alone a drunk one.

One thing I left out of the OP was that she had a friend she worked with that was pretty wild and promiscuous. Of course, it was her friend that egged her on and encouraged her to get involved with people. Not owning up to what she did and then trying to blame her friend as the cause for her indiscretions didn't wow me.

 

[Clifford]

Sounds like she has issues taking responsibility for her actions and owning up to them. First she was blaming the affairs on a bad marriage, now on a friend egging her on.

This reminds me a lot of a friend of mine from high-school, dropped out of college, has been in and out of rehab, three close brushes with death that I know about which likely means at least as many that I don't. Twice divorced at 36, bounces from job to job, no career, no health insurance, no direction except towards the grave. He attributes every single downturn in his life to someone else. Nothing is ever his doing or his fault.

But you said in OP that everything in the marriage has been relatively good right? Does this mean you have been happy with her and your marriage prior to this, or just that nothing really bad or weird has raised your suspicions?

 

[Henry Ford]

what happened to the OP? Wonder if the crazy wife shut his account down?

I'm still here. There have been several pages of stuff that have had nothing to do with the thread itself. Not much more to add with people talking about invoicing costs.

Soooooo can we get an update without all the lawyer crap...

Not a ton more to add. Tried to discuss some of the confessional with her last night, but she insists the night in question she had a few drinks and went to sleep and there was no discussion. Given that the kids were there, not a lot of privacy to talk about things.

I'm guessing that starting a conversation with "web buddies are wondering your record is for guys banged at a single party" is not going to get much play.

As for what she really did and with whom, not sure if she was trying to say she met guys she ended up having affairs with at parties (to explain the things happen at parties statement) or if she meant she was a party hook up queen ON TOP OF the affairs. It's hard enough to follow a sober woman, let alone a drunk one.

One thing I left out of the OP was that she had a friend she worked with that was pretty wild and promiscuous. Of course, it was her friend that egged her on and encouraged her to get involved with people. Not owning up to what she did and then trying to blame her friend as the cause for her indiscretions didn't wow me.

This is why you need to sit down and have a real talk with her about that night while sober. Beginning with "you were wasted, I was not, and I remember what happened. If you don't, that's a whole separate issue we need to talk about later."

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

There are one or two more on this board who should take this advice.

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wait.... you don't mean me, right? STill, hahahahaahhahahahahaha

 

[Henry Ford]

Serious answer, because they aren't representing another person. You only have to be a lawyer if you're representing someone else.

So is there a law like Impersonating a Police Officer? Or does it only apply if you charge for legal advice. Just wondering, because depending on your answer, I may need to change my business cards.

Depends on your jurisdiction.

There's a legal ethics rule in every jurisdiction that says, basically, they can keep you from ever becoming a legit lawyer if you've done this in the past and make you pay all the investigation costs and such. Some jurisdictions simply prosecute this as fraud or endangerment (if, for instance, you take on a criminal case and aren't a lawyer, you are endangering your client.) Some jurisdictions have an actual criminal law on the books. I think if you pretend to be one over the internet, lots of jurisdictions have laws about that now.

As my lawyer, I'm going to advise me not to continue to pretend I'm a lawyer.

There are one or two more on this board who should take this advice.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

wait.... you don't mean me, right? STill, hahahahaahhahahahahaha

No, I mean the people who aren't actually lawyers.