Had a WTF? conversation with the wife (1 Viewer)

[Abraham]

She needs to talk to her son. If your relationship has been good through the years then cut her some slack. If my wife knew how I behaved in the years leading up to meeting her (and even a few weeks thereafter) she probably wouldn't have married me. People make mistakes.

 

[Vike Me]

Back in the day when tv edited/voiced over more curses than today, Eggroll was used in lieu of ### hole. true story

You callin' this dude an eggroll??

You're part eggplant.

 

[Soulfly3]

She needs to talk to her son. If your relationship has been good through the years then cut her some slack. If my wife knew how I behaved in the years leading up to meeting her (and even a few weeks thereafter) she probably wouldn't have married me. People make mistakes.

why would anyone wanna marry someone who repeatedly cheated on their ex-husband, and fathered a baby by she doesnt even know who?

 

[ichris]

She's banging her ex

 

[Rick James]

honestly I wouldn't be too pleased with her actions prior to meeting me, but ultimately that stuff is water under the bridge. HOWEVER, this would absolutely cause me to question her every action, and like I said before start snooping to see if she had cheated on me.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

She needs to talk to her son. If your relationship has been good through the years then cut her some slack. If my wife knew how I behaved in the years leading up to meeting her (and even a few weeks thereafter) she probably wouldn't have married me. People make mistakes.

why would anyone wanna marry someone who repeatedly cheated on their ex-husband, and fathered a baby by she doesnt even know who?

And then kept it hidden for 14 years? Dont any of you bozo's care about honesty?

 

[TheMagus]

You mean to tell me a woman wasn't entirely forthright in giving an objective account of why her last relationship failed?

Trust me, I hear you on this being weird, but 14 years is a long time. Sounds like she likely has any issues under control and probably just got so drunk that the guilt came out. Yes, it sucks that she initially lied to you, but almost everyone bull####s their break up stories to potential mates. She likely didn't owe you anything at the time and if 14 years hasn't overcome an initial lie, then I don't know what to tell you.

Yea. I guess I'm not understanding why this is that big of a deal. It's not all that uncommon to not be truthful about previous relationships and how they ended when you meet someone new. And then there's a point where it would become weird to go back and say you lied years later at a time when you knew someone only for a short while. Is it the promiscuity part that is so bad? Or the lie. I mean I'd never tell my wife the reason why I broke up with some of my exes. It doesn't really matter. Who cares as long as your relationship is fine?

 

[xulf]

Whoever said you need to find out what triggered this even was dead on. You just don't one day decide to have enough liquid courage to do this after 14 years of hiding it. Something happened to make her tell you and that is what you need to know more about.

 

[Gianni Verscotchie]

You should get her drunk again and interrogate her.

That stuff is like truth serum to some people. You should make a video of it for future leverage also.

 

[xulf]

You should get her drunk again and interrogate her.

That stuff is like truth serum to some people. And brown dot her. You should make a video of it for future leverage also.

FYP

 

[Clifford]

To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?

Amateur move following up good bait with stink bait. Better luck next time.

Yeah. I created a whole new board name, waited out the multi day waiting period to be able to post, and then posted this ONE TOPIC just because I felt like messing with people on a message board about a made up story. That makes sense. Like I don't have anything better to do than go fishing about a personal issue on this site.

Well if that is true the "things happened" part of this sentence means you married a complete and total whore, like gangbang, multi-dude facial type whore. IMO you had grounds for possible divorce before this little nugget. Add in the fact that she is clearly still lying to you about the situation with her ex (biggest load of BS I have ever heard).

Hate to say it but I agree with GG on this one. Start getting as much info as possible and prep for divorce. Unless you are ok being married to a girl that gets used like a ragdoll at parties and lies to you all the time.

 

[optionmaven]

She really can't pinpoint the real father?? Or just doesn't want to for some reason? This I'm having a hard time believing. She should be able to narrow it down to a month or so of inception. How many different guys did she sleep with in a one month period? Even if there were one night stands, did she not know the names of the guys she was banging? How as a mother, could you NOT want to know who the father is? LAME.

 

[tonydead]

This is why I get hammered on the first date and don't wait 14 years.

 

[Clifford]

While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.

I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.

Lemme help you out then: the truth, even if it's only small pieces of it which is what you got.

 

[Clifford]

She really can't pinpoint the real father?? Or just doesn't want to for some reason? This I'm having a hard time believing. She should be able to narrow it down to a month or so of inception. How many different guys did she sleep with in a one month period? Even if there were one night stands, did she not know the names of the guys she was banging? How as a mother, could you NOT want to know who the father is? LAME.

I think the question is how many dudes per party.

 

[Abraham]

She really can't pinpoint the real father?? Or just doesn't want to for some reason? This I'm having a hard time believing. She should be able to narrow it down to a month or so of inception. How many different guys did she sleep with in a one month period? Even if there were one night stands, did she not know the names of the guys she was banging? How as a mother, could you NOT want to know who the father is? LAME.

I think this is a silly post. I knew lots of girls in my early twenties that might have 2 or 3 different partners in a 2 or 3 week period. It didn't make them whores that they enjoyed sex like other people. While I would imagine that a woman would "know" which time and with which dude conception happened, I am not a woman and therefore don't feel like assuming I know anything about them.

 

[Eggroll]

She really can't pinpoint the real father?? Or just doesn't want to for some reason? This I'm having a hard time believing. She should be able to narrow it down to a month or so of inception. How many different guys did she sleep with in a one month period? Even if there were one night stands, did she not know the names of the guys she was banging? How as a mother, could you NOT want to know who the father is? LAME.

She said she dated 3 guys on and off. May have been one or two other hook ups (those are her words not mine). And her ex-husband. It would have had to been 18+ years ago, 1000 miles away, and I am guessing any one night stands would be impossible to track down. She could probably find the guys that were regulars (so to speak) as she would probably remember their names. You would think she would have tried to sort this out years and years ago. Now I think she is just scared of finding out the truth and feeling guilty if her ex- is not the sperm donor.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Whoever said you need to find out what triggered this even was dead on. You just don't one day decide to have enough liquid courage to do this after 14 years of hiding it. Something happened to make her tell you and that is what you need to know more about.

I agree with this. Here's the big red flag:

Wifey was feeling sad and had a few drinks. And a few more after that. Passed three sheets to the wind territory three sheets ago. Very atypical, as she generally has 2 drink max and only every 6 months.

Did you guys go to a party or something? Getting really drunk at home when you hardly ever drink is odd. What did she claim was making her sad?

 

[Clifford]

Maybe something got uploaded from one of her parties.

ETA: Sneak peak of final post of thread

http://youtu.be/iL1OdlQKqzE

"I got you kinda!"

 

[NCCommish]

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

 

[Eggroll]

The other thing I left out was during the drunken rant and tell all, she didn't exactly go about all this in a clear and concise manner. She drifted among topics and didn't go in chronological order. So I had to try to follow the narrative and then reverse engineer it. What made things confusing (and suspicious) was when she would retell part of the story and changed what she said five minutes earlier. For example: hooked up with X at 4th of July and Y at the beach. 10 minutes later. Yes, I hooked up with Z at the 4th of July party and X at the beach. When I asked how Z got into the story, she would be like, "Oh he was so cute. He was so nice to me. I wish I did stuff with him. Never did though. It would have been really nice if something happened. There was that one time at the beach though and that was great." So suddenly there are 3 guys in a story that only had two. But then she denied anything to do with X. Really jumbled and hard to follow her stream of consciousness.

 

[Ghost Rider]

This is just more proof that no good comes from drinking.

 

[Clifford]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

 

[Henry Ford]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

Only the ones I remember fondly.

 

[Abraham]

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

"I love loose women as long as the only person they sleep with is me."

 

[DSP]

Wasnt coming back til friday but I have to chime in here because I know what this guy is going through.

1- get a paternity test ASAP

2-if things go sour in your relationship she will cheat on you. Holding this in for 14 years shows see is comfortable lying. She should have opened up about it years ago.

People are either cheaters or not and stay that way. A person with a faithful heart would never cheat even by accident. You need to find out if you are the dad. If you are you are going to be driven crazy with worrying what she is doing behind your back. That will slowly eat away at you.

Either way, real fathet or not, I would split. She has issues. I dont believe change at a certain deep level. A persons nature doesnt change.

I hope im wrong but those are my opinions as someone who knows how you feel.

I wish you the best. See you all this weekend.

 

[Nipsey]

The issue isn't what she was doing before you met, the issue is she manipulated you with a lie as to make you feel empathetic after you met. If her girlfriends backed her up then sounds like she was too embarrassed to tell anyone the truth. The old relationship sucked for her, she did stuff she regretted and didn't feel the need to tell every one she knew the gory details so stuck to the story that the guy just bolted. If the last 14 years have been good I don't think this is a hanging offense.

 

[NCCommish]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

So now she is a ####ty mom and a whore. Oh and some of my best experiences were "things that happened at parties". I got high 5s for those escapades luckily there were whores available.

And it happened 14 years ago. What I hear are a lot of little boys with fragile egos personally.

 

[Eggroll]

Whoever said you need to find out what triggered this even was dead on. You just don't one day decide to have enough liquid courage to do this after 14 years of hiding it. Something happened to make her tell you and that is what you need to know more about.

I agree with this. Here's the big red flag:

Wifey was feeling sad and had a few drinks. And a few more after that. Passed three sheets to the wind territory three sheets ago. Very atypical, as she generally has 2 drink max and only every 6 months.

Did you guys go to a party or something? Getting really drunk at home when you hardly ever drink is odd. What did she claim was making her sad?

We had gone to a wedding the weekend before and she got a little tipsy and wanted to have "quality time", but we had a ton of traveling to do so that didn't happen. The night of the tell all conversation, she wanted to revisit the drinking and quality time, but she ended up drinking way too much and went into non stop talking mode and really wasn't into doing anything physical. The discussion was more interesting anyway. She has been going through a lot at work, which she has been saying is the cause of her recent stress and upheaval.

 

[Rick James]

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

"I love loose women as long as the only person they sleep with is me."

Oh come on! There is a difference between (1) a chick who likes to get laid and (2) a wife who cheats multiple times with multiple partners, can't identify the father of her child, and explains her actions with "you know things happen at parties."

 

[Gr00vus]

The other thing I left out was during the drunken rant and tell all, she didn't exactly go about all this in a clear and concise manner. She drifted among topics and didn't go in chronological order. So I had to try to follow the narrative and then reverse engineer it. What made things confusing (and suspicious) was when she would retell part of the story and changed what she said five minutes earlier. For example: hooked up with X at 4th of July and Y at the beach. 10 minutes later. Yes, I hooked up with Z at the 4th of July party and X at the beach. When I asked how Z got into the story, she would be like, "Oh he was so cute. He was so nice to me. I wish I did stuff with him. Never did though. It would have been really nice if something happened. There was that one time at the beach though and that was great." So suddenly there are 3 guys in a story that only had two. But then she denied anything to do with X. Really jumbled and hard to follow her stream of consciousness.

So you still have no idea why she got depressed and then plastered before she did her tell all?

Something happened to put her in that state. You should find out what that is, because unlike this past stuff, that probably does have a direct impact on you. Is it a coincidence she went on a litany of guys she practiced infidelity with behind her previous husband's back instead of some other random depressing topic? I'd be pretty uncomfortable about that if I were you.

 

[Eggroll]

Wasnt coming back til friday but I have to chime in here because I know what this guy is going through.

1- get a paternity test ASAP

2-if things go sour in your relationship she will cheat on you. Holding this in for 14 years shows see is comfortable lying. She should have opened up about it years ago.

People are either cheaters or not and stay that way. A person with a faithful heart would never cheat even by accident. You need to find out if you are the dad. If you are you are going to be driven crazy with worrying what she is doing behind your back. That will slowly eat away at you.

Either way, real fathet or not, I would split. She has issues. I dont believe change at a certain deep level. A persons nature doesnt change.

I hope im wrong but those are my opinions as someone who knows how you feel.

I wish you the best. See you all this weekend.

Apparently missed the part where I wasn't the dad to begin with, so a paternity test will confirm I am not the father. But you meant well, so thanks for the support.

 

[NCCommish]

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

Some of you people have issues. She's a whore? Seriously that old saw again? Bet most of the people calling her a whore weren't always very careful or very picky about where they put it or how many women they put it in. But that's cool those women were whores for letting you.

"I love loose women as long as the only person they sleep with is me."

Oh come on! There is a difference between (1) a chick who likes to get laid and (2) a wife who cheats multiple times with multiple partners, can't identify the father of her child, and explains her actions with "you know things happen at parties."

Yes because drunks are ever so lucid and clear.

 

[Gr00vus]

Wasnt coming back til friday but I have to chime in here because I know what this guy is going through.

1- get a paternity test ASAP

2-if things go sour in your relationship she will cheat on you. Holding this in for 14 years shows see is comfortable lying. She should have opened up about it years ago.

People are either cheaters or not and stay that way. A person with a faithful heart would never cheat even by accident. You need to find out if you are the dad. If you are you are going to be driven crazy with worrying what she is doing behind your back. That will slowly eat away at you.

Either way, real fathet or not, I would split. She has issues. I dont believe change at a certain deep level. A persons nature doesnt change.

I hope im wrong but those are my opinions as someone who knows how you feel.

I wish you the best. See you all this weekend.

Apparently missed the part where I wasn't the dad to begin with, so a paternity test will confirm I am not the father. But you meant well, so thanks for the support.

I think he's talking about the son you (think) you have together, not your step kids.

 

[T Bell]

I think Clifford is projecting a lot of his own marital problems onto this situation.

 

[buck naked]

If its me, I'm very concerned. She has essentially lied to you for 14 years. At a minimum, she didn't trust you enough to reveal this while you were dating OR during the first 14 years of your marriage.

She lied to her first husband about all the affairs and that the child was not his. She claims it was a "bad marriage", but who knows if that part is true? She has already lied to you about the circumstances of how her first marriage ended. Plus, if she cheated on her spouse previously, she thinks that conduct is acceptable and could do it again. If she hasn't done it already.

She clearly has deep-seeded problems with her history. It is going to affect both of you, and your marriage as well. Marriage counseling is strongly recommended. You both will have to deal with trust issues, and whether your marriage is worth fighting for.

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Nice catch. Darnit. That almost never happens to me.

 

[NCCommish]

I think Clifford is projecting a lot of his own marital problems onto this situation.

I think a lot is being projected by more than one poster here.

 

[DSP]

Wasnt coming back til friday but I have to chime in here because I know what this guy is going through.

1- get a paternity test ASAP

2-if things go sour in your relationship she will cheat on you. Holding this in for 14 years shows see is comfortable lying. She should have opened up about it years ago.

People are either cheaters or not and stay that way. A person with a faithful heart would never cheat even by accident. You need to find out if you are the dad. If you are you are going to be driven crazy with worrying what she is doing behind your back. That will slowly eat away at you.

Either way, real fathet or not, I would split. She has issues. I dont believe change at a certain deep level. A persons nature doesnt change.

I hope im wrong but those are my opinions as someone who knows how you feel.

I wish you the best. See you all this weekend.

Apparently missed the part where I wasn't the dad to begin with, so a paternity test will confirm I am not the father. But you meant well, so thanks for the support.

I think he's talking about the son you (think) you have together, not your step kids.

Yup. Asking if it would matter if you are the real father implies there is much more she isnt telling.

You need to know. Its likely now that your relationship will deteriorate and then she will think about cheating on you if she hasnt already. Huge red flags going off.

Sounds like your relationship is built on many lies

 

[Slapdash]

Nothing to add except good luck.

 

[Clifford]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

So now she is a ####ty mom and a whore. Oh and some of my best experiences were "things that happened at parties". I got high 5s for those escapades luckily there were whores available.

And it happened 14 years ago. What I hear are a lot of little boys with fragile egos personally.

So according to you, if you find it problematic that your wife

1. Has lied to you for 14 years

2. Lied to you at the very beginning of your relationship

3. Does not know who fathered at least one of her children

4. Has not told her grown child that she does not know who his/her father is

5. Slept with multiple men because she felt she was in a "bad marriage," quite possibly in a gangbang scenario multiple times

6. Hinted that you might not be the father of your own child

then you are the one with a problem, not her. You're ####### crazy.

Ok, well, congrats to the OP for creating a bizarro universe where GG and DSP make more sense than anyone else.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Has anyone mentioned the impact on the youngest child who now has his/her actual known father to be in doubt?

That should come first in all of this.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I think Clifford is projecting a lot of his own marital problems onto this situation.

I think a lot is being projected by more than one poster here.

I dig it.

 

[DSP]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

So now she is a ####ty mom and a whore. Oh and some of my best experiences were "things that happened at parties". I got high 5s for those escapades luckily there were whores available.

And it happened 14 years ago. What I hear are a lot of little boys with fragile egos personally.

So according to you, if you find it problematic that your wife1. Has lied to you for 14 years

2. Lied to you at the very beginning of your relationship

3. Does not know who fathered at least one of her children

4. Has not told her grown child that she does not know who his/her father is

5. Slept with multiple men because she felt she was in a "bad marriage," quite possibly in a gangbang scenario multiple times

6. Hinted that you might not be the father of your own child

then you are the one with a problem, not her. You're ####### crazy.

Ok, well, congrats to the OP for creating a bizarro universe where GG and DSP make more sense than anyone else.

If nothing else I am an expert on being cuckolded

 

[Spike]

The other thing I left out was during the drunken rant and tell all, she didn't exactly go about all this in a clear and concise manner. She drifted among topics and didn't go in chronological order. So I had to try to follow the narrative and then reverse engineer it. What made things confusing (and suspicious) was when she would retell part of the story and changed what she said five minutes earlier. For example: hooked up with X at 4th of July and Y at the beach. 10 minutes later. Yes, I hooked up with Z at the 4th of July party and X at the beach. When I asked how Z got into the story, she would be like, "Oh he was so cute. He was so nice to me. I wish I did stuff with him. Never did though. It would have been really nice if something happened. There was that one time at the beach though and that was great." So suddenly there are 3 guys in a story that only had two. But then she denied anything to do with X. Really jumbled and hard to follow her stream of consciousness.

So you still have no idea why she got depressed and then plastered before she did her tell all?

Something happened to put her in that state. You should find out what that is, because unlike this past stuff, that probably does have a direct impact on you. Is it a coincidence she went on a litany of guys she practiced infidelity with behind her previous husband's back instead of some other random depressing topic? I'd be pretty uncomfortable about that if I were you.

I have to agree with this.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

DSP gives himself a ban until Friday....This thread comes out and stinks to holy hell...DSP uses this thread to prematurely end his self-imposed ban approximately 24 hours after stating it, four days before it was to end.

The pieces are all there. We just have to put together the puzzle.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

This chick is probably great in the sack, amirite?

 

[BobbyLayne]

If its me, I'm very concerned. She has essentially lied to you for 14 years. At a minimum, she didn't trust you enough to reveal this while you were dating OR during the first 14 years of your marriage.

She lied to her first husband about all the affairs and that the child was not his. She claims it was a "bad marriage", but who knows if that part is true? She has already lied to you about the circumstances of how her first marriage ended. Plus, if she cheated on her spouse previously, she thinks that conduct is acceptable and could do it again. If she hasn't done it already.

She clearly has deep-seeded problems with her history. It is going to affect both of you, and your marriage as well. Marriage counseling is strongly recommended. You both will have to deal with trust issues, and whether your marriage is worth fighting for.

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Nice catch. Darnit. That almost never happens to me.

Though metaphorically deep-seeded works in this case.

 

[DSP]

DSP gives himself a ban until Friday....This thread comes out and stinks to holy hell...DSP uses this thread to prematurely end his self-imposed ban approximately 24 hours after stating it, four days before it was to end.

The pieces are all there. We just have to put together the puzzle.

I have to make an exception here for a brother in need. This is a serious situation and im not posting anywhere else.

This man is going through pain right now and he needs us. This is really not the time or place to turn this in to an arguement. Show some compassion.

 

[NCCommish]

NC, how many girls you know describe their sexual encounters as "things happening at parties."

I'm all for chicks who love **** going out and getting some. But I personally would not want to find out 14 years in that not only is my wife a horrible liar, past philanderer and, let's face it, ####ty mom, but also someone who got passed around.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

So now she is a ####ty mom and a whore. Oh and some of my best experiences were "things that happened at parties". I got high 5s for those escapades luckily there were whores available.

And it happened 14 years ago. What I hear are a lot of little boys with fragile egos personally.

So according to you, if you find it problematic that your wife

1. Has lied to you for 14 years

2. Lied to you at the very beginning of your relationship

3. Does not know who fathered at least one of her children

4. Has not told her grown child that she does not know who his/her father is

5. Slept with multiple men because she felt she was in a "bad marriage," quite possibly in a gangbang scenario multiple times

6. Hinted that you might not be the father of your own child

then you are the one with a problem, not her. You're ####### crazy.

Ok, well, congrats to the OP for creating a bizarro universe where GG and DSP make more sense than anyone else.

1) Yeah my wife wouldn't have to lie because I don't care what happened before me. Just like she doesn't care how many times I snorted coke off some dancers ### before we got together.

2) Again see number one and I still don't care.

3) This one is worse but still not my problem really. And it sounds like she can narrow it down but hasn't because dude from the first marriage would rather pay support then admit she cuckoled him. There's that ego again.

4) The kid isn't grown he is still in high school. And really what good is going to come from telling him that the guy who has paid for him,tells him he is his dad and he loves him is all lie?

5) You have no idea if there was a gang bang that is just your fevered imagination. And again cheating on someone else isn't cheating on me.

6) She did not. She asked what would it matter, again projection. If I found out she cheated on me and the kid wasn't mine I am not going to love that child any less would you? Is your love for the child really predicated on a few minutes in the sack over a lifetime together?

 

[Clifford]

I think Clifford is projecting a lot of his own marital problems onto this situation.

Hey man, why don't you PM me with whatever your problem is with me or get off my nuts?