Hakeem Nicks scoring change (1 Viewer)

[Badgers Fan]

The NFL has credited Hakeem Nicks with a 23-yard reception from Week 2 after it was initially ruled a pass interference penalty.

It's a 2.3-point swing in standard scoring leagues, bringing Nicks' Week 2 stat line up from three catches for 15 yards and a touchdown to four grabs for 38 yards and the score. Fantasy commissioners will have to dictate in their own leagues how to treat the situation, but the play surely was a reception down the left sideline with Bradley Fletcher in coverage. For the season, Nicks is up to 11 grabs for 160 yards, plus the one TD

-rotoworld.com

I called ESPN on the matter, because I tied my friend this past week, who is also the commissioner so he would not do anything about this. ESPN should be updating their scoring thursday, and I should be awarded a win. Is this going to affect anyone else's match?

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Will not effect outcome in either of my leagues that I own him, although total points matter in both.

I thought Nicks got hosed on that play at the time as it was clearly a catch.

Neither MFL or CBS has changed Nicks' point totals. Does anyone know the default protocol under both systems? I commish the CBS league but I will not manually change it as I don't flyspeck post-Tuesday stat changes (and there are many each week) for all players. IMO, this should be up to the host site.

 

[solorca]

In my Mfl league, the nicks owner lost by exactly 3.3 points in a ppr. Will switch that game to a tie. I assume Mfl updates automatically?

 

[The Man With No Name]

MFL will update Thursday morning

 

[Spin]

For MFL stat changes go through on Thursday. If the op is correct, it will be changed Thursday morning. It's up to your commissioner if they allow stat changes or not.

 

[solorca]

Is there a place on Mfl where it shows the league setting on this? I can't find it in the bylaws

 

[cubbie5150]

Thankfully I will win whether CBS updates Nicks stats or not (albeit by 2 pts instead of by 4.5 pts)

 

[tenaka]

I lost by 40, they need to find me more credits than that...

 

[xpiredcoupon]

any info on when yahoo will update? I lost by 2.5 in a PPR

 

[andyhdz]

any info on when yahoo will update? I lost by 2.5 in a PPR

thursday.

 

[BRONG]

Thankfully I will win whether CBS updates Nicks stats or not (albeit by 2 pts instead of by 4.5 pts)

OMG, PHEW!!!

 

[Zaxxon]

Thankfully I will win whether CBS updates Nicks stats or not (albeit by 2 pts instead of by 4.5 pts)

Any chance of you posting your roster, scoring system and current standings of every team in your league?

 

[bulger2holt]

Why won't CBS sportsline change theirs ?

 

[King of the Wolfies]

i own nicks and dont understand how the league can change what happened on the field 3 days later. is the pac-10 running the nfl?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Funny how only Nicks is mentioned. I assume Eli should get 23 addl passing yards as well.

Also, I could've sworn that there was a similar deal in the Saints-Packers game in week 1 where a receiver made a catch but the PI penalty was accepted for some reason. Was that ever adjusted?

 

[bulger2holt]

if the NFL changes it, then so should FF leagues.

 

[jon_mx]

I got a bit nervous, I looked at week one when I was playing against him and won by one point, but then I looked back and this was for week 2.

 

[ScottyDog]

It changed the outcome in my league. A team won by 1.5 points and now is going to lose by .8 points. As the commish I am shocked.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Was this the actual play that occurred in the game?? (i.e., Eli Manning to Hakeem Nicks, 23 yards. Penalty Defensive Pass Interference, declined)

If not, how can you rewrite history?

 

[Reepicheep]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

 

[Young 8]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

Agree, some posts are really annoying

 

[Andrew74]

Well if this is true, I am about to lose. And waivers go tonight, so I get doubly screwed.

 

[bushdocda]

So in the case that this impacts win/loss, do waivers normally get rerun based on new order worst to first. No chance this is in the 'bylaws' as not a hawk nor shark league an yes I should quit bc no blind bidding. I am not impacted, just curious of any experiences.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

i dont ever remember a PI that is accepted in the game, being turned into a pass reception as a stat correction.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I lost by 2 and would get the tie in this case, but I have to say I don't think the scoring should change. The reason I feel that way is the waivers have been run for the week, people have trade offers, trades being effected, and I just think when the week is over, it is over.

If the NFL made some mistakes during that time, they made some mistakes. Maybe they should have turned over a reviewed challenge and didn't. I don't mind the NFL going back and giving the yardage but for fantasy purposes, the week is over when it's over and you move on.

So in the Championship game, would you crown someone champion, write the check and then take that back and give it to the other guy?

 

[Andrew74]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

i dont ever remember a PI that is accepted in the game, being turned into a pass reception as a stat correction.

I just found a youtube of the play and the ref said "PI, automatic first down.".

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

if the NFL changes it, then so should FF leagues.

Why, because fantasy football and the NFL do everything the exact same way?

 

[bulger2holt]

if the NFL changes it, then so should FF leagues.

Why, because fantasy football and the NFL do everything the exact same way?

Considering FF is based on real NFL stats, why shouldn't it be changed ?

 

[Reepicheep]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

i dont ever remember a PI that is accepted in the game, being turned into a pass reception as a stat correction.

I just found a youtube of the play and the ref said "PI, automatic first down.".

Interesting. So we are 100% confident that the Giants accepted the PI penalty on the field? If so then I agree this makes no sense.I had assumed it was the usual changing the official record to accurately reflect what took place on the field, which does make sense.

 

[Andrew74]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

i dont ever remember a PI that is accepted in the game, being turned into a pass reception as a stat correction.

I just found a youtube of the play and the ref said "PI, automatic first down.".

Interesting. So we are 100% confident that the Giants accepted the PI penalty on the field? If so then I agree this makes no sense.I had assumed it was the usual changing the official record to accurately reflect what took place on the field, which does make sense.

This is what I found. Who knows.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4San-2s3Q

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

if the NFL changes it, then so should FF leagues.

Why, because fantasy football and the NFL do everything the exact same way?

Considering FF is based on real NFL stats, why shouldn't it be changed ?

It's just my opinion but I feel when the week is over, it's over. In many leagues, waiver wires run on how you did the previous week, so if you go back and switch that several days later you get guys who should have drafted higher on the waiver wire and others that should have been lower. Mistakes are going to be made, I just feel that if nothing has changed by very early Tuesday morning when things are finalized, it becomes a win or loss for the week and you move on. If the NFL happens to change it at a later date, it's a tough beat but that's the way it is.Like I said, I'd get a tie out of the deal instead of a loss in one of my leagues if we change it but my honest opinion is that fantasy football scoring should not be changed from week 2 in week 3.What's worse, I played my buddy and spent Tuesday morning telling him how ridiculous it was that that Nicks catch wasn't ruled a catch on the field. He didn't even see it and played it off but I forwarded him that rotoworld info to catch his attention. I saw it was a catch right away, I'm disappointed nobody caught it when they needed to on Monday night.

 

[CalBear]

So in the case that this impacts win/loss, do waivers normally get rerun based on new order worst to first. No chance this is in the 'bylaws' as not a hawk nor shark league an yes I should quit bc no blind bidding. I am not impacted, just curious of any experiences.

What your bylaws should include is a cut-off day and time for stat changes. If stats are final as of 12:01 AM Wednesday, you don't make the change. If they're final as of 12:01 AM Thursday, you make the change.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

i dont ever remember a PI that is accepted in the game, being turned into a pass reception as a stat correction.

I just found a youtube of the play and the ref said "PI, automatic first down.".

Interesting. So we are 100% confident that the Giants accepted the PI penalty on the field? If so then I agree this makes no sense.I had assumed it was the usual changing the official record to accurately reflect what took place on the field, which does make sense.

I'm not 100 percent sure but I'm pretty sure. I never youtubed it but I was watching the game and ticked off that they accepted the penalty without checking on the play. It was my understanding that they ruled it NO CATCH and there was a penalty, so since there was a penalty they didn't review the play because they had the penalty. I could be wrong but it's what made sense to me after yelling about it because that catch would have tied my score.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

So in the case that this impacts win/loss, do waivers normally get rerun based on new order worst to first. No chance this is in the 'bylaws' as not a hawk nor shark league an yes I should quit bc no blind bidding. I am not impacted, just curious of any experiences.

What your bylaws should include is a cut-off day and time for stat changes. If stats are final as of 12:01 AM Wednesday, you don't make the change. If they're final as of 12:01 AM Thursday, you make the change.

That is right. The later the date, the more your league favors the idea of stat changes and wins and losses being reversed.If you were starting up a league CalBear, what rule would you implement there if it was up to you?

 

[Young 8]

It's just my opinion but I feel when the week is over, it's over.

You're right

And the week is over on THURSDAY when Elias Sports Bureau makes stats OFFICIAL

 

[Birdie048]

We have the "SCORES FINAL" effective 6:00 pm Wednesday (IIRC). Stat changes after that do not count. Period.

Our Nicks Owner had him on the bench.... fearing he would not play. Lost by less that 1 pt.

 

[nysportsfan]

In my Mfl league, the nicks owner lost by exactly 3.3 points in a ppr. Will switch that game to a tie. I assume Mfl updates automatically?

No, it's an option for the commish.

 

[nysportsfan]

We have the "SCORES FINAL" effective 6:00 pm Wednesday (IIRC). Stat changes after that do not count. Period. Our Nicks Owner had him on the bench.... fearing he would not play. Lost by less that 1 pt.

Don't stat changes always officially come out on Thursday from the league?

 

[moderated]

This isn't new, final stat corrections have been Issued on Wednesday night and updated on FF sites thurs morning for as long as I can remember.

It usually doesn't affect a matchup and mostly happens to defensive players but wtf is going on in here, anyone who has been in FF for over a year should know this.

 

[moderated]

Yahoo fantasy updates corrections automatically, not sure about other sites.

 

[Abraham]

Happens all the time. Deal with it.

Two years ago Warner/Boldin td changed from a pass to a rush in week 16, altering more then a few title games. It is what it is.

 

[moderated]

Happens all the time. Deal with it. Two years ago Warner/Boldin td changed from a pass to a rush in week 16, altering more then a few title games. It is what it is.

I'm shocked people with join dates earlier then 09' are surprised by stat corrections. Corrections happen every week and have changed many outcomes over the years, especially in IDP leagues.

 

[Birdie048]

We have the "SCORES FINAL" effective 6:00 pm Wednesday (IIRC). Stat changes after that do not count. Period. Our Nicks Owner had him on the bench.... fearing he would not play. Lost by less that 1 pt.

Don't stat changes always officially come out on Thursday from the league?

NO, MFL will not automaticly change the scores. Commish must manually perform the move.

 

[CalBear]

So in the case that this impacts win/loss, do waivers normally get rerun based on new order worst to first. No chance this is in the 'bylaws' as not a hawk nor shark league an yes I should quit bc no blind bidding. I am not impacted, just curious of any experiences.

What your bylaws should include is a cut-off day and time for stat changes. If stats are final as of 12:01 AM Wednesday, you don't make the change. If they're final as of 12:01 AM Thursday, you make the change.

That is right. The later the date, the more your league favors the idea of stat changes and wins and losses being reversed.If you were starting up a league CalBear, what rule would you implement there if it was up to you?

My tendency is to finalize things relatively quickly. My main league is using CBS's default, which is that they'll adjust them up through Thursday, or Wednesday if there's a Thursday game that week. I would probably prefer to limit it to Wednesday in all cases, or maybe even Tuesday to coincide with the waiver run. (Although we use FAAB so waiver priority isn't quite as important).I have Nicks, so this will affect me, but not enough to change the outcome of the game.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

Because it was called PI on the field and they went with it.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

if the NFL changes it, then so should FF leagues.

Why, because fantasy football and the NFL do everything the exact same way?

Considering FF is based on real NFL stats, why shouldn't it be changed ?

That's shorsighted. There are hundreds of variables that do not mesh in the conversion.

 

[Grand Poobah]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

Because it was called PI on the field and they went with it.

This is what i'm thinking. I've had scoring changes go both ways no big deal. I just don't get this one.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

It's just my opinion but I feel when the week is over, it's over.

You're right

And the week is over on THURSDAY when Elias Sports Bureau makes stats OFFICIAL

That is true under most circumstances, but this wasn't a third party company scouring the tapes and counting stats. This was the NFL going back and change history in essentialy overruling the PI first down call, then issued their change in ruling to Elias. The call was never made on the field. It's assumptive on the NFL's part. Sure, NY would have taken the catch but that never happened. This is where we face difficulties in converting the NFL to NFL Fantasy.It should be noted, I was in no way affected by this outcome in any league. I just don't like it. These things happen every week but the NFL never makes these types of ruling changes. Maybe they should go back and issue a penalty for unsportsman like conduct for the Giants faking injury.

 

[moderated]

I don't understand why people act like the mid-week stat adjustments are some new amazing thing every week of every season?

Because it was called PI on the field and they went with it.

This is what i'm thinking. I've had scoring changes go both ways no big deal. I just don't get this one.

This is why you go with the OFFICIAL stat corrections so you don't have people wasting time arguing semantics.Every league I'm in runs them automatically thurs morning, that way there is no arguing, whatever the site updates is the final decision. No #####ing and moaning that way.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Happens all the time. Deal with it.

That's aweful antagonistic. Is this not a place to discuss an important event in the NFL, and fantasy football? You're the guy to ask since you have that fancy moderator tag next to your avatar.