Not sure if I missed something big here, but where is Nicks? I haven't seen the NYG in preseason yet but he hasn't posted much if anything for stats: 2 rec for 13 yards. Not that I'm expecting stellar stats in the preseason but considering he had some off season procedures I am hoping to see something from him. I won't be worried till after the 3'rd preseason game but still curious. Anyone have some insight on this?
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Your probably right and that makes sense. I guess I was expecting to see more just to make sure he's healthy. Hixon has been looking good btw.
netnalp
Footballguy
Nicks seems to have been out there so they can accurately evaluate Manningham's role and the other WRs. Hixon has the lead for the #3, Thomas, Cruz and Reynaud are competing for #4.
SlevinKelevra
Footballguy
You should drop him for Antonio Brown
golfguy
Footballguy
this sums up the preseason in a nutshell. the 3rd string back just carved up the 3rd string defense, he is awesome. lol
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I wouldn't expect much tonight against Revis. Week 16 preview for Nicks owners.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
i think I like what I can get out of Manningham a few rounds later.....
netnalp
Footballguy
He might get targets. Since the game doesn't count, why not see what you can accomplish against Revis so you have tape to work with for the regular season game. Now is the time to take risks with the ball and see what happens.
golfguy
Footballguy
I saw this someplace else, and I have to say this is very much overanalysis. looking at match-ups in week 16 is a little overboard. who knows, maybe the jets are resting revis then or he isn't playing. you need to get to the championship game in the first place.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I have a good friend who's been to Giants training camp a couple of times in the past few weeks and said that Nicks looks incredible. He's absolutely dominating their DBs and catching everything that comes his way. The Giants are not working him so hard in preseason games because he's so clear cut the #1 guy there that it's not worth the injury risk. Draft with extreme confidence.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Unless you're a member of the giants coaching staff......I respectfully disagree with you on your 3rd receiver evaluation.
T with T
Footballguy
Yes you are right to a degree, Except Brown was carving up first stringers and is a legitimate sleeper stud who could take over Wards number 2 sooner then later.. The kid is impressive. As far as Nicks is concerned, It is preseason, they know what they got with Nicks, he is taking it easy til the games count..
OnTheReg
Footballguy
Thanks man, eases whatever overblown fears I had.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I've posted it in a few places. Nicks also has Nnamdi twice. I often use schedule to differentiate between evenly ranked players. Overanalysis, maybe, but it's significant in my mind.I also agree with the poster above regarding Mario Manningham. He'll likely have similar statistics to Nicks at a much cheaper price.
netnalp
Footballguy
I'm going based off of camp reports. Cruz has had issues with drops in camp and Thomas has been having a great camp, despite having a dislocated finger where the bone poked through the skin. People are still recalling the great preseason Cruz had last year, but he hasn't had that good of a camp/preseason this year. Could be rust, but he hasn't outplayed Hixon or Thomas this camp. Cruz will make the team because he has been good on special teams. I'm not saying Cruz can't develop into something more, but so far this offseason he hasn't shown the type of production he did last year.I've seen blurbs that Cruz could be the #3, but those comments haven't come from people that have been at camp.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
The only thing that I dont like about Nicks this year is that taking him pretty much prohibits me from taking my favorite middle round WR, Manningham. I took Nicks/Jennings at the 2nd-3rd round swing, and based on my drafting position, having the 1st pick of the 5th and last pick of the 6th was terrible positioning to target Mario, and he was gone by my 6th round pick.
I dont buy fact that he plays Nnamdi and Revis as reasoning to pass on Nicks. If AJ/CJ/VJax/Fitz, maybe Jennings, are all gone, youre fooling yourself if you pass on Nicks. That said, I wont take him in my last money league draft wednesday just so I can hopefully land Manningham later.
I dont buy fact that he plays Nnamdi and Revis as reasoning to pass on Nicks. If AJ/CJ/VJax/Fitz, maybe Jennings, are all gone, youre fooling yourself if you pass on Nicks. That said, I wont take him in my last money league draft wednesday just so I can hopefully land Manningham later.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I hope you're right. With Steve Smith out of there, I love both Nicks and Manningham. My sights were set on the latter because of value. I wasn't going to take Nicks in the 2nd round (8th pick in a 12 teamer) but almost fell out of my chair when he was sitting there for me in the 3rd. Gobbled up Manningham a few rounds later. To hell with the 2 WR from one team angle. I think Eli is going to throw 30 touchdowns, with Nicks and Manningham both going for 1,000 yards+ and 10 TD's. Really, barring injury, what's the floor with these guys?'Grahamburn said:
Judge Smails
Footballguy
why are you so against taking both?'Kenny Powers said:
T with T
Footballguy
I think Nicks is anywhere from 80-100 catches 1100-1500 yards and 10-15 tds.. depending on injury, and how much I expect Nicks To be better going into his 3rd year... He was close to them numbers last year and missed 3 games.. I love this guy
jurb26
Footballguy
Up until a few weeks ago I think taking both would have been the smart "shark" move if you will. Manningham's ADP is going through the roof now though. He's now got an ADP of 6.01 and he's going as soon as the mid 3rd round in some leagues. I don't know that taking both that early is wise. When Manningham had an ADP of round 8 or later, sure go for it. Now that both are going so soon however I don't think I could justify putting so many eggs in the NYG/Eli basket.
greggorymac
Footballguy
Nnamdi only plays the defensive right side of the field, he does not shadow the same receiver. If the Giants want to create a mismatch for Nicks all they have to do is line Hakeem up on the other side.'Grahamburn said:
that's how he played in OAK. Have the Eagles already said they'll use him the same way?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, 5 catches for 71yds in 2.5 quarters vs Revis. Im definitely not letting that scare me into taking anyone but AJ, Megatron, or VJax over him.'Kenny Powers said:
mr roboto
Footballguy
I want to play in your league.
sorry dude, we're full!!!
mr roboto
Footballguy
Just outta curiosity, which WR's went ahead of Nicks? He was gone in mid-2nd, right before I took VJax. How does he fall to the 3rd?
DoubleG
Footballguy
The problem with either is that it's Eli throwing them the ball - and he just looks "off" so far this preseason. Maybe he'll pull it all together and everything will be fine, but right now, the Giants offense doesn't seem to be firing ona ll cylindars.
was very strange tonight. went WR-WR-WR for the first time ever... here's what shook out... non ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr/te, 1 d, 1k...5 Andre Johnson, Hou WR 20 Calvin Johnson, Det WR 29 Hakeem Nicks, NYG WR 44 Felix Jones, Dal RB 53 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit QB 68 Mark Ingram, NO RB 77 Cedric Benson, Cin RB 92 Reggie Bush, Mia RB 101 Matthew Stafford, Det QB 116 Jacoby Ford, Oak WR 125 Patriots D/ST D/ST 140 Rob Gronkowski, NE TE 149 Bernard Scott, Cin RB 164 Jason Hanson, Det K
nysportsfan
Footballguy
On board, took him in round two. Bought into the hype.
netnalp
Footballguy
1st catch was against Revis. Looks like Cromartie covered Nicks most of the time. Don't know if the Jets played Revis on one side, covered the faster guy in Manningham or plan to use Cromartie and a safety to double the top WR and have Revis cover the #2 WR. Or maybe they did that so as to not tip their hand for the regular season matchup.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Great job. Obviously you need Felix and Ingram to both outperform their draft spots, but you will kill at the receiver spot.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
In our 12 team league the WR's went in this order through 3 rounds (grouped by round)
Andre Johnson
Calvin Johnson
Roddy White
Mike Wallace
Larry Fitzgerald
Greg Jennings
Vincent Jackson
Reggie Wayne
Hakeem Nicks
Miles Austin
DeSean Jackson
Dez Bryant
Andre Johnson
Calvin Johnson
Roddy White
Mike Wallace
Larry Fitzgerald
Greg Jennings
Vincent Jackson
Reggie Wayne
Hakeem Nicks
Miles Austin
DeSean Jackson
Dez Bryant
mr roboto
Footballguy
I would take Nicks over Wallace, Jennings, Wayne (definately) and a coin toss between him and VJax. Wow.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
in my ppr leagues, the WRs have been consistently going as:
Andre, Calvin, Roddy in round 1
Fitz, Nicks, VJax, Jennings in round 2
Wallace, Wayne, Austin in round 3 (sometimes DeSean, Bowe, Welker, Marshall, M.Williams TB sneak into this round)
Obviously, ppr brings up the value of WRs considerably. Nicks is consistently taken in the top 7 WRs.
Andre, Calvin, Roddy in round 1
Fitz, Nicks, VJax, Jennings in round 2
Wallace, Wayne, Austin in round 3 (sometimes DeSean, Bowe, Welker, Marshall, M.Williams TB sneak into this round)
Obviously, ppr brings up the value of WRs considerably. Nicks is consistently taken in the top 7 WRs.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, I dont think Revis was on him the whole time, but I dont see how having him cover Nicks the whole time is really tipping your hand. Play calls might tip your hand, but IMO there isnt so much of a difference between Nicks and Manningham that really dictates Revis staying with Nicks since the NYG's #2 WR is so good.Also, if were talking elite CB and elite WR, I'll take the WR every time. Nicks had a nice preseason game and Eli didnt even look good.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
During a 2nd half interview last week during the PIT-PHI game, Nnamdi say Philly is moving them all around and he's been covering more slot WRs than ever. That's from the horses mouth. I would guess that Philly sees their top 3 CBs talent fairly similar, and thats why, but who knows.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I wouldnt say Im against it, but my draft would have to pan out perfectly to both take Nicks and Mario. If I takes Nicks, Im assuming I take him mid-late 2nd round, meaning my #2 RB hasnt been picked and I likely dont have a Top 6 QB. By the time we get to Round 5 (where Manningham has been going lately in my drafts), Im either looking for a RB3, my starting QB, possibly a TE, and either my WR2 or WR3. I love Manningham this year, but I have a hard time having 2 of my top 3 WRs on the same team. I think Manningham will have a great year, but if Eli struggles, its likely both struggle. Having a QB/WR combo is 1 thing, but having 2 WRs from the same team is another. My money leagues have 2 flexes, so Id almost always be starting both guys every week, and that sounds frustrating to say the least during the down weeks.That said, if Nicks falls to me when I want him (I have him ranked as the #3 WR), Im taking him without the Manningham considerations. As much as I like Mario, I have Britt and Harvin slightly ahead of him, and more often than not, they've surprisingly slipped past Mario. Maybe some guys drafts are different, but Manningham is consistently going as a mid-WR2 in my leagues
T with T
Footballguy
So much for the revis covering him so I can't draft him bs... haha He was all over the place and the Jets didn't know what to do with him.. First its revis, then cromartie, neither of them two guys could handle Nicks... Absolute stud, and could very well be best wr.'Kenny Powers said:
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