Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee Ballot (1 Viewer)

[Eephus]

Post-1943 Ballot: All are on the ballot as players. Living Hall of Famers may vote for up to four. 75% required for induction. **** Allen, 1B-3B, RoY, 1972 MVP, 7 A-S, 351 HR, .292 BA, 156 OPS+ Gil Hodges, 1B, 8 A-S, 3 GG, 370 HR, .273 BA, 120 OPS+ Jim Kaat, P, 283-237, 3 A-S, 16 GG, 1966 TSN AL Pitcher of Year Tony Oliva, RF-DH, RoY,2x 2nd in MVP, 8 A-S, 1 GG, 3 BA Titles, .304 BA, 220 HR, 131 OPS+ Al Oliver, CF-1B, 7 A-S, .303 BA, 219 HR, 121 OPS+ Vada Pinson, CF, 2 A-S, 1 GG, .286 BA, 256 HR, 110 OPS+ Ron Santo, 3B, 9 A-S, .277 BA, 342 HR, 125 OPS+ Luis Tiant, P, 229-172, 3 A-S, 2 ERA Titles Joe Torre, C-1B-3B, 9 A-S, 1 GG, 1971 MVP & BA title, .297 BA, 252 HR, 128 OPS+ Maury Wills, SS, 1962 MVP, 5 A-S, 2 GG, 20 HR, .281 BA, 586 SB, 88 OPS+

Pre-1943 Ballot: All are on the ballot as players. 12-man committee of writers, execs and HOFers may vote for up to four. Nine votes required for induction. Bill Dahlen, SS, 1891-1911, 2457 H, 547 SB, .272 BA, 109 OPS+ Wes Ferrell, P, 1927-1941, 193-128, 2 A-S, 1935 2nd in MVP, 116 ERA+ Joe Gordon, 2B, 1938-1943&1946-1950, 1942 MVP, 9 A-S, 1530 H, .268 BA, 120 OPS+ Sherry Magee, LF, 1904-1919, 2169 H, 441 SB, .291 BA, 136 OPS+ Carl Mays, P, 1915-1929, 207-126, 120 ERA+ Allie Reynolds, P, 1942-1954, 182-107, 110 ERA+, 6 A-S Vern Stephens, SS, 1941-1955, 1859 H, .286 BA, 119 OPS+, 8 A-S Mickey Vernon, 1B, 1939-1943&1946-1960, 2495 H, 172 HR, .286 BA, 116 OPS+, 7 A-S, 2x BA Title Bucky Walters, P, 1931-1950, 6 A-S, 1939 MVP and TrplCrwn, 2x ERA title, 3.30 ERA, 115 ERA+ Deacon White, 3B-C, 1871-1890, 2066 H, .312 BA, 127 OPS+, 2x BA Title

I'd vote for Santo & Torre on the post-war ballot, and Gordon, Magee & Dahlen among the ancients.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Magee and Walters on the ancients, Torre and Allen on the post-war.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Oh Sherry, our love...holds on....holds on.

 

[Sammy3469]

Oh Sherry, our love...holds on....holds on.

 

[Koya]

SantoS and I refresher why **** Allen and that ridiculous OPS+ shouldn't be in. I know every time I take the refresher it reminds me why, but wow. Torre and Oliva are the defination of borderline.

As far as the old guys, Bucky Walters - an ol' fav of mine from the original all time baseball draft. Sherry Magee and I closer look at Vern Stephens, considering the era and his position.

 

[Spartans Rule]

SantoS and I refresher why **** Allen and that ridiculous OPS+ shouldn't be in. I know every time I take the refresher it reminds me why, but wow.

Of all the players I've gained an appreciation for by playing so much WIS, **** Allen is #1 on the list.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

SantoS and I refresher why **** Allen and that ridiculous OPS+ shouldn't be in. I know every time I take the refresher it reminds me why, but wow.

Of all the players I've gained an appreciation for by playing so much WIS, **** Allen is #1 on the list.

Yeah I hope people look back at Trammell when he's up and feel the same. **** Allen should be in, no doubt.

 

[Eephus]

SantoS and I refresher why **** Allen and that ridiculous OPS+ shouldn't be in. I know every time I take the refresher it reminds me why, but wow.

Of all the players I've gained an appreciation for by playing so much WIS, **** Allen is #1 on the list.

Yeah I hope people look back at Trammell when he's up and feel the same. **** Allen should be in, no doubt.

Allen was a Hall of Fame talent but injuries, attitude and the era he played in all work against him.Here's a good article by Craig Wright that discusses Allen's well traveled career and dispels some of the myths of him as a clubhouse cancer.

 

[Sammy3469]

old man must be napping....Joe Gordon gets selected

 

[oso diablo]

HOF press release

Gordon got 10 votes, needing 9. Allie Reynolds was just short, with 8 votes.

For the post-43 ballot, needed 48 votes. Ron Santo got closest with 39. You guys can forget about Richie Allen.

Results of the 2008 Post-1942 Players Ballot (48 votes needed for election): Santo (39 votes, 60.9 percent), Jim Kaat (38, 59.4 percent), Tony Oliva (33, 51.6 percent), Gil Hodges (28, 43.8 percent), Joe Torre (19, 29.7 percent), Maury Wills (15, 23.4 percent), Luis Tiant (13, 20.3 percent), Vada Pinson (12, 18.8 percent), Al Oliver (nine, 14.1 percent), **** Allen (seven, 10.9 percent).

 

[oso diablo]

btw, i would have voted for Wes Ferrell & Joe Gordon for the oldtimers, and for the more recent list: Santo, Kaat, and Torre (guessing he'll get in for managing).

 

[MrPhoenix]

I don't have a problem with Gordon going in. He was a solid performer in his time, although you'll probably have to agree that be benefited from playing at 2B.

 

[Eephus]

Allie Reynolds? I guess 182 wins and a career 1261/1423 BB/SO ratio is good enough if you're an ex-Yankee. If he'd gotten one more vote, he'd be among the least deserving HoFers IMHO.

Congrats to Joe Gordon's family

 

[MrPhoenix]

Congrats to Joe Gordon's family

Do you think Gordon is deserving?

 

[Eephus]

Congrats to Joe Gordon's family

Do you think Gordon is deserving?

He got my vote in post #1

 

[Wrigley]

 

[Limp Ditka]

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[oso diablo]

Allie Reynolds? I guess 182 wins and a career 1261/1423 BB/SO ratio is good enough if you're an ex-Yankee. If he'd gotten one more vote, he'd be among the least deserving HoFers IMHO.

well, Reynolds WAS traded for Hall of Famer Joe Gordon (after Gordon had a stinker of a year upon his return from WW2). Fair to say that his war service cost Gordon 3 seasons - two where he didn't play at all and then that first season back.

 

[Oh Yes!]

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