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the team doesnt pass enough
He has 6 catches on 8 targets.
true but it seems like they are VERY conservative with RG3. alot of conservative, short passes
Not so bad for PPR.
They've taken at least a few, aggressive deep shots downfield every game. It's what Kyle likes to do. And Griffin's attempts have gone up each game through the 1st three weeks. This week will probably end in a similar number to last week (34).That being said, Hankerson's value is still going to be somewhat limited. It will be tied to the competition in snaps he's going to have with Morgan. I don't see either of those guys backing down from trying to earn the #2 spot.
Yup. Looks like he belongs. With Garçon in the lineup I think he's no more than injury or bye material but in deep leagues that alone can present good value. And if garçon is hurt I think he becomes a wr3
Your guess is as good as anyone's. It's been said that the X receiver (Garcon's position) has been the most productive for the Redskins but Hankerson played the Z and got 11 targets. The good thing about Hankerson is that he can play inside or outside so I expect him to get a far share of targets regardless of Garcon.
Where can I get this type of info - snaps and targets?
Awesome, thanks.
I think it'll vary widely from game to game based on what the opposing defense is doing. I think 9 different Redskins caught passes in the last game, and they prefer to run more than they pass. BTW, Garcon, Hankerson, and Morgan are all good run blockers according to the head coach. That won't affect their receptions, just thought I'd throw it in.
whoops, i guess i should've just put this here -- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=661554
I can't figure this one out but obviously there is value to be had in the passing game, who knows how it would have been with Garcon but it sure looked like they had big plans.
Agreed. I added him in a couple of deeper leagues but wish I had grabbed him in a couple of not-so-deep leagues. Will be tougher now
Agreed, like many players do early in the season, Garcon was suffering cramps.
Long time lurker and lifelong Redskins fan. I disagree with you that Hanks TD's had to do with Garcon being out of the game. On his first TD:
Totally thought Seahawks when I read this and, in my mind, I heard Pete Carroll yelling Hoooray!
Well, that's not actually what I said. All I said was Garcon was in and out of the lineup and Hankerson got the bulk of his production in the 4th quarter. The Skins were in 3 or 4-WR sets the entire 4th quarter, so I imagine they were in together on quite a few of those plays.
Sorry, but play-by-plays don't show who was on the field for each play. This video does, and Garcon was in there on the first TD at 5:52. Note the black shoes on Hank, Garcon, and Moss. For the 2nd TD at 6:18, only black shoes I see are Hankerson's. I think it's Robinson, Hankerson, Reed, and Morgan in there on that one.
I think that's mainly because Mike Shanahan does the same with his depth charts. If / when that changes, I'll be the first to pay more attention to Hankerson. But I would suggest Hankerson set his sights on Morgan.
Note the bolded. So Garcon averaged 63.3 yds & 0.4 TDs / game while Hankerson averaged 33.9 yds & 0.18 TDs / game. I know who I'd prefer if I was playing a week-to-week, head-to-head game.
I think this is spot on, unless Hankerson really puts it together or we invest in a seriously talented prospect in the future whose play demands targets. Outside of Garçon, nobody else is going to receive consistent looks.Griffin hit 11 different guys Monday night. 11. He spreads the ball around.
From a guy who's owns him in most of his dynasty teams it was circumstantial. He was on the field a ton and RG3 didnt look his way most of the game. He's a gamble against teams that may have the talent to stop Garçon to me right now. Of course he has the pedigree to make me change my mind in a week or two. I just wouldn't chase him yet in a redraft.
Yep, Griffin usually spreads the ball around. I haven't checked any stats on that, but it sure seems that way. Also, he's not going to throw 49 passes most games.In regards to Hankerson's production the other night, I don't think he was the primary receiver on either TD. Maybe going forward Kyle will calls plays for him, but maybe not.
I'll be excited if he starts catching balls away from his body with his hands, without bobbling them. His concentration is just lacking at this point, and though he's improved, almost every one of his catches seems 50/50 unless it's thrown into his lap. He's gawky and doesn't effectively use his size. He's timid and doesn't run great routes. I like him and he's talented, but as a Skins fan, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he ever lives up to his vast potential. He just doesn't look natural out there.
