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Has anyone ever drafted RB, WR, WR and won? (1 Viewer)

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Just curious if anyone has ever drafted RB, WR, WR in the first 3 rounds of a 12 team league, 1 pt per reception scoring, and been able to win despite not getting that 2nd required starting RB until round 4.

I am thinking about doing it this year (i'm a guy that USED to draft RB,RB,RB religiously) and was hoping someone could share their thoughts drafting this way.

Of course i would only consider this if there was great value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd rond. So far in my new dynasty draft, we are to the 2.3 pick, and only 1 pick has NOT been a RB...

Any success or failure stories?

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This league starting requirements are 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 RB or WR Flex, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K.

 
I won the league I did it in last year. Duece was my first pick...11th spot in a 14 team league. We have to start 3 WR so I went RB, WR, WR, WR...I got lucky with CJ, Caddy, Shockey, Chambers, Brady and Galloway which helped quite a bit and I traded for Portis after his slow start and a few other trades that worked out pretty well, it was by far the the luckiest I haver ever been. Played the right guy each week. Picked the right RB's each week. It averages out though in other leagues I couldn't pick the correct starters to save my life. It was a struggle all year trying to fill my 2 RB spots with injuries and such...would not advise doing it again. I thought there was a lot of depth at RB last year...I found out I was mistaken very quickly. It was especially stupid in a 14 team league. Unless you plan to be very luck with all of the rest of your picks I wouldn't do it...just my 2 cents.

 
positively have and sure it can work ESP. in point per catch leagues..i think its the way to go...even wr/rb/wr or wr/wr/rb maybe..WR's who rack up catch's and yards are killers in these type leagues and you better have one or two if you want any shot at winning it.

 
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I would imagine it has been done plenty of times.

Two of my redraft wins last year were won without taking RB/RB.

Starting QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1PK, 1DT, 1 Flex (RB/WR or TE)

No PPR

One team started out Alexander, Culpepper, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith. My RB2 was Chris Brown taken in the 6th and I added Anderson in the 9th and S Davis in the 14th.

The second team was RB/WR/WR as you stated. Same starting requirements and scoring. I took Holmes, R Moss, Holt with my first three picks. LJ at 5.4 saved my season there.

In a PPR league I think it's a decent strategy if two good receivers are available in rounds two and three. WRs tend to get hurt less than RBs too.

 
Newly formed HyperActive Dynasty League (WCOFF scoring 1ppr), I traded for the 1.5 and took Reggie Bush, then took Chad Johnson and Torry Holt with the 1.11 and 2.4 (had 2.01, but traded down). I then took Cedric Benson in the 3rd round, Heap in the 6th, Bulger 7th, and Dayne in the 8th. I don't know if I'll win, but I guess I have as good of a shot as anyone. Of course everyone thinks they've drafted a great team in May.

 
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i traded up from 1.6 to 1.4 to get Portis with my first pick. I then traded down from 2.7 to 2.9. Guess i just have to see who is still there 5 picks from now...

 
I won a redraft with WR/WR/RB two years ago. Holt/Moss actullay not remembering Rb, but Magahee was a my main Rb down the stretch with Muhammed paying extrme dividends as a last round boring veteran bye week fill-in.

 
The champ in our league won last year with this strategy (yardage lge, .1 point/yrd rec/rush) He drafted 1.1 LT, 2.24 Moss, 3.1 CJ. Moss sucked, but with his 12th pick drafted FWP and 14th pick Santana Moss.

Bottom line - you have to draft well late to win.

 
I won using a similar stategy two years ago drafting at the 12 spot in two leagues. Went WR/WR/RB/RB/RB/RB/QB in both and won both. Waiver wire work for RB's was critical as I got both LJ and Julius later in the year that did well for me. Also got on a hot run with Volek putting up huge numbers at QB. Went Moss/Harrison in both as WR and got so help off WW.

 
You can win it easily but you HAVE TO nail the WR picks. Makes it harder to do.
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Yeah, I agree with this to a certain degree. In the days of Moss, Harrison, Owens and Holt as your top 4 with a big drop after those guys. If you could snag two of them, you were practically guaranteed 2 of the top 4 WR's. I don't see as big of a drop between the first and second tier this year, so there are more top WR's, and more chances to miss on one (R. Moss/TO last year).I think more importantly is what RB's are you targeting in rounds 4-8. I bet many who have won using a RB/WR/WR strategy got good production from a RB picked in rounds 4-8. LJ, FWP, T.Jones from last year to name a few.

 
I have utilized this strategy and won. And I have utilized this strategy and lost. For example, I went with Moss and Owens last year and tanked.

As a whole, I think it is much easier to land a Top 10 WR in mid to late rounds but pretty unlikely to land a Top 10 RB in the mid to late rounds baring a major injury. Not saying it can't happen, but I think the odds are slim.

Last year, I was fortunate enough to target (and land) Glenn, Galloway, and Kennison (but missed out on SMoss) and was set at WR at a cheap investment.

Not saying RB-WR-WR can't work (as I've done it and won), but it does make filling out your roster challenging.

 
A guy in a league of mine (want to say 2003) won with Anthony Thomas and Mike Alstott as his starting RB's went 15-1. Thomas I believe went for 1000, but wasn't impressive at all. Alstott did absolutely nothing. The guy checked his roster maybe once every 4 weeks. The other 15 of us in the league were terribly frustrated (as most of us checked daily)

He had Holt, Owens, Moss and S.Smith as his 4 WR set. .5 ppr for WR; .75 for TE.

 
I tried this strategy last year in my big $ league. I somewhat agree that you have to nail the #2 and #3 Wr positions for it to be effective. 14 team league, no points per reception, performance/scoring league. I took CJ in late second round instead of L. Jordan. Then early in the 3rd got Javon Walker. I think I could have been a real contender if Walker had not been injured early. I managed to fill in decently at #2 RB by about mid season and squeak in to the playoffs. But got knocked off easy by the #1 seed. Too many losses at the beginning of the season. Looking back I should have taken Jordan but I was determined to try the 2 stud WR strategy.

 
Just curious if anyone has ever drafted RB, WR, WR in the first 3 rounds of a 12 team league, 1 pt per reception scoring, and been able to win despite not getting that 2nd required starting RB until round 4.

I am thinking about doing it this year (i'm a guy that USED to draft RB,RB,RB religiously) and was hoping someone could share their thoughts drafting this way.

Of course i would only consider this if there was great value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd rond. So far in my new dynasty draft, we are to the 2.3 pick, and only 1 pick has NOT been a RB...

Any success or failure stories?

:popcorn:

This league starting requirements are 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 RB or WR Flex, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K.
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I played in Rotobowl last year, a national high stakes league. WCOFF scoring, so matches the PPR rule.My draft went like this:

1.10 10 Brian Westbrook (PHI - RB)

2.03 15 Torry Holt (STL - WR)

3.10 34 Tony Gonzalez (KCC - TE)

4.03 39 Warrick Dunn (ATL - RB)

5.10 58 Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR)

6.03 63 Rod Smith (DEN - WR)

7.10 82 Kerry Collins (OAK - QB)

8.03 87 Eddie Kennison (KCC - WR)

9.10 106 Michael Pittman (TBB - RB)

10.03 111 Jerome Bettis (PIT - RB)

11.10 130 New England Patriots (NEP - TM)

12.03 135 Drew Brees (SDC - QB)

13.10 154 David Givens (NEP - WR)

14.03 159 Ryan Moats (PHI - RB)

15.10 178 Cincinnati Bengals (CIN - TM)

16.03 183 Matt Stover (BAL - K)

17.10 202 Shawn Bryson (DET - RB)

18.03 207 Darius Watts (DEN - WR)

19.10 226 Paul Edinger (MIN - K)

20.03 231 Mark Campbell (BUF - TE)
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So I went RB,WR,TE,RB,WR,WR,QB,WR,RB,RB to start. Steals in Round 12 (Brees) and 15 (Bengals), pretty well stunk it up in the last 4 picks, but oh well.

Team went 12-4. Won my league. Finished second overall - of ALL teams - 2nd of 168 franchises.

So yes, you can sleep on RB2 and get away with it.

NOTE: This league had start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, and 2 flex (RB/WR/TE). Often went with WR/TE at flex.

(Looking back I got lucky on health until Westy went down. WW add of JWells helped late, and WW fixed the last 4 roster spots. Also I went too early to KCollins at QB probably).

HTH.

 
I played in 21 money leagues last year. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D, and no points per reception. Most were drafted with the RB, WR, WR or RB, WR, TE. I won most of my leagues. The second RB sounds strong but in reality you become mediocre.

 
This can be a very solid strategy, especially if you are drafting in the 1, 2, or 3 spots in a 12 person draft. Also, it depends on starters, so this would be even more favorable if it is start 3 WR with 1 ppr. Why reach for a RB2 if the RBs have been flying off the board when you can get 2 of the best WRs in the draft? If your rules allow you to work the waiver wire during the season, you can still scrape some production out of your RB2 even if none of your lower RB picks pan out.

 
I've done it and I'm sure plenty of other people have done it as well. In truth, you can win with just about any strategy (if you take a kicker or defense early you're probably going to lose though).

The better question is, what are the positives and negatives of using such a strategy.

The positive is that you can usually get great value with those WR picks and really dominate that position. The negative is that WRs are not as consistent scorers as RBs usually so your scoring may be more up and down. It also makes it imperative that you take a #3 RB much earlier IMO.

Either way, I never lock myself into a strategy before I draft. I take what comes to me in the draft. If that means I draft RB/RB/RB then I'll do it. If it means RB/WR/WR I'll do that too. You do have to be ok with knowing that if you go RB heavy you'll probably be more consistent but not have some of the super high scores, but if you go WR heavy you'll be less consistent but have a bunch of really high scores.

 
I've done it and I'm sure plenty of other people have done it as well. In truth, you can win with just about any strategy (if you take a kicker or defense early you're probably going to lose though).

The better question is, what are the positives and negatives of using such a strategy.

The positive is that you can usually get great value with those WR picks and really dominate that position. The negative is that WRs are not as consistent scorers as RBs usually so your scoring may be more up and down. It also makes it imperative that you take a #3 RB much earlier IMO.

Either way, I never lock myself into a strategy before I draft. I take what comes to me in the draft. If that means I draft RB/RB/RB then I'll do it. If it means RB/WR/WR I'll do that too. You do have to be ok with knowing that if you go RB heavy you'll probably be more consistent but not have some of the super high scores, but if you go WR heavy you'll be less consistent but have a bunch of really high scores.
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Adding to this is the tradeoff:If you go RB-WR-WR, obviously RB2 is going to suffer.

So ask yourself, is it better to have a solid WR1 and WR2 and a weaker RB2, or is it better to have a good RB2 and weaker WR1 and WR2 as a result?

Look at the point productions at each and decide what the tradeoff is for each strategy.

For example, if you figure the values per round are:

Round 2 - WR 18, RB 14 ppg

Round 3 - WR 14, RB 11 ppg

Round 4 - WR 11, RB 9 ppg

If you go WR, WR, RB you get 18+14+9 = 41

If you go WR, RB, WR you get 18+11+11 = 40

If you go RB, WR, WR you get 14+14+11 = 39

Obviously you'd take 41 over 40 over 39.

These numbers are close to a valid calculation, but you need to figure out the values for PPG per round. I hope you get the idea.

 
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In a 16 team redraft from the 1.01 slot, I had a team/draft that I loved and worked out well:

1.01 LT

2.16 Wayne (underperformed)

3.01 Walker (injured first week)

4.16 Carson Palmer

5.01 Thomas Jones

I was saved by picking up Engram and Jurevicius from the Waiver Wire and drafting Cooley as my TE in 8th round. This team had a 20% total points edge on the second highest, only to lose in SB.

But, as drafts go, I came away ecstatic and would take that draft again.

 
I thought I had a good chance with a team last year by starting with 3 WRs in a 12 teamer, but got pasted and missed the playoffs. My starting lineup looked good on paper, but totally crumpled:

QB: Donovan McNabb

WR: Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Joe Horn

RB: Rudi Johnson, Kevin Jones

I was not happy.

 
I have tried the 2WR/ 1 RB approach in some combination with pretty good results, i think it works best if you pick first or last in the first round (assuming 1-12; 12-1 in alternating rounds). It puts you ahead of the runs on WRs, and if you do your homework on RBs you can find a few later that may have value in your league

 
I've done it and I'm sure plenty of other people have done it as well. In truth, you can win with just about any strategy (if you take a kicker or defense early you're probably going to lose though).

The better question is, what are the positives and negatives of using such a strategy.

The positive is that you can usually get great value with those WR picks and really dominate that position. The negative is that WRs are not as consistent scorers as RBs usually so your scoring may be more up and down. It also makes it imperative that you take a #3 RB much earlier IMO.

Either way, I never lock myself into a strategy before I draft. I take what comes to me in the draft. If that means I draft RB/RB/RB then I'll do it. If it means RB/WR/WR I'll do that too. You do have to be ok with knowing that if you go RB heavy you'll probably be more consistent but not have some of the super high scores, but if you go WR heavy you'll be less consistent but have a bunch of really high scores.
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Adding to this is the tradeoff:If you go RB-WR-WR, obviously RB2 is going to suffer.

So ask yourself, is it better to have a solid WR1 and WR2 and a weaker RB2, or is it better to have a good RB2 and weaker WR1 and WR2 as a result?

Look at the point productions at each and decide what the tradeoff is for each strategy.

For example, if you figure the values per round are:

Round 2 - WR 18, RB 14 ppg

Round 3 - WR 14, RB 11 ppg

Round 4 - WR 11, RB 9 ppg

If you go WR, WR, RB you get 18+14+9 = 41

If you go WR, RB, WR you get 18+11+11 = 40

If you go RB, WR, WR you get 14+14+11 = 39

Obviously you'd take 41 over 40 over 39.

These numbers are close to a valid calculation, but you need to figure out the values for PPG per round. I hope you get the idea.
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I like the numbers but the thinking (for this strategy) has now just started. What position is easiest to fill as the season …turns? Since the RB position has the most injuries, that position is the odds on favorite to help you out later.
 
I drafted WR-WR-RB in the 1st year of my dynasy league and won. Also had 1 point per reception. It was 10 teams, though.

 
I won in a similar league last year with:

1 - P Holmes

2 - C Johnson

3 - T Owens

4 - W Dunn

5 - M Moore

6 - C Brown

7 - TJ Duckett

8 - E Kennison

9 - J Plummer

I dominated early. When Priest went down I still had to steady backs. When Owens went out I had to hit the wire for WR help.

 
I am thoroughly convinced that you can win with just about ANY combination starting off in a draft. It's all in who you draft, how lucky you are with injuries, etc. A LOT of variables play into fantasy football each year...

 
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