Have you (will you) alter your plans based on shootings/terror attacks (1 Viewer)

[comfortably numb]

After Paris I was surprised to hear a few friends that changed their plans here because they didn't want to be in a public setting with large amount of people.

(shows in NYC) (marathon in Philly)

Have you or will you change any of your plans?

Perhaps avoid a big city?

Did you hesitate going to movie theaters after the Colo shooting?

Change vacation plans to avoid European cities?

My wife has made comments about not wanting to go into NYC recently...just curious what the general thoughts are here

 

[belljr]

Short answer Yes.

Haven't really changed plans but I have hesitated when my wife talks of doing things.

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

 

[Sabertooth]

We live in a paranoid world.

 

[fred_1_15301]

A. No more planes

B. No more buses

C. No more big cities

D. No more metros

E. No more work parties

F. No more movies

G. My kid will be home schooled when he's old enough

H. Probably just quit my job

In all seriousness, I don't plan on changing how I live my life because of a few ####ers in this world. There is still a lot of good.

 

[Swing 51]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

 

[Arizona Ron]

I live and work in DC and fly/drive to major cities all year long. I even took the metro to an NFL game a few days after Paris.

I refuse to let them win. I will not live in fear.

 

[Gachi]

When I went to the movies last week, the movie theater was almost filled to capacity. It did briefly cross my mind "what if someone started shooting, would I even make it out alive?"

But then I realized that I have a greater chance of dying from an aneurysm, heart attack, kidney disease, car accident, or HIV/AIDS than I do from a mass shooting.

 

[jamny]

No

I work all around Manhattan, today I'm in the Wall St. area, tomorrow in midtown. Take the buses and subways all over the city. I work in corporate events and do find myself making a note of exits points at various locations. I generally don't know most of the people I'm with on any given day so who knows what they're capable of.

We are going to Sicily in June and my wife is a bit concerned about a beachfront resort attack like what happened not long ago. Not enough to change plans though.

Live your life like you always have. It's too short to worry about things that you have no control over.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Of course not. Randomness is all around. No reason to live in fear of it.

 

[Max Power]

Not really day to day activity, but I've decided to move somewhere pretty remote when I retire. I think in 15 years from now, the world we be in a worse place.

 

[MattFancy]

Actually, yes. Wife and I were supposed to go to NYC next weekend for the day. Decided against it.

 

[MAC_32]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

"They" who?

 

[MAC_32]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

"They" who?

Serious, Clark?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

"They" who?

Serious, Clark?

Yes

 

[MAC_32]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

"They" who?

Serious, Clark?

Yes

Those who wish to reak havoc. I haven't changed anything I do nor do I intend to. Living in fear is no way to live.

 

[ATC1]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No, if we leave in fear then they win.

"They" who?

Serious, Clark?

Yes

Those who wish to reak havoc. I haven't changed anything I do nor do I intend to. Living in fear is no way to live.

Well that's good. But I don't believe those wishing to wreak havoc are thinking in terms of winning or losing.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Yes and no. Will I not shop this Christmas season? Of course not. Will I avoid the Mall of America? Yes. I wont make huge changes, but something like this is simple.

 

[belljr]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

What if the theater would not allow you to bring it in after a search

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I discouraged my wife and daughter from attending the premiere showing of the final hunger games movie. They went the next day with my blessing.

 

[jonessed]

No.

 

[Scoresman]

Heading to Paris AND Brussels this March. It's like we're taking the 2015 European Jihad Tour.

Still going.

 

[Sabertooth]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

You are more likely to die from a falling meteor.

 

[Fennis]

Leaving for Amsterdam tomorrow, it makes me nervous but I am hoping the drugs and prostitutes calm me down.

 

[FUBAR]

won't alter plans but am strongly considering getting a concealed carry permit.

 

[tom22406]

Not for a second

 

[Sabertooth]

Not just considering? Strongly considering? What's stopping you?

 

[sbonomo]

No.

 

[Northern Voice]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

So why don't the same people who aren't going to the movies, buying guns, etc... handing in their driving license and selling their cars? Media? Unable to understand statistics/probability? Misguided belief that they are in more control of randomness around them in a vehicle?

 

[comfortably numb]

I haven't altered plans but will say I am more attentive to surroundings.

Just generally watching peoples activities and just mentally preparing that something could happen any given day.

Not sure why...i'd probably faint if something went down.

I grew up in a city where you seemingly always watched your back and kept an eye on people that looked like they were up to no good.

So in some ways I have reverted to that behavior from time to time when I am out.

 

[Brony]

Never really worried about terrorist attack but now I'm paranoid about aneurysms and heart attacks thanks to this thread. Nice job ###hole!

 

[MikeIke]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

I'm thinking of having my wife (who has a CCW permit) bring her gun to the Star Wars premier. I'm apprehensive about another Aurora-type situation when that comes out.

 

[comfortably numb]

Never really worried about terrorist attack but now I'm paranoid about aneurysms and heart attacks thanks to this thread. Nice job ###hole!

LMAO

 

[Mad Cow]

Have had a CCW for a couple of years, only carried twice. Am thinking I will do so more frequently.

 

[FUBAR]

Not just considering? Strongly considering? What's stopping you?

"strongly" might be overkill but it's a thought. We aren't allowed to bring them to work (how's that for irony?) and I don't wear anything more than I have to - meaning the only jewelry I ever wear is my wedding ring and I don't accessorize at all, it would be one more thing to carry off work. And frankly the risk isn't high.

 

[FUBAR]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

that's just situational awareness, always a good thing.

 

[ATC1]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

What if the theater would not allow you to bring it in after a search

Go to another theater. I don't remember how many movie theaters were in between the colorado movie shooter's house, but it certainly wasn't the closest. The location he choose did not allow people to carry firearms. Coinsidence? Maybe, but I would think that is what they want, easy targets with little resistance.

I will also say that I think the movie theater is the worst place to be able to defend yourself while carrying. I'm not sure there are many scenerios where I would pull my gun in a movie theater shooting. Too dark and a lot of people probably running around confused.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

Like at least 100x more likely. Probably more.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

won't alter plans but am strongly considering getting a concealed carry permit.

Perhaps consider this.

http://blog.dupontregistry.com/the-lifestyle/gear/the-x-shirt-amendment-ii/

Returning fire may be emotionally satisfying and or practical in some circumstances, but then so would not being as severely injured in an initial, and unanticipated hail of gunfire.

 

[cstu]

I don't go to the black part of town because of the videos I've seen online.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Yes and no. Will I not shop this Christmas season? Of course not. Will I avoid the Mall of America? Yes. I wont make huge changes, but something like this is simple.

Avoiding Mall of America is sensible. Doing so because of concerns about terrorism or mass shootings isn't.

You are batting 0.500.

 

[Cjw_55106]

I conceal carry and not just because I can. I always sit facing the exit at resturants and make a point to get familiar with my surroundings.

I used to avoid going to movies in the 1st weekend to avoid crowds and I can see avoiding them now as a "just in case". Movie theaters I feel the most vunurable in. I always notice where the exits are and can see a major problem if there happens to be a fire or active shooter.

What if the theater would not allow you to bring it in after a search

Go to another theater. I don't remember how many movie theaters were in between the colorado movie shooter's house, but it certainly wasn't the closest. The location he choose did not allow people to carry firearms. Coinsidence? Maybe, but I would think that is what they want, easy targets with little resistance.

I will also say that I think the movie theater is the worst place to be able to defend yourself while carrying. I'm not sure there are many scenerios where I would pull my gun in a movie theater shooting. Too dark and a lot of people probably running around confused.

Yes and no. Will I not shop this Christmas season? Of course not. Will I avoid the Mall of America? Yes. I wont make huge changes, but something like this is simple.

Avoiding Mall of America is sensible. Doing so because of concerns about terrorism or mass shootings isn't.

You are batting 0.500.

Fair enough.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Not at all

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I guess I can kind of understand the paranoia right after something happens, but I don't really get it long-term other than irrational fear.

For instance, the movie theater thing above. Even if you knew with 100% certainty that there were going to be a theater shooting on the day you're going to the movies that would still put your odds of dying at about 1 in 300,000 if you went to the movies that day. You're probably more likely to die on the car ride there and there is a 1 in 77 chance you'll die in a car accident at some point in your lifetime.

I was in NYC during the Paris thing and while it crossed my mind, it's not like I was itching to get out of town or anything. Again, even if you knew that there were going to be a similar sized attack in NYC the day you're there you're still talking about 120 people in a city of 8.4 million or a 0.00014% chance it's you. Meanwhile, 169 people die every day in NYC and people haven't quit visiting because of that.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

Like at least 100x more likely. Probably more.

Way, way, way, way, way, way more than 100x more likely.

 

[GoFishTN]

You're more likely to die in your bathtub than one of these shootings. So, no.

 

[comfortably numb]

You're more likely to die in your bathtub than one of these shootings. So, no.

Stop taking baths?

 

[siffoin]

won't alter plans but am strongly considering getting a concealed carry permit.

Idaho is an open carry state. Since summer I've seen 3 people open carrying handguns. 1 on a public beach. 1 at Smashburger. 1 on a par 3 golf course - a course for kids and beginners (yes some guy wearing golf shorts and a holstered weapon around his waist with a Barkleyesque swing). My general assessment of these 3 people has been: if the SHTF these 3 would be the LAST I'd want to provide "protection". God knows how many people are concealed carrying in the State - I feel less safe that they do - not more.

The odds of being within a 10 mile radius of an "event" going down are miniscule- less than that. If people really want to protect themselves and others for the public good they'd be better off turning their cell phone off and placing it in their trunk every time they get in a car vs. carrying a handgun in public. You want a gun to protect your home - I'm 1000% for it. You want a gun to protect yourself, me or my kid while we're playing golf - no thanks.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Everytime I go into the movies I think about it.

This isn't a bad thing IMO. Always makes sense to know where the exit points are in a movie theater, club, restaurant, etc - especially if you have/are with your family.

Although you are still more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the event than in a mass shooting/terrorist incident.

Like at least 100x more likely. Probably more.

Way, way, way, way, way, way more than 100x more likely.

I know. I sent off that post before I thought about the numbers much. I still haven't done any real calculations and I suspect it is a minimum of 10,000x more likely.