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Hawk = BOD (1 Viewer)

The BOD of the 2006 class would have to Vince Young at #3 or Leinart at #10.
Vince Young is a two-time Pro Bowler. That may or may not be deserved, but it certainly disqualifies him from being the bust of the draft.
Is he a franchise QB? No...and QBs drafted at #3 are expected to be franchise QBs.
I'm not saying it was a successful pick, just that he's been way better than the "bust of the draft." How about Tye Hill, the #15 pick, who's already been released by three teams? Or Bobby Carpenter, #18 overall, who hasn't started a game in his career. Or John McCargo, #26 overall, who has never been healthy enough to start, and had a trade to the Colts voided because he failed the physical.
 
The BOD of the 2006 class would have to Vince Young at #3 or Leinart at #10.
Vince Young is a two-time Pro Bowler. That may or may not be deserved, but it certainly disqualifies him from being the bust of the draft.
Is he a franchise QB? No...and QBs drafted at #3 are expected to be franchise QBs.
I'm not saying it was a successful pick, just that he's been way better than the "bust of the draft."
For the 100th time, BOD was clearly a bit of panache.Hawk is overrated, always has been...if your a white, flamboyant linebacker coming out of Ohio St., odds are that you are coming out overrated...the media and the sheep that follow the media pretty much guarantee it.
 
The BOD of the 2006 class would have to Vince Young at #3 or Leinart at #10.
Vince Young is a two-time Pro Bowler. That may or may not be deserved, but it certainly disqualifies him from being the bust of the draft.
Is he a franchise QB? No...and QBs drafted at #3 are expected to be franchise QBs.
I'm not saying it was a successful pick, just that he's been way better than the "bust of the draft."
For the 100th time, BOD was clearly a bit of panache.Hawk is overrated, always has been...if your a white, flamboyant linebacker coming out of Ohio St., odds are that you are coming out overrated...the media and the sheep that follow the media pretty much guarantee it.
I know the bus is short in the Pac-12 second division, but you might try noticing that I'm talking about Vince Young, not AJ Hawk. Although if I were talking about Hawk, I might have to point out that he's done better than Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart, both of whom you characterized as "as can't miss as they come."
 
LHUCKS said:
CalBear said:
I know the bus is short in the Pac-12 second division, but you might try noticing that I'm talking about Vince Young, not AJ Hawk.
oops, my bad.
Yet you don't say "my bad" about this:
CalBear said:
Although if I were talking about Hawk, I might have to point out that he's done better than Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart, both of whom you characterized as "as can't miss as they come."
Wow Lhucks, thanks for being so intellectually honest. What a ####.
 
LHUCKS said:
CalBear said:
Eric Stratton said:
CalBear said:
Eric Stratton said:
The BOD of the 2006 class would have to Vince Young at #3 or Leinart at #10.
Vince Young is a two-time Pro Bowler. That may or may not be deserved, but it certainly disqualifies him from being the bust of the draft.
Is he a franchise QB? No...and QBs drafted at #3 are expected to be franchise QBs.
I'm not saying it was a successful pick, just that he's been way better than the "bust of the draft."
For the 100th time, BOD was clearly a bit of panache.Hawk is overrated, always has been...if your a white, flamboyant linebacker coming out of Ohio St., odds are that you are coming out overrated...the media and the sheep that follow the media pretty much guarantee it.
Only he is not overrated.
 
LHUCKS said:
Like I've said all along...great white hype.Another bold prediction by me that delivers....take notes boys.
So how is that Leinart pick working out for you, Hucks :excited:
TBD
:confused:So a starting LB on a championship is a disappointment, but yet a THIRD string QB that couldn't beat out Max Hall, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Dan Orlovsky isn't. Cutler > Leinart
 
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LHUCKS said:
Like I've said all along...great white hype.Another bold prediction by me that delivers....take notes boys.
So how is that Leinart pick working out for you, Hucks :thumbdown:
TBD
:thumbdown:So a starting LB on a championship is a disappointment, but yet a THIRD string QB that couldn't beat out Max Hall, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Dan Orlovsky isn't. Cutler > Leinart
Starting LB who has never missed a game and has led his team in tackles or been 2nd every year...calling the plays on D and has the trust and respect of his coaches and teammates.
 
Like I've said all along...great white hype.Another bold prediction by me that delivers....take notes boys.
So how is that Leinart pick working out for you, Hucks :confused:
TBD
I've stated several times in the shark pool that Leinart is on the verge of being one of the best five QBs in the game. Bush, was doing pretty much what I expected him to do, although I'm surprised at how good the N.O. offense has been...I thought they had a lot of risks heading into the seaon as a whole.Vernon Davis is a stud, and is probably one of my top buy low candidates right now...his stats are incredibly misleading.
:coffee:How is that even close to TBD...
 
Like I've said all along...great white hype.Another bold prediction by me that delivers....take notes boys.
So how is that Leinart pick working out for you, Hucks :confused:
TBD
I've stated several times in the shark pool that Leinart is on the verge of being one of the best five QBs in the game. Bush, was doing pretty much what I expected him to do, although I'm surprised at how good the N.O. offense has been...I thought they had a lot of risks heading into the seaon as a whole.Vernon Davis is a stud, and is probably one of my top buy low candidates right now...his stats are incredibly misleading.
:coffee:How is that even close to TBD...
Where's LHUCKS to tell us how good Leinart is?
 
I would not be surprised if Leinart wakes up and has a late career resurrection, like so many QBs before him have.

Talent is not the issue.

 
'LHUCKS said:
I would not be surprised if Leinart wakes up and has a late career resurrection, like so many QBs before him have.Talent is not the issue.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Good shtick mang.Most QBs that wake up late show at least something early.
 
'LHUCKS said:
I would not be surprised if Leinart wakes up and has a late career resurrection, like so many QBs before him have.Talent is not the issue.
Ah yes, the next logical step of the can't miss prospect.
 
'LHUCKS said:
I would not be surprised if Leinart wakes up and has a late career resurrection, like so many QBs before him have.Talent is not the issue.
Talent wasn't an issue. 3 new QB's to the offense, Max Hall, Derek Anderson, and John Skelton were. Let us know when his career begins. :coffee:
 
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There were a ton of "Hawk-like" picks last night. Guys that are solid NFL talents, will be solid members of their squad...but had no business being drafted in first round. First round is where you swing for the fences and go for a superstar. Not where you draft a defensive lineman that will get 5 sacks a year and defend the run well.

 
There were a ton of "Hawk-like" picks last night. Guys that are solid NFL talents, will be solid members of their squad...but had no business being drafted in first round. First round is where you swing for the fences and go for a superstar. Not where you draft a defensive lineman that will get 5 sacks a year and defend the run well.
:goodposting:
 
There were a ton of "Hawk-like" picks last night. Guys that are solid NFL talents, will be solid members of their squad...but had no business being drafted in first round. First round is where you swing for the fences and go for a superstar. Not where you draft a defensive lineman that will get 5 sacks a year and defend the run well.
:goodposting:
Really?Swing for the fences seems like a great way to get a GM fired.How many of those swing for the fences picks just don't work out and set franchises back?BTW...Hawk has a nice new contract and a super bowl ring.Matt...might as well be out of football.Reggie...just got replaced the other night (though, he has a ring too).Which one is the bust of the draft again?
 
Hawk has not shown himself to be worthy of his draft status. But clearly not a bust - imagine that, LWRONG strikes again. The Pack thought of him as an allstar pre draft, and instead just got a solid nfl starter. The Pack did better than a lot of other teams that year.

And few teams "swing for the fences" in the first round. Otherwise Mallett would of been a first round pick this year. Because talent wise, he was the best qb available.

 
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A few things

1. How much are you really going out on a limb to predict a LB is going to be a bust.

2. AJ Hawk is getting a HUGE job on that LB corp, why, cause he is better than average, but not elite.

3. If you are waiting on Leinart to be a "late bloomer" you don't know jack about football....and i got some news for you....talent HAS been questionable. Product of the USC system, Mark Sanchez was also over drafted cause of this.

4. To even mention that a LB is hyped due to being white, pretty much again....makes you know jack about football. Football is not a game of black and whites anymore....any race can play any position and be elite, which has always been the case, but not the practice.

5. WOW to this thread

 

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