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HBO Series "The Night Of" (2 Viewers)

jamny said:
Glad it's over. Would not recommend.

Best part was the cat at the end.
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:catlivesmatter:

ETA: Just went on Twitter. The cat shtick is on point, more posts about the cat than the show itself :lmao:

 
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Compared to the other #### that is on TV, I guess this show was above average. Lots of good performances and interesting characters, but the silly nonsense like the female lawyer's stupid decisions, Stone chasing potential murders through alleys and Nas' ridiculous descent into Rikers life really ruined a lot of it.

Had very high hopes after the first episode but was ultimately  disappointed. Not upset that I stuck it out, but wouldn't recommend it to others.

 
Anyone else recognize Gordon from Sesame Street as foreman of the hung jury?

Westworld looks pretty good.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I wouldn't say that, but Chandra's emotionally entangled in the case, she relates to what he's been through, he's abandoned, alone, about to give up, his own mother just turned on him. If you think about it Chandra needed to do that to keep his head and heart in the trial. It's making more sense to me that way, that it was more a kiss of comforting and compassion than passion.
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Turns out it was just an absurd plot device, to put Stone in position to deliver the closing argument.

 
Any defense lawyer that thinks its a good idea to put a murder suspect on the stand should be disbarred.

While there was a lot of good stuff in the series, the howlingly, jaw-droppingly, eye-rollingly bad stuff WAY outweighed it.

Be a good person and do not recommend this to anyone.

 
Yea. That wasn't very good. Too many contrived plot devices. It was an OK void filler for Sunday nights after GoT ended. I do think this would have worked better as an HBO Original movie. There was just so much filler that had no purpose that often delved into the absurd. That creepy serial killer limo driver, for example - what was the point? Could have used less of the foot eczema. I was actually hoping there would be a cool gotcha moment that tied in the eczema. The show runners said in an interview they were focusing on it so much because it would become an important storyline in episode 8. Turns out it was just jacked up feet. 

 
The D.A. lady had the best acting in the show tonight imo.  She was really good.  I liked the series.

 
You know when actors say they don't really know how something will turn out.  You think, "yeah right, you have an idea."

This is a perfect example.

HBO.  John Turturro.  Should be good right?

This show made my skin crawl.  It's bad in every way possible.

If you enjoyed this I don't know what to say.

It's the worst HBO mini-series ever made by far.  

Olive Kitteridge was hard to watch but at least it was shorter and not a crumby procedural that wouldn't make it on an Law and Order episode.  

Naz didn't do it, I guess, but I still wanted his punk ### to go down.

This was not HBO worthy.  Embarrassing.  At least True Detective season 2 has McAdams's ###.

 
Daywalker said:
You know when actors say they don't really know how something will turn out.  You think, "yeah right, you have an idea."

This is a perfect example.

HBO.  John Turturro.  Should be good right?

This show made my skin crawl.  It's bad in every way possible.

If you enjoyed this I don't know what to say.

It's the worst HBO mini-series ever made by far.  

Olive Kitteridge was hard to watch but at least it was shorter and not a crumby procedural that wouldn't make it on an Law and Order episode.  

Naz didn't do it, I guess, but I still wanted his punk ### to go down.

This was not HBO worthy.  Embarrassing.  At least True Detective season 2 has McAdams's ###.
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It wasn't great but it was nowhere as awful as you make it sound either 

 
Solid B. 

Good acting, enough twists to keep things interesting, and enough shades of gray to make you care. How many shows can legitimately have you guessing who committed the crime until well into the finale?

Theres legit issues as well.  The love subplot with Chandra, the terrible investigating (not knowing who owned the house, apparently not knowing she had $300k taken from her, etc...) to make me not love it. 

Bottom line: I was entertained, but way too many issues to call it great. 

 
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The biggest thriller last night was anticipating Naz getting shanked on his way out the door.

I liked episode 1. 

I liked Det. Box.

I liked the scene with Det. Box with the suspected killer at the bar.

I liked the DA character.

Looking back, any scene that had a judge, was really great.

I liked Stone throughout the series, and specifically I liked Stone's closing argument.

Everything else sucked.

 
Is a defense team allowed to basically accuse other people of a crime on the stand as part of their defense strategy?

 
:yawn:

It felt like the show had better potential than it delivered.

At the end of the show, I did not really care what happened to any of the characters.  So, it seems as though there was a disconnect somewhere. Naz - one of the things I did not like was his reverting to "deer-in-headlights" mode when on the stand.  I get that they wanted to toughen him up at Rikers, and make him a changed man - but then it made no sense for him to suddenly be soft Naz - even while drugged up.  

I will say this, my favorite part of the series was the first episode, where I thought they did a great job building the tension leading to his arrest.  Even though you knew it was coming, it had me on the edge of my seat waiting to see if he could get away.  Last night came close - as Naz was leaving Rikers I kept waiting for him to do something - assault an officer, get caught with drugs, etc. that would keep him in Rikers.  But, alas, no payoff.  Naz certainly felt like he was more at home in Rikers than in his real home.

The verdict was particularly un-fulfilling.  In a 1-season series, we should have had more finality than that.

Not sure how we are supposed to feel about the prosecutor or Detective Box.  Sure, Box went the extra yard looking at more evidence, and took it to the prosecutor.  And, I get that the prosecutor could legitimately claim she thought she had a better case against Naz - but at that point, it seems there is a duty to turn over potentially exculpatory evidence to the defense.  So, do we feel bad for Naz because the system was against him from the start?  I don't know, at the end, I just did not feel sympathetic towards Naz. :shrug:

Stone was a great character, and I think they should have taken the British series and built an American series around him.  Just a classic grinding his way through life kind of guy.

So, no payoff on the deer's head - dumb editing to have focused on that given that it had nothing to do with the plot - not even a red herring.  Ditto the cat.  Kept waiting for the cat to disclose some kind of "aha" moment where it did something or coughed up something that led Stone to the right killer.  Ditto the eczema - I liked that it helped define Stone - but since this was not a show about Stone, I was waiting for it to lead somewhere, but nothing.  A lot of dead ends in this show.

 
I agree with those who didn't care for it. I did like the acting for the most part.

But this was an average series at best. Slightly better than TD2.

 
Payne said:
I agree with those who didn't care for it. I did like the acting for the most part.

But this was an average series at best. Slightly better than TD2.
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At least I made it through this, although it helped that it was only 8 episodes. I didn't even finish TD2.

 
Walking Boot said:
Didn't really care for the redemption of Box. Would have rather seen him go out a hard-a##
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I  liked it, seemed right in character for him. 

"I have this info that this guy did it and not Nas" 

"We have more on the kid"

*packs up, walks oot without saying a word.*  the DA new she messed up right there 

 
I thought it was good overall but I am more even keeled than most.   I wasn't over the moon for it at the beginning nor utterly disappointed in last night's episode.   It was entertaining to me in the end and that is what matters most IMO.

 
Walking Boot said:
I dunno, I'm starting to change my mind on this. I mean, instruct the jury all you want, every "Serial" or "The Staircase" or whatever I've seen that talked to real jurors, they always say they take it into consideration and it makes them feel the suspect is guilty even more. 
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Him saying he didn't know if he did it helped him. She had no way of knowing how putting him on the stand would shake out, so that was pretty much a hail mary. It worked. That said, she is obviously a bit of a hot mess what with the kiss and running dope into prison to keep her client from being dopesick on the stand. :lmao:

 
Walking Boot said:
I dunno, I'm starting to change my mind on this. I mean, instruct the jury all you want, every "Serial" or "The Staircase" or whatever I've seen that talked to real jurors, they always say they take it into consideration and it makes them feel the suspect is guilty even more. 
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Purely anecdotal of course, but the only time I served on a jury I thought the defendant did it but the state hadn't proved it until he testified and I didn't buy his story. I think jurors take the presumption of innocence seriously. But if you testify you risk giving that anyway.

 
I'm giving it a solid B, closer to B+ than straight B.  Ending disappointed me but the acting throughout the entire thing was great.  Turturro needs to win a ton of awards for this, and the kid playing Nas should too.  As for supporting roles, the DA was really good as was Box, but the whole Box's life is empty except for the job thing was overdone.

But again, now that it's over a lot of the forced drama and character aspects just weren't necessary.  Turturro could have been just a down on your luck attorney and had the same sympathetic streak without the skin rash. 

 
Walking Boot said:
I said earlier in the thread, Turturro is brilliant at acting like he's just coming up with what he's saying off the cuff. Then I saw his closing... And he was acting like someone who had memorized his lines. Just amazing. The skill level on display with him is off the charts. 
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I took it as someone who was just winging it at that point, with all the stress of the night, and even surprised himself at how well he did.

 
bigmarc27 said:
Solid B. 

Good acting, enough twists to keep things interesting, and enough shades of gray to make you care. How many shows can legitimately have you guessing who committed the crime until well into the finale?

Theres legit issues as well.  The love subplot with Chandra, the terrible investigating (not knowing who owned the house, apparently not knowing she had $300k taken from her, etc...) to make me not love it. 

Bottom line: I was entertained, but way too many issues to call it great. 
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Shows that don't give you any information/clues on who did it until the finale?

 
I was overall underwhelmed by the series.  I felt that it went progressively downhill with every episode.  There was way too much filler (cat, eczema, etc)  With that said the acting was excellent all around.  My favorite part of the finale was when the detective walked out as the DA gave her closing statement.  Pretty sure that is what sealed the deal in Nas getting off.

 
I think sometimes we're overly critical of HBO just because of how many all time great shows they've produced. 

This wasn't great, not even close. It was good though and the acting was really well done. 

 
Also tell me where I'm wrong/what I'm missing here...

The cd with Chandra/Nas kissing.  The security guard gave this to Omar, right?  I originally thought it was a clip of Nas sneaking drugs in and possibly not telling Omar. Regardless, wasn't the meeting with Chandra and Nas at the courtroom holding cell and not Rikers?  Why would that guard have that video?  Also Stone thinks it came from the cop, so did it come into the cop's possession at some point or did Omar leak it to Stone somehow?  I'm missing something. 

 
bigmarc27 said:
Also tell me where I'm wrong/what I'm missing here...

The cd with Chandra/Nas kissing.  The security guard gave this to Omar, right?  I originally thought it was a clip of Nas sneaking drugs in and possibly not telling Omar. Regardless, wasn't the meeting with Chandra and Nas at the courtroom holding cell and not Rikers?  Why would that guard have that video?  Also Stone thinks it came from the cop, so did it come into the cop's possession at some point or did Omar leak it to Stone somehow?  I'm missing something. 
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To me, that was showing how far Omar's reach in the system went.  I also remember earlier in the show, didn't he say that having the girl lawyer was not as good as having Stone, and maybe this was his way of doing what he could to help Naz.........

 
Daywalker said:
You know when actors say they don't really know how something will turn out.  You think, "yeah right, you have an idea."

This is a perfect example.

HBO.  John Turturro.  Should be good right?

This show made my skin crawl.  It's bad in every way possible.

If you enjoyed this I don't know what to say.

It's the worst HBO mini-series ever made by far.  

Olive Kitteridge was hard to watch but at least it was shorter and not a crumby procedural that wouldn't make it on an Law and Order episode.  

Naz didn't do it, I guess, but I still wanted his punk ### to go down.

This was not HBO worthy.  Embarrassing.  At least True Detective season 2 has McAdams's ###.
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You didnt watch John from Cinncinati did you?

 
There was a lot of dumb things on this show but my favorite was this:

Foreman: "judge we are hopelessly deadlocked"

Judge: (sternly): "no don't say that word in my court. I hate that word. Not here. Go back and figure it out. Someone is in the way."

Foreman: "I'm sorry your honor, we just can't agree. It won't work out." 

Judge: ok 

 
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Capella said:
There was a lot of dumb things on this show but my favorite was this:

Foreman: "judge we are hopelessly deadlocked"

Judge: (sternly): "no don't say that word in my court. I hate that word. Not here. Go back and figure it out. Someone is in the way."

Foreman: "I'm sorry your honor, we just can't agree. It won't work out." 

Judge: ok 
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I thought the Judge didn't accept it until he found out the count was 6 -6 .  Like he thought there was one person holding out.

 
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