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HC Parcells not sure of Cowboys WR Owens status

Tom Orsborn

8/14/2006

Bill Parcells said today he wasn't sure whether receiver Terrell Owens would return to practice today.

The Cowboys had Sunday off. They resume practice this afternoon at training camp in Oxnard, Calif.

"We need to see something pretty soon," Parcells said of Owens, who has a sore left hamstring and hasn't practiced since Aug. 2. Owens sat out the team's 13-3 preseason victory over Seattle on Saturday.

On Monday, the Cowboys received some good news regarding a receiver when they learned an MRI exam of Patrick Crayton's injured right ankle revealed no ligament damage.

Crayton suffered the injury while blocking in the second quarter against the Seahawks.

Parcells said he wasn't sure whether Crayton would play on Aug. 21 against New Orleans.

Crayton caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Tony Romo against Seattle.

The backup quarterback started and took all the snaps, completing 19-of-25 passes for 235 yards and the TD to Crayton.

"There is an indication that maybe he is on the right path (to someday becoming a starting quarterback)," Parcells said of Romo at the coach's daily media briefing. "I need more information, and I think we are going to get it. I am hopeful he can someday become a starting quarterback."

Parcells offered a mixed review for rookie receiver Sam Hurd's NFL debut.

Hurd, a Brackenridge alumnus, caught four passes for 40 yards but also dropped two balls.

"He did some good things," Parcells said of Hurd. "He was very aggressive. But he dropped two out of six passes. You have to catch the ball more consistently than that to be in the mix (for a roster spot)."

Parcells said Hurd, who was not drafted coming out of Northern Illinois, must continue to work at putting his hands together when he catches the ball.

"It's a flaw that he has and he needs to correct it," Parcells said. Parcells dodged a question about why he played two reserves, linebacker Scott Shanle and end Kenyon Coleman, with the first-team defense Saturday.

The Cowboys are in the market for a receiver and Shanle and Coleman probably started so teams interested in making a deal could get a look at them.

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I imagine they'll take a long, hard look at Charles Rogers if/when he is released.
because they don't have enough of an attitude problem at the position already?
Also because Glenn was hurt during the game (prob minor) and Crayton was hurt, too
before i get someone asking for a link on the Glenn injury, check the Cowboy game thread. I posted in there what was reported. I was able to get the Cowboys team broadcast and they reported during the game that Glenn had an icebag on the top of his foot
 
Cowboys Monday practice injury update, WR Owens sits again

Todd Archer

8/14/2006

Terrell Owens is making his way toward the stationary bicycle, according to Todd Archer.

If you watched or listened to Bill Parcells news conference earlier today, you heard him make his most forceful comments regarding T.O.'s left hamstring injury to date: "We need to see something here pretty soon," Parcells said of Owens.

He also repeated a phrase he's used many times over the past four years: "If they don't practice, they're not playing. Like everyone else."

Parcells isn't ready to panic, but I think his patience is wearing thin. Jerry Jones made a statement Saturday that it would be good for Owens to learn how to practice at 75 to 80 percent. He said he didn't mean that as a criticism, just that Owens is used to going at the same (full) speed all the time and might benefit from holding back a little in practice.

Patrick Crayton, Terry Glenn, Bobby Carpenter and Ryan Fowler are also missing practice. Crayton could out for as long as four weeks with a high right ankle sprain. Glenn, Carpenter and Fowler should all return by tomorrow.

The good news is that defensive end Marcus Spears returned to practice this afternoon. That's a pretty quick recovery from knee surgery, so we'll give some credit to Jim Maurer, Britt Brown, Greg Gaither and the rest of the training staff.

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Gleen has been out most of the past week with blisters on his feet. I don't think he experienced any new problems in the game Saturday. He should be fine.

Crayton, on the other hand, that's troubling. He's had ankle problems in the past. Never a good thing to have multiple injuries to the same area.

 
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Gleen has been out most of the past week with blisters on his feet. I don't think he experienced any new problems in the game Saturday. He should be fine. Crayton, on the other hand, that's troubling. He's had ankle problems in the past. Never a good thing to have multiple injuries to the same area.
Its funny Glenn has been sitting out of practice with blisters and no one says anything but yet everyone is trying to start a TO controversy because he is sitting out with a hamstring injury
 
just saw the Parcells clip on countdown. i'm not seeing the story there. i think these guys have a requirement to write a TO story every day regardless of what happens. if TO plays in the third preseason game, all is well. if he doesn't, i'll start worrying.

 
I'll say this about hamstring injuries. The Cowboys are stupid if they don't give it enough time to recover. Because if they don't, he'll tear it, and then they'll be SOL.

 
Its funny Glenn has been sitting out of practice with blisters and no one says anything but yet everyone is trying to start a TO controversy because he is sitting out with a hamstring injury
One of these guys suited up this past weekend, and he's the one commonly referred to as a female.
 
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Its funny Glenn has been sitting out of practice with blisters and no one says anything but yet everyone is trying to start a TO controversy because he is sitting out with a hamstring injury
One of these guys suited up this past weekend, and he's the one commonly referred to as a female.
That, plus they can actually confirm that Glenn has blisters (and he didn't need to call in his own medical team to do it).
 
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As a lifelong Eagles fan, I have always been able to draft and play FF without letting my emotions get the better of me (although I always seem to have at least ONE Eagle on every roster).

That said, I don't think I could ever pick him up again in FF...last year hurt.

I've been pretty quiet on Owens this year, but I can't help but chuckle a little at the thought thast he might be causing discontent for a divisional rival.

Paint me a permanent Owens hater, regardless of value, ADP, or any other measureable...he'll never see any of my squads again.

Sorry for the highjack... :hot:

 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.

 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
Parcells has clearly said he doesn't know "the player" (Owens) well enough to be riding him yet. He is giving TO the benfit of the doubt. In a PC earlier in the week he said that Owens needs to get some reps if he hopes to play.IMO.....again the Mediots are trying to make something out of nothing. It's sells papers and makes believers of the clueless masses.This just in too.....TO eats Kittens, worships Satan, and was the shooter on the grassy nole.
 
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Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
Parcells has clearly said he doesn't know "the player" (Owens) well enough to be riding him yet. He is giving TO the benfit of the doubt. In a PC earlier in the week he said that Owens needs to get some reps if he hopes to play.IMO.....again the Mediots are trying to make something out of nothing. It's sells papers and makes believers of the clueless masses.This just in too.....TO eats Kittens, worships Satan, and was the shooter on the grassy nole.
Parcells has always been tolerant of unique players who required special attention, provided they were team-first players. T.O., who I still regard as potentially one of the top 3 football players in the league today, has historically shown himself not to be a team-first guy.I think anybody who believes this doesn't bother Parcells is smoking some funny-tobaccy.My question was not 'if' this bothers Parcells, but instead how Parcells is dealing with it. And it sounds like not very good if Parcells has had 5 months to get to know the guy and he still doesn't know him.
 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
Parcells has clearly said he doesn't know "the player" (Owens) well enough to be riding him yet. He is giving TO the benfit of the doubt. In a PC earlier in the week he said that Owens needs to get some reps if he hopes to play.IMO.....again the Mediots are trying to make something out of nothing. It's sells papers and makes believers of the clueless masses.This just in too.....TO eats Kittens, worships Satan, and was the shooter on the grassy nole.
Parody noted, but again I'm convinced that this two-week episode has been nothing more than TO testing Parcells, something that Parcells is all too aware of but trying to conceal that from the media. It's obvious IMHO, and it doesn't augur well for the relationship. Question for Cowboys fans: do you think the local media covering the team is in some perverse way hoping for Parcells to fail given that he's an outsider, i.e. a New Jersey guy with very much of a New York attitude dealing with the media as opposed to a guy brought up in the southern football culture or someone who is more willing to play ball with the media in Dallas?
 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
Parcells has clearly said he doesn't know "the player" (Owens) well enough to be riding him yet. He is giving TO the benfit of the doubt. In a PC earlier in the week he said that Owens needs to get some reps if he hopes to play.IMO.....again the Mediots are trying to make something out of nothing. It's sells papers and makes believers of the clueless masses.This just in too.....TO eats Kittens, worships Satan, and was the shooter on the grassy nole.
I'm convinced that this two-week episode has been nothing more than TO testing Parcells, something that Parcells is all too aware of but trying to conceal that from the media. It's obvious IMHO, and it doesn't augur well for the relationship.
I completely agree, I am not sure how people don't see this.
 
Starting to wonder of Parcells has met his match. Seems Parcells is turtling up when it comes to T.O. and players are starting to question who is running the Cowboy show; T.O., Parcells or the media.
Yeah OK...sure.Can someone remind me what the issue is again?
I am not sure, that is why I am asking. Parcells doesn't seem to be himself. Usually he is ribbing his less-than-injuried players to get on the practice field. However, Parcells seems to be using a different tact with T.O.It is possible this is just evidence of Parcells' coaching diversity, or possibly he doesn't have any idea how to control T.O.
Parcells has clearly said he doesn't know "the player" (Owens) well enough to be riding him yet. He is giving TO the benfit of the doubt. In a PC earlier in the week he said that Owens needs to get some reps if he hopes to play.IMO.....again the Mediots are trying to make something out of nothing. It's sells papers and makes believers of the clueless masses.This just in too.....TO eats Kittens, worships Satan, and was the shooter on the grassy nole.
Parody noted, but again I'm convinced that this two-week episode has been nothing more than TO testing Parcells, something that Parcells is all too aware of but trying to conceal that from the media. It's obvious IMHO, and it doesn't augur well for the relationship. Question for Cowboys fans: do you think the local media covering the team is in some perverse way hoping for Parcells to fail given that he's an outsider, i.e. a New Jersey guy with very much of a New York attitude dealing with the media as opposed to a guy brought up in the southern football culture or someone who is more willing to play ball with the media in Dallas?
I am a huge Cowboy follower, but not from Dallas. I do read all the local stuff from articles to blogs right down to every last word of BP's PC's.To me, it sure seems the media is looking find something that isn't there. Not sure on the Parcells failing thing, I think they enjoy writing more when the team is succesful. To play devi's advocate. Yeah, maybe TO is milking the injury a bit. However, I actually really like how Bill is handling it. What does everyone think he should do? Come out in the media and rant and rave because one of the best WR's in the game is missing some practice. He has spoken to TO about the importance of practice, told him he won't play if he doesn't practice but also is letting T.O. come back when he is ready.I am in the camp that agrees that if this were to have gone on much longer there would a negative impact to T.O.'s ability to grasp the offense.At this point chalk it up to a hyped and somewhat manufactored Pre-Season story. Some will point to T.O.'s questionable history (Which is well documented). I still thinks this arrangement for T.O. will work out well. Everything I have seen so far in Dallas has been positive.* He met his team at the airport to welcome them all to camp (He arrived earlier)* He hosted a huge team BBQ that he organized.* When at practice has been going hard and mentoring the rokkie Hurd (Watch for this kid).
 
The media is really pushing hard to make a story happen here... and the sad part is that they're missing a QB controversy that's brewing underneath it all.

 
I am a huge Cowboy follower, but not from Dallas. I do read all the local stuff from articles to blogs right down to every last word of BP's PC's.

To me, it sure seems the media is looking find something that isn't there. Not sure on the Parcells failing thing, I think they enjoy writing more when the team is succesful.

To play devi's advocate. Yeah, maybe TO is milking the injury a bit. However, I actually really like how Bill is handling it. What does everyone think he should do? Come out in the media and rant and rave because one of the best WR's in the game is missing some practice. He has spoken to TO about the importance of practice, told him he won't play if he doesn't practice but also is letting T.O. come back when he is ready.

I am in the camp that agrees that if this were to have gone on much longer there would a negative impact to T.O.'s ability to grasp the offense.

At this point chalk it up to a hyped and somewhat manufactored Pre-Season story. Some will point to T.O.'s questionable history (Which is well documented). I still thinks this arrangement for T.O. will work out well. Everything I have seen so far in Dallas has been positive.

* He met his team at the airport to welcome them all to camp (He arrived earlier)

* He hosted a huge team BBQ that he organized.

* When at practice has been going hard and mentoring the rokkie Hurd (Watch for this kid).
I agree with a lot of what your wrote. I wanted to comment on the bolded part though. I think Parcells is the one guy in the league who could handle T.O. the best. However, this is not synonomous with being able to handle T.O. Parcells has won many championships by getting 53 players moving in the same direction, with the same goal. T.O. has made a career out of moving against the grain. T.O. is without a doubt a cancer to whatever team he plays on.

Regardless, he is still one of the few players in the leagues I would pay big money to watch play. Heck, I am so impressed with T.O's mastery of his craft, if he offered a private 2 hour work out where he ran nothing but pass routes and showed how to beat cornerbacks off the line, I would be the first to slap down $50 to watch. So it is not so much that I hate T.O., I just accept him for what he is...and what he strives to be.

 
Bankerguy - I don't dispute what you're pointing to regarding the facts and events, but your conclusions I do question.

He had a team party last year for his birthday and used that as a divisive thing on his team by later talking about how well attended it had been, implying that that showed he was more popular than McNabb. For a guy who's a notorious and shamless self-promoter, I see little reason to stand up and cheer because he hosts a party or publicly greets his team at the airport. Far more impressive to me would be the kinds of stories that you regularly have heard out of Indy and NE for example in recent years, of players quietly working out after practice with their new teammates to ensure that they run the offense well.

What I see here is that a guy who is known to hate to practice has a questionable injury undiagnosed by anyone but him and he only returned to practice when Parcells put his foot down. There are direct quotes in SI now from a teammate of his that substantiate that the suspicions I have are shared by at least some of his teammates. Just like happened in Philly over the last two years, the only people defending him and poo-pooing the existence of any problems are fans of his team.

While I do believe that TO's history and reputation do make for something of a self-fulfilling prophesy when it comes to the questions the media asks Parcells when covering this team, you won't convince me that every member of the local media are dead wrong when it comes to smelling smoke here and therefore looking for fire. There are too many good football reporters in Dallas for that to happen.

I'm a 'Skins fan to be sure, but my revulsion at TO as a person and a teammate long precedes his signing by any division rival, and I hope my body of posts here demonstrates that I try like hell to be objective on football matters, even (and maybe especially) regarding my own team and issues closely relating to it, such as news about division rivals.

I said two years ago when Philly signed him that he wasn't worth it, and I believe it again now. Rather than that being a statement about my bias against a division rival, take it as a statement, and a remarkable one by me that a player of TO's tremendous abilities is such a jerk and a divisive force in the locker room that he's not worth the trouble. At least one of my good friends who is very knowledgeable on football and who happens to be a Dallas fan is boycotting the team for as long as TO is on it because he believes this too. It's not just me.

 
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I still have to chuckle to myself when I am reminded of last week when the Cowboys were short bodies at wide receiver during practices. Low and behold, T.O. and his mystery hamstring injury shows up at practice with a Discovery Channel Yellow Jersey and bicycle helmet to ride a stationary bike. I wish I could have seen Parcells face when he saw T.O. on the bike with all the media personnel...and then proceeded to b-line it to the other side of the practice field.

I want to defend T.O.. I want to believe that T.O. approached Parcells after practice to say, "Listen coach, I thought it would be funny but I didn't intent to be that big a distraction to the rest of the team and subject you to additional questions about us to the media." But I just can't convince myself that T.O. is genuinely interested in moving in the same direction as the other 52 players on the team.

 
Bankerguy - I don't dispute what you're pointing to regarding the facts and events, but your conclusions I do question.

He had a team party last year for his birthday and used that as a divisive thing on his team by later talking about how well attended it had been, implying that that showed he was more popular than McNabb. For a guy who's a notorious and shamless self-promoter, I see little reason to stand up and cheer because he hosts a party or publicly greets his team at the airport. Far more impressive to me would be the kinds of stories that you regularly have heard out of Indy and NE for example in recent years, of players quietly working out after practice with their new teammates to ensure that they run the offense well.

What I see here is that a guy who is known to hate to practice has a questionable injury undiagnosed by anyone but him and he only returned to practice when Parcells put his foot down. There are direct quotes in SI now from a teammate of his that substantiate that the suspicions I have are shared by at least some of his teammates. Just like happened in Philly over the last two years, the only people defending him and poo-pooing the existence of any problems are fans of his team.

While I do believe that TO's history and reputation do make for something of a self-fulfilling prophesy when it comes to the questions the media asks Parcells when covering this team, you won't convince me that every member of the local media are dead wrong when it comes to smelling smoke here and therefore looking for fire. There are too many good football reporters in Dallas for that to happen.

I'm a 'Skins fan to be sure, but my revulsion at TO as a person and a teammate long precedes his signing by any division rival, and I hope my body of posts here demonstrates that I try like hell to be objective on football matters, even (and maybe especially) regarding my own team and issues closely relating to it, such as news about division rivals.

I said two years ago when Philly signed him that he wasn't worth it, and I believe it again now. Rather than that being a statement about my bias against a division rival, take it as a statement, and a remarkable one by me that a player of TO's tremendous abilities is such a jerk and a divisive force in the locker room that he's not worth the trouble. At least one of my good friends who is very knowledgeable on football and who happens to be a Dallas fan is boycotting the team for as long as TO is on it because he believes this too. It's not just me.
I know your a skins fan...no worries. You are a good poster and contribute good stuff. We'll agree to disagree. No matter what though.....the media will surely keep us both updated on how this plays out. :ph34r:

 

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