Jaysus
Good times!
I've had these on my head for the last 20 minutes or so now, and I just remembered that I don't like wearing them with glasses. Is that because of the shape of the cup, or just a glasses thing?
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Eephus
Footballguy
You get a great starter set of tips with those. The 1mm increments are kind of overkill but it's helpful to know exactly what size tips you wear.
Eephus
Footballguy
Glasses can be a problem for any over-ear and some on-ear headphones. I went to a retail store to test fit Senn Momentums before I ordered them but even then, you can't lay in the store listening to music for an hour.
I think headband tension is the biggest factor whether you wear glasses or not but shape and material of pads are in the equation too.
Koya
Footballguy
Roll your eyes away. I can only speak from my personal experience and taste - and I'm neither looking to argue (just give my personal opinion which people can agree with or not) nor judge what others like. Only share my own thoughtsChaos Commish said:
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
@rockaction I'm quoting Eephus because he has this right but I'm adding some details to help you understand dacs and amps better. They are the circuitry he mentions. Every bt headset or speaker has a built-in dac and amp to process the digital signal. In the case of bt phones the dac is the size of a fingernail and the amp the size of a thumbnail, so there's limitations. Then it doesn't need to be loud pumped straight to your brain. Still bt is a long way from wired when my dac and amp are the size of paperbacks.Eephus said:
Also your phone, pc, tablet, avr, radio, and tv all have dacs and amps on board. They're just widely considered garbage by audionerds who bypass them for exterior units that do the job better.
So the answer to your question was no dice. But the real question was how to get the most from the BT Sennies you dropped some money on. Best I can tell the least compressed audio they support is the bluetooth 4.0 aptx codec. That's not bad but there was a significant improvement at 4.2 aptx hd and now bt 5.0 and Sony's proprietary LDAC codec (gone open source and available in Android 8). It seems you jumped in a year too soon to beam wireless hifi into cans. Optimizing yours involves making sure the source/transmitter of the bt signal is actively supporting aptx. You find all this in settings or googles about your the devices and software in your setup.
rockaction
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Me too actually. I've shunned things that hurt audio like wireless, noise canceling, heavily compressed files, etc. But reading up this this afternoon, I've decided to wait for the bt 5 devices to hit this fall and jump in. I keep reading and I'll justify a Tidal account, and that has to be too nerdy.
Eephus
Footballguy
The mobile phone industry is going to force me and everybody else to Bluetooth sooner or later. I'm going to wait until my devices don't have 3.5mm jacks before jumping into Bluetooth headphones. Hopefully the technology will keep on improving.
I currently have a cheap portable Bluetooth speaker for listening to music in the yard (my yard is small) and bought a used pair of Aftershokz Bluez 2 bone conducting headphones for bike rides. Both are closer to medium than high fidelity.
I currently have a cheap portable Bluetooth speaker for listening to music in the yard (my yard is small) and bought a used pair of Aftershokz Bluez 2 bone conducting headphones for bike rides. Both are closer to medium than high fidelity.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
How do you like those? I almost bought a boner-conducting speaker thing for my ear/ jaw when I was swimming a lot.
edit: This was the one I nearly pulled the trigger on, but didn't.
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Koya
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
The Aftershokz do what they're supposed to do...barely. If I max out volume on the headphonz and my phone, it's just loud enough to be heard clearly over wind noise. The bone conducting technology doesn't allow for much bass but it lets in enough ambient noise for safe riding. Battery life is OK for city riding but I take a set of regular buds if I'm going on a long ride.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Here Eephus. For the collection.
https://www.jbl.com/sale/INSPIRE+100.html?cgid=sale&dwvar_INSPIRE 100_color=Black %2F Red
https://www.jbl.com/sale/INSPIRE+100.html?cgid=sale&dwvar_INSPIRE 100_color=Black %2F Red
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
When I used to run all the time , I experimented with all kinds of weird form factors like those Yurbuds. The objective was to find something that would stay in my ears, allow some ambient noise in and most importantly, minimize microphonics, the noise that results from vibrations on the cable and earpieces. I tried ear buds with nozzles like those JBLs but was never happy with the fit. I think they were from Philips rather than real Yurbuds.
I finally ended up with these Sony MDR-J20 as a compromise choice. In retrospect, they didn't sound that great but I didn't know better at the time (5-15 years ago) and sound really wasn't my main priority.
It looks like workout buds are all Bluetooth these days but I don't see any big paradigm shift in earpiece design. In this respect, workout headphones are kind of like modern video games. The technology has advanced by leaps and bounds but the limiting factor is still the interface with the human body.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
It's just not my area but I figured JBL $8 wth. Good info thanks. What I'm seriously considering (neck thingy) is Sony wi1000xn but for half that price. I'm happy with the aptx hd and ldac support. Sort of future proof. Reviews have been solid to award winning. Almost pulled the trigger on the Triple Drivers last night but if I understand the compression numbers the Sony sound like all I would need and bt. Worried the neck thingy defeats the portability too much is all.
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Eephus
Footballguy
Neckbuds seem like a practical solution to house the Bluetooth receiver and power source separately from the earpieces. They also make individual ear pieces harder to misplace.
Patrick Bateman
Footballguy
Monoprice. You will not find better sounding cans than these for less than $40. They aren't the prettiest cans you'll ever see, but you won't get better bang for the buck. They're $15.99. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8323
Eephus
Footballguy
This thread sent me back to Head-Fi which is a fascinating but very strange place. I have too many headphones and like cheap things so I usually stick to the threads about obscure Chinese brands.
I ended up ordering the evocatively named JoyPlus EROS (aka Estron/Timmkoo C631) IEMs because some forum member found an Amazon seller who was selling them for half of wholesale price. (they're sold out now). They had a one star Amazon rating from one buyer who said the treble was too hot. The guy on Head-Fi disagreed and provided a hack to remove the nylon filters on the nozzles which he said opened up the sound.
They arrived today and sound amazing, especially for $15.99. They have two balanced armatures, a 10mm dynamic driver and a mic/remote that's fully functional with iOS. Some multi-driver headphones have a detectable crossover point but these JoyPlus present a seamless sound with perfect mid-range clarity.
I ended up ordering the evocatively named JoyPlus EROS (aka Estron/Timmkoo C631) IEMs because some forum member found an Amazon seller who was selling them for half of wholesale price. (they're sold out now). They had a one star Amazon rating from one buyer who said the treble was too hot. The guy on Head-Fi disagreed and provided a hack to remove the nylon filters on the nozzles which he said opened up the sound.
They arrived today and sound amazing, especially for $15.99. They have two balanced armatures, a 10mm dynamic driver and a mic/remote that's fully functional with iOS. Some multi-driver headphones have a detectable crossover point but these JoyPlus present a seamless sound with perfect mid-range clarity.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I ordered two pairs of these, they got here today. They sound pretty decent! Definitely better than 8 dollar headphone should.
Will update after I sweat em up with some exercise or yardwork.
Eephus
Footballguy
Good Medium article with some ChiFi recommendations including some that I've never heard of before.
There's a site-wide AliExpress sale starting four days from now. Ali pricing can be converted to dollars but is still more complicated than the typical US e-commerce site. In some cases, I've seen vendors mark up regular prices in advance of sales and reduce them afterwards but there will certainly be good deals available if you do your research. I'm probably going to sit this one out but ask me again in a week.
There's a site-wide AliExpress sale starting four days from now. Ali pricing can be converted to dollars but is still more complicated than the typical US e-commerce site. In some cases, I've seen vendors mark up regular prices in advance of sales and reduce them afterwards but there will certainly be good deals available if you do your research. I'm probably going to sit this one out but ask me again in a week.
