Help me get excited about drafting at #11 (1 Viewer)

[Judge Smails]

So last year at 10 was a freakin' disaster, was going to take McCoy, McFadden or Mendenhall in that order looking for steady RB. You guessed it - McCoy/McFadden went the picks right before me. 3-10 nightmare (didn't help that I got Rivers in his only down year). Usually at 11 you can get one of the standout top 3 receivers so you have an advantage, or a QB who is a tier or two above. I just don't see that advantage with that pick this year - they will be grouped with a lot of guys.

This year it will be obvious that the likes of Foster, Rice, McCoy, Rodgers, Calvin Johnson, Chris Johnson and Ryan Mathews will be gone. That's 7. With MJD holding out and his low TD output I doubt he'll go. Our league is fairly QB crazy with 6 point TD's and bonuses for 300 yard passing games, so I wouldn't be surprised if Brady, Brees, Stafford and Newton are all in consideration for next 3 picks. Andre Johnson will fall with injury concern. QB situation will drop Fitz a bit.

Here's the thing. I'm tired of going for "safe" at the end of the first round. Can't win with safe. I want freakin' studs - period. None of the WR's after Calvin are really top 14 worthy in my opinion. Hard enough to figure out who's going to be the best on their own team (White/Jones, Nicks/Cruz, Jennings/Nelson), etc. So unless it's a standout #1 WR that gets his in double coverage like a Calvin, health AJ or maybe an AJ Green type receivers are out at those picks.

So what would you look for to build a team around with picks 11/14? QB's go early, wide receiver run happens in the 2nd/3rd round. Note - I do think Rivers has a big bounce back year so he's one of the guys I would be willing to wait for - but I've have to get even him in the 3rd or 4th - that's how quick QB's go. Thouhts?

 

[rickyg]

Always remember leagues are not won in the first round! And look at the bright side, you will have the 2nd best pick in the 2nd round!

Be unconventional. Draft the best value on the board at 11 with the most upside. When it's your turn, if everyone ate up the best rbs and arodg go with the best wr or another elite qb or dare i say graham or gronk.

This year everyone is freaking out about rbs being in thin supply so everyone is ping up in rbs in the first 2-3 rounds. That leaves terrific opportunity for you at 11 to go against the grain. You can get a little loco and spend your first 3 picks on an elite qb, wr, and or TE or any combo of that. The at 4.2 take your first rb and then stockpile guys like Donald brown/Peyton Hillis/ Kevin smith - all guys who have a shot at top 10 numbers this season.

Good luck

 

[mrip541]

Drafting at the end of 1, 3 and 5 seems to be brutal this year.

Oh, I mean everything will be fine. When else will you have the chance to go TE, QB, WR? Championship!

 

[werdnoynek]

i'm picking at 11 in a traditional non ppr league...

i actually like the spot quite a bit. with the 11th pick i think it would be crazy not to grab graham or gronk. the value is there for them to be top receivers yet again. at the 14th pick i'm looking running back. ideally murray imo, otherwise, forte, mcfadden (if you're ok with the injury risk) or lynch (if he isn't going to miss time). at the 3/4 turn i'm looking at doug martin as my #2 RB and brandon $$ lloyd as my #1 WR. for QB's i think committee is the way to go at this spot. i think the first qb i'm grabbing will be griffin and later picking up luck or cutler if i can. there's value at RB and WR in the middle rounds with guys like ridley, spiller, ingram, jstew, ryan williams for RB's and garcon, decker, wright, both baldwins (sea & kc), etc... i'd watch for the right time to grab rg3 to make sure you get him and make sure there's another decent committee QB available too and i think there's a solid team to be made. i'm quite happy with this position.

 

[butcher boy]

If I get a late pick my formula for drafting this year is

Top 3 RBs if they somehow fall -> Megatron -> one of Rodgers/ Brady/Brees if there -> Graham

A lot of people will take McFadden, Mathews or MJD, which might not be a bad pick, but it's a bit too much risk for me to take with the individual issues the guys in that tier of RBs have.

 

[th3f00l]

Draft Rchardson and Gronk/Graham with your first 2 picks and Fred Jackson and Romo with your 3/4. WR is deep, so in the fifth and sixth you can get Lloyd and Brown maybe. Not a bad start. Make sure you get spiller later and you should be set. That is my strategy if I end up with that spot.

 

[chickensoup]

To me there are a lot of things you can do:

Safe: Forte then Graham or Gronk. This sets you up to pick another value RB later (3rd or fourth) like Fred Jackson or Turner (who I'm not predicting to be as bad as everyone else seems to). It would behoove you to get another starting RB later with this though (Hillis, Brown) and Michael Bush (if Forte goes down that handcuff could save your season IMO)

Risky: McFadden then AP. back up both guys late and still try for a Hillis or Brown if you play flex spots. Both guys are capable of top 5 seasons but have serious question marks because of injury. If they don't get hurt (McFadden) and play up to their talent (both) you just stole the draft from the 11 spot. It's risky because of their situations, but it's hard to compete with a Rice/Steven Jackson type owner as is when your starting in a RB hole like that. When the draft ends up like this for me I go safer at other positions or else too much has to go right. WR targets for this are: Stevie Johnson, Bowe, Marshall, Nicks, Garçon. TE: Witten, Pettigrew. QB: Romo, Ryan.

Super safe: Steven Jackson and Forte. These guys won't win you the league and you have to go upside with WR later or else you'll never equalize points unless injuries happen. Like always it requires getting guys later but your starting 2 are safe

 

[Concept Coop]

I would be very happy with Gronk/DMC.

DMC has more risk than the top 3, but he has every bit the upside and baseline, save maybe Foter.

There will be good WR combos on the board at the 3/4 turn as well.

I think Gronk/Grahm add value to the end of round 1 that wasn't there in years past. Wildcards, if you will.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

In a mock on FF Calculator right now and drafted Forte, Murray, Nelson and Lloyd in the 12 spot. Graham was available and probably the better move over Murray, but not a terrible start.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I'm in a 16 team league. Since I usually come in 3rd I get to draft at 14th out of 16. Cry me a river.

At least at the turn you know what position will (NOT) be taken in between your picks.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I'm totally rooting for 9-12 this year...only chance you have to get two feature backs

 

[Cawbird]

So according to what you mapped out.........here are the likely top 7 (in no order):

1. Foster

2. Rice

3. McCoy

4. Rodgers

5. Calvin Johnson

6. Chris Johnson

7. Ryan Matthews

and if the QB runs starts..........that leaves Brady, Brees, Stafford and Newton. Then you have the QB talent level drop-off. So you would still get one of the 4 remaining QBs at pick 11. So if the QB run starts at pick 8.........

8. Brady

9. Brees

10. Newton

11. Stafford to you (no running game again this year......lots of passing)

So now it's pick 12 and the turn into round 2 with pick 13. Maybe this group goes next:

Fitzgerald, A.J., MJD. But if the owner is a little nervous about the QB run, he may bite on a Romo, Manning type with one of his 2 picks, knowing he may have garbage at QB by the end of the 3rd. So let's say it goes like this.......

12. Romo

13. Fitz

14. This now leaves you the choice of AJ or MJD. Not bad at all to start with Stafford/AJ or MJD. If the prior owner goes QB/RB, then why not start the WR run and force the next group of owners to get nervous? Better to be the start of a position run than be caught in the middle or end of it. And just like every other year, I see the 1st round RB flops, and some mid-round RB's stepping up (Spiller, Hillis, J Stewart)

If you are lucky enough to land Brady or Brees, then why not swing for the fenses and come back with Gronk or Graham to have the QB/TE combo? That would definitely not be "playing it safe".

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

So according to what you mapped out.........here are the likely top 7 (in no order):1. Foster2. Rice3. McCoy4. Rodgers5. Calvin Johnson6. Chris Johnson7. Ryan Matthewsand if the QB runs starts..........that leaves Brady, Brees, Stafford and Newton. Then you have the QB talent level drop-off. So you would still get one of the 4 remaining QBs at pick 11. So if the QB run starts at pick 8.........8. Brady9. Brees10. Newton11. Stafford to you (no running game again this year......lots of passing)So now it's pick 12 and the turn into round 2 with pick 13. Maybe this group goes next:Fitzgerald, A.J., MJD. But if the owner is a little nervous about the QB run, he may bite on a Romo, Manning type with one of his 2 picks, knowing he may have garbage at QB by the end of the 3rd. So let's say it goes like this.......12. Romo13. Fitz14. This now leaves you the choice of AJ or MJD. Not bad at all to start with Stafford/AJ or MJD. If the prior owner goes QB/RB, then why not start the WR run and force the next group of owners to get nervous? Better to be the start of a position run than be caught in the middle or end of it. And just like every other year, I see the 1st round RB flops, and some mid-round RB's stepping up (Spiller, Hillis, J Stewart)If you are lucky enough to land Brady or Brees, then why not swing for the fenses and come back with Gronk or Graham to have the QB/TE combo? That would definitely not be "playing it safe".

I have done a lot of mocks...and none have turned out like that lol. draft a WR early is just not a sound move this year, there are so many WRs that could produce this year that the difference between Andre Johnson and WR12 or 13, really isn't that much. The chance to grab a combo of Forte, Richardson, McFadden, MJD in those final spots gives you a huge advantage on anyone else in the league, because your going to be the only one with two backs that are the main, feature backs of their offense.

 

[chickensoup]

Forgot to add: my personal preference this year is DMC/Peterson if they are available. If both end up ok for you then it's going to be very hard to replicate your RB potential because both are very very good players when healthy. I generally only really take chances like that when in the 10-12 spots though.

With graham/Gronk it's going to take a similar season to last year to make the pick worthwhile in my eyes. They are not do not draft but for where they go they have to be pretty outstanding to justify their pick. If I had to pick 2 guys who will screw someone's season the easiest it would be those 2 guys. Safe from a value standpoint, but if graham goes 1080 yards with 85 receptions and 9 TD would he be justified as a first rounder just because he was the best TE?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

if it makes you feel any better - I have been in my primary league (redraft) for what will be our 20th season this year. Draft lottery has not happened yet so I don't know the results for this year - but of the last 19 years, I have been 10, 11, or 12 in 17 of the 19 years. The other two years were a 6 and a 9 slot.

It defies the odds how crappy my draft position luck has been. Each year draft lottery is determined by previous years standings - so if you finish 1st you get one lottery ball, 2nd = 2, 3rd = 4, 4th = 8, etc. Even the year I finished second to last I wound up with the 11th pick the next year. Just horrible luck.

 

[Judge Smails]

i'm picking at 11 in a traditional non ppr league... i actually like the spot quite a bit. with the 11th pick i think it would be crazy not to grab graham or gronk. the value is there for them to be top receivers yet again. at the 14th pick i'm looking running back. ideally murray imo, otherwise, forte, mcfadden (if you're ok with the injury risk) or lynch (if he isn't going to miss time). at the 3/4 turn i'm looking at doug martin as my #2 RB and brandon $$ lloyd as my #1 WR. for QB's i think committee is the way to go at this spot. i think the first qb i'm grabbing will be griffin and later picking up luck or cutler if i can. there's value at RB and WR in the middle rounds with guys like ridley, spiller, ingram, jstew, ryan williams for RB's and garcon, decker, wright, both baldwins (sea & kc), etc... i'd watch for the right time to grab rg3 to make sure you get him and make sure there's another decent committee QB available too and i think there's a solid team to be made. i'm quite happy with this position.

1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1 Flex - so no TE mandatory. If you don't take Graham or Gronk (too high in my league) where would you go at 11?

 

[Judge Smails]

I'm almost 100% certain that the owner at 12 will take Newton with one of his two picks. If I look at "can't miss" if there is such a thing here's what I see:

QB's

1) Brady

2) Stafford

Both have no running games to speak of and almost have to by default throw for 35-40+ TD's. Stafford's risk is if CJ goes down. Brees? a lot of funk going on in New Orleans, not sure about them

RB's

nobody

Richardson is the one I'll watch in pre-season. Best back since ADP coming out of college is high praise indeed. But I haven't seen it with my own eyes yet. McFadden if he's 100% healthy I'll consider, especially with Bush gone. Sorry, I won't draft ADP in any circumstance after those injuries, and I won't draft MJD either way - fat and happy off a new contract or bitter. Forte, again coming off an injury, will consider maybe at 14 but hard to see him having a better year than last year, and without the long screens for touchdowns he's very hard to project.

WR's

Big drop off after CJ, and many lumped in a similar category. AJ's breaking down concerns me - he just gets killed out there. Fitz still has junk throwing to him. Love Jimmy Graham and think he's as safe as anybody - totally unguardable - like him as much as the big WR's. But the guys above with Welker, Roddy White, Julio Jones, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Jennings/Nelson. AJ Green may be a CJ like monster but we'll see - he'll get triple teamed this year. Wallace holding out. Steve Smith - love him later but not that high. Can you really separate any of these guys with confidence?

The more I look at this I feel almost compelled to get at least 1 RB - probably a McFadden/Richardson type, then a Brady/Stafford type. Good shot 2 of those Tier 2, 2B flight of WR's will be available at 35/38.

 

[werdnoynek]

i'm picking at 11 in a traditional non ppr league... i actually like the spot quite a bit. with the 11th pick i think it would be crazy not to grab graham or gronk. the value is there for them to be top receivers yet again. at the 14th pick i'm looking running back. ideally murray imo, otherwise, forte, mcfadden (if you're ok with the injury risk) or lynch (if he isn't going to miss time). at the 3/4 turn i'm looking at doug martin as my #2 RB and brandon $$ lloyd as my #1 WR. for QB's i think committee is the way to go at this spot. i think the first qb i'm grabbing will be griffin and later picking up luck or cutler if i can. there's value at RB and WR in the middle rounds with guys like ridley, spiller, ingram, jstew, ryan williams for RB's and garcon, decker, wright, both baldwins (sea & kc), etc... i'd watch for the right time to grab rg3 to make sure you get him and make sure there's another decent committee QB available too and i think there's a solid team to be made. i'm quite happy with this position.

1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1 Flex - so no TE mandatory. If you don't take Graham or Gronk (too high in my league) where would you go at 11?

if rodgers, brees and brady are gone, then i'd go murray, mcfadden, richardson, or forte at 11 and 14. RB/RB is the way to go if you aren't going to take gronk/graham or Top 3 QB with those picks... i'd avoid WR until 3/4th and target lloyd there or nicks/cruz/CAR smith as your WR1 - i've seen them all available around there. if martin is available for you in 3rd, i'd take him ... RB/RB/RB isn't a bad idea this year

 

[Vision6]

Love drafting in the late first this year. I usually end up with 2 of McFadden/Forte/Richardson.

RBs are weak in the next few rounds while WRs are deep so I avoid taking a WR in round 1 or 2.

If Brady falls I'd strongly consider him in round 1 or Jimmy Graham in round 2 if neither of those backs are on the board.

 

[BroadwayG]

janikowski

 

[ponchsox]

11 is a good spot, I just drafted a sick team out of the #10 spot in an MFL 12 team PPR league (Mathews, Graham, Julio, SJax, Harvin, S. Johnson, Ridley)

 

[Judge Smails]

11 is a good spot, I just drafted a sick team out of the #10 spot in an MFL 12 team PPR league (Mathews, Graham, Julio, SJax, Harvin, S. Johnson, Ridley)

I can guarantee Mathews won't last till the 11th pick and that Julio won't be there back to me at 3.11. Good draft for you though. Who did you end up with at QB?

 

[ponchsox]

11 is a good spot, I just drafted a sick team out of the #10 spot in an MFL 12 team PPR league (Mathews, Graham, Julio, SJax, Harvin, S. Johnson, Ridley)

I can guarantee Mathews won't last till the 11th pick and that Julio won't be there back to me at 3.11. Good draft for you though. Who did you end up with at QB?

Eli

 

[Sweet Love]

If you really want to make a statement, and your league allows you to start a TE in the flex spot, grab both Gronk and Graham. At first, laughter will ensue, but then, when they see what you did, they will start scrambling and overpaying for TEs. When someone is getting desperate (and you know that guy...balding, 40lbs overweight and sweating profusely), you move one of the two for the guy he grabbed in the 7-10 spot and walk away happily.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

11 is a good spot, I just drafted a sick team out of the #10 spot in an MFL 12 team PPR league (Mathews, Graham, Julio, SJax, Harvin, S. Johnson, Ridley)

I can guarantee Mathews won't last till the 11th pick and that Julio won't be there back to me at 3.11. Good draft for you though. Who did you end up with at QB?

if you had the 2nd spot, chances are julio won't make it to you at 2.11I got 3 and 11 in 2 mfl drafts, recently -- much prefer 11.

 

[Judge Smails]

If you really want to make a statement, and your league allows you to start a TE in the flex spot, grab both Gronk and Graham. At first, laughter will ensue, but then, when they see what you did, they will start scrambling and overpaying for TEs. When someone is getting desperate (and you know that guy...balding, 40lbs overweight and sweating profusely), you move one of the two for the guy he grabbed in the 7-10 spot and walk away happily.

You'd do this in a non TE mandatory league??

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If you really want to make a statement, and your league allows you to start a TE in the flex spot, grab both Gronk and Graham. At first, laughter will ensue, but then, when they see what you did, they will start scrambling and overpaying for TEs. When someone is getting desperate (and you know that guy...balding, 40lbs overweight and sweating profusely), you move one of the two for the guy he grabbed in the 7-10 spot and walk away happily.

You'd do this in a non TE mandatory league??

No, league scoring and rules always dictate very specific ADP.I like the 2 Rb option.....McFadden and Richardson.

 

[macknova]

Without Mathews now at 11 or 14, there's one less option that high.

For PPR, right now I'm thinking

1. Arian

2. Rice

3. McCoy

4. Rodgers

5. CJ

6. Calvin

7. Brady

8. McFadden

9. Forte

10. Graham

11. Brees

12. Murray

13. Sproles

14. Gronkowski

Really am hoping for 2 of the first 10-11 to fall to me, feel less comfortable about the last 3.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I would go McFadden and Forte. Richardson is gonna see 8 man fronts all game and not too many goal li.e situations

 

[greyone]

There any many many options for you. But my point lies here....

Their is a major shift in value at the 5.11/6.02 turn. Your picks.

Desirable wr and qb depth is available at the front of round 6. Which is the middle of11 slot turn. The middle and end of round 6 hurts from the tier drop off at wr Reggie Wayne/Torrey Smith. Usually Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Lloyd, Stevie Johnson and Eric Decker types are sniped close to the 5/6 turn. Id rather have the last of upside wr1 tier.

Versus the front & middle of the Black Hole of mid round RBs. Reggie Bush, Shone Greene, BJGE, Helu, Beanie, Dang, Donald Brown, etc...

From round 1-4 everyone is loading up with legit talent. Dont let ADP make your decisions.

1/2 turn you have your pick of elite WR/RB/QB. Whats your preference? RB/RB, RB/WR, WR/WR, QB/?, TE(Graham)/?. Just do it.

3/4 turn. With a little luck Nicks, JNelson, Colston and a couple others are set to go. Gates or a QB can be there.

Dood, I prefer drafting in the back third.

 

[greyone]

Take a long hard look at picking Steven Jackson at the 1.11 or 2.02. SJax played 14/15 games the last 2 years. He finished as the 11th and 14th ranked rb nonppr. And we are expecting the Jeff Fisher bump.

 

[Dismattle]

Id suggest adding some risk to the first two picks

Grab your two RB's D. Murry & T. Richardson

Then select the best WR on the board, if you dont see at least four WR's go before next pick, snag another one If you do see a run on WR, take a look at what TE's are available ie. Gates or one mentioned earlier (were talkin receptions not based on who the CB is, and possibly TD scoring)

Finish the lineup w best available (hopefullly guys you like w upside)

The real downside/twist is were gonna have to take two QB's back to back at some point. A few QB's can lose their number 1 WR, and remain productive. I dont believe all of em can say that, so in a sence you will be playing it safe. (Last yr Cam would have been nice to grab for runnin w two QB's) This yr we may see someone else step up ie. Josh Freeman, Cassell, and perhaps Ponder

p.s. I wouldnt sweat not gettin certain players ie. Brees He wont have his Coach, and He will be playing some good Defenses during the Season (maybe Ingram performs better, and takes some of the TD's away, leaving only the picks)

 

[Rick James]

My general rule is to draft best player available-- often that translates into taking the player with the biggest differential in projected points over the second-ranked player at his position. (i.e. if Trent Richardson is projected for 220 and Fred Jackson for 190, but there are 5 WRs projected at 210, I'll take Trent even though his projected points is slightly lower).

I've had 2 drafts, 2 late slots-- 9 and 11. I'll post my thoughts on #11 here, as I did with #9 (Drafting at #9).

first things first: 12-team, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 RB/WR, K, DEF

1.11- The first 9 picks were predictable (3 stud RBs, Calvin, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, DMAC and Chris Johnson) and there was 1 surprise (Andre Johnson). I was hoping that one of the QBs would fall to me so that I could play it differently this time around, but alas I'm forced to take Matt Forte as my #1 RB in back-to-back drafts. FBG has him #4 overall in PPR, so legit value here. Already I'm noticing a similar pattern to my #9 draft-- since one of the elite TEs will be available at 2.02, I will likely start off RB/TE again in this draft unless I can find some crazy value...

Selection: Matt Forte, RB, CHI

2.02- #12 took MJD and Murray on the turn, so I have both TEs available and a plethora of pretty good RBs that I don't think are worth 2.02, and Larry Fitzgerald. I decide to take an elite TE here, with the plan to start stock-piling RB/WR unless a QB falls to me that shouldn't.

Selection: Jimmy Graham, TE, NO

3.11- Like I've seen in mocks and real drafts, the mid-2nd round starts a run on WRs (9 taken from 2.09 to 3.08...including #1 overall taking Julio and Roddy at the turn. lol, I love it). Cam and Stafford also went before my pick, and surprisingly so did Philip Rivers. Lots of really nice RBs left...Ahmad Bradshaw lasted until 3.09..had my eye on him, but that's ok. There's still a guy that shouldn't be on the board.

Selection: Trent Richardson, RB, CLE

4.02- If you read my recap of the #9 position, you would know that I originally thought I could draft another RB at 4.02 and a WR would fall to me. Well, I know that won't happen now, especially being 2 picks further down the line when the 5th round comes. So I'm at 4.02 and Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, etc are still available. So I'm about to choose one, but I notice that Doug Martin's still on the board...not surprising since his ADP is 4.10...but the RB position is about to take a serious nosedive...to illustrate, there's a 40 point gap between Doug Martin and the 10th next best RB, and a 20 point gap between Hakeem Nicks and the 10th next best WR. So I do what any idiot would do...

Selection: Doug Martin, RB, TB

5.11- My plan at #4 centered on me taking the last of the 2nd/3rd tier RBs and having a WR fall to me at 5.11. There was one caveat- If I think Reggie Bush is available at 5.11, then I should take a WR at 4.02...but I just couldn't possibly envision Reggie Bush falling to 5.11, so that's why I drafted Doug Martin. So I'm watching Reggie Bush fall and fall and fall and I'm kinda getting pissed. If he falls to my 5th round pick, I obviously can't pick him because I already have 3RBs, but more importantly it meant I screwed up at 4.02. Luckily (I guess..?) he finally is drafted at 5.06 which means my plan was generally correct. I'm no doubt going WR here at 5.11..it's just a matter of who? On a prayer I was hoping Percy Harvin or Hakeem Nicks would be there. But they weren't. The usual guys got picked, and at 5.11 I had a choice of Steve Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin, and guys ranked behind them. I have these three guys ahead of the next group (Lloyd, Decker, etc) by a nice margin so ideally I'll take 2 out of these 3...but #12 overall went RB/RB/RB/TE with his first 4 and I just know he's taking 2 at the turn.

Selection: Steve Johnson, WR, BUF

6.02- Just watch and wait to see which two WRs #12 selects...Vincent Jackson, damn...and...Pierre Garcon, yay! I'll take Miles Austin with my 6th pick and feel pretty good about it. Next up? QB...

Selection: Miles Austin, WR, DAL

7.11- Just as a recap, of the 10 teams selecting before me 7 have QBs already. So theoretically only 3 teams would need a QB before my 7th picks. Just so happens that Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and Tony Romo are still on the board. After my 6.02 I sit quietly and hope that one of those fine QBs falls to me at 7.11....and we make it to 7.03 before all hell breaks loose...the Matt Stafford owner selects Matt Ryan at 7.03, Tony Romo goes at 7.04, Peyton Manning gets taken at 7.06, Eli Manning goes 7.08, and just for good measure the Phillip Rivers owner takes Big Ben at 7.10.

####!!

So I'm yelling at the computer when my wife walks in and asks, "What's wrong? Someone take your guy?". Yes. Yes they did. And I hate them for it.

Anyway, so the top remaining QBs are Robert Griffin III (who I actually really like), Jay Cutler, Matt Schaub...so I settle on RGIII. However, I notice that RGIII isn't even on the "top remaining QBs" list on the draft software, so I decide to gamble and hope the next guy doesn't take him. Instead, I take..

Selection: Reggie Wayne, WR, IND

8.02- I was right-- #12 took two puzzling WRs (Greg Little and Robert Meachem), which frees up RGIII for me. Not a bad position, honestly. I'll take another QB fairly quickly and do my QBBC thing.

Selection: Robert Griffin III, QB, WAS

9.11- Nothing exciting. Everybody was scooping up TEs and RBs that I didn't care about...

Selection: Jay Cutler, QB, CHI

10.02- Interesting note: I had my eye on Denarius Moore for the last 3 rounds. I had him last year and think he's going to do really well this year, but since I needed a QB badly I couldn't take him. Well he's still available, so I grab him.

Denarius Moore, WR, OAK

11.11- Part of the reason I took Moore at 10.02 is due to the amount of pretty good back-up RBs still available...Pierre Thomas, James Starks, Jacquizz Rodgers, Michael Bush, Shane Vereen, Ryan Williams were still on the board at 10.02...nothing super exciting but, I mean it's the 10th round. I took a shot at a WR hoping that one of those guys would be there at 11.11. And one was..

Selection: Ryan Williams, RB, ARI

The rest of my draft was boring...I did grab Brandon Lafell in the 14th, but everything else was DEF, K, RB5 and RB6.

After 1.5 hours, here's my team (week 1 starting lineup bolded)

QB- Robert Griffin III, Jay Cutler

RB- Matt Forte, Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, Ryan Williams, Jon Dwyer, Tim Hightower

WR- Steve Johnson, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Denarius Moore, Brandon Lafell

TE- Jimmy Graham

K- Gostkowski

DEF- Eagles

In conclusion- I like it. It's kinda old-school with the very strong RB corps. I think my strength at RB and TE, combined with a solid WR group (solid, not great) will help overcome a slight weakness at QB.

 

[zilladog]

Dmc/Sjax on the turn.

Dmc/gronk or graham on the turn

Trich/ fitz on the turn

Your gonna kill it.

 

[DocHoliday]

I drafted @ #10 last year... out of 12 teams I took it down.

1st place with Tom Brady as my first pick and Bradshaw with the second round pick.

So get excited

 

[nikshatnt]

You should zag when everyone is zigging. Sproles and F. Jackson. Neither one will be available to you in the 3rd.

 

[beast8812]

I have #12 in a 12 teamer and everyone saying mcfadden will be there I think is wrong.

I see the first 8 being some combination of , big 3 rbs, big 3qbs, calvin, cj2k. That leaves mcfadden, forte, mjd and the 2 te's I think as some combination of the next 3 picks. I really want mcfadden and graham or one of the top 3 qbs but I doubt I get any of those guys. And then I feel screwed. Im not sold on forte and mjd's holdout. Im dreading the 12 pick right now. The next 2 weeks I will just be hoping something I want falls to me.

 

[Eminence]

Draft and trade?

 

[Sammy B]

You should zag when everyone is zigging. Sproles and F. Jackson. Neither one will be available to you in the 3rd.

Then you're giving guys drafting after you better value on the players that should have been taken at those spots, no?

 

[Judge Smails]

The one guy I have a hard time getting excited about is Demarco Murray. He shredded the Rams, but I can get 100 yards against the Rams. Everyone shredded them on the ground last year. He did have a few nice games after that but also several mediocre ones. Romo not comfortable with his center, and I didn't see any holes for the Cowboy running game vs. Oakland. Just sayin'..I think the Cowboys will be a passing team throughout

 

[TheWick]

Just started

1.11 Forte

2.02 Brady

This is a relatively high stakes shark draft...I'll post as I go just to get you excited.

 

[macknova]

Damn good start. Forte-Brady is basically what I'm dreaming of.

Every FFC draft seems to have the top 10 I dread. This is my current order.

Arian

Rice

McCoy

Rodgers

Calvin

McFadden

CJ

Forte

Brady

Graham

Those are the 10 guys I'd ideally take in the first 2 rounds. After that are guys like Murray, Gronk, Lynch, SJax, Sproles, Brees that I really don't want to take that high. I can deal with getting one. Don't want to get two. Brees would be the next guy on my list.

Forte-Brady would be a great start. I want at least RB in the first 2 rounds. That way I have one anchor guy I can trust every week when healthy and play matchups at the other RB spot. Don't want to have to deal with Ahmad Bradshaw, Doug Martin or Reggie Bush as my RB1 which may happen if I pass one up in the first 2 rounds.

I don't want a WR in the first two unless Calvin is there.

 

[Judge Smails]

I think McFadden's impressive series ruined any chance that he gets to me at #11, which was where I was leaning. I won't draft Murray there. Forte in a non PPR, with Bush stealing goal line? not thrilled. Charles splitting with Hillis? Not thrilled. ADP off the injury? Not excited (unless he shows me something before the draft). MJD holdout? meh - doesn't score enough TD's for my liking anyway, think he will regress some. The difference makers I would covet here for RB's if DMC is gone is Mathews and Richardson, though both are nicked.

Here's how I think my draft would go (again non PPR, all 6 TD's, QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1 flex

Foster

Rice

McCoy

Rodgers

Brady

Calvin Johnson

Brees

Chris Johnson

McFadden

Forte, or if someone wants to be the smartest guy in the room I could see Julio Jones going here

That leaves all of the RB's with issues I mentioned above, but with the lack of depth I'll need to get one either at 11 or 14. Only QB I'd consider here is Stafford (I have doubts about Newton - owner at 12 will take him though), but not likely. Only WR I'd consider is Julio (won't take Fitz here), but not likely even though IMO he's a sure thing, just because there are so many receivers I could be happy with in rounds 3-6. So it's 2 of these RB's or 1 RB and Stafford. I'm almost thinking I have to go Mathews at one of those spots. Too risky with a rookie RB (no matter how heralded) missing all of preseason, isn't it?

 

[-jb-]

I think McFadden's impressive series ruined any chance that he gets to me at #11, which was where I was leaning. I won't draft Murray there. Forte in a non PPR, with Bush stealing goal line? not thrilled. Charles splitting with Hillis? Not thrilled. ADP off the injury? Not excited (unless he shows me something before the draft). MJD holdout? meh - doesn't score enough TD's for my liking anyway, think he will regress some. The difference makers I would covet here for RB's if DMC is gone is Mathews and Richardson, though both are nicked.Here's how I think my draft would go (again non PPR, all 6 TD's, QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1 flexFosterRiceMcCoyRodgersBradyCalvin JohnsonBreesChris JohnsonMcFaddenForte, or if someone wants to be the smartest guy in the room I could see Julio Jones going hereThat leaves all of the RB's with issues I mentioned above, but with the lack of depth I'll need to get one either at 11 or 14. Only QB I'd consider here is Stafford (I have doubts about Newton - owner at 12 will take him though), but not likely. Only WR I'd consider is Julio (won't take Fitz here), but not likely even though IMO he's a sure thing, just because there are so many receivers I could be happy with in rounds 3-6. So it's 2 of these RB's or 1 RB and Stafford. I'm almost thinking I have to go Mathews at one of those spots. Too risky with a rookie RB (no matter how heralded) missing all of preseason, isn't it?

Right there with you judge. 10-12 are rotten this year. I've been toying with taking Stafford and Gronkowski, then following up with Bradshaw and Martin. Otherwise, you just have to roll the dice on Mathews and/or Drew.

 

[Judge Smails]

I think McFadden's impressive series ruined any chance that he gets to me at #11, which was where I was leaning. I won't draft Murray there. Forte in a non PPR, with Bush stealing goal line? not thrilled. Charles splitting with Hillis? Not thrilled. ADP off the injury? Not excited (unless he shows me something before the draft). MJD holdout? meh - doesn't score enough TD's for my liking anyway, think he will regress some. The difference makers I would covet here for RB's if DMC is gone is Mathews and Richardson, though both are nicked.Here's how I think my draft would go (again non PPR, all 6 TD's, QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1 flexFosterRiceMcCoyRodgersBradyCalvin JohnsonBreesChris JohnsonMcFaddenForte, or if someone wants to be the smartest guy in the room I could see Julio Jones going hereThat leaves all of the RB's with issues I mentioned above, but with the lack of depth I'll need to get one either at 11 or 14. Only QB I'd consider here is Stafford (I have doubts about Newton - owner at 12 will take him though), but not likely. Only WR I'd consider is Julio (won't take Fitz here), but not likely even though IMO he's a sure thing, just because there are so many receivers I could be happy with in rounds 3-6. So it's 2 of these RB's or 1 RB and Stafford. I'm almost thinking I have to go Mathews at one of those spots. Too risky with a rookie RB (no matter how heralded) missing all of preseason, isn't it?

Right there with you judge. 10-12 are rotten this year. I've been toying with taking Stafford and Gronkowski, then following up with Bradshaw and Martin. Otherwise, you just have to roll the dice on Mathews and/or Drew.

I'm almost willing to say F it, have fun with players I want to watch, and take Julio and Stafford. I'm 100% confident they will both be great and provide an edge over the next tier. Can't tell you how many years I've had misery drafting 2nd tier RB's. The Corey Dillon's and Rashard Mendenhall's have been the bain of my existence at the lower end of the draft. If you draft Mathews you have to get Brown or the other guy, if you draft ADP you have to get Gerhart early, etc. As you can tell I'm all over the place.

 

[mphtrilogy]

Julio is going to be flying off the draft boards this year.....

 

[pantherclub]

Julio is going to be flying off the draft boards this year.....

I just cannot wrap my brain around that. Not that he is going to have a bad year just that he is going wr #2 right now. Simply insane.

 

[pantherclub]

My general rule is to draft best player available-- often that translates into taking the player with the biggest differential in projected points over the second-ranked player at his position. (i.e. if Trent Richardson is projected for 220 and Fred Jackson for 190, but there are 5 WRs projected at 210, I'll take Trent even though his projected points is slightly lower).

I've had 2 drafts, 2 late slots-- 9 and 11. I'll post my thoughts on #11 here, as I did with #9 (Drafting at #9).

first things first: 12-team, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 RB/WR, K, DEF

1.11- The first 9 picks were predictable (3 stud RBs, Calvin, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, DMAC and Chris Johnson) and there was 1 surprise (Andre Johnson). I was hoping that one of the QBs would fall to me so that I could play it differently this time around, but alas I'm forced to take Matt Forte as my #1 RB in back-to-back drafts. FBG has him #4 overall in PPR, so legit value here. Already I'm noticing a similar pattern to my #9 draft-- since one of the elite TEs will be available at 2.02, I will likely start off RB/TE again in this draft unless I can find some crazy value...

Selection: Matt Forte, RB, CHI

2.02- #12 took MJD and Murray on the turn, so I have both TEs available and a plethora of pretty good RBs that I don't think are worth 2.02, and Larry Fitzgerald. I decide to take an elite TE here, with the plan to start stock-piling RB/WR unless a QB falls to me that shouldn't.

Selection: Jimmy Graham, TE, NO

3.11- Like I've seen in mocks and real drafts, the mid-2nd round starts a run on WRs (9 taken from 2.09 to 3.08...including #1 overall taking Julio and Roddy at the turn. lol, I love it). Cam and Stafford also went before my pick, and surprisingly so did Philip Rivers. Lots of really nice RBs left...Ahmad Bradshaw lasted until 3.09..had my eye on him, but that's ok. There's still a guy that shouldn't be on the board.

Selection: Trent Richardson, RB, CLE

4.02- If you read my recap of the #9 position, you would know that I originally thought I could draft another RB at 4.02 and a WR would fall to me. Well, I know that won't happen now, especially being 2 picks further down the line when the 5th round comes. So I'm at 4.02 and Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, etc are still available. So I'm about to choose one, but I notice that Doug Martin's still on the board...not surprising since his ADP is 4.10...but the RB position is about to take a serious nosedive...to illustrate, there's a 40 point gap between Doug Martin and the 10th next best RB, and a 20 point gap between Hakeem Nicks and the 10th next best WR. So I do what any idiot would do...

Selection: Doug Martin, RB, TB

5.11- My plan at #4 centered on me taking the last of the 2nd/3rd tier RBs and having a WR fall to me at 5.11. There was one caveat- If I think Reggie Bush is available at 5.11, then I should take a WR at 4.02...but I just couldn't possibly envision Reggie Bush falling to 5.11, so that's why I drafted Doug Martin. So I'm watching Reggie Bush fall and fall and fall and I'm kinda getting pissed. If he falls to my 5th round pick, I obviously can't pick him because I already have 3RBs, but more importantly it meant I screwed up at 4.02. Luckily (I guess..?) he finally is drafted at 5.06 which means my plan was generally correct. I'm no doubt going WR here at 5.11..it's just a matter of who? On a prayer I was hoping Percy Harvin or Hakeem Nicks would be there. But they weren't. The usual guys got picked, and at 5.11 I had a choice of Steve Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Miles Austin, and guys ranked behind them. I have these three guys ahead of the next group (Lloyd, Decker, etc) by a nice margin so ideally I'll take 2 out of these 3...but #12 overall went RB/RB/RB/TE with his first 4 and I just know he's taking 2 at the turn.

Selection: Steve Johnson, WR, BUF

6.02- Just watch and wait to see which two WRs #12 selects...Vincent Jackson, damn...and...Pierre Garcon, yay! I'll take Miles Austin with my 6th pick and feel pretty good about it. Next up? QB...

Selection: Miles Austin, WR, DAL

7.11- Just as a recap, of the 10 teams selecting before me 7 have QBs already. So theoretically only 3 teams would need a QB before my 7th picks. Just so happens that Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, and Tony Romo are still on the board. After my 6.02 I sit quietly and hope that one of those fine QBs falls to me at 7.11....and we make it to 7.03 before all hell breaks loose...the Matt Stafford owner selects Matt Ryan at 7.03, Tony Romo goes at 7.04, Peyton Manning gets taken at 7.06, Eli Manning goes 7.08, and just for good measure the Phillip Rivers owner takes Big Ben at 7.10.

####!!

So I'm yelling at the computer when my wife walks in and asks, "What's wrong? Someone take your guy?". Yes. Yes they did. And I hate them for it.

Anyway, so the top remaining QBs are Robert Griffin III (who I actually really like), Jay Cutler, Matt Schaub...so I settle on RGIII. However, I notice that RGIII isn't even on the "top remaining QBs" list on the draft software, so I decide to gamble and hope the next guy doesn't take him. Instead, I take..

Selection: Reggie Wayne, WR, IND

8.02- I was right-- #12 took two puzzling WRs (Greg Little and Robert Meachem), which frees up RGIII for me. Not a bad position, honestly. I'll take another QB fairly quickly and do my QBBC thing.

Selection: Robert Griffin III, QB, WAS

9.11- Nothing exciting. Everybody was scooping up TEs and RBs that I didn't care about...

Selection: Jay Cutler, QB, CHI

10.02- Interesting note: I had my eye on Denarius Moore for the last 3 rounds. I had him last year and think he's going to do really well this year, but since I needed a QB badly I couldn't take him. Well he's still available, so I grab him.

Denarius Moore, WR, OAK

11.11- Part of the reason I took Moore at 10.02 is due to the amount of pretty good back-up RBs still available...Pierre Thomas, James Starks, Jacquizz Rodgers, Michael Bush, Shane Vereen, Ryan Williams were still on the board at 10.02...nothing super exciting but, I mean it's the 10th round. I took a shot at a WR hoping that one of those guys would be there at 11.11. And one was..

Selection: Ryan Williams, RB, ARI

The rest of my draft was boring...I did grab Brandon Lafell in the 14th, but everything else was DEF, K, RB5 and RB6.

After 1.5 hours, here's my team (week 1 starting lineup bolded)

QB- Robert Griffin III, Jay Cutler

RB- Matt Forte, Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, Ryan Williams, Jon Dwyer, Tim Hightower

WR- Steve Johnson, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Denarius Moore, Brandon Lafell

TE- Jimmy Graham

K- Gostkowski

DEF- Eagles

In conclusion- I like it. It's kinda old-school with the very strong RB corps. I think my strength at RB and TE, combined with a solid WR group (solid, not great) will help overcome a slight weakness at QB.

So you are hoping to win with 2 of your top 3 running backs being rookies and your top 2 wideouts are marginal at best. Good luck with that.edit after seeing Griffin is your starter. Christ Almighty dude.

 

[pantherclub]

4.02- If you read my recap of the #9 position, you would know that I originally thought I could draft another RB at 4.02 and a WR would fall to me. Well, I know that won't happen now, especially being 2 picks further down the line when the 5th round comes. So I'm at 4.02 and Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, etc are still available. So I'm about to choose one, but I notice that Doug Martin's still on the board...not surprising since his ADP is 4.10...but the RB position is about to take a serious nosedive...to illustrate, there's a 40 point gap between Doug Martin and the 10th next best RB, and a 20 point gap between Hakeem Nicks and the 10th next best WR. So I do what any idiot would do...

Selection: Doug Martin, RB, TB

Also where are you getting this 40 point gap between Martin and whoever?

 

[Rick James]

QB- Robert Griffin III, Jay Cutler

RB- Matt Forte, Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, Ryan Williams, Jon Dwyer, Tim Hightower

WR- Steve Johnson, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Denarius Moore, Brandon Lafell

TE- Jimmy Graham

K- Gostkowski

DEF- Eagles

In conclusion- I like it. It's kinda old-school with the very strong RB corps. I think my strength at RB and TE, combined with a solid WR group (solid, not great) will help overcome a slight weakness at QB.

So you are hoping to win with 2 of your top 3 running backs being rookies and your top 2 wideouts are marginal at best. Good luck with that.edit after seeing Griffin is your starter. Christ Almighty dude.

Don't know what to tell you, that's a solid team. Best projected RB corps in the whole league, stud TE, solid WRs, slight weakness at QB. y