I HOPE Detroit will go OT with the #1. It only makes sense (which of course means we won't do it). Trade for Cassel? Eh, I could see it happening, but man, I'm not completely convinced about him. Unless Detroit installs good coaches and really beefs up the O-line, Cassel, or any QB for that matter, will get absolutely killed. I would prefer we trade up a little from #20 and try to snag Bradford, if he still lingers in the teens. I'm willing to take a risk on him and start fresh. Otherwise, go defense with that pick, since we sorely need that, too, and maybe try for a QB in rounds 2+.Personally I think it would be a mistake for Denver to go RB in the first. They have major issues on defense, and need to address that immediately. They can get by with Hillis and others next year, or maybe address it in later rounds.I can see Crabtree going to Seattle...San Diego going RB in the first? Hmmm... interesting thought. I can see it, with an aging LT (who MAYBE has another 2-3 years at the most) and Sproles (who may or may not even re-sign with them). Hester? Puuuuhlease!If Stafford or Bradford are around when Minny picks, I absolutely see them going for one... otherwise, maybe WR...?Not much commentary on this one b/c it's early but McShay is wedded to Bradford at #1 (which is silly, even in the event Bradford comes out) and Stafford at #3 (which is worse b/c the Chiefs just hired a GM who had a hand in 3 Super Bowl wins on the back of a late round QB). ANyway...Have at it.***Detroit trades #20 overall and etc. for Matt Cassell. I believe that the Pats placed the tag on Cassell thinking it was likely that Detroit, with two #1's a new coach, and no QB, would be enticed in to trading for him.1. Detroit - Andre Smith - OT - Alabama2. St. Louis - Michael Oher - OT - Mississippi3. Kansas City - Aaron Curry - LB - Wake Forest4. Seattle - Michael Crabtree - WR - Texas Tech5. Cleveland - Jeremy Maclin - WR - Missouri6. Cincinnati - Brian Arakpo - DE - Texas7. Oakland - Malcolm Jenkins - CB - OSU8. Jacksonville - Vontae Davis - CB - Illinois9. Green Bay - Jermane Gresham - TE - OU10. San Fransisco - Sam Bradford - QB - OU11. Buffalo - Eugene Monroe - OT - UVA12. Denver - Chris Wells - RB - OSU13. Washington -Rey Mauluga - LB - USC14. New Orleans - Alphonso Smith - CB - Wake Forest15. Houston - James Laurinitis - LB - OSU 16. San Diego - Knowshon Moreno - RB - UGA17. New York Jets - Michael Johnson - DE - Georgia TEch18. Chicago - Jason Smith - OT - Baylor19. Tampa Bay - Will Moore - FS - Missouri20. New England*** (From Detroit from Dallas) - Percy Harvin - WR - Florida21. Philadelphia - B.J. Raji - DT - BC22. Minnesota - Matt Stafford - QB - UGA23. New England - Brandon Spikes - LB - UF24. Atlanta - Hakeem Nicks - WR - NC25. Miami - Duke Robinson - OG - OU26. Indianapolis - Sen'Derrick Marks - DT - AUburn27. Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Tytson Jackson - DE LSU28. New York Giants - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - OkStU29. Tennessee - Marcus Freeman - LB - OSU30. Pittsburgh - Greg Hardy - DE - Miss31. Arizona - Brian Cushing - LB - USC32. Baltimore - Jamon Meredith - OT - USC
No chance the Eagles take a DT or DE in the 1st round...They have 2 young starters in Bunkley/Patterson at DT and drafted Laws in the 2nd round last yearDE is set too.. and they have Bryan Smith who they like who didnt even playThe Eagles are drafting:a OTa TEa Safetyor maybe a guard if there was one Reid loved
I agree with your take Reaper,Another Tweener / Project / Convert to 3-4 OLB????I think the Gholston pick was kind of a luxury pick at a spot they didn't have a great need at - I can't see going down that road so soon again...They have much bigger needs - QB, ILB, CB, S, WR, I'd even continue beefing up the OL. And I'd really like Raji to groom and give relief to Jenkins in the middle...The 3-4 is such a mess without that monster player in the middle I'd personally draft Raji.Not much commentary on this one b/c it's early but McShay is wedded to Bradford at #1 (which is silly, even in the event Bradford comes out) and Stafford at #3 (which is worse b/c the Chiefs just hired a GM who had a hand in 3 Super Bowl wins on the back of a late round QB). ANyway...Have at it.***Detroit trades #20 overall and etc. for Matt Cassell. I believe that the Pats placed the tag on Cassell thinking it was likely that Detroit, with two #1's a new coach, and no QB, would be enticed in to trading for him.17. New York Jets - Michael Johnson - DE - Georgia TEch
I really don't see that as being too much of a reach. Defense (i.e. pass rush and secondary) is obviously their biggest need and I see the majority of their offseason addressing that side of the ball. Yet, the biggest bang for the buck the Pats could potentially get is adding another playmaker to that offense. Adding a player of Harvin's skill (i.e. someone who can go the distance every time he touches the ball) to Moss and Welker would be absolutely deadly. The Pats D is in transistion and having an offense that can really light it up alleviates some pressure as they work in youngsters and newly acquired veterans. While I'm a defense first advocate I think a pick like this makes a ton of sense.Agreed. I know BB & Urban are now BFFs, but I don't see them taking Harvin if they get an extra first. They would use both picks on D, likely a LB and DB.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
Lee is under contract for a year or two and they just drafted Finley in the 3rd round last year. No way do the grab a TE with the 9th pick. OL seems to be a fit here.Gresham at #9? Seems awfully high for a TE and the Packers have much bigger holes to fill on defense or the offensie line.
After the disaster known as Chad Jackson, I don't see the Pats investing in a UF receiver anytime soon.Come to think of it, UF receivers have been mostly disappointing for years. Here are all the UF receivers drafted in the past 25 years (and the number of 1,000 yard receiving seasons in the years they played) . . .2008 3-34 Andre Caldwell Bengals (0 of 1)2007 7-17 Dallas Baker Steelers (0 of 2)2006 2-4 Chad Jackson Patriots (0 of 3)2003 2-12 Taylor Jacobs Redskins (0 of 5)2002 2-1 Jabar Gaffney Texans (0 of 7)2002 2-16 Reche Caldwell Chargers (0 of 6)2001 7-8 John Capel Bears (DNP)2000 1-10 Travis Taylor Ravens (0 of 8)2000 3-18 Darrell Jackson Seahawks (3 of 9)1999 3-32 Travis McGriff Broncos (0 of 3)1998 2-4 Jacquez Green Buccaneers (0 of 5)1997 1-7 Ike Hilliard Giants (0 of 12)1997 1-16 Reidel Anthony Buccaneers (0 of 5)1996 6-18 Chris Doering Jaguars (0 of 6)1995 4-18 Jack Jackson Bears (0 of 1)1994 4-6 Willie Jackson Cowboys (1 of 8)1994 5-7 Harrison Houston Falcons (DNP)1991 3-18 Ernie Mills Steelers (0 of 9)1990 4-2 Stacey Simmons Colts (0 of 1)1990 9-25 Tony Lomack Rams (0 of 2)1989 12-14 Willie Snead Jets (DNP)1987 1-27 Ricky Nattiel Broncos (0 of 6)1986 7-21 Ray McDonald Patriots (DNP)1985 11-26 Gary Rolle Broncos (DNP)That's only 2 guys that had 1,000 yard seasons with a total of four 1,000 yard seasons out of 99 seasons played. Besides D-Jax, a couple of guys had a decent season here or there but overall this bunch has been pretty lackluster considering there were 9 guys drafted in the first or second rounds.Boston said:I really don't see that as being too much of a reach. Defense (i.e. pass rush and secondary) is obviously their biggest need and I see the majority of their offseason addressing that side of the ball. Yet, the biggest bang for the buck the Pats could potentially get is adding another playmaker to that offense. Adding a player of Harvin's skill (i.e. someone who can go the distance every time he touches the ball) to Moss and Welker would be absolutely deadly. The Pats D is in transistion and having an offense that can really light it up alleviates some pressure as they work in youngsters and newly acquired veterans. While I'm a defense first advocate I think a pick like this makes a ton of sense.tombonneau said:Agreed. I know BB & Urban are now BFFs, but I don't see them taking Harvin if they get an extra first. They would use both picks on D, likely a LB and DB.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
Same for Cleveland. I'd be floored if they took any Offensive player.There is ZERO chance the Falcons take a WR in the 1st round.
I should have stated in my post that my point isn't that they should specifically draft Harvin because I agree that UF Wrs have been very suspect at best. That being said I have no issue using a high pick on a player like Harvin (i.e. a playmaker whoever that may be). Adding another big play threat to the Patriot offense would really give defenses something to think about as well as giving them some more depth because if either Welker or Moss went down the Pats offense would take a huge hit.After the disaster known as Chad Jackson, I don't see the Pats investing in a UF receiver anytime soon.Come to think of it, UF receivers have been mostly disappointing for years. Here are all the UF receivers drafted in the past 25 years (and the number of 1,000 yard receiving seasons in the years they played) . . .2008 3-34 Andre Caldwell Bengals (0 of 1)2007 7-17 Dallas Baker Steelers (0 of 2)2006 2-4 Chad Jackson Patriots (0 of 3)2003 2-12 Taylor Jacobs Redskins (0 of 5)2002 2-1 Jabar Gaffney Texans (0 of 7)2002 2-16 Reche Caldwell Chargers (0 of 6)2001 7-8 John Capel Bears (DNP)2000 1-10 Travis Taylor Ravens (0 of 8)2000 3-18 Darrell Jackson Seahawks (3 of 9)1999 3-32 Travis McGriff Broncos (0 of 3)1998 2-4 Jacquez Green Buccaneers (0 of 5)1997 1-7 Ike Hilliard Giants (0 of 12)1997 1-16 Reidel Anthony Buccaneers (0 of 5)1996 6-18 Chris Doering Jaguars (0 of 6)1995 4-18 Jack Jackson Bears (0 of 1)1994 4-6 Willie Jackson Cowboys (1 of 8)1994 5-7 Harrison Houston Falcons (DNP)1991 3-18 Ernie Mills Steelers (0 of 9)1990 4-2 Stacey Simmons Colts (0 of 1)1990 9-25 Tony Lomack Rams (0 of 2)1989 12-14 Willie Snead Jets (DNP)1987 1-27 Ricky Nattiel Broncos (0 of 6)1986 7-21 Ray McDonald Patriots (DNP)1985 11-26 Gary Rolle Broncos (DNP)That's only 2 guys that had 1,000 yard seasons with a total of four 1,000 yard seasons out of 99 seasons played. Besides D-Jax, a couple of guys had a decent season here or there but overall this bunch has been pretty lackluster considering there were 9 guys drafted in the first or second rounds.Boston said:I really don't see that as being too much of a reach. Defense (i.e. pass rush and secondary) is obviously their biggest need and I see the majority of their offseason addressing that side of the ball. Yet, the biggest bang for the buck the Pats could potentially get is adding another playmaker to that offense. Adding a player of Harvin's skill (i.e. someone who can go the distance every time he touches the ball) to Moss and Welker would be absolutely deadly. The Pats D is in transistion and having an offense that can really light it up alleviates some pressure as they work in youngsters and newly acquired veterans. While I'm a defense first advocate I think a pick like this makes a ton of sense.tombonneau said:Agreed. I know BB & Urban are now BFFs, but I don't see them taking Harvin if they get an extra first. They would use both picks on D, likely a LB and DB.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
I think the Pats have much bigger fish to fry and they could add another receiving threat via free agency or trade (or even a later round pick). I would be very surprised if the Pats take a first round receiver, even if they end up with more than one first round pick. The WR the Pats have taken in the draft have not been immediate impact guys, and at this point I think they need players that could contribute sooner rather than later. We'll see, as we all know the Pats are hard to predice when it comes to drafting.I should have stated in my post that my point isn't that they should draft Harvin because I agree that UF Wrs have been very suspect at best. That being said I have no issue using a high pick on a player like Harvin (i.e. a playmaker whoever that may be). Adding another big play threat to the Patriot offense would really give defenses something to think about as well as giving them some more depth because if either Welker or Moss went down the Pats offense would take a huge hit.
*I think it should be a playmaker. Whether that's a WR or a RB I don't care.*I would not use a #1 on a player like this unless they felt he could contribute immediately.*Whether it's thru the draft, free agency or trade I feel very strongly that they need another offensive threat. Right now if either Welker or Moss got hut they would be screwed. Defenses could double-team either Moss and Welker and the Pats would be in a very difficult situation as their remaining offensive skill position players are of the role-player varietal.*Obviously defense is and should be their #1 priority. That being said they really need to make sure that their O doesn't take a step backwards because right now it's able to cover up some defensive deficiencies. With their tough schedule they need to make sure their O is humming right from game one as my guess is it will take a little while for the D to gel.*With the selection of a LB at #10 the last barrier for Patriot drafting was broken. Absolutely anything is possible and nothing would surprise me.I think the Pats have much bigger fish to fry and they could add another receiving threat via free agency or trade (or even a later round pick). I would be very surprised if the Pats take a first round receiver, even if they end up with more than one first round pick. The WR the Pats have taken in the draft have not been immediate impact guys, and at this point I think they need players that could contribute sooner rather than later. We'll see, as we all know the Pats are hard to predice when it comes to drafting.I should have stated in my post that my point isn't that they should draft Harvin because I agree that UF Wrs have been very suspect at best. That being said I have no issue using a high pick on a player like Harvin (i.e. a playmaker whoever that may be). Adding another big play threat to the Patriot offense would really give defenses something to think about as well as giving them some more depth because if either Welker or Moss went down the Pats offense would take a huge hit.
Yea that. LT is a dire need in Jacksonville currently. Also, between Mathis, Florence, B. Williams and Nelson they already have ton of money tied up in the secondary. They are still under performing, but with many other needs I'd expect them to hope for improvement in the already highly compensated DBs and address other needs in round 1.Pretty good mock here Abraham. Just a glaring mistake for your Jags pick. With Khalif Barnes being a FA this offseason, coupled with his previous history with the city of Jacksonville (arrest/racist claims), if Eugene Monroe is sitting there availible at the 8th pick, the Jaguars will RUN not walk to pick him up. Especially if Malcolm Jenkins is off the board. At #8 only Jenkins has the talent to unseat OT as the #1 off season priority for the Jags. Not to mention that Pass Blocking was a weak point for Khalif Barnes. Monroe would address that need in a huge way.
WRs have done better than the UF QBs.After the disaster known as Chad Jackson, I don't see the Pats investing in a UF receiver anytime soon.Come to think of it, UF receivers have been mostly disappointing for years.Boston said:I really don't see that as being too much of a reach. Defense (i.e. pass rush and secondary) is obviously their biggest need and I see the majority of their offseason addressing that side of the ball. Yet, the biggest bang for the buck the Pats could potentially get is adding another playmaker to that offense. Adding a player of Harvin's skill (i.e. someone who can go the distance every time he touches the ball) to Moss and Welker would be absolutely deadly. The Pats D is in transistion and having an offense that can really light it up alleviates some pressure as they work in youngsters and newly acquired veterans. While I'm a defense first advocate I think a pick like this makes a ton of sense.tombonneau said:Agreed. I know BB & Urban are now BFFs, but I don't see them taking Harvin if they get an extra first. They would use both picks on D, likely a LB and DB.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.
I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
You may be right about a trade down. But if he doesn't he'd better pick someone high profile because a top 10 pick demands big money. I'm not sure a guard is worth top 10 money. Jason Smith, maybe, Robinson, I doubt it.Wisconsin cheesehead here..Since the WR and TE position is considered as one of the strongest positions for the team, Packers will not select Gresham with #9 nor select any other WR's. By any circumstances if Crabtree or Maclin slides down to #9, Trader Ted will trade down for an extra pick.My gut feeling tells me Ted will go for the trenches by selecting either OL or DL in 1st round. Clifton and Tauscher are free agents and both are past their prime. This situation reminds me of when Rivera, Flanagan, and Wahle became free agents a few years ago and they were let go even though they were well-liked by the team and fans. The performance of Colledge, Spitz, and Moll at OG leaves a lot to be desired. Here is my prediction: If Trader Ted doesn't trade #9, GB will select Jason Smith. Duke Robinson is a sleeper pick pending combine results.
Cleveland doesn't need a WR, they need DB's in the worst way..which means Malcolm Jenkins..GB doesn't need a TE , what they really need is defensive help..Rey Mauluga - LB - USCNot much commentary on this one b/c it's early but McShay is wedded to Bradford at #1 (which is silly, even in the event Bradford comes out) and Stafford at #3 (which is worse b/c the Chiefs just hired a GM who had a hand in 3 Super Bowl wins on the back of a late round QB). ANyway...
Have at it.
***Detroit trades #20 overall and etc. for Matt Cassell. I believe that the Pats placed the tag on Cassell thinking it was likely that Detroit, with two #1's a new coach, and no QB, would be enticed in to trading for him.
1. Detroit - Andre Smith - OT - Alabama
2. St. Louis - Michael Oher - OT - Mississippi
3. Kansas City - Aaron Curry - LB - Wake Forest
4. Seattle - Michael Crabtree - WR - Texas Tech
5. Cleveland - Jeremy Maclin - WR - Missouri
6. Cincinnati - Brian Arakpo - DE - Texas
7. Oakland - Malcolm Jenkins - CB - OSU
8. Jacksonville - Vontae Davis - CB - Illinois
9. Green Bay - Jermane Gresham - TE - OU
10. San Fransisco - Sam Bradford - QB - OU
11. Buffalo - Eugene Monroe - OT - UVA
12. Denver - Chris Wells - RB - OSU
13. Washington -Rey Mauluga - LB - USC
14. New Orleans - Alphonso Smith - CB - Wake Forest
15. Houston - James Laurinitis - LB - OSU
16. San Diego - Knowshon Moreno - RB - UGA
17. New York Jets - Michael Johnson - DE - Georgia TEch
18. Chicago - Jason Smith - OT - Baylor
19. Tampa Bay - Will Moore - FS - Missouri
20. New England*** (From Detroit from Dallas) - Percy Harvin - WR - Florida
21. Philadelphia - B.J. Raji - DT - BC
22. Minnesota - Matt Stafford - QB - UGA
23. New England - Brandon Spikes - LB - UF
24. Atlanta - Hakeem Nicks - WR - NC
25. Miami - Duke Robinson - OG - OU
26. Indianapolis - Sen'Derrick Marks - DT - AUburn
27. Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Tytson Jackson - DE LSU
28. New York Giants - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - OkStU
29. Tennessee - Marcus Freeman - LB - OSU
30. Pittsburgh - Greg Hardy - DE - Miss
31. Arizona - Brian Cushing - LB - USC
32. Baltimore - Jamon Meredith - OT - USC
David, who do you like at 20 and 23? I'm assuming the Florida comment was based on Chad being a bust? Harvin is intriguing to me because Gaffney, Stallworth, etc. have not added much value to Moss/Welker but a speedy little freak like Harvin could be a nice Reggie Bush kinda guy. I also LOVE Brandon Spikes at 23, assuming he lasts that long. Guy's got a MOTOR.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
Clifton is not yet a free agent.From what I read though, they will know by mini camps if Clifton is ready to go and over the nagging injuries and that they would not be caught like they were last year with no replacement for KGB.Flanagan was not yet a free agent when Wahle and Rivera were let go. Actually, I think only one of them were free agents and they cut the other for cap space (could be wrong on the last part). Flanagan was let go the next year I believe after a year of nagging injuries. He and Rivera did not last long after leaving GB. Wahle had some good years yet in Carolina before being cut last year and signed by Seattle.Wisconsin cheesehead here..Since the WR and TE position is considered as one of the strongest positions for the team, Packers will not select Gresham with #9 nor select any other WR's. By any circumstances if Crabtree or Maclin slides down to #9, Trader Ted will trade down for an extra pick.My gut feeling tells me Ted will go for the trenches by selecting either OL or DL in 1st round. Clifton and Tauscher are free agents and both are past their prime. This situation reminds me of when Rivera, Flanagan, and Wahle became free agents a few years ago and they were let go even though they were well-liked by the team and fans. The performance of Colledge, Spitz, and Moll at OG leaves a lot to be desired. Here is my prediction: If Trader Ted doesn't trade #9, GB will select Jason Smith. Duke Robinson is a sleeper pick pending combine results.On the side note: Lions are known for being draft buffoons so I'll put my money on Detroit making a risky pick with Stafford.
I would think the Pats most pressing needs are LB and DB and with some of their big guns on the verge of free agency DL and OL after that. IMO, the Pats offense is fine if Brady is back but the defense is in need of some major revamping in the next year or two or they will have several guys deep playing the back nine of their careers.As far as taking a receiver early, I don't think the Pats had great luck in taking Chad Jackson or Bethel Johnson. I would guess they would look to either get someone in a trade or a free agent (or maybe wait a bit and draft someone in the middle rounds).So unless they make a play to get Crabtree, I doubt they would take one of the other guys.David, who do you like at 20 and 23? I'm assuming the Florida comment was based on Chad being a bust? Harvin is intriguing to me because Gaffney, Stallworth, etc. have not added much value to Moss/Welker but a speedy little freak like Harvin could be a nice Reggie Bush kinda guy. I also LOVE Brandon Spikes at 23, assuming he lasts that long. Guy's got a MOTOR.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
No chance the Eagles take a DT or DE in the 1st round...They have 2 young starters in Bunkley/Patterson at DT and drafted Laws in the 2nd round last yearDE is set too.. and they have Bryan Smith who they like who didnt even playThe Eagles are drafting:a OTa TEa Safetyor maybe a guard if there was one Reid lovedThrow in a CB if a good one falls.
Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Well that argument's air-tight.Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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So what makes Bradford #1 or 1.01 pick in your air tight mind?Well that argument's air-tight.Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy believes right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Read the bolded type above and the emoticon immediately below it.You're welcome.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy beleives right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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Ok, so you don't agree with me that Bradford will be at best a backup QB. 2010 we will get are answer.Read the bolded type above and the emoticon immediately below it.You're welcome.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy beleives right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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As a rookie? Maybe. But I don't think he will be a career backup.Ok, so you don't agree with me that Bradford will be at best a backup QB. 2010 we will get are answer.Read the bolded type above and the emoticon immediately below it.You're welcome.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy beleives right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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OK, Do you think Bradford will be the first player picked in the 2010 NFL Draft or any rookie draft in 2010, like Andy is saying?As a rookie? Maybe. But I don't think he will be a career backup.Ok, so you don't agree with me that Bradford will be at best a backup QB. 2010 we will get are answer.Read the bolded type above and the emoticon immediately below it.You're welcome.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy beleives right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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I'm saying he will not make it at the next level. 2009, 2010 or 2020. Backup yes. Starter no way.It's possible. To be honest, I think it is WAY to early to predict 2010's draft.
If they ended up with two firsts and two seconds I would hope they draft their receiver in the 2nd round. They do need to groom someone behind Moss and Welker. It didn't do Chad Jackson much good but by all accounts Moss tried to help him get better and Welker would have him working with the Soccer Ball right off the bat.If the Pats had 20 and 23 is there a defensive lineman worth moving up for? With Seymour passed his prime and likely looking for more $$$ (he is signed through 2009) and a lack of upside depth on the roster I could imagine them trying to pick up a potential starter for the defensive line.While the Cassel to DET trade makes sense (which by extension means it likely wouldn't happen), the LAST postion I see NE taking is a WR, especially a Florida one at that.
I agree that the QBs are a bit overhyped. If Sanchez comes out where would you slot him?
Oh good. I was wondering who we were supposed to talk to when we wanted our own opinions. Good to know it's you.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy believes right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?![]()
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You just gave me a great idea. ThanksOh good. I was wondering who we were supposed to talk to when we wanted our own opinions. Good to know it's you.How are you agreeing with Andy? Andy believes right now Bradford is the best College player coming out, or would have been. My point is,so why is Bradford not coming out. Answer Bradford is not close to being ready, that is my point. Thus, not that it matters, you agree with me. So thanks.I was agreeing w/ Andy. I don't think Bradford is #1 pick material right now but I would not just disregard his abilities completely.Maroney=Speed said:Thanks. Most just don't see or understand that a QB that plays in a shot-gun formation all the time, just can't make it at the next level. Does Kolb come to mind? How many others. Bradford if he really was going to be the #1 overall pick, do you really think he would stay in school? I think not.Buffaloes said:Andy Dufresne said:Maroney=Speed said:Well the good thing is Bradford is staying in school. The bad news is you had him #1. He will at best be a backup QB at the next level. So Bradford did the correct thing.I have Bradford at #1 too. What does that make me?:(
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