Hernandez convicted of first-degree murder; found deceased in his cell. (3 Viewers)

[Grigs Allmoon]

Aaron Hernandez case changing NFL draft evaluations

In wake of Hernandez, NFL teams will investigate tattoos

Carolina Panthers, other NFL teams delve deeper into player backgrounds

Yeah, well this would all make for a credible argument if, you know...people were actually discussing this here. But, this is all about the court case and a platform for Sarnoff to engage in his shtick.

Evveryone else is OK with it....except you....think about it for a couple minutes.

Or... Find another message board that doesn't allow such travesties.

 

[RUSF18]

I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.

Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.

I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.

As long as you hang up.

Once this thread gets moved to its rightful place, I will.

Your turn.

Keep on bumping!

 

[Shutout]

Someone's having a bad day

Your Icon cracks me up because you sometimes say things that match the expression on Fester's face.

Uh OH! That probably isn't football relevant *hides from Cobalt*

 

[KCitons]

Someone's having a bad day

Your Icon cracks me up because you sometimes say things that match the expression on Fester's face.

Uh OH! That probably isn't football relevant *hides from Cobalt*

Sadly, that's what I really look like.

 

[Shutout]

Someone's having a bad day

Your Icon cracks me up because you sometimes say things that match the expression on Fester's face.

Uh OH! That probably isn't football relevant *hides from Cobalt*

Sadly, that's what I really look like.

Not sure if serious.... See what I did there?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.

Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.

I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.

As long as you hang up.

Once this thread gets moved to its rightful place, I will.

Your turn.

Keep on bumping!

Cobalt is doing a jedi mind trick here. He knows he's topping the thread, and keeping a conversation going, because he loves the thread. Just like NFL coaches, don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he does.

 

[KCitons]

Someone's having a bad day

Your Icon cracks me up because you sometimes say things that match the expression on Fester's face.

Uh OH! That probably isn't football relevant *hides from Cobalt*

Sadly, that's what I really look like.

Not sure if serious.... See what I did there?

I wish I wasn't

Everybody looks like someone. I don't look like brad pitt

 

[mad sweeney]

I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.

Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.

I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.

I challenge you to just stay out of the thread if you don't like it. Also, I challenge you to not put question marks at the end of a statement. As for your challenge, it's on the NFL Network. By definition that makes it NFL related. Now run along and stop looking in threads that bother you.

 

[KCitons]

I wonder if it's too soon for NFL Network to do "A Football Life" or ESPN to do a "30 for 30" episode on AH.

Whenever it comes out, should be interesting.

 

[PatsFanCT]

I wonder if it's too soon for NFL Network to do "A Football Life" or ESPN to do a "30 for 30" episode on AH.

Whenever it comes out, should be interesting.

Well, it's definitely too soon. How would it end? But I agree, it should be a good one.

 

[KCitons]

I wonder if it's too soon for NFL Network to do "A Football Life" or ESPN to do a "30 for 30" episode on AH.

Whenever it comes out, should be interesting.

Well, it's definitely too soon. How would it end? But I agree, it should be a good one.

With AH behind bars. I think we've seen the end already. The rest is just filler.

 

[Faust]

Report: NFLPA to file grievance against Pats for Hernandez money

They have to do it.

It is now official:

Report: NFLPA files grievance to collect $82K for Aaron Hernandez

 

[Faust]

Report: Aaron Hernandez was heavy drug user and paranoid

By John Breech | CBSSports.com
August 27, 2013 11:03 pm ET

Since being arrested in June, Aaron Hernandez has written several jailhouse letters and in one of those letters he insisted that he's a 'great dude.' If you have a hard time believing Hernandez is a 'great dude' you're going to have an even harder time after reading new evidence uncovered by Rolling Stone.

In what could turn out to be a bombshell article, the magazine will be publishing a cover story on Hernandez in its October issue. The magazine released a small preview of the story on Tuesday, a preview that will probably make you want to read the entire article.

Here are five revelations from the preview:

• Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust (PCP), and had become so paranoid over the last year that he carried a gun wherever he went.
  
• He surrounded himself with a cohort of gangsters, and cut himself off from his family and teammates.
  
• Hernandez had so infuriated his head coach, Bill Belichick, with missed practices and thug-life stunts, that he was one misstep from being cut.
  
• Both his parents, Dennis and Terri, had criminal records, as did much of his extended family.
  
• Terri allegedly cheated on Dennis before his death with a violent drug dealer named Jeffrey Cummings, then married Cummings after Dennis died and moved him into the house she shared with Aaron.

Although Rolling Stone only promised five revelations, they delivered on a sixth one and the sixth one might be the most damning.

From Rolling Stone:

In college [Hernandez's] coach [then-University of Florida head coach Urban Meyer] may have helped cover up failed drug tests, along with
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-ruptured-mans-eardrum-in-2007-wasnt-arrestedhttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-ruptured-mans-eardrum-in-2007-wasnt-arrestedtwo violent incidents
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-ruptured-mans-eardrum-in-2007-wasnt-arrestedhttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-ruptured-mans-eardrum-in-2007-wasnt-arrested -- an assault and a drive-by shootout outside a local bar.

Unlike the first five revelations though, the magazine doesn't seem as sure about the Meyer revelation, using the word 'MAY have helped' isn't exactly an indictment on Meyer, so it will be definitely be interesting to see what exactly the magazine found to make the connection that Meyer covered-up anything for Hernandez.

Rolling Stone hasn't announced a release date for the Hernandez issue, but it will be on newsstands sometime in September.

Hernandez, who's facing a first-degree murder charge in the death of Odin Lloyd, is due back in court for an arraignment on Sept. 6.

 

[cstu]

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust (PCP), and had become so paranoid over the last year that he carried a gun wherever he went.

This clears up a lot.

 

[Run It Up]

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust (PCP), and had become so paranoid over the last year that he carried a gun wherever he went.

This clears up a lot.

I was always curious how someone could be so impossibly dumb. Oddly enough I never considered drugs, I just figured he was an egomaniac/sociopath.

 

[bucsbaby]

I had speculated earlier about schizophrenia, due to the paranoia, impossibly dumb behaviour, etc. Heavy drug use can exhibit similar symptoms and can also trigger/be linked to the onset of schizophrenia or similar serious mental health problems. Not saying he has schizophrenia, just that the heavy drug use does clear up a lot in terms of his behaviour.

 

[msommer]

I guess they don't test for PCP in the substance abuse program

 

[cobalt_27]

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust (PCP), and had become so paranoid over the last year that he carried a gun wherever he went.

This clears up a lot.

I was always curious how someone could be so impossibly dumb. Oddly enough I never considered drugs, I just figured he was an egomaniac/sociopath.

I think it's most likely a healthy combination of both.

 

[FF Ninja]

First, Cobalt is right. This thread isn't really about football anymore and should be moved to the FFA. The ignorant argument of "if you don't like it, don't click it" is obviously flawed or else they wouldn't have separate forums such as the AC or the FFA. It would all be one big cluster **** but it would be cool because you just don't click on the ones you don't want to read, right? Of course not, so please punch yourself in the face if you've ever used that stupid logic.

But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

 

[Otis]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

 

[Tool]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

 

[FF Ninja]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

It's funny that losers who need people to chat with about the news come to a fantasy football board to do it.

 

[cobalt_27]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Just post what you want and let the mods sort it out.

 

[Amused to Death]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

A lot of people are. It seems the guidelines stopped being enforced about 2 years ago in my estimation. The moderation has gone downhill, considerably.

 

[unckeyherb]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Do you really see the bolded and the topic in this thread as being equally unrelated to football?

Also, you asked before about a scenario where this could still relate to football...what if either side's witness lists include former team mates to testify? Is it possible that through the course of college and professional football, a team mate could have been witness to or even...involved...in illegal activity with Hernandez, possibly even related to this case? I don't doubt any NFL player's propensity to be involved in bone-headed activity.

 

[KCitons]

Just finished reading the Rolling Stone article. A couple of random thoughts.

The author seemed to take some shots at BB and Meyer. The article lost a little credibility by doing this. Just report the facts and leave the name calling out of it.

They keep mentioning that AH was seen leaving the house with a Glock .45. The exact same caliber as the casing found in the car and the caliber used to kill Lloyd. A lot of handguns are manufactured in multiple calibers. I'm not sure you would be able to discern a 9mm, .40 cal or .45 glock at a distance of over 6 feet. They use very similar parts, it's mainly the barrel and the inner action that is altered.

I will be curious to watch when this goes to trial. With the technology in use today, it will be really interesting to see all the video footage the prosecution has. It will be like the OJ trial X 100

 

[Mister CIA]

My projections for Aaron Hernandez:

0 catches

0 yards

0 touchdowns

What are the rest of you guys projecting (besides tears and emotions)?

 

[GregR]

...But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

Yes, this was the part that made me

I'm curious to see what they say as their sources for this. It doesn't seem to fit with the very recent big time extension he was given.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Do you really see the bolded and the topic in this thread as being equally unrelated to football?

Also, you asked before about a scenario where this could still relate to football...what if either side's witness lists include former team mates to testify? Is it possible that through the course of college and professional football, a team mate could have been witness to or even...involved...in illegal activity with Hernandez, possibly even related to this case? I don't doubt any NFL player's propensity to be involved in bone-headed activity.

I heard Eddie Vedder wrote the lyrics to Yellow Ledbetter when watching the Seahawks take a dive in the 2nd half of the 1991 season.

 

[RUSF18]

...But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

Yes, this was the part that made me

I'm curious to see what they say as their sources for this. It doesn't seem to fit with the very recent big time extension he was given.

Not to mention that they have quotes of a conversation between Hernandez and Belichick. We know Hernandez didn't provide it, and I have a slight suspicion that BB didn't sit down for this article.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

...But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

Yes, this was the part that made me

I'm curious to see what they say as their sources for this. It doesn't seem to fit with the very recent big time extension he was given.

Not to mention that they have quotes of a conversation between Hernandez and Belichick. We know Hernandez didn't provide it, and I have a slight suspicion that BB didn't sit down for this article.

I don't think anyone believed that part. So BB was close to cutting Hernandez before all this stuff, but he didn't during the window of the suspicion but not yet arrested and then finally dropped the hammer after he was arrested? Nah. That's fiction.

 

[Sarnoff]

My projections for Aaron Hernandez:

0 catches

0 yards

0 touchdowns

What are the rest of you guys projecting (besides tears and emotions)?

Agree for this season, obv.

I think there's a chance he catches on with OAK or GB after his acquittal, though.

 

[GregR]

...But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

Yes, this was the part that made me

I'm curious to see what they say as their sources for this. It doesn't seem to fit with the very recent big time extension he was given.

Not to mention that they have quotes of a conversation between Hernandez and Belichick. We know Hernandez didn't provide it, and I have a slight suspicion that BB didn't sit down for this article.

I haven't seen the article to know what the conversation was. But according to tweets, the conversation was apparently one reported by Albert Breer back in July.

 

[Koya]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

The Hawks can peel out some important fantasy knowledge from this.

 

[PatsFanCT]

My projections for Aaron Hernandez:

0 catches

0 yards

0 touchdowns

What are the rest of you guys projecting (besides tears and emotions)?

Agree for this season, obv.

I think there's a chance he catches on with OAK or GB after his acquittal, though.

This Shick alone makes it a Football related topic.

 

[mad sweeney]

It's funny to me that the fantasy nerds get all bent out of shape about this thread being in here. They must have a special Chrome macro set up--and which they can't figure out how to disable--that auto-clicks this thread every they they come to the site.

Christ. Relax.

But...But...It's not about fantasy football.

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

What do PJ and CoD have to do with the NFL? This is a former player, a current investigation into an NFL team and the leagu itself, both criminally and ethically. If you're going to try and back up a weak and whiny (and also incorrect) complaint, then at least use examples that have at least as much to do with football and the NFL as a story that's being followed by all news outlets as part of their NFL coverage, involves an NFL player still covered by the NFL CBA, the NFLPA, an NFL team and the image of the NFL as a whole. The whining about moving this thread is at about the level of stupidity that got AH arrested.

 

[RUSF18]

I haven't seen the article to know what the conversation was. But according to tweets, the conversation was apparently one reported by Albert Breer back in July.

Interesting, thanks.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Here's an article about the Hernandez situation from this week at NFL.com. When NFL.com starts covering Pearl Jam, people may post about it in the Shark Pool.

 

[elshagon]

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Here's an article about the Hernandez situation from this week at NFL.com. When NFL.com starts covering Pearl Jam, people may post about it in the Shark Pool.

Here's an article from NFL.com covering Pearl Jam

 

[mbuehner]

3 pages of arguing about protocol is SURELY more relevant than discussing the circumstances of one of the elite players of the games arrest for murder.

Per Rolling Stone:

"In college his coach (then-University of Florida head coach Urban Meyer) may have helped cover up failed drug tests, along with two violent incidents — an assault and a drive-by shootout outside a local bar."

For those keeping track- thats Urban Meyer the current head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes. Some current potentially relevant fantasy names that he coached at Florida include Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, Reggie Nelson, and of course Tim Tebow. That cast a shadow on any of those guys?

Farfetched?

"According to ABC News, a man in the car that was shot up nearly six years ago in Gainesville initially identified Reggie Nelson as being with the shooter. That’s Reggie Nelson. As in current Bengals safety Reggie Nelson."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/04/mike-brown-should-have-a-sit-down-with-reggie-nelson/

It shouldn't impinge every player related to Hernandez or Meyer, but you can bet reporters are going to be descending on Gainesville (and Columbus) digging for any dirt they can uncover.

Just something you may wish to monitor.

 

[Mister CIA]

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Here's an article about the Hernandez situation from this week at NFL.com. When NFL.com starts covering Pearl Jam, people may post about it in the Shark Pool.

Here's an article from NFL.com covering Pearl Jam

The thread hijacking in this forum is out of control!

Now, anyone else care to discuss AH fantasy projections.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

3 pages of arguing about protocol is SURELY more relevant than discussing the circumstances of one of the elite players of the games arrest for murder.

Per Rolling Stone:

"In college his coach (then-University of Florida head coach Urban Meyer) may have helped cover up failed drug tests, along with two violent incidents — an assault and a drive-by shootout outside a local bar."

For those keeping track- thats Urban Meyer the current head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes. Some current potentially relevant fantasy names that he coached at Florida include Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, Reggie Nelson, and of course Tim Tebow. That cast a shadow on any of those guys?

Farfetched?

"According to ABC News, a man in the car that was shot up nearly six years ago in Gainesville initially identified Reggie Nelson as being with the shooter. That’s Reggie Nelson. As in current Bengals safety Reggie Nelson."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/04/mike-brown-should-have-a-sit-down-with-reggie-nelson/

It shouldn't impinge every player related to Hernandez or Meyer, but you can bet reporters are going to be descending on Gainesville (and Columbus) digging for any dirt they can uncover.

Just something you may wish to monitor.

So if Urban Meyer might have known about Hernandez' character much less the specific actions of Hernandez, and BB and Urban Meyer had a close relationship (enough that Meyer/BB regularly met about Gator football players and visited each other) then does it makes sense to think that BB had no idea about Hernandez' character?

 

[pghrob]

http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle

 

[cstu]

My projections for Aaron Hernandez:

0 catches

0 yards

0 touchdowns

What are the rest of you guys projecting (besides tears and emotions)?

Agree for this season, obv.

I think there's a chance he catches on with OAK or GB after his acquittal, though.

Cincy so they go with their 4 TE set.

 

[Hoss Style]

Just finished reading the Rolling Stone article. A couple of random thoughts.

The author seemed to take some shots at BB and Meyer. The article lost a little credibility by doing this. Just report the facts and leave the name calling out of it.

They keep mentioning that AH was seen leaving the house with a Glock .45. The exact same caliber as the casing found in the car and the caliber used to kill Lloyd. A lot of handguns are manufactured in multiple calibers. I'm not sure you would be able to discern a 9mm, .40 cal or .45 glock at a distance of over 6 feet. They use very similar parts, it's mainly the barrel and the inner action that is altered.

I will be curious to watch when this goes to trial. With the technology in use today, it will be really interesting to see all the video footage the prosecution has. It will be like the OJ trial X 100

Haven't read the article yet - thanks for the insight on the gun stuff.

 

[cstu]

...But on a football related note, given the quote below, why the hell did they give AH the extension in the first place? It doesn't sound like his thug antics were a new development. I mean, they just gave him the extension like 9-10 months before this story broke, right?

The other detail Rolling Stone released is that Bill Belichick was infuriated with Hernandez's "missed practices and thug-life stunts" and was close to cutting his star tight end. That helps explain why the Patriots cut Hernandez almost immediately after he was arrested at his house.

Yes, this was the part that made me

I'm curious to see what they say as their sources for this. It doesn't seem to fit with the very recent big time extension he was given.

Not to mention that they have quotes of a conversation between Hernandez and Belichick. We know Hernandez didn't provide it, and I have a slight suspicion that BB didn't sit down for this article.

I haven't seen the article to know what the conversation was. But according to tweets, the conversation was apparently one reported by Albert Breer back in July.

Hernandez already had his new contract when this was going on:

Sources close to the tight end add that throughout the spring, when players are expected to be preparing themselves for the marathon NFL season, Hernandez had missed workouts and sessions with a rehab trainer, and had been told by his head coach, Bill Belichick, that he was one misstep from being cut.

 

[cstu]

One thing's for sure after reading the RS article...the Aaron Hernandez Story is going to be one helluva movie.

 

[mad sweeney]

It's not about football either. I'm just confused about the guidelines here. Because if we can start posting about Pearl Jam and the upcoming COD release in the Shark Pool, let's do it. I just was under the assumption Joe deemed it all Serious Business when it came to the SP and discussing football.

Here's an article about the Hernandez situation from this week at NFL.com. When NFL.com starts covering Pearl Jam, people may post about it in the Shark Pool.

Here's an article from NFL.com covering Pearl Jam

That's not actually covering PJ. It's covering the SB halftime show.

 

[Hoss Style]

With all the new stuff coming out, I don't know how anyone can say this is not a football story, as well.

What did BB know? What did the organization know? BB is supposed to be tight with Urban (I think he got recommendations from Urban in the past about players, spends time with him in the offseason) so what, if anything did Urban know about and did he communicate any of it to BB? Any other current/former NFL players going to be involved in the case as witnesses or more?

I think the s**ts about to hit the fan, especially with the history of Meyer and how he's been a bit cocky in the past when asked about his player's behavior.