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He's never gonna get that this year (1 Viewer)

chris1969

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Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion

 
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Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
I'll go with Santana Moss. With the addition of Randle El and Lloyd, they have a little more options to rely on. I still think Moss will have a very good year, but not 1400 yards and 9 TD's.
 
Antonio Gates. He scored on 75% of his red zone opportunities in 2005; won't happen without a seasoned QB.

 
Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
Even if Everything was the same as last year, do you really think back to back 27 rushing TD's are realistic?I don't think you are really going out on a limb there by claiming that.

 
Santana Moss for sure. I also don't believe that Galloway will come close to what he did last year either.

 
I think its pretty safe to say that Steve Smith will not be hauling in 103 receptions this season. He won't see as many targets with the addition of Keyshawn Johnson. The running game should also be better.

 
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Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
Well, even if he drops by 33%, he'll still be near 20 TDs. He careered it last year, but is still worthy of a #3 pick, IMO. 4 minimum.
 
LaDanian Tomlinson.

No WAY he gets 50 receptions this year.....

As Rivers' main dump off valve, I think 70 receptions are his floor this year

:thumbup:

 
Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
Even if Everything was the same as last year, do you really think back to back 27 rushing TD's are realistic?I don't think you are really going out on a limb there by claiming that.
No, but I'd rather have people post their picks than to argue with mine.but.... If you'd like a more risky pick...

Michael Vick will not even match the weak numbers he put up last year.

He doesn't understand the system, he'll never understand the system and will be left to freelance. If he doesn't get hurt early, the coaches are gonna realize that it's his job or theirs and put Matt Schuab in. They had alot of trade offers for Schaub and chose to keep him for a reason.

 
Quan and Fitz will not get 100 receptions each this season.

Boy, that was out on a limb, wasn't it? I need to hit the hay.

 
Larry Fitzgerald

Shaun Alexander

Thomas Jones

Edgerrin James

Joey Galloway

 
Edge James

There is no way he puts up 1800 all purpose yards and 14 scores.
No kidding. There's a limit of one out of shape super fat guy you can have on your OL. They have five.How is this unit going to pass block?

 
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Edge James

There is no way he puts up 1800 all purpose yards and 14 scores.
No kidding. There's a limit of one out of shape super fat guy you can have on your OL. They have five.How is this unit going to pass block?
I think Edge owners are more worried about run blocking
 
I agree with all of the WRs mentioned: Smith, Moss, Galloway
Speaking of WR's who did well last year... I think it's quite possible, even probable, that there is a new Top 5 at season's end. Last year's Top 5 with 1pt/10 yards receiving and 6pt/TD were...

S.Smith

L.Fitzgerald

S.Moss

C.Johnson

J.Galloway

Johnson may be the only exception.

 
Since this is opinion and he came off of a monster year...

Tiki Barber, while still the man, is another year older. Jacobs and Ward are coming to the table with a bit more experience and will be getting more time in the system since Tiki is already "allegedly" contemplating retirement. I think the 300 carries and 50 reception bar that has become expected of him is more of a cap this year than a given. So is RB7 a dissapointment if you draft him at 4? My guess is no.

***Discliamer*** I'm just bitter I traded him away before the '04 season in a keeper league when I thought he was a "SELL HIGH" player with a rookie QB coming into the system. OOPS.

 
Whats the thinking behind LFitz not repeating his #s this year? Is it only because of Edge or is it something else?

 
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Whats the thinking behind LFitz not repeating his #s this year? Is it only because of Edge or is it something else?
Zona had a crazy number of passes thrown to the WRs because they had no run game, and no RBs or TEs catching a significant number of passes. Boldinn and Fitz were #1 and #3 in the league in targets last year.If they can balance things better, the thinking is there could be a lot fewer passes to the WRs (Boldin, Fitz, Johnson).

 
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Whats the thinking behind LFitz not repeating his #s this year?  Is it only because of Edge or is it something else?
Zona had a crazy number of passes thrown to the WRs because they had no run game, and no RBs or TEs catching a significant number of passes. Boldinn and Fitz were #1 and #3 in the league in targets last year.If they can balance things better, the thinking is there could be a lot fewer passes to the WRs (Boldin, Fitz, Johnson).
Arizona did have the fewest total team rushing yards since at least 2001 last year. So the expectation is that both Fitz and Boldin will have decreased yardage totals. However, it is also highly unlikely that Arizona will have a nearly 2:1 FG to TD ratio. Edge and a better run game could lead to more overall TDs, which in turn could allow Fitz (and Boldin) to have similar individual TD numbers to 2005.
 
Tom Brady.. i hate to say that since i had him last year but w/ a revamped

running game and an improved defense (over last year),i dont believe

his yardage or td's will be as high...

oh and Peyton,his #'s will be higher !!!

 
Tom Brady

Trent Green

Kerry Collins

Gus Frerotte

Edgerrin James

Mike Anderson

Domanick Davis

Ricky Williams

Steve Smith

Santana Moss

Joey Galloway

Jimmy Smith

 
I know Im going to get a lot of heat for this but LJ is not going to repeat what he did last year. Not only will he not average the same numbers he was last year, I dont even think he will beat his totals for last year. His O-line is old and some retiring. He lost his Off coordinator, and most important imo he list Richardson. Gonzolez is old and I think there pass game is going to struggle and I think he is going to have to go up against 8 in the box. This is this years Willis Mcgahee.

 
Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
Since SA had the 5th best fantasy season ever for a RB, I hardly think this is going out on a limb.
 
Put any player in this thread that you don't think will match his 2005 numbers.

I'll start it off...

Shaun Alexander.

At his age he's going to start to show wear and tear. The loss of Hutch, doesn't just hurt, it devestates. Everyone gets up for a game against a superbowl team and he's going to have to take alot of big hits. And the biggest reason... He's not in a contract year anymore.

just my humble opinion
Since SA had the 5th best fantasy season ever for a RB, I hardly think this is going out on a limb.
Well if I get 1st pick in my redraft league it will be S.Alexander.With the run schedule they have this year a safer pick could not be had.

edit for spelling

 
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Mine is Neil Rackers.

Yeah, laugh all you want. Got it out of your system?

Good.

Rackers changed some teams last year, putting some mid-range teams in the hunt, and a LOT of those teams won't forget that. He's an amazing kicker, hitting a ton of deep, deep kicks last year.

The problem is, fantasy kicking is all about opportunity, which Rackers had an EXTRAORDINARY amount of last year.

First of all, it's going to be hard to duplicate a season like last years...where seemingly EVERY drive ends up stalling at about the 30 yard line.

On top of that, the Edge signing gives a good option to prevent that from happening...Rackers' opportunities significantly decrease just because of Edge.

People will be drafting Rackers early (relatively...possibly 6th, 7th round, which is way too early for ANY kicker), and now, he's not even guaranteed to be a top 5 kicker.

I think he might be the WORST pick in every draft this year.

 
Tatum Bell, he got 8 Td's last year, maybe half that "4" this year. I think you'll just see less of him period.

TURF

 
Kellen Winslow , Jr is not suddenly going to morph into this mega-TE that everyone thinks he will, not this year, probably not ever.

he's essentially still a rookie..he looked slow and ordinary in the action he saw in preseason two years ago. He looked ordinary in the two nfl games he has to his credit. he caught 1 TD at U Miami his senior season..two season-ending injuries and 2 years of rehab work later, now he's suddenly considered a top TE?!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

he might catch 30-35 balls if he's lucky, that's about the avg for most first year TE's..

overhyped and overvalued, imo

 
People will be drafting Rackers early (relatively...possibly 6th, 7th round, which is way too early for ANY kicker), and now, he's not even guaranteed to be a top 5 kicker.
:lmao: I don't think I've ever seen a kicker go that high. That you have "people" instead of "person" obliges me to question the leagues you participate in?

:nerd:

Agreed though. However I do not see the drop-off as being so drastic. Edge was never very good on the goal-line, and Warner certainly isn't an all-pro there either.

While they shouldn't stall out every drive at the 30 again, they also won't be putting it in the endzone much more frequently.

 
Kellen Winslow , Jr is not suddenly going to morph into this mega-TE that everyone thinks he will, not this year, probably not ever.

he's essentially still a rookie..he looked slow and ordinary in the action he saw in preseason two years ago. He looked ordinary in the two nfl games he has to his credit. he caught 1 TD at U Miami his senior season..two season-ending injuries and 2 years of rehab work later, now he's suddenly considered a top TE?!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

he might catch 30-35 balls if he's lucky, that's about the avg for most first year TE's..

overhyped and overvalued, imo
Q: How'd Shockey do his first year with your Giants . . . seeing how both went to Miami?A: 74-894-2

 
My top (or bottom three)

Joe Jurevicius - 2005 he had 10 TDs. There is absolutely no way he does this again this year with the Browns. Matt Hasselbeck is much better than QB than any of the QB's the browns will field this year.

Thomas Jones - in 2005 he had 9 TDs. Benson will get his chance this year because of the money he is being paid and will at least take away the goal line opportunities.

Edge - The Cards Oline was horrible last year and they did nothing to improve it. Edge will be a huge disappointment to fantasy players who expect numbers of a first round draft choice.

 
People will be drafting Rackers early (relatively...possibly 6th, 7th round, which is way too early for ANY kicker), and now, he's not even guaranteed to be a top 5 kicker.
:lmao: I don't think I've ever seen a kicker go that high. That you have "people" instead of "person" obliges me to question the leagues you participate in?

:nerd:
:bag: Point still stands, though. He'll be the first kicker gone, way too early, in a lot of leagues.

 
People will be drafting Rackers early (relatively...possibly 6th, 7th round, which is way too early for ANY kicker), and now, he's not even guaranteed to be a top 5 kicker.
:lmao: I don't think I've ever seen a kicker go that high. That you have "people" instead of "person" obliges me to question the leagues you participate in?

:nerd:
:bag: Point still stands, though. He'll be the first kicker gone, way too early, in a lot of leagues.
I researched the high scoring kicker phenomenum and found that kickers that scored 130 of more points (NFL points) averaged a drop-off to 107 points the following year. The same number of FG opportunities rarely repeats itself in one season to the next.
 
People will be drafting Rackers early (relatively...possibly 6th, 7th round, which is way too early for ANY kicker), and now, he's not even guaranteed to be a top 5 kicker.
:lmao: I don't think I've ever seen a kicker go that high. That you have "people" instead of "person" obliges me to question the leagues you participate in?

:nerd:
:bag: Point still stands, though. He'll be the first kicker gone, way too early, in a lot of leagues.
I researched the high scoring kicker phenomenum and found that kickers that scored 130 of more points (NFL points) averaged a drop-off to 107 points the following year. The same number of FG opportunities rarely repeats itself in one season to the next.
:goodposting: Especially in this situation, IMO. The conditions that made his monster year last year just aren't in line to even come close to repeating.

 

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