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The same kind of world we have always lived in...I know it is hard to believe, but groups of early teenagers can make some pretty dumb decisions when confronted wiht idle time. And that was true when I was 14 and probably when you were 14 as well.
What if your kid didn't hurt himself while being a jackass, but got jumped by 2 or 3 other kids that were in the room at the time. Still no problem with the teacher being out of the room?
I have worked with 14-year-old kids for 18 years now. I taught over 120 8th graders per day for 11 of those and have spent the last 4 as an administrator in a middle school. I have loved nearly every minute of it and would not want to work with any different age group. I'm no Betsy DeVos or anything, but I do have some experience to base my estimation of 14-year-old behavior upon.ILUVBEER99 said:
Wow. We watched that at a teen lock in at my Catholic church in that same era - which, admittedly, surprised me...but no one got fired over it.
People just don't get itat people thinking we walk into class like some goob on open mic night.
I went to a Cath School and our Psych teacher showed it one day because he was also the hockey coach and the hockey team had a big game that day.
You obviously have way more experience in this area than me. I'll take your word for it. I remember being 13-14 (8th/9th grade) and teachers left the room all the time with nothing bad ever happening. I don't know anything about kids that age nowadays, just kinda sad if kids that age can't take care of themselves for a few minutes.
Why can't you be just like Mr.Kotter or Kemo Algebra or Michelle Pfiffer? JUST REACH THE KIDS, DAMMIT!
So you are fine with the possibility that the teacher gets his feelings hurt and drops a kid's grade a few levels? You consider that part of "owning it" for the student? Just checking to see if I am reading your comment correctly.
I just disagree with you. Honestly, at some point people need to grow up and act like an adult. Maybe 14 isn't the right age but this is a good example of a perfect opportunity to learn something. If you made a mistake, man up and own it. Pretty simple IMO.
I completely agree with you. The point i am trying to make is that at some age kids become adults. here is a good example of a opportunity to coach your kid up. We all make mistakes, it is how we deal with them and what we learn from them that make us better people.
Do you think that if those 2-3 other kids wanted to jump him they could not find an opportunity between classes, after school, etc? This is an absolutely terrible argument.
Honestly, i would imagine any teacher that did this is not the type of person that is going to get butt hurt by the results. No i don't think it is okay to drop the grade of a student because you don't like them. Completely separate argument IMO.
Unrelated, but it reminded of the time, in college, I paid a friend $25 to snort a line of crushed red pepper.
Sure they could have, but while those kids are in my classroom, they are my responsibility. I have the duty to make sure they are safe, and it's hard to do that from outside the classroom for a fifth of the class period. Research shows the #1 deterrent to student misbehavior is the mere presence of an adult. Between classes, the school should have a supervision plan as well. After school may or may not be the school's responsibility.
I wouldn't think teachers would be so sensitive about the implication that lessons don't always go exactly as planned and they sometimes have to make adjustments on the fly. Seems to me that would be an important and admirable skill.
The way the backs of the chairs where slightly curved, I could put my shirt over the chairback so that my skin was straight on the plastic, then I could trap air back there and make really loud, authentic sounding fart sounds with very little, almost indiscernible movement.
I could do the same thing with the palms of my hands. Teachers would whip around to see who was pulling their hands out of their shirts because they assumed it was someone doing that with their arm pit. Drove the teachers nuts and thoroughly elated my fellow classmates. I'm teaching my kids how to do that now!
I several times snorted black pepper for money. I'm not sure I would have been stupid enough to do red pepper, but if I needed beer money badly enough I can't rule it out.Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Jesus I forgot about that kind of stuff.
I totally forgot about that too! How the hell I didn't burn a major structure down is beyond me!Jesus I forgot about that kind of stuff.
We put our hand in a fist with a cavity in the middle. Fill it up with gas and ignite. It would burn inside your fist for a while and if you opened it up you'd get the same whoosh as it all burned off.
I was in the second to last class at our high school that was still allowed to smoke in the courtyard. Lunch period was like an episode of Mad Men out there.
I read that quickly and my immediate thought was "I'm pretty sure I don't remember that in our school"Jesus I forgot about that kind of stuff.
We put our hand in a fist with a cavity in the middle. Fill it up with gas and ignite. It would burn inside your fist for a while and if you opened it up you'd get the same whoosh as it all burned off.
Dammit, now you've got me remembering girls with hairspray, lip gloss, bubble yum and lightly trimmed beavers. brb
At my high school kids would smoke in the bathrooms between classes. You would open the door and it would be this dense thick cloud in there billowing out.
My gut reaction to seeing these words is that whatever follows is total bull and more likely just made up. What you said about adult supervision may be true, but its my default position now whenever I see "Studies show..." or "Research shows...".
Ok Sheldon, I get it...if it's not theoretical physics, it's not real research, right???
At my high school, it was in the shop class storage room where everyone sparked up. That and across the street from the school until the bell rang.
Apologies. I wasn't looking to pick an i-Fight. Just pointing out my default notion when seeing those specific words (studies show...). That's my problem, not yours. What counts for scientific research within our pop culture bothers me. Again, perhaps just my problem.
So what you're saying is none of that bad stuff happened when you were out of the room for 10 minutes.
