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Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Personally I think Hathaway was too subdued.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Hathaway's take on Carrie was great. Pretty much nailed the biggest flaw in the show.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
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sporthenry
Footballguy
sporthenry
Footballguy
Well that was even more of a setup than last week. The kid story can just be cut off, I don't think anybody cares. As far as Carrie, the whole trying to go after Brody was a bit over the top. Really going to risk it all and get fired again b/c you love a terrorist?
The previews look nice though. Abu Nazir going to try to turn him back using threat of violence against his family. Mentally, he must be really f***ed up so I'm sure the relations with Carrie actually does give him something he is in control of.
Overall, was waiting for the show to slow down a bit but I'm sure it'll pick up quickly. Wonder how they'll try for a 3rd season. And still perplexed this is all about some C4. I know its bad but it isn't like it can take out the same amount as a nuclear weapon.
The previews look nice though. Abu Nazir going to try to turn him back using threat of violence against his family. Mentally, he must be really f***ed up so I'm sure the relations with Carrie actually does give him something he is in control of.
Overall, was waiting for the show to slow down a bit but I'm sure it'll pick up quickly. Wonder how they'll try for a 3rd season. And still perplexed this is all about some C4. I know its bad but it isn't like it can take out the same amount as a nuclear weapon.
5 digit know nothing
Footballguy
triple agent? Didn't see that coming.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I thought it was a pretty great episode.
I like how they handled the hit-and-run, using it as the vehicle to send Brody over the edge. It seemed like a bad idea at first, but, as a always with this show, they pulled it off just fine. It moved Brody along, showcased Dana a bit, and they appear to have given it a clean (believable) break. Fine with me.
The scene with Saul and Quinn arguing about whether to move in or not to the sound of Carrie getting nailed was one of my favorite in the series. Those two were great in that scene.
I like how they handled the hit-and-run, using it as the vehicle to send Brody over the edge. It seemed like a bad idea at first, but, as a always with this show, they pulled it off just fine. It moved Brody along, showcased Dana a bit, and they appear to have given it a clean (believable) break. Fine with me.
The scene with Saul and Quinn arguing about whether to move in or not to the sound of Carrie getting nailed was one of my favorite in the series. Those two were great in that scene.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Sure, she doesn't hate nailing Brody, but this was about handling her asset. She took him to a place the CIA would know to look immediately and turned Brody around as much as possible. Of all the "Carrie, get back here!" moments of the series, this was the least likely to get her fired, I think.
Now, a minor complaint would be that turning Brody's tracker off and not responding to the CIA was a somewhat cheap, unnecessary way to build suspense. Not that I really mind though.
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Apple Jack
Footballguy
She had to bide time. Handstabber would have rounded them up otherwise.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Maybe. Not that I mind. It's a suspense driven show, so they'll have to do things, from time to time, that might seem unnecessary to drive suspense.I'm not sure she really had to buy time though. Brody tried to (and probably still did) destroy himself as an asset. They were desperate. It's become quite clear that Carrie's always the best chance of getting through to Brody.
The conversation between Saul and Quinn could've just as easily happened immediately, as opposed to while listening to Carrie enthusiastically "handle" Brody in the motel room. It was a pretty dumb conversation to begin with, really. Try to get Brody back in with Roya or arrest him? That's not really a question and the conversation should've never had to take place.
Because Quinn needed to be convinced to do the only thing that makes sense, it doesn't seem like there was time for Carrie to get him before Brody was arrested. But that shouldn't have been the choice.
Immediately following Brody saying "I'm out", it should've been a simple (from Carrie) "Hey guys, this is pretty much over, but I'm going to go see if I can fix this. Track us if you like. I'm taking him to a CIA motel anyway. Warning though, there might be sex involved. If anyone has a better idea, hit me up on my cell."
Again, I don't mind, but I think it was clearly just to create suspense.
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sporthenry
Footballguy
I was more talking about when he was in Roya's company and Carrie almost blew the whole thing up. That could have easily blew the whole thing and reeked of her trying to protect Brody which isn't her number 1 goal. I know they are supposed to be in love but it just seems shallow for Carrie to go down the same path. Of course now we don't know where Brody is even though I feel like tracking a helicopter would be much easier than a car.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I chubbed up.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
I think Anne Hathaway might have gotten access to this episode to research the SNL skit, because she was right on the money with Danes's acting in this one.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He's a mastermind, bro.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It's like the starship Enterprise in here.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Plus he shaved his beard, going incognito.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
identikit
Footballguy
Love Virgil.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I get distracted when he's on screen. So handsome.
identikit
Footballguy
Everyone has their type.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I think it's the sideburns.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I've tried to watch the last episode about 4 times since Sunday but just lost interest. The pacing of this show is getting worse.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Couldn't even enjoy it from a comedy perspective?
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Marking my spot. i am watching this series on DVD and this is where I am at. So far I feel the first two episodes were the best and I am not sure it will ever return to that. I am liking it though. Big decline in boob showings last few episodes 
Apple Jack
Footballguy
The Walking Dead is the only show I can think of that went from strong to comically bad faster.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Boobs disappear as the show gets better unless it is like a Strike Back whose total audience is male and it has no chance of winning an Emmy. If a show wins an Emmy and wants to stay up there, it has to appeal to a mass audience and boobs everywhere defeats that. Heck, I was surprised we got to hear Carrie "help" Brody last episode. Such is the life of a good TV show as Entourage has went through it and True Blood has cut back a lot.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I wish I could. This show had a ton of promise. Starting with last season's finale it's been on a big decline.'Apple Jack said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Carrie makes a weird face tonight.
5 digit know nothing
Footballguy
I enjoyed this week's episode
glad we got to see the wife's fun bags again
glad we got to see the wife's fun bags again
sporthenry
Footballguy
Yeah, good episode. No love story with the kids is always a win. These writers really have been pretty good b/c they keep throwing in a few twists when you think everything is figured out. Overall it was a setup episode but a good one. I figured there would be a bit more action when taking down a cell.I enjoyed this week's episode
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I was waiting for a big van explosion.
Nice boobs.
Nice boobs.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The son has to be the biggest dope on television, right? "Hey everybody! BIG SCREEN IN EVERY ROOM!"
I worry that this show has already gone on too long. Maybe it was meant to go 1-1.5 seasons. I don't think it can sustain for 4-5.
I worry that this show has already gone on too long. Maybe it was meant to go 1-1.5 seasons. I don't think it can sustain for 4-5.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Was I the only one who didnt know who's apartment Virgil was checking out? If so what did I miss?
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
It was Quinn's apartment. He's apparently not just a regular analyst like the rest of the crew was led to believe. We also saw it when he was about to kill Brodie.I need to stop watching this show.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I didn't realize it until Saul called Virgil after he talked to Quinn's baby momma. I had no clue what the hell was happening until Saul gave Virgil the heads up and just thought I missed something to determine it was Quinn's apartment before that call.So Quinn is only around to take out Brody when he's no longer needed. I assume when Saul tells Carrie this info that she will tell Brody immediately which will screw up more stuff with the operation.Is Brody's account of his meeting with Nazir to be believed, was there other stuff he left out besides praying together or just assume that was the only thing he left out?
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
The writers will let you know after they decide.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I thought it was a really good episode.
I like the Quinn thing and it makes sense. The VP and Estes need Brody gone without a trial as soon as he's no longer useful. Adds a nice wrinkle going down the stretch.
Of course, we don't know if Brody's telling the truth. That's when the show is at it's best.
I like the Quinn thing and it makes sense. The VP and Estes need Brody gone without a trial as soon as he's no longer useful. Adds a nice wrinkle going down the stretch.
Of course, we don't know if Brody's telling the truth. That's when the show is at it's best.
In the scene immediately after the apartment scene, Saul told the guys who'd checked it out: "When I told you to check out Quinn, I didn't mean to break into his apartment." (Or something like that.) Then they showed him the pics of what they'd found.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
DON'T READ IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE TO PEOPLE HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU
A heavyweight CIA operative in the middle of trying to stop a terror plot on US soil getting schoolgirl giddy at being left "in charge" for a few minutes.
I'll finish the season, but that'll be it for me. Anybody who gets annoyed by writing that is dumbed down for fear of losing audience is going to find this show maddening. The over-explaining things was funny at first, but now it's just distracting. Whoops, except for that bit about Virgil/handstabber's place, which was uselessly confusing. That's just clumsy and distracting. I hope they had a scene setting that up and it just had to be cut because they didn't have time. I'm to the point where I think the show has to have been sabotaged by Showtime execs seeing it as their big shot at getting and maintaining subscribers and they're worried they'll lose people who can't follow the show so they've mandated that it be written to a fifth grade level now.And somebody should teach these CIA people how to do surveillance. The black van across the street from the terror cell meeting is usually going to get spotted. Or down the street from the double-agent's house when he knows he's being watched. And the meeting on the empty bus where handstabber and his buddy make sure to get window seats. These are the worst sneaky people ever.The Mrs. passing out in Mike's bed?
A heavyweight CIA operative in the middle of trying to stop a terror plot on US soil getting schoolgirl giddy at being left "in charge" for a few minutes.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
The daughter crosses her arms (which are encased in overlong sweatshirt sleeves) and looks like she's trying to poop while doing algebra in her head.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
I will say this. F. Murray Abraham is the teats. I'd watch him do the Broadway version of "According to Jim".
Apple Jack
Footballguy
I love how he and the daughter seem to have no relationship whatsoever and that he's wholly uninterested in her demonstratively crumbling mental state. Nevermind the fact that the CIA has moved us to a safe house because very dangerous people might want us dead OMG DID YOU SEE THESE TVs DUDE??? You can show them trying to shelter him from the full weight of what's going on without making him look like a character from some altogether different show.And this show will go on for years past its shelf-life. See: Weeds, Californication, and Dexter. Showtime is the anti-HBO.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Pretty sure we'll find out next season that the kid is an undercover quadruple agent with amnesia.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
You are right, though I'm glad Dexter hung around this long. This season's worth it. Weeds actually finished strong too, I thought. Don't know if anybody watched it by then though.Californication can stay as long as they like, if Charlie Runkle is still around.
Don't know a ton about most HBO shows (other than Wire, Deadwood, 6FU), but didn't Entourage stick around way too long?
I also suspect The Wire and Deadwood might've ended up hanging around too long if people had actually watched them.