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Homeland (3 Viewers)

Dammit, is it me and Mario Kart one one side of this, and everybody else on the other? :oldunsure:
The stuff with the daughter is insufferable. But everything with the agency and Danes still intrigues me.
I agree with this. I'm into season 3, they just need to cut out the whole Dana thing. The demographic that is watching this show does not car about a puppy love with a suicidal girl. Time to close this up and move onto something else.

I hate to say it, but they need to bring in Brody for another story line. Caught flash of it at the end of last nights episode, i think that might help out. Right now the two story lines are just ok and horrible.

 
I did like Dana's speech to her mom in the bathroom but her storyline has become a worse strain of AIDS than the daughter in 24. I can't even stand looking at her face anymore. It's getting old watching Carrie act crazy.

 
Dammit, is it me and Mario Kart one one side of this, and everybody else on the other? :oldunsure:
The stuff with the daughter is insufferable. But everything with the agency and Danes still intrigues me.
I agree with this. I'm into season 3, they just need to cut out the whole Dana thing. The demographic that is watching this show does not car about a puppy love with a suicidal girl. Time to close this up and move onto something else.

I hate to say it, but they need to bring in Brody for another story line. Caught flash of it at the end of last nights episode, i think that might help out. Right now the two story lines are just ok and horrible.
To be fair, with so much erased at the end of S2, there isn't a whole lot of plot to go with right now. If you want a ramp-up in an organic, plausible manner, there just isn't enough meat to do 100% CIA stuff right now.

Or, if this show is about Nicholas Brody, then the story of the family is part of his story.

And so a girl wants to learn yoga. Nothing wrong with that. :shrug:

 
Dana's storyline does feel pointless, but I think she's a pretty good actress and does well with the pointless garbage they give her.

I'm not in love with the season, but I think there's still potential here. The excessive use of the Brody family doesn't inspire confidence that they have some big plans for this season. I hope I'm wrong.

Carrie's faces are starting to get old, but it's not like her illness is just going to magically go away. That's the character, and she plays it well.

 
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Recap, for those who missed it:

- Annoying daughter did whatever she does for half the show.

- Carrie made some weird faces.

- Mario Kart loved every minute of it.
You forgot Patinkin and Abraham acting all 'jewishy'.
LOL.

They should find a way to manipulate the plot so that Mrs. Brody is naked for 40 minutes, for one reason or another. Highest ratings ever.

 
Can we just get an episode of Mrs Brody scissoring the new head scarf girl.(Nazanin Bonadai, she was on How I met your mother, she's underrated).

The Dana storyline this season is almost unwatchable. Are they gonna make her into a heartbroken terrorist? Her storyline will eventually wrap up and it'll prove to be a waste of time.

 
The daughter turned 18 after they finished filming last season, so they've made every effort to get her topless in the first two episodes this season in a totally pointless storyline because her mom's got a nice body but her rack was already starting to fade in season one and it's only gotten worse since then.

 
Wow, Season 3 has gone to ####.
What are they thinking?

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The daughter turned 18 after they finished filming last season, so they've made every effort to get her topless in the first two episodes this season in a totally pointless storyline because her mom's got a nice body but her rack was already starting to fade in season one and it's only gotten worse since then.
I don't think I agree with the former, but I don't really remember very well. I wish they were giving us more chances to verify your accusations.

 
Wow, Season 3 has gone to ####.
What are they thinking?
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They dug themselves into quite a hole. They stretched the plot as far as it could go to keep their emmy winner in the show, and even though they refused to kill him off, they had to send him off somewhere. They built up the mother and daughter as characters, but they have virtually nothing to offer anymore because their whole purpose in the show was context for Brody. They killed off their entire cast except for Saul, Carrie, Quinn and what's his nuts, and there's no possible way to imagine that the entire CIA brass could get wiped out and there would be no fallout. So they're stuck writing pages of fallout, and imagining a world where Carrie somehow doesn't get tried for treason. But they have also killed off their only recognizable villain (abu nazir) and their only pseudo villain (brody) leaving that one woman as the big bad, and she's not really that interesting. So they've spent the first couple episodes trying to come up with a new big bad, finding a way to keep Brody's family in the plot, and trying to keep people's interest while they lay the groundwork for the plot they'd like to have instead. They painted themselves into a corner, but give them some credit because at least they're trying.
 
The daughter turned 18 after they finished filming last season, so they've made every effort to get her topless in the first two episodes this season in a totally pointless storyline because her mom's got a nice body but her rack was already starting to fade in season one and it's only gotten worse since then.
I don't think I agree with the former, but I don't really remember very well. I wish they were giving us more chances to verify your accusations.
She's friggin gorgeous. I'd wager that she's an animal in the sack, too.

 
Btw the writers keep saying how infatuated they are with the daughters acting chops and thus will be force feeding her down our throats forever. I find her annoying and cant even look at the little ####

 
I'm enjoying it. Not much else on Sunday nights now and this has been entertaining.

I agree they are focusing too much on the Dana storyline, but this is the focal family of the show and their father just got outed as the biggest terrorist in the history of the country. They have to cover this side of it.

 
I'm enjoying it. Not much else on Sunday nights now and this has been entertaining.

I agree they are focusing too much on the Dana storyline, but this is the focal family of the show and their father just got outed as the biggest terrorist in the history of the country. They have to cover this side of it.
not saying they should ignore them but half of an entire episode is a bit much
 
The daughter turned 18 after they finished filming last season, so they've made every effort to get her topless in the first two episodes this season in a totally pointless storyline because her mom's got a nice body but her rack was already starting to fade in season one and it's only gotten worse since then.
I don't think I agree with the former, but I don't really remember very well. I wish they were giving us more chances to verify your accusations.
She's friggin gorgeous. I'd wager that she's an animal in the sack, too.
Lizard Queen imo
 
Wow, Season 3 has gone to ####.
What are they thinking?
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They dug themselves into quite a hole. They stretched the plot as far as it could go to keep their emmy winner in the show, and even though they refused to kill him off, they had to send him off somewhere. They built up the mother and daughter as characters, but they have virtually nothing to offer anymore because their whole purpose in the show was context for Brody. They killed off their entire cast except for Saul, Carrie, Quinn and what's his nuts, and there's no possible way to imagine that the entire CIA brass could get wiped out and there would be no fallout. So they're stuck writing pages of fallout, and imagining a world where Carrie somehow doesn't get tried for treason. But they have also killed off their only recognizable villain (abu nazir) and their only pseudo villain (brody) leaving that one woman as the big bad, and she's not really that interesting. So they've spent the first couple episodes trying to come up with a new big bad, finding a way to keep Brody's family in the plot, and trying to keep people's interest while they lay the groundwork for the plot they'd like to have instead. They painted themselves into a corner, but give them some credit because at least they're trying.
They should have let some time elapsed, a year or more, and thrown us headfirst into the middle of a new threat. Perhaps in the Middle-East.

Brody should not still be on the show. Writers don't even know what to do with him. Yet we are following his family? Doesn't instill much confidence.

 
Brody should not still be on the show. Writers don't even know what to do with him. Yet we are following his family?
Amazing, isn't it? Half of this episode dealt with the daughter - who nobody gives two chits about - of a former main character who is not even on the show anymore!!!! Embarrassing.

 
I get the feeling Dana's going to come across some sort of evidence that proves her father's innocence. Probably puts the whole Brody family at risk.

I wouldn't completely hate it. I actually do like the Brody family, but if they are going to be in this, they need something to do.

Carrie and Dana would be pretty good getting a lot of scenes together (I know that thought makes most of you want to vomit).

 
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Glad to see this show went down in the ratings this week from week one, while masters of sex increased almost ten percent from week one.

 
I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.

 
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I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
I literally laughed out loud when I read this because I know you serious.

 
I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
I literally laughed out loud when I read this because I know you serious.
:goodposting:

 
I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
That is probably why "Homeland" has gone way downhill. "24" was a poorly written show. It doesn't matter if there are others that think like you. It was a crappy show.

 
There is no way others do not see it that much different than I do.
Sorry man, but this sentence is as convoluted as the show. Took me a couple tries :)

Also, it was actually distracting how carefully they avoided showing Dana's boob. The chick playing her is 18, so that was weak

 
Just finished the first two episodes.

I'm struggling to think of a drama in the past 10-15 years that has rambled downhill at warp eight faster than this one. These two eps were a complete disaster with one exception.* Dana: already covered. The gal plying her, Morgan Saylor, is a very good actress, but her character's plots are pure garbage. I cannot believe we are watching her have sex in some asylum laundry room (romance: off the charts!!) with a random dude from Dexter. Then there's the absolutely ridiculous CIA plot, and Carrie being institutionalized - - AGAIN. It's been two seasons and two episodes, and they're already recycling plot elements from the first season? Awesome. BTW, it was incredible enough that she was back working for the CIA after one stint in a mental hospital, but after two? How are they going to pull that off? (And you know they will.) The lack of Brody is great, but they forgot to lose his loathsome family too. Oh, and Mike is, interestingly enough, a huge loss. The Senator is so OOT despicable that he should be twirling a stache or at least firing force lightning from his fingertips.

I'm going to give this one more episode and then drop it if there isn't massive improvement. It's not even fun to semi-hate-watch like Under the Dumb or Revolution.

*I'm ready for the Quinn Spinoff anytime. Or just make this whole show about him already.

 
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Hey look... this is the same as that. We're being clever here as "writers"... get it... this IS that. I'm in prison, you're in prison, we're all in prison. :wall:

 
I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
I literally laughed out loud when I read this because I know you serious.
:goodposting:
mountain lion. :goodposting:

 
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I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
I literally laughed out loud when I read this because I know you serious.
:goodposting:
It was one of the most original premises but no way it deserved the 7 or 8 seasons they gave it. There was really nowhere for it to go after season one so they just kept upping the ante making each season more ridiculous than the last. Still, the first season was excellent and the character Jack Bauer proved so popular that it became a sustainable money printing franchise and it deserves some credit for being able to accomplish that.

 
I must be the only one that hears the phrase "24-esque" and thinks that's a good thing.
You probably are.
:shrug: I still think 24 was one of the best shows in the past 10-15 years. I know I'm not alone in that. Plus, you have writers from the show on this one. Of course, some parts are going to feel like 24. Also, it seems that every TV show thread in the FFA is critical of the show. If you go by the threads, no show is a good one.
That is probably why "Homeland" has gone way downhill. "24" was a poorly written show. It doesn't matter if there are others that think like you. It was a crappy show.
There's the self-superior, shiny, happy OPM we all know and love.

 
Leaving the criticism aside and just discussing the story, can someone explain to me why a ruthless terrorist like that dude holding Brody would want to save him and have this close a relationship with Carrie?

 
Leaving the criticism aside and just discussing the story, can someone explain to me why a ruthless terrorist like that dude holding Brody would want to save him and have this close a relationship with Carrie?
"Maybe someone do you a favor once."

 

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