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Chaka said:
It's not season 1 but season 3 is far better than season 2 and the past few episodes, since they got rid of Brody's family, have been very entertaining. It will never recapture what it was during the first half of season 1 but it is much better lately than most of you are trying to paint it.
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"So we need an operative in Iran to facilitate easily the most important, intricate assassination attempt of all time, whose execution greatly impacts national security and the future of possible terrorist threats. How about Carrie? Let's see if she's qualified:

1. Does the operative suffer from any medical illness? Yes, she's bipolar.

2. Have the ever been committed to a mental hospital? Yes, twice in fact. Although the second was a clever ruse with gaping plot holes.

3. Have they been prescribed medication for said illness? Yes

4. Do they take it? No, of course not.

5. Does the operative have any prior acts of insubordination? Oh, too many to count.

6. Have you ever had to shoot said operative in order to keep them from #$%&ing up an operation? Yes buts its been a couple of weeks. Pretty sure we won't have to do that again.

7. Will the operative be able to subtly integrate into the environment to reduce suspicions? No, she is white as a ghost and makes crazy faces. But she will wear a head scarf, so we're good.

8. How many other agents will be deployed to assist the operative? None, we think it makes sense to send her in alone. We needed a team of highly trained military personnel to get her boyfriend to walk across a field, but this has solo mission written all over it.

9. Does the operative have any personal ties to this mission that could cloud her judgement and jeopardize everything? Yes, her boyfriend is the key piece and has caused her to act irrationally in the past. Oh, he is also the world's most infamous terrorist.

Saul: Looks good to me! Let's go for it!"

 
Chaka said:
It's not season 1 but season 3 is far better than season 2 and the past few episodes, since they got rid of Brody's family, have been very entertaining. It will never recapture what it was during the first half of season 1 but it is much better lately than most of you are trying to paint it.
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I feel like season 3 should have started around episode 9. The rest just seemed like filler.

 
Opposite of season 2, which started solid and got real bad. When Nazir showed up on American soil and basically went from Bin Laden to a generic "Die Hard bad guy" I almost abandoned ship. To go from that right to freakin Dana being featured was just bad, so I can see where the negativity comes from. Not to mention the dopey love story mixed in.

But if you've stuck around I'm not sure how the last few haven't rejuvenated.

 
RBM said:
Opposite of season 2, which started solid and got real bad. When Nazir showed up on American soil and basically went from Bin Laden to a generic "Die Hard bad guy" I almost abandoned ship. To go from that right to freakin Dana being featured was just bad, so I can see where the negativity comes from. Not to mention the dopey love story mixed in.

But if you've stuck around I'm not sure how the last few haven't rejuvenated.
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Yeah, I'm enjoying it. There are holes and it won't reach the heights that S1 showed potential for (which makes sense as it maybe should've only lasted one season), but it's settled in to a pretty entertaining show with good performances.

 
TheIronSheik said:
I feel like season 3 should have started around episode 9. The rest just seemed like filler.
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The start of season three was the only way that they could justify getting Carrie and Brody back onto the show together. Which was obviously their goal from day one.Nobody on the show has done anything remotely realistic since midway in season two, but having Saul trust Carrie after she and Brody were the only two survivors of the CIA bombing required a bit of self sacrifice on Carrie's part. So they had to disgrace her, before putting her in charge of a cockamamie mission that would risk an international incident of the highest order, while trusting the most wanted man in the world to assassinate a top official in a country with whom we have poor relations.

Oh, and the guy they trusted had conspired to kill half of the US government with a suicide vest that he was actually wearing in a room with them, made a video of himself planning to kill them that was shown to the world, actually killed the vice president, and was accused of the CIA bombing, something which nobody really knows for sure.

But it's OK, because Carrie is carrying his unborn child, and she trusts him. Which is why she's the perfect person to run the mission. Because she'd be willing to disobey a direct order from the president to warn the father of her unborn child. And then he'd go off mission and perform the assassination when everyone in the building knew that he was the only guy who was in the room with the head of the republican guard. And then he'd call her on her cell phone from the dead guy's phone.

But wait, you say, how is that possible? Well, see, Brody asked to meet with the head of the republican guard, and he said yes, then sent his bodyguards out of the room so they could talk alone. Did Brody ask him to speak privately? No, no. It wasn't that difficult. All he had to do was show up and the guy says, guards, please leave. I'd like to be alone and unarmed while I speak to the American.

But yes, at least this is better than everything since the middle of season two. It's become the story of secret agent super spies instead of a realistic story about a plot to hurt the united states and the people who were tasked to protect us, but at least this was more entertaining.

 
bostonfred said:
TheIronSheik said:
I feel like season 3 should have started around episode 9. The rest just seemed like filler.
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The start of season three was the only way that they could justify getting Carrie and Brody back onto the show together. Which was obviously their goal from day one.Nobody on the show has done anything remotely realistic since midway in season two, but having Saul trust Carrie after she and Brody were the only two survivors of the CIA bombing required a bit of self sacrifice on Carrie's part. So they had to disgrace her, before putting her in charge of a cockamamie mission that would risk an international incident of the highest order, while trusting the most wanted man in the world to assassinate a top official in a country with whom we have poor relations.

Oh, and the guy they trusted had conspired to kill half of the US government with a suicide vest that he was actually wearing in a room with them, made a video of himself planning to kill them that was shown to the world, actually killed the vice president, and was accused of the CIA bombing, something which nobody really knows for sure.

But it's OK, because Carrie is carrying his unborn child, and she trusts him. Which is why she's the perfect person to run the mission. Because she'd be willing to disobey a direct order from the president to warn the father of her unborn child. And then he'd go off mission and perform the assassination when everyone in the building knew that he was the only guy who was in the room with the head of the republican guard. And then he'd call her on her cell phone from the dead guy's phone.

But wait, you say, how is that possible? Well, see, Brody asked to meet with the head of the republican guard, and he said yes, then sent his bodyguards out of the room so they could talk alone. Did Brody ask him to speak privately? No, no. It wasn't that difficult. All he had to do was show up and the guy says, guards, please leave. I'd like to be alone and unarmed while I speak to the American.

But yes, at least this is better than everything since the middle of season two. It's become the story of secret agent super spies instead of a realistic story about a plot to hurt the united states and the people who were tasked to protect us, but at least this was more entertaining.
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Wait. Are you making fun of me? :confused:

To be fair, I've always said once season 2 started, Homeland went from Homeland to 24. Add a ticking clock and Jack Bauer whisper yelling and it's the same show, pretty much.

 
kneeshooter said:
"So we need an operative in Iran to facilitate easily the most important, intricate assassination attempt of all time, whose execution greatly impacts national security and the future of possible terrorist threats. How about Carrie? Let's see if she's qualified:

1. Does the operative suffer from any medical illness? Yes, she's bipolar.

2. Have the ever been committed to a mental hospital? Yes, twice in fact. Although the second was a clever ruse with gaping plot holes.

3. Have they been prescribed medication for said illness? Yes

4. Do they take it? No, of course not.

5. Does the operative have any prior acts of insubordination? Oh, too many to count.

6. Have you ever had to shoot said operative in order to keep them from #$%&ing up an operation? Yes buts its been a couple of weeks. Pretty sure we won't have to do that again.

7. Will the operative be able to subtly integrate into the environment to reduce suspicions? No, she is white as a ghost and makes crazy faces. But she will wear a head scarf, so we're good.

8. How many other agents will be deployed to assist the operative? None, we think it makes sense to send her in alone. We needed a team of highly trained military personnel to get her boyfriend to walk across a field, but this has solo mission written all over it.

9. Does the operative have any personal ties to this mission that could cloud her judgement and jeopardize everything? Yes, her boyfriend is the key piece and has caused her to act irrationally in the past. Oh, he is also the world's most infamous terrorist.

Saul: Looks good to me! Let's go for it!"
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Well...yeah.

 
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Rejoice:

Two of the main female characters on "Homeland" will not return to Season 4 as series regulars, TVLine learned exclusively.

According to reports, Morena Baccarin, who plays Jessica Brody, and Morgan Saylor, a.k.a. Dana Brody a.k.a. the most hated teenager on cable TV, will only be in Season 4 sparingly.

As TVLine's Michael Ausiello points out, the news isn't that surprising given the arc of Season 3. Both characters were dealing with the aftermath of the Langley bombing in the first half of the season, but by the second half, neither had a major role in the undercover operation to place Brody inside Iran.

Saylor's character attempted suicide before the season started. When we found her in the beginning of Season 3, she was in a rehab facility, falling in love, having sex in a laundry room and learning that her boyfriend may or may not be a murderer.

As Saylor's TV mom, Baccarin spent most of Season 3 fretting over her children. Due to her real-life pregnancy, she was absent near the end of the season.

 
Seems about right. Take a good, strong family unit out of the show and the show goes down. Shame because the family dynamic was top notch compared to the other parts of the show.

 
That finale was worse then Lost. I am so done with this show. I am in total shock at how bad that was. Wow.

 
"The Star" begins with another of those "Homeland" sequences where you have to nod and smile and mutter, "Just go with it" for it to make any damn sense at all, as Brody somehow walks out of Akbari's office while his secretary and bodyguards are all on a simultaneous coffee break and makes it practically to the outer gate of the most secure complex in all of Iran before somebody notices that he murdered the head honcho. Previously, "Homeland" has presented a version of Iran so dangerous, intractable and impenetrable that Saul would have to resort to this crazy plan to make any headway. In these last two episodes, they've presented a version of Iran where Lt. Dangle and company from "Reno 911" apparently designed all the security measures.In addition, it's the second episode in a row that skips over some of the most potentially meaty material: in this case, how the people of Iran, America, and the world react to the latest abrupt, insane turn in the story of Nicholas Brody, who has gone (in the public eye) from presumed killed in action, to rescued war hero, to rookie congressman with an inside track at the vice-presidency, to the heinous terrorist who bombed the CIA, to an international fugitive, to a revered hero in Iran for the aforementioned bombing, to a despised, swiftly-executed assassin whom all Iranians despise. I suppose this is one of many "Homeland" threads it's best not to pull on too much, but it was only last week that he was being cheered in the streets of Tehran while Americans were appalled. Javadi(*) tells Carrie that now everyone sees Brody through her eyes, but I imagine it's more that most people are confused as all get out by this guy. Was there any public statement as to why he killed Akbari? Has he just been written off as a mercurial, equal-opportunity murderer?

(*) During the stretch of the episode where Brody and Carrie are trying to get out of the country together, why does no one mention the very real and very dangerous possibility that Brody would be tortured while in custody, and reveal who it was who assigned him to commit this crime, and what role Javadi has in all of this? For that matter, what on earth is Carrie doing telling the soldiers to call her pal Javadi to fix things?

But as Javadi says to Carrie in that same scene, "It was always about him." Carrie long ago went all-in on her love for Brody, and "Homeland" has done the same with that relationship. Everything, especially in this season's second half, has been secondary to Carrie's feelings for Brody, and her desire to clear his name (give or take the pesky issue of VP Walden's murder) and live happily ever after with him and their unexpectedly healthy baby. Nothing else — not Carrie spending several episodes in a mental hospital, not Saul's Rube Goldberg plan to establish peace in the Middle East, not Quinn's feelings of burn-out (which were gone and forgotten long ago), not anything involving Dana, Jessica and Chris Brody — ultimately matters. All of it was building to the moment in the safe house where Carrie suggests that "one of the reasons I was put on this Earth was for our paths to cross," and Brody agrees with her.

Now, I believe Carrie Mathison would think this. And I believe Nicholas Brody, after all the horrible things that have been done to him, and that he in turn has done, might actually agree with her — or, at least, that he would want to, because it could be one happy thing to hang onto in a life that's otherwise been a nightmare since he and Tom Walker were captured. And there has always been an undeniable chemistry between Claire Danes and Damian Lewis, and an added charge to the show whenever these two hopelessly damaged individuals have been put together. So considering all of that, I can understand why the season — and why this finale, scripted by Alex Gansa and the returning Meredith Stiehm — would build to that scene, and then to Carrie disobeying Brody's last request(**) and coming to watch him be hung from a crane in a public square.

(**) Carrie declining his request during their final phone call was done no favors by the many times this season where she was grossly insubordinate (and at times treasonous) with Saul, Lockhart and others. Under normal circumstances, one lover ignoring another's dying wish because they have to be with them in their final moments might seem noble, or at least understandable. When it's Carrie Mathison, congenital order-ignorer, it's just one more reason to get annoyed with her.

But if you don't believe that the thing between Carrie and Brody is True Love, then it's an exchange to generate the eye-roll to end all eye-rolls. And even if you have bought into their soulmate-ness, the question is whether those moments between Carrie and Brody, and the power of Brody's unglamorous death (whether or not he was ready to die, nobody wants to go that way, as you could see in Lewis' eyes), were worth all the contortions required to get there. And while I liked a number of moments in "The Star" — during both the scenes in Tehran and the extended Four Months Later epilogue — they weren't enough to redeem all the goofiness elsewhere.

Even in the epilogue, there were strange choices, like Lockhart — who, remember, hated and mistrusted Carrie even more than he felt that way about Saul, and who was witness to so many of her refusals to follow orders — not only keeping her on, but promoting her to one of the choicest positions in the Agency. You can't hand wave it away by saying, "Well, Carrie was right, so he let the other stuff go," because Saul was even more right, and he was less insubordinate than Carrie (when the initial border crossing went awry, for instance, Saul knew when it was time to admit defeat and put the military in charge), and he's out. Season 3 of "Homeland" did such an impressive, if unintentional, job of establishing why Carrie should never, ever be allowed to work for the CIA again that even the buttoned-down, melancholy tone of the epilogue, and the success of Saul's operation, couldn't sell me on this major plot point.

On the other hand, Four Months Later Carrie has at least learned to stop talking when it's clear she's lost an argument — I would worry about her getting caught on camera putting graffiti on the memorial wall, but I'm going to assume that the "Homeland" version of Langley has security of roughly the quality of Akbari's office — and the epilogue effectively cleans the slate for season 4, whatever is going to happen in it. Great as Damian Lewis was for almost all of his tenure, "Homeland" needed to bring Brody's story to an end, and "The Star" did that in a way that was emotionally effective if logistically stupid. Brody got his redemption (again, only kind of, depending on what exactly the rest of the world knows/believes about him at this stage), and if Carrie has any chance of redemption as a character, it has to be without him around to drive her every bad impulse.

In an ideal world, "Homeland" would have been a riveting 12-episode miniseries that ends with Nicholas Brody killing himself and half of U.S. intelligence high command, with Carrie taking cold comfort in the knowledge that she was right about him. In a more creatively compromised but still viable world, Brody would have blown himself up and the series would have moved onto Carrie and Saul looking into a new case. Instead, the powers that be tried to milk three seasons out of Carrie and Brody's story, and while there were certainly moments along the way I'm glad I got to see ("Q and A" chief among them), the series got ever-more contrived to keep that story going.

I don't know that the a clean slate will fix things, not after a season where Carrie has so often been irritating, and Saul has so often seemed stupid (even when his insane plan to save the world was working), but a clean slate is the only shot at this point. And we have it now. And Lewis got a few more strong moments before we said goodbye. So that's something, I suppose.

But there was so much silliness needed to get to this point.
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Re: the bolded.... yep.

 
OK AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT UP THE STAR WITH LOCKHART I THOUGHT TO MYSELF NO, DON'T LET THE WRITERS DO IT BUT I KNEW THAT THESE HACKS WHO WRITE ROMANTIC VAMPIRE SAGAS WOULD ADD THIS OBVIOUS NOTE TO HAVE CARRIE BREAK OUT A SHARPIE TO A FITTING END TO HER SAGA WITH BRODHAN WHICH ONLY SURPRISED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT SHE WOULD POST A GOLDEN STAR SHE GOT FROM THE CIA LIKE YOU GET ON A 5TH GRADE ESSAY AS A LOOK AT ME I GOT A GOLD STAR YET WE ALL KNEW CARRIE WOULD DO BUT AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T WRITE IT IN BLOOD OR AMNIOTIC FLUID FROM TEH BRODY BABY IN RED AS THE ROPE AROUND BRODY'S NECK WHILE BEING HUNG BY A CRANE WITH CARRIE SHOUTING "BRODY......WAIT!" WITH BRODHAN THINKING "HOW WILL I EVER GET RID OF THIS CRAZY #####?" WHILE DYING IN A GRIMY SQUARE IN TEHRAN AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT THE STAR UP IT WAS IN THE BANK BROHANS

 
My favorite part was Carrie not providing Brody with a berka of some sort when they switched cars for the getaway.

That and Carrie going back to the hotel for some inexplicable reason.

 
nvm I guess season 4 is in the making? damN! I want to give up on the show but I just can't.

 
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I think they made up for the mistake of not killing Brody in season one as best they could. This felt pretty much like a reboot and hopefully this will now become more like The Wire in that each season will focus on a single national security theme rather than an ongoing soap opera with cliff hangar season endings.

Good enough to watch the beginning of season 4.

 
drummer said:
OK AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT UP THE STAR WITH LOCKHART I THOUGHT TO MYSELF NO, DON'T LET THE WRITERS DO IT BUT I KNEW THAT THESE HACKS WHO WRITE ROMANTIC VAMPIRE SAGAS WOULD ADD THIS OBVIOUS NOTE TO HAVE CARRIE BREAK OUT A SHARPIE TO A FITTING END TO HER SAGA WITH BRODHAN WHICH ONLY SURPRISED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT SHE WOULD POST A GOLDEN STAR SHE GOT FROM THE CIA LIKE YOU GET ON A 5TH GRADE ESSAY AS A LOOK AT ME I GOT A GOLD STAR YET WE ALL KNEW CARRIE WOULD DO BUT AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T WRITE IT IN BLOOD OR AMNIOTIC FLUID FROM TEH BRODY BABY IN RED AS THE ROPE AROUND BRODY'S NECK WHILE BEING HUNG BY A CRANE WITH CARRIE SHOUTING "BRODY......WAIT!" WITH BRODHAN THINKING "HOW WILL I EVER GET RID OF THIS CRAZY #####?" WHILE DYING IN A GRIMY SQUARE IN TEHRAN AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT THE STAR UP IT WAS IN THE BANK BROHANS
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Maybe everyone else was aware of this, but I guess we all now know what drummer's alias is...

 
"Oh, Carrie... have a seat. I'll cut right to the chase. Sure, this office has never had a more insubordinate employee. And sure, you have a long and storied history of mental problems. And yeah, okay.... I CAN'T STAND YOU. But howzabout I offer you the most sought-after position in the entire agency? Is that something you'd be interested in?"

 
Raider Nation said:
"Oh, Carrie... have a seat. I'll cut right to the chase. Sure, this office has never had a more insubordinate employee. And sure, you have a long and storied history of mental problems. And yeah, okay.... I CAN'T STAND YOU. But howzabout I offer you the most sought-after position in the entire agency? Is that something you'd be interested in?"
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I wouldn't expect anything else from this show.

In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised that by the end of next season she's running the CIA. If they give it another year maybe a VP bid.

 
Raider Nation said:
"Oh, Carrie... have a seat. I'll cut right to the chase. Sure, this office has never had a more insubordinate employee. And sure, you have a long and storied history of mental problems. And yeah, okay.... I CAN'T STAND YOU. But howzabout I offer you the most sought-after position in the entire agency? Is that something you'd be interested in?"
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Dont forget, "I see that you are also 5 months preggers and that shouldnt impact you doing your job at all right?"

 
I love how Jabadi who is the biggest asset in USA history and undercover CIA plant is brazenly talking to Carrie whenever she wants to and talks loud as well so others can hear their convos that could easily lead to him being killed. And what about torturing Brady to find out why he killed the top dog? This show is written by a pretzel.

 
drummer said:
OK AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT UP THE STAR WITH LOCKHART I THOUGHT TO MYSELF NO, DON'T LET THE WRITERS DO IT BUT I KNEW THAT THESE HACKS WHO WRITE ROMANTIC VAMPIRE SAGAS WOULD ADD THIS OBVIOUS NOTE TO HAVE CARRIE BREAK OUT A SHARPIE TO A FITTING END TO HER SAGA WITH BRODHAN WHICH ONLY SURPRISED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT SHE WOULD POST A GOLDEN STAR SHE GOT FROM THE CIA LIKE YOU GET ON A 5TH GRADE ESSAY AS A LOOK AT ME I GOT A GOLD STAR YET WE ALL KNEW CARRIE WOULD DO BUT AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T WRITE IT IN BLOOD OR AMNIOTIC FLUID FROM TEH BRODY BABY IN RED AS THE ROPE AROUND BRODY'S NECK WHILE BEING HUNG BY A CRANE WITH CARRIE SHOUTING "BRODY......WAIT!" WITH BRODHAN THINKING "HOW WILL I EVER GET RID OF THIS CRAZY #####?" WHILE DYING IN A GRIMY SQUARE IN TEHRAN AS SOON AS CARRIE BROUGHT THE STAR UP IT WAS IN THE BANK BROHANS
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Please re-write in lower case so it's not such a ##### to read.

 
pantherclub said:
Raider Nation said:
"Oh, Carrie... have a seat. I'll cut right to the chase. Sure, this office has never had a more insubordinate employee. And sure, you have a long and storied history of mental problems. And yeah, okay.... I CAN'T STAND YOU. But howzabout I offer you the most sought-after position in the entire agency? Is that something you'd be interested in?"
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Dont forget, "I see that you are also 5 months preggers and that shouldnt impact you doing your job at all right?"
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8 months, I believe.

 
biggamer3 said:
And what about torturing Brady to find out why he killed the top dog? This show is written by a pretzel.
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Jabadi was the one who ordered the hanging and he was working for the CIA? :shrug: I think your guys expectations are too high. The show is flawed, obviously, but its still entertaining tv.

I do wonder if Saul will be back next season.

 
Its like the writers had no clue what to do this season. What was the point of the pregnancy? And the whole reason for having the family dominate the first half of the season. And carrie is an eight month pregnant lunatic who almost ruined the mission fifty times yet gets offered the highest position? Carrie was awesome in season 1. I cant believe how they ####ed up her character. Oh and how about some ####### closure with brody's family. You shoved them down our throats all ####in season and you cant at least show their reaction when they find out that their father was a "hero"?

 
swirvenirvin said:
Lots of complaining in here. Why does everyone watch it if they think its so far fetched and hate everything?
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Lots of complaining everywhere. This whole season sucked. Just when you thought they were maybe putting something together for the season finale, they put the big moment at the end of episode 11, and made episode 12 a sad epilogue to the brody story that went on 1.5 seasons longer than it should have. The biggest moment in this episode ought to have been brody getting betrayed. Instead, they got that out of the way 20 minutes in.The amount of time they spent on other things gives you a good idea of their priorities. They spent more time on carrie and brody talking, and carrie being sad that he was going to die, and brody being stoic, than on any exciting escape plan. So their priority was on carries emotions, and saying goodbye to their award winning actor, not on the actual action.

The next few minutes were things like saul getting croissants instead of baguettes so you would know he left the country, and coming back to the cia so the writers could write him out if he quit or bring him back if they wanted to.

Then they wrapped up the carrie storyline by saying that she might get rid of the baby and she might be taking over as station chief. But she was also sad about brody and put a fake star on the wall. So their priority was setting up season four without brody, and simultaneously saying goodbye to their star and his wife and kids.

It was like they heard the complaints from the fans, realized we were right, and the finale was a horribly boring apology letter to us. Hey guys, we promise, no more brody crap, and no more watching his daughter make bad relationship decisions. We're sorry this season sucked but if you just give us one more chance we'll get back to the good stuff next year.

And you know what? We will probably all watch, just to see if they can get some of that magic back. But its going to be really, really hard. This season was unbelievably unbelievable. The curtain is lifted. I don't know if they can get us to suspend disbelief again.

 
Have to give this show a "C". What was right was finally getting rid of Brody. What was wrong was not showing his family at all. No updates from the Brody household due to his death/hanging. No Dana or Mrs. Brody to share in their emotional pain. Such poor writing, writing those two out of the show.

 
bostonfred said:
swirvenirvin said:
Lots of complaining in here. Why does everyone watch it if they think its so far fetched and hate everything?
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Lots of complaining everywhere. This whole season sucked. Just when you thought they were maybe putting something together for the season finale, they put the big moment at the end of episode 11, and made episode 12 a sad epilogue to the brody story that went on 1.5 seasons longer than it should have. The biggest moment in this episode ought to have been brody getting betrayed. Instead, they got that out of the way 20 minutes in.The amount of time they spent on other things gives you a good idea of their priorities. They spent more time on carrie and brody talking, and carrie being sad that he was going to die, and brody being stoic, than on any exciting escape plan. So their priority was on carries emotions, and saying goodbye to their award winning actor, not on the actual action.

The next few minutes were things like saul getting croissants instead of baguettes so you would know he left the country, and coming back to the cia so the writers could write him out if he quit or bring him back if they wanted to.

Then they wrapped up the carrie storyline by saying that she might get rid of the baby and she might be taking over as station chief. But she was also sad about brody and put a fake star on the wall. So their priority was setting up season four without brody, and simultaneously saying goodbye to their star and his wife and kids.

It was like they heard the complaints from the fans, realized we were right, and the finale was a horribly boring apology letter to us. Hey guys, we promise, no more brody crap, and no more watching his daughter make bad relationship decisions. We're sorry this season sucked but if you just give us one more chance we'll get back to the good stuff next year.

And you know what? We will probably all watch, just to see if they can get some of that magic back. But its going to be really, really hard. This season was unbelievably unbelievable. The curtain is lifted. I don't know if they can get us to suspend disbelief again.
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i agree with everything you say here except no more brody crap. While they should have wrote him out of the story after season 1 or even half way thru season 2 nothing he did was crap. Great actor imo and i enjoyed watching him on screen.
 
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