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Righetti
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I've never had ANY luck picking up insecure, twitchy, bipolar, professional chicks at the liquor store.
shadyridr
Footballguy
that was my interpretation
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
1. Dane's is as bad as ever. Overacts in every scene.
2. Carrie is now the least interesting character on the show. Her storyline, which is what the show is supposed to revolve around, has become repetitive and boring.
3. Dana's storyline is boring as well but it has actually become more interesting than Carrie's.
4. Brody Jr or whatever his name is has grown like 2 feet but is still about as smart as a lugnut.
5. Saul's domestic situation isn't really captivating either.
2. Carrie is now the least interesting character on the show. Her storyline, which is what the show is supposed to revolve around, has become repetitive and boring.
3. Dana's storyline is boring as well but it has actually become more interesting than Carrie's.
4. Brody Jr or whatever his name is has grown like 2 feet but is still about as smart as a lugnut.
5. Saul's domestic situation isn't really captivating either.
Chris Brody
Footballguy
biggamer3
Footballguy
love that this shtick is still going
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
What's weird is that I had always thought that the appeal of this show was that it didn't have to rely on action/violence/shock or whatever. It always seemed like it could stand alone as a drama. About the only time I was really interested in what happened last night was during Quinn's Jason Bourne moment.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I like Quinn. It makes sense that they make him more prominent as they wean themselves off of Brody. He was a nice addition last year. Unfortunately, they just made the mistake of keeping Brody either a half or full season too long (wherever one might stand on that issue).
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
love that this shtick is still going
My guess is that someone VERY smart and handsome is behind it.
Abu Nazir
Footballguy
love that this shtick is still going
My guess is that someone VERY smart and handsome is behind it.
Chaka
Footballguy
Haven't read the thread yet and haven't seen the premier but, while this show came out like gangbusters and it is tremendously well acted, does anyone else think it jumped the shark early in season 2? When their Osama bin Laden showed up on US soil and kidnapped Claire Daines it felt more like Season 9 of 24 than the best new show on television. And blowing up the CIA headquarters felt like a desperate and childish attempt to create drama. Both of those plot points are virtually impossible to accept even with the most forgiving amount of artistic license.
I'll give season 3 a chance but I think they would have been better served going with a The Wire format where every season had a self contained independent plot with recurring characters instead of a serial drama with cliffhanger season endings. Just my opinion.
I'll give season 3 a chance but I think they would have been better served going with a The Wire format where every season had a self contained independent plot with recurring characters instead of a serial drama with cliffhanger season endings. Just my opinion.
biggamer3
Footballguy
Yep, that was the jumping the shark moment. What most of us now forget, the season 2 episodes until after the Q and A one were just as good as anything from season one. But they went so far off the rails after Q and A, this show will likely never be the same as it was for those magical 1 and a half seasons. And kill Dana already, she is really the worst actor I have seen on a big show.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
I thought it started to jump after the Gettysburg shootout. That was a cool scene when i first saw it, but just a few minutes later i couldn't shake the feeling that it was very 24-esque. The q&a was awesome, and yes the first half of the season was overall still great, but hasn't been recaptured. Amd it'll be really tough to do so if the show keeps winning awards
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Lewis is a fine actor but I've never had a conversation about Homeland where anyone raved about him. A year later he's not even in the premier and it's not a big deal.
The producers bought into their own PR hype that Danes and Lewis have some amazing on-screen chemistry and changed the ending of season one.
The producers bought into their own PR hype that Danes and Lewis have some amazing on-screen chemistry and changed the ending of season one.
Manny, Modern Family.biggamer3 said:
biggamer3
Footballguy
Stopped watching that show in season 1, he seemed like a funny fat kid. Not sure if maybe becoming a teenager made him stick out as a bad actor though.
For my money the most unexplainable thing this show has done was have Brody (a top asset to the terrorist) play cab driver to deliver the Gettysburg dude. They have never even attempted to rationalize why the terrorists would risk that.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that.Chaka said:
NutterButter
Footballguy
Thinking the same thing. They didn't mention Nazir's name once. According to the testimony from Saul, they weren't even the one's who planned it. All the doubts I had at the end of the last episode on how Brody's truck was moved so easily right in from of the building, how he just gets into that area at all with all those explosives, how there's no security to be seen, weren't answered in the slightest. Pretty sloppy transition episode if you ask me.
Chaka
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Or that he couldn't hang up the phone with his wife first before killing a guy in the woods. That was the end of the show for me.
pantherclub
Footballguy
pretty much
I think what happened is that in season one it was an original concept that would have been awesome just as one season but then the ratings came in and they decide to go for the money grab. Then the producers had to stretch the story into complete no mans land and we end up with this.
Chaka
Footballguy
It was a huge mistake to make it a serial drama with cliffhanger season endings. It would have been much better to have made each season revolve around a specific terrorist plot unrelated to previous seasons (or related in a very limited manner). More like like the way The Wire worked.
shadyridr
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
but the premise of the show was based on a show from another country. The premise wasnt a show about terrorism but specifically about an American POW turned into a terrorist
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Great show tonight. Moral compasses of each character are turning every which way. The juxtaposition of characters is playing off each other really well. So far, these two episodes, this one especially, have been eye opening.
And, I must say, the top three ladies (Brody's wife, Brody's daughter, and Danes) have been great. Danes' little rant before the hearing felt like I was there. She made it feel real. Dana's rant in the bathroom was eye opening to the whole story. Her yoga lesson at the end though was kind of odd. Hope they go more into her aspiring yoga career. And, finally, the mom getting told by Dana that Brody was the crazy one and not them was a tear jerker. Holy cow, powerful episode by all three.
And, thank the heavens Brody has not been seen yet. Season 2 would have been great without him.
And, I must say, the top three ladies (Brody's wife, Brody's daughter, and Danes) have been great. Danes' little rant before the hearing felt like I was there. She made it feel real. Dana's rant in the bathroom was eye opening to the whole story. Her yoga lesson at the end though was kind of odd. Hope they go more into her aspiring yoga career. And, finally, the mom getting told by Dana that Brody was the crazy one and not them was a tear jerker. Holy cow, powerful episode by all three.
And, thank the heavens Brody has not been seen yet. Season 2 would have been great without him.
biggamer3
Footballguy
wow, not sure we are watching the same show. Absolute snoozer of an episode. Dana got more screen time than Carrie and Saul combined. We have already seen her in a boring romance with a troubled teen, why exactly do we need to focus so much time on her? Only way we spend this much time with her and it makes sense for the show is if she follows in dads footsteps and bombs something.
Claire Danes is great but seems like we are retreading past season material with her being in a nuthouse and everyone abandoning her. I actually like Saul, Quinn and the Muslim CIA women, give us more of them.
Claire Danes is great but seems like we are retreading past season material with her being in a nuthouse and everyone abandoning her. I actually like Saul, Quinn and the Muslim CIA women, give us more of them.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Agreed. Not sure what show Mario Kart is watching.
Interesting: Going after terrorist networks
Not Interesting: Whiny teenage girls and their crazy moms, no matter how nice they may be to look at.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Yea I'm hating the start of this season. No clue what direction they are going. Not sure why they are giving Brody's daughter so much screen time. The whole teenager boning scene and morning after should of ended up on the cutting room floor. Waste of time.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
You guys are funny. There is no way others do not see it that much different than I do. You guys started my day off just right.
The only thing that has me nervous so far is the new boyfriend. Who is this kid? Why is he in there?
One final thought... new Arab intelligence lady needs to loosen up a little. Seemed a little uptight in that meeting.
The only thing that has me nervous so far is the new boyfriend. Who is this kid? Why is he in there?
One final thought... new Arab intelligence lady needs to loosen up a little. Seemed a little uptight in that meeting.
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Yeah, I think I'm done with it. I figured I'd see if this season would be better, but it's like they're out of ideas already. Basically the exact same storylines with Danes and the daugther as last year. No new material.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
Just decided to watch the first couple episodes of this new season and holy mother of God what is this clustereff that I am seeing? Good Lord the acting is over the top, the dialogue is just cheesy and now the storylines are just out there. I may, may be in for one more week just to see if they start to come together on anything but damn this show just got put through the blender of suckitude.
So many plot holes and just overall crap its tough to over look. I would have to think if the feds thought that Brody bombed the CIA that they would pretty much confiscate the whole house and not leave his prayer blanket just laying around. The whole money transfer thing is just too generic and rushed through. LOL at Sauls testimony to the committee.
I am thinking Sauls whole angle is to push Carrie to the brink so she will run to Brody and then the CIA can chase her and catch him. Ugh.....
So many plot holes and just overall crap its tough to over look. I would have to think if the feds thought that Brody bombed the CIA that they would pretty much confiscate the whole house and not leave his prayer blanket just laying around. The whole money transfer thing is just too generic and rushed through. LOL at Sauls testimony to the committee.
I am thinking Sauls whole angle is to push Carrie to the brink so she will run to Brody and then the CIA can chase her and catch him. Ugh.....
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pantherclub
Footballguy
biggamer3
Footballguy
Also want to add, how about actually having some suspense and tension in this show? I know they lost a crapload of writers in the offseason but two episodes in and nothing suspenseful at all? Season 1 and half of season 2 were edge of your seat psychological thrillers, now we just have a woman in a nuthouse and a teen love story
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
You mean you weren't on the edge of your seat when Carrie's psych hearing was about to go down? I almost couldn't stand it!
biggamer3
Footballguy
I hate being that guy but I think I am going to hate watch this show from here on out unless it becomes as bad as Dexter became and I cant even enjoy that!Officer Pete Malloy said:
Little things that made me LOL from this first two eps:
- Episode 1, the Brody's had a grandmother living with them, who never contributed any dialogue and was missing from episode 2 entirely, what exactly was the point of her?
- Chris Brody is seriously the most useless character ever. Every freaking scene he is in no matter what the mood in the family is like he is super cheery, saying optimistic stuff and comes off like a complete tard.
- Where the F is Mike now that Brody is gone? If he exploded in the CIA bombing the show did a poor job of explaining that.
- The photo that Dana sent the boy will undoubtedly be used against her when they eventually break up, if they do go that route this might reach Dexter lows.
- Saul's spouse is useless.
- I love Quinn and all but where is this "Carrie was wronged" feeling coming from? His bosses are all dead, the evidence leads to Brody being the responsible party, why does he care so much about a chick he worked with for a few months?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Recap, for those who missed it:
- Annoying daughter did whatever she does for half the show.
- Carrie made some weird faces.
- Mario Kart loved every minute of it.
- Annoying daughter did whatever she does for half the show.
- Carrie made some weird faces.
- Mario Kart loved every minute of it.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Dammit, is it me and Mario Kart one one side of this, and everybody else on the other? 
The stuff with the daughter is insufferable. But everything with the agency and Danes still intrigues me.Dammit, is it me and Mario Kart one one side of this, and everybody else on the other?