Homeland (1 Viewer)

[biggamer3]

Yeah, I don't know about this. I was hopeful at first, but this show's hitting the skids fast, even by Showtime standards.

Hope Danes has the good sense to try and pull the plug sooner rather than later. But honestly, this should've been a mini-series.

So for someone who is new to the show would it be ideal to watch only one or two seasons?

First one's great, second one's a mess. This one's better than season 2, but nowhere near season 1.

No chance this is better then season 2. There literally hasnt been one good episode yet this season. Like 3 horrible ones and 3 passable ones. Season 2 started off with like 5 out of the first 6 episodes being amazing with Q and A being an all time great episode. Also the episode before that with Carrie finally arresting Brodie was as edge of your seat suspenseful as any Non Breaking Bad show has ever been.

Season 2 ended up comically bad so people forget how strong its first half of the season was. This season is just dog turd, if the show started off season 1 with this crap, people would never stick with it at all. We are just stuck for the ride momentarily because of its recent greatness.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Not getting all the like/love for Quin. He's a cardboard cutout.

Isn't that kind of the point?

You like bland, lifeless characters who don't add anything to the story? He's not bad, he's just kind of...there.

I'd imagine those are the kind of people who end up doing the dirty work for intelligence orgs.

Maybe so but so far his only claim to fame is he stabbed a defenseless prisoner (handcufed too IIRC) in the hand. It was an awesome scene but I honestly can't remember anything else he has done.

He refused to kill Brody and basically told the Director to go #### himself, threatening to kill him if he went through with killing Brody.

 

[(HULK)]

Not getting all the like/love for Quin. He's a cardboard cutout.

Isn't that kind of the point?

You like bland, lifeless characters who don't add anything to the story? He's not bad, he's just kind of...there.

I'd imagine those are the kind of people who end up doing the dirty work for intelligence orgs.

Maybe so but so far his only claim to fame is he stabbed a defenseless prisoner (handcufed too IIRC) in the hand. It was an awesome scene but I honestly can't remember anything else he has done.

Shot an Iranian kid for making noise in the hallway.

 

[shadyridr]

Quinn is awesome

What about him is awesome? He stabbed some guy in the hand (an unarmed prisoner), that's about the only memorable thing he has done. Is that it? How long does that carry him?

Hes an arrogant son of a ##### that will do anything for his country.

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah, I don't know about this. I was hopeful at first, but this show's hitting the skids fast, even by Showtime standards.

Hope Danes has the good sense to try and pull the plug sooner rather than later. But honestly, this should've been a mini-series.

So for someone who is new to the show would it be ideal to watch only one or two seasons?

First one's great, second one's a mess. This one's better than season 2, but nowhere near season 1.

No chance this is better then season 2. There literally hasnt been one good episode yet this season. Like 3 horrible ones and 3 passable ones. Season 2 started off with like 5 out of the first 6 episodes being amazing with Q and A being an all time great episode. Also the episode before that with Carrie finally arresting Brodie was as edge of your seat suspenseful as any Non Breaking Bad show has ever been.

Season 2 ended up comically bad so people forget how strong its first half of the season was. This season is just dog turd, if the show started off season 1 with this crap, people would never stick with it at all. We are just stuck for the ride momentarily because of its recent greatness.

Exactly

 

[roarlions]

Not getting all the like/love for Quin. He's a cardboard cutout.

Isn't that kind of the point?

You like bland, lifeless characters who don't add anything to the story? He's not bad, he's just kind of...there.

I'd imagine those are the kind of people who end up doing the dirty work for intelligence orgs.

Maybe so but so far his only claim to fame is he stabbed a defenseless prisoner (handcufed too IIRC) in the hand. It was an awesome scene but I honestly can't remember anything else he has done.

He refused to kill Brody and basically told the Director to go #### himself, threatening to kill him if he went through with killing Brody.

That scene in the Director's bedroom was pretty good, even if totally unrealistic. Plus he seems to appreciate Carrie better than anyone else.

 

[roarlions]

Quinn is awesome

Can someone explain the iranian guys backstory. Im so lost lol

From a recap on Huffington Post:

Javadi had agreed to help Saul smuggle four hostages in Iran to America in May 1979, when Iran was in "full revolutionary crisis mode." Saul had given the four hostages his word of protection by the American government. But instead of delivering the hostages to Saul, Javadi shot them in the head -- his entry into the new regime's security services. Saul gets revenge by helping Javadi's wife and son escape to the West four months later, an act that Javadi has never forgotten.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/youyoung-lee/homeland-recap-season-3-episode-6_b_4209973.html

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

 

[Chaka]

Quinn did all those things? Wow, he must suck as an actor to be that forgettable...or I picked the wrong week to start smoking weed.

 

[(HULK)]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

Its mostly us discussing how tall Chris Brody has gotten.

 

[biggamer3]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

 

[Chaka]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

Its mostly us discussing how tall Chris Brody has gotten.

He is almost a grown man now!

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

ugh.

I was hoping for better reports.

this one is going to be abandoned, in all likelihood. Should have been a 20 episode mini series.

 

[biggamer3]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

 

[Chaka]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

 

[RUSF18]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

Fanboy.

 

[Chaka]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

Fanboy.

I honestly have no idea what that means.

 

[biggamer3]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

 

[El Floppo]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

She agreed to it, but by agreeing to it she got herself into miserable situations, including being left in there beyond when she thought she would ("you should have gotten me out,Saul"). I don't mind her acting miserable in miserable situations... seems more real than just switching gears as soon as she's alone.... and of course, also furthers the "aha" moment where all is revealed.

 

[Chaka]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

She agreed to it, but by agreeing to it she got herself into miserable situations, including being left in there beyond when she thought she would ("you should have gotten me out,Saul"). I don't mind her acting miserable in miserable situations... seems more real than just switching gears as soon as she's alone.... and of course, also furthers the "aha" moment where all is revealed.

Agreed.

Again how is the sting story told without that piece? This new terrorist leader and his capture is pretty much the only thing the show has going for it that has any potential.

 

[flapgreen]

I wish Dana got chopped up by that bottle.

 

[flapgreen]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

 

[flapgreen]

No Dana, no ratings. Show is done if she is not going to be a part of it.

Whose the daddy?

Saul! That's the next twist.

 

[Sinn Fein]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

 

[jamny]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

 

[(HULK)]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?

There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

 

[flapgreen]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

Was it an act when Carrie confronted Saul in the restaurant? I'm not buying it.

 

[jamny]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

Was it an act when Carrie confronted Saul in the restaurant? I'm not buying it.

I can buy the restaurant scene but I'm just trying to remember if she was alone when she saw Saul on TV. Who would she be pretending to if she was.

 

[Chaka]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

Not sure, why?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

Not sure, why?

I am guessing its to point out a writing flaw - if she was in on the plan, why the fake outrage in her house? I can't remember if she was watching by herself, or was at her sisters.

 

[Chaka]

Was Carrie alone when she saw Saul testifying in front of Congress on TV?

Was it an act when Carrie confronted Saul in the restaurant? I'm not buying it.

I can buy the restaurant scene but I'm just trying to remember if she was alone when she saw Saul on TV. Who would she be pretending to if she was.

She's schizophrenic and stuck in a mental hospital. Why do people think that it would suddenly turn into little more than a relaxing vacation for her just because no one was actively watching her? Considering the true state of her mental health that was a brutal situation to put her into regardless of whether or not she was being watched. She was put into a living breathing nightmare vision of a very real potential future for her, who cares if she was being watched constantly? That would have to suck on levels that people who do not face that as a potential reality cannot imagine.

 

[Sinn Fein]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?

There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

If I had to guess, this will be a key point going forward with Lockhart. Saul's point of view is that the CIA is best when developing human assets, while Lockhart favors the use of drones and technology. So, somehow, Saul is going to have to turn Javadi into a useful asset.

not sure how, or why, but that is my guess.

 

[(HULK)]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?

There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

If I had to guess, this will be a key point going forward with Lockhart. Saul's point of view is that the CIA is best when developing human assets, while Lockhart favors the use of drones and technology. So, somehow, Saul is going to have to turn Javadi into a useful asset.

not sure how, or why, but that is my guess.

This is like trying to turn Bin Laden into an asset. Stupid.

Granted, this guy is plugged into the heart of Iran's government, but if Bin Laden was plugged in like that, we'd still have killed him.

 

[flapgreen]

That's a good point.

 

[roarlions]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Javadi's motivation was for telling Carrie some of the details about the bombing of the CIA? Doesn't seem to make much sense for him to volunteer the info. when Saul didn't press him for it and Carrie thought she already knew what she needed to know.

 

[Gadabout]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Javadi's motivation was for telling Carrie some of the details about the bombing of the CIA? Doesn't seem to make much sense for him to volunteer the info. when Saul didn't press him for it and Carrie thought she already knew what she needed to know.

I thought about that briefly and decided not to think about it anymore. I just watch the show and then turn myself off from it until the next episode.

 

[johnnycakes]

I like how the Senator got locked in the conference room. Then Saul shuts off the light. "Have facilities let him out."

 

[Chaka]

I like how the Senator got locked in the conference room. Then Saul shuts off the light. "Have facilities let him out."

Probably the best moment of the season.

 

[wadegarrett]

I like how the Senator got locked in the conference room. Then Saul shuts off the light. "Have facilities let him out."

Probably the best moment of the season.

That was great.

So pissed we didn't get the 15 minutes of useless Dana storyline.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I like how the Senator got locked in the conference room. Then Saul shuts off the light. "Have facilities let him out."

Probably the best moment of the season.

That was great.

So pissed we didn't get the 15 minutes of useless Dana storyline.

It's totally going to be her that gave the keys to the bomber. Bank it.

 

[simmonjm]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

Carrie is flushing her meds down the toilet because she is pregnant or at least that was my take on it. Is it safe to assume it's Brody who got her pregnant? Also is there any connection with Sauls girlfriend and Iran or Iran intel guy?

 

[simmonjm]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?

There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

I disagree think of all the intel they could get from this guy. If he goes to Iran and doesn't cooperate it would be quite easy to show how he embezzled funds and he would be killed quickly by his fellow Iranians.

 

[Johnny Bing]

I've only watched the first 2 episodes this season and they were pretty bad/boring.

Is this thread constantly on page 1 because things pick up? Or is the show getting shredded on a daily basis?

a few average episodes since then with some mind boggling dumb plot points that lead no where via Dana. I would seriously recommend you just fast forward every scene any Brody family member is in and also all the Carrie in mental hospital scenes.

The Carrie in the mental hospital scenes were excellent and kind of, y'know, highly relevant.

to each their own. With the twist in episode four, they were just a huge waste of time to me since we never know what was real or acted

I don't understand this. The sting operation was the central theme of the first half of this season.

Carrie & Saul hatched the plan almost immediately following the bombing it was all acted by Carrie but it clearly wasn't a difficult role for her because it hit so close to home. On many levels for a person like her I am sure it felt completely real most of the time and she likely had to constantly remind herself to keep focused on the true objective.

How would they have told the story of the sting operation without those episodes? Flashbacks?

There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

Is it safe to assume it's Brody who got her pregnant?

I don't think we can conclude that quite yet, she did have the fling with the other red head. Same guy who she stole the money out of his wallet when she was let out of the mental hospital.

 

[Chaka]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?

There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

I disagree think of all the intel they could get from this guy. If he goes to Iran and doesn't cooperate it would be quite easy to show how he embezzled funds and he would be killed quickly by his fellow Iranians.

It is interesting that the senator agreed with (HULK)'s take. It feels like a realistic and honest assessment of what might actually happen in that situation.

Javadi is not an idealistic Islamic radical that would be impossible to flip he's about money and can be bought and sold. He presents a unique opportunity and I could see a large divide over deciding to execute or exploit him occurring.

 

[Chaka]

I like how the Senator got locked in the conference room. Then Saul shuts off the light. "Have facilities let him out."

Probably the best moment of the season.

That was great.

So pissed we didn't get the 15 minutes of useless Dana storyline.

Interestingly enough this episode was only about 45 minutes long. Is it possible that they just edited out all the Brody family scenes in response to the overwhelmingly negative response to their storylines?

 

[RBM]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Javadi's motivation was for telling Carrie some of the details about the bombing of the CIA? Doesn't seem to make much sense for him to volunteer the info. when Saul didn't press him for it and Carrie thought she already knew what she needed to know.

I think just to #### with her head.

 

[RBM]

This show really sucks now. Was a big fan at one point. What a damn disappointment. I can hardly figure out what this Iranian is about, and I really don't care.

Iranian is an leading intelligence officer, whom they hope to turn into an asset by blackmailing him about his embezzling funds from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

He's also the man behind the bombing of the CIA that was the worst attack since 9/11. Who are you going to use him to get to? For intel?There should be no forgiveness. They should just execute him.

Strangely, this is probably the most far fetched thing this season.

Yup, I'm with the doosh senator on this one.

 

[bostonfred]

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There too many instances where Carrie was alone and acting like she wanted to end her life, you can say she was playing her undercover role, but it doesnt seem real. She can act all nutty when people are around, but her cursing out Saul was a total misdirection from the writers since she wasnt actually feeling that upset with Saul since she had agreed to it. Either way, I dont find Carrie acting batty and flushing down her meds interesting after seeing this for the first two season.

She agreed to it, but by agreeing to it she got herself into miserable situations, including being left in there beyond when she thought she would ("you should have gotten me out,Saul"). I don't mind her acting miserable in miserable situations... seems more real than just switching gears as soon as she's alone.... and of course, also furthers the "aha" moment where all is revealed.

Also I don't think she agreed to have the brody affair on national tv and if she is carrying his unborn baby that might have upset her. So would a heavily sedated hospital stay that she wasn't fully expecting. It also makes some of the flat notes, like her banging her head on the mirror and asking her shrink to get a message to saul, make more sense. I'm bored with the show but at least that stuff makes sense. The fact that brody is still alive and anyone cares whether he actually did it does not make sense. The fact that carrie would do operation yoga pants to save the daughter does not make sense. Quinn confessing and getting a lecture and nothing else from the detective does not make sense. But the hospital thing is somewhat plausible.

 

[Raider Nation]

Every time I see Saul, I want to shampoo and shave him.