Homers help me with your O-lines (1 Viewer)

[chris1969]

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.

Team Lt Lg C Rg Rt

Chicago Bears John Tait Ruben Brown Olin Kreutz Roberto Garza Fred Miller

Top Back-ups John St Clair Terrence Metcalf Josh Beekman

New England Patriots Matt Light Logan Mankins Dan Koppen Stephen Neal Nick Kaczur

Top Back-ups Ryan O'Callaghan Wesley Britt Ross Hochstein

Philadelphia Eagles William Thomas Todd Herremans Jamaal Jackson Shawn Andrews Jon Runyon

Top Back-ups Winston Justice Max Jean-Gilles Scott Young

Pittsburgh Steelers Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Sean Mahan Kendall Simmons Max Starks

Top Back-ups Chris Kemoeatu Willie Colon Trai Essex

San Diego Chargers Marcus McNeil Kris Dielman Nick Hardwick Mike Goff Shane Olivea

Top Back-ups Roman Oben Scott Mruczkowski Cory Withrow

Jacksonville Jaguars Khalif Barnes Vince Manuwai Brad Meester Chris Naeole Tony Pashos

Top Back-ups Maurice Williams Dennis Norman Stockar McDougle

Indianapolis Colts Tarik Glenn Ryan Lilja Jeff Saturday Jake Scott Ryan Diem

Top Back-ups Charlie Johnson Tony Ugoh Dylan Gandy

San Francisco 49ers Jonas Jennings Larry Allen Eric Heitmann Justin Smiley Kwame Harris

Top Back-ups Adam Snyder Joe Staley Tony Wragge

Cincinnati Bengals Levi Jones Andrew Whitworth Eric Ghiaciuc Bobbie Williams Willie Anderson

Top Back-ups Alex Stepanovich Stacy Andrews Scott Kooistra

Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie Steve Hutchinson Matt Birk Artis Hicks Ryan Cook

Top Back-ups Marcus Johnson Anthony Herrera Jimmy Martin

Denver Broncos Matt Lepsis Ben Hamilton Tom Nalen Chris Kuper Erik Pears

Top Back-ups Ryan Harris Chris Myers Montrae Holland

Tennesee Titans Michael Roos Jacob Bell Kevin Mawae Benji Olson David Stewart

Top Back-ups Leroy Harris Eugene Amano Mike Otto

Green Bay Packers Chad Clifton Daryn College Scott Wells Jason Spitz Mark Tauscher

Top Back-ups Tony Moll Allen Barbre Josh Bourke

New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown Jamar Nesbit Jeff Faine Jahri Evans Jon Stinchcomb

Top Back-ups Jonathan Goodwin Zach Strief Rob Petitti

New York Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson Pete Kendall Nick Mangold Brandon Moore Anthony Clement

Top Back-ups Wade Smith Adrian Jones Jacob Bender

Carolina Panthers Travelle Wharton Mike Wahle Justin Hartwig Evan Mathis Jordan Gross

Top Back-ups Ryan Kalil Jeremy Bridges Geoff Hangartner

Washington Redskins Chris Samuels Todd Wade Casey Rabach Randy Thomas Jon Jansen

Top Back-ups Mike Pucillo Jason Fabini Ross Tucker

Baltimore Ravens Jonathan Ogden Jason Brown Mike Flynn Keydrick Vincent Adam Terry

Top Back-ups Ben Grubbs Chris Chester Marshal Yanda

Dallas Cowboys Flozell Adams Kyle Kosier Andre Gurode Leonard Davis Marc Columbo

Top Back-ups James Marten Doug Free Cory Procter

Tampa Bay Buccaneers Luke Petitgout Anthony Davis John Wade Davin Joseph Jeremy Trueblood

Top Back-ups Arron Sears Jeb Terry Chris Denman

New York Giants David Diehl Rich Seubert Shaun O'Hara Chris Snee Kareem Mckenzie

Top Back-ups Grey Ruegamer Guy Whimper Jay Alford

St Louis Rams Orlando Pace Mark Setterstrom Brett Romberg Richie Incognito Alex Barron

Top Back-ups Andy McCollum Todd Steussie Claude Terrell

Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas Eric Steinbach Hank Fraley Ryan Tucker Kevin Shaffer

Top Back-ups Seth McKinney Kelly Butler Lennie Friedman

Arizona Cardinals Mike Gandy Reggie Wells Al Johnson Deuce Lutui Levi Brown

Top Back-ups Nick Leckey Oliver Ross Taitusi Lutui

Atlanta Falcons Wayne Gandy Justin Blalock Todd McClure Kynan Forney Todd Weiner

Top Back-ups Doug Datish Tyson Clabo Quinn Ojinnaka

Houston Texans Charles Spencer Chester Pitts Mike Flanagan Fred Weary Eric Winston

Top Back-ups Ephraim Salaam Steve McKinney Jordan Black

Buffalo Bills Jason Peters Derrick Dockery Melvin Fowler Duke Preston Langston Walker

Top Back-ups Jason Whittle Terrance Pennington Brad Butler

Seattle Seahawks Walter Jones Rob Sims Chris Spencer Chris Gray Sean Locklear

Top Back-ups Floyd Womack Ray Willis Mansfield Wrotto

Kansas City Chiefs Damion McIntosh Brian Waters Casey Weigmann John Welbourn Chris Terry

Top Back-ups Chris Bober Kevin Sampson Rudy Niswanger

Detroit Lions Jeff Backus Edwin Muilitalo Damien Raiola Damien Woody George Foster

Top Back-ups Barry Stokes Rex Tucker Stephen Peterman

Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey Chris Liwienski Rex Hadnot Joe Toledo LJ Shelton

Top Back-ups Samson Satele Anthony Alabi Drew Mormino

Oakland Raiders Barry Sims Paul McQuistan Jake Grove Kevin Boothe Robert Gallery

Top Back-ups Cooper Carlisle Jeremy Newberry Chad Slaughter

 

[massraider]

Oakland is far from settled, but for now, the only change for sure would be Carlisle for Boothe. Boothe looked good last year, relatively, but he's a masher, and Carlisle is a zone blocking guy. He's gonna start.

 

[Phlash]

Pats

Kazcur is a turnstile, and O'Callaghan was a BEAST last year and should be the starter. He was injured (which was his biggest knock coming out of college) but he's played more like a late first round pick than a 5th round pick, and will definitely be starting in Kazcur's spot, who has been a big disappointment to say the least.

 

[lions327]

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.Detroit Lions Jeff Backus Edwin Muilitalo Damien Raiola Damien Woody George Foster Top Back-ups Barry Stokes Rex Tucker Stephen Peterman

Regarding Damien Woody, he will be one to watch during camp. He has had weight issues, has a big contract, and the Lions really like Peterman. Woody is a candidate to be cut.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I thought Okobi (PIT) was playing with the 1st-team at center??

 

[simmonjm]

For Dallas the top back up would Pat McQuistan he is able to play LT and LG. So if Flozell leaves next year or Kosier is not effective he would replace either one of them. Dallas is very high on this kid. He is very athletic and if given the chance he could succeed.

 

[rascal]

Denver's looks good, although a key backup is Meadows at tackle. Supposedly he is battling with Pears for RT, but I think it's Pears to lose.

 

[chris1969]

Keep em coming guys! This is exactly what I'm looking for.

 

[D_House]

Bills

What you have looks good. To clarify, Whittle is the interior line backup and Pennington is the backup at both T positions. However, the right side of the line is currently unsettled, particularly at RG, where Preston and Whittle alternated during OTAs.

 

[chris1969]

Oakland is far from settled, but for now, the only change for sure would be Carlisle for Boothe. Boothe looked good last year, relatively, but he's a masher, and Carlisle is a zone blocking guy. He's gonna start.

The line-ups for the Raiders and the Dolphins are so hard to figure out I'm sure I'm gonna have to make major adjustments once training camp hits. I think Carlisle will win a starter spot over Boothe but not not until mid season They are gonna want to establish the run early to take the heat off whoever is the QB and Boothe is a great run blocker.

Pats Kazcur is a turnstile, and O'Callaghan was a BEAST last year and should be the starter. He was injured (which was his biggest knock coming out of college) but he's played more like a late first round pick than a 5th round pick, and will definitely be starting in Kazcur's spot, who has been a big disappointment to say the least.

I think Pats fans give Kazcur too much grief. I agree that O'Callaghan can steal a job, but I think Matt Light is a better candidate. I have Light listed as the 15th best LT, but Kazcur listed as the 11th best RT

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.Detroit Lions Jeff Backus Edwin Muilitalo Damien Raiola Damien Woody George Foster Top Back-ups Barry Stokes Rex Tucker Stephen Peterman

Regarding Damien Woody, he will be one to watch during camp. He has had weight issues, has a big contract, and the Lions really like Peterman. Woody is a candidate to be cut.

If he gets cut, who do you think takes his job?

I thought Okobi (PIT) was playing with the 1st-team at center??

That could be true, I haven't heard a Steeler Homer say who was the better of the two as of yet.

For Dallas the top back up would Pat McQuistan he is able to play LT and LG. So if Flozell leaves next year or Kosier is not effective he would replace either one of them. Dallas is very high on this kid. He is very athletic and if given the chance he could succeed.

Who should he replace on my list and why?

Denver's looks good, although a key backup is Meadows at tackle. Supposedly he is battling with Pears for RT, but I think it's Pears to lose.

Who should Meadows replace on my back-up list and why?

Bills What you have looks good. To clarify, Whittle is the interior line backup and Pennington is the backup at both T positions. However, the right side of the line is currently unsettled, particularly at RG, where Preston and Whittle alternated during OTAs.

Yeah I'm still really unsettled at that RG spot let me know if you get any solid reports of who's winning that job.

 

[rascal]

If Lepsis is unable to regain his form prior to his injury, then more then likely Pears will switch to LT (where he played last year after Lepsis got hurt) and Meadows will start at RT. To expect a rookie in Harris to start for the Broncos is asking a bit much. I honestly don't think a rookie has ever started along the o-line for the Broncos since Shanny became head coach.

 

[chris1969]

If Lepsis is unable to regain his form prior to his injury, then more then likely Pears will switch to LT (where he played last year after Lepsis got hurt) and Meadows will start at RT. To expect a rookie in Harris to start for the Broncos is asking a bit much. I honestly don't think a rookie has ever started along the o-line for the Broncos since Shanny became head coach.

I don't have Harris starting. I agree it's too hard for a rookie to start in the Denver system. I do have Harris as my top back-up though.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I thought Okobi (PIT) was playing with the 1st-team at center??

Camp will open with Smith, Faneca, Okobi, Simmons, Starks from left to right.

 

[chris1969]

Thanks BST

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Thanks BST

NP, be on your toes, there are at least 4 players with shots to start... Kemoeatu, Mahan, Colon, Essex.Camp and preseason will decide what the opening day line up is besides Smith and Faneca.

 

[rascal]

If Lepsis is unable to regain his form prior to his injury, then more then likely Pears will switch to LT (where he played last year after Lepsis got hurt) and Meadows will start at RT. To expect a rookie in Harris to start for the Broncos is asking a bit much. I honestly don't think a rookie has ever started along the o-line for the Broncos since Shanny became head coach.

I don't have Harris starting. I agree it's too hard for a rookie to start in the Denver system. I do have Harris as my top back-up though.

Yeah I think your top backup should be Meyers as he plays G/C, then Holland (still a toss up between him and Kuper), then Meadows before Harris. If it was Harris' second year then I would have him ahead of Meadows but not yet.

 

[chris1969]

If Lepsis is unable to regain his form prior to his injury, then more then likely Pears will switch to LT (where he played last year after Lepsis got hurt) and Meadows will start at RT. To expect a rookie in Harris to start for the Broncos is asking a bit much. I honestly don't think a rookie has ever started along the o-line for the Broncos since Shanny became head coach.

I don't have Harris starting. I agree it's too hard for a rookie to start in the Denver system. I do have Harris as my top back-up though.

Yeah I think your top backup should be Meyers as he plays G/C, then Holland (still a toss up between him and Kuper), then Meadows before Harris. If it was Harris' second year then I would have him ahead of Meadows but not yet.

Thanks rascal, any particular reason you rank Harris that low other than the system being hard to learn?

 

[Wadsworth]

For Jacksonville you have the starters correct and Mo Williams and Norman are certainly the first 2 back ups. After that there will be a battle in camp for the remaining back up roster spots. What could change is Mo Williams is still under a contract that pays him starter money so he could be traded or released. Also, Chris Naelole is unhappy with his contract and has expressed vague threats of a training camp hold out.

 

[Afro Samurai]

New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown Jamar Nesbit Jeff Faine Jahri Evans Jon Stinchcomb Top Back-ups Jonathan Goodwin Zach Strief Rob Petitti

5th round pick Jermon Bushrod (Towson) was playing left tackle with the 2nd team in camp and has drawn ridiculous amounts of praise. It would not be out of the question if he beat out Nesbit or even Stinchcomb for a starting position. At the very least, he will probably back up at left tackle and guard.

 

[chris1969]

For Jacksonville you have the starters correct and Mo Williams and Norman are certainly the first 2 back ups. After that there will be a battle in camp for the remaining back up roster spots. What could change is Mo Williams is still under a contract that pays him starter money so he could be traded or released. Also, Chris Naelole is unhappy with his contract and has expressed vague threats of a training camp hold out.

New Orleans Saints Jammal Brown Jamar Nesbit Jeff Faine Jahri Evans Jon Stinchcomb Top Back-ups Jonathan Goodwin Zach Strief Rob Petitti

5th round pick Jermon Bushrod (Towson) was playing left tackle with the 2nd team in camp and has drawn ridiculous amounts of praise. It would not be out of the question if he beat out Nesbit or even Stinchcomb for a starting position. At the very least, he will probably back up at left tackle and guard.

Thanks guys! I didn't hear of either of those stories, so that helps a lot.

 

[BLOX]

You have the Packers correct. Although Barbre is being groomed for LG right now, keep an eye on what he does in TC because it may mean that he could push Spits instead.

Here's an interesting note about the O-line from a couple of months ago:

Perhaps no position group on a football team needs better cohesion than an offensive line, and the Packers' linemen spent a lot of time this offseason building some camaraderie.

Center Scott Wells said over the last few months the linemen have been getting together two or three times per week to go bowling, watch movies, play cards or enjoy other fun activities.

It may seem like small steps but they add up in the larger picture.

"There's a huge bond with us," Wells said. "I'd have to say we're all friends, which is huge. If you can be friends off the field, you can be friends on the field, you trust one another. You trust they're going to do their job and you have more confidence in one another. There's no questions."

Wells said the linemen also help to coach one another during practice as another way to foster communication.

"That's built through spending as much time together as we can," he said.

 

[lions327]

Keep em coming guys! This is exactly what I'm looking for.

Excellent work by you starting this thread.

 

[Phlash]

Pats Kazcur is a turnstile, and O'Callaghan was a BEAST last year and should be the starter. He was injured (which was his biggest knock coming out of college) but he's played more like a late first round pick than a 5th round pick, and will definitely be starting in Kazcur's spot, who has been a big disappointment to say the least.

I think Pats fans give Kazcur too much grief. I agree that O'Callaghan can steal a job, but I think Matt Light is a better candidate. I have Light listed as the 15th best LT, but Kazcur listed as the 11th best RT

I'm no fan of using Pro-bowls in an argument, but Matt Light has played like one for a couple seasons now, and finally made it last year. He plays well against almost all types of DEs, and only a few in the league give him grief - he usually puts up a good fight against even the best of DEs, although he is not a dominator type tackle like an Orlando Pace or Walter Jones. He gives a very consistent performance, which is a good thing to have out of your LT. However, one thing to note about Matt Light is that he's more of a natural at RT and plays much better there, and hopefully the Patriots can find a suitable LT down the road (maybe try Kazcur/O'Callaghan there and see what happens) to make the line even that much more dominant.Kazcur finds himself lost against players of superior talent, and sometimes average players. I agree, Kazcur is not horrible and could breakout this season as I believe he has a bunch of talent, but he needs to get his head in the game like O'Callaghan did right off the bat last year. In either case, Kazcur is a great depth player, but I think BB is going to be starting O'Callaghan simply based on his tenacity alone, regardless of the fact that he is a huge and powerful man.

 

[gump]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers Luke Petitgout Anthony Davis John Wade Davin Joseph Jeremy Trueblood

Top Back-ups Arron Sears Jeb Terry Chris Denman

Arron Sears is the heavy favorite to start at LG.Dan Buenning and Matt Lehr will compete with Wade at C.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/27/Bucs/Off...ne_might_.shtml

 

[jchap31]

For New Orleans

Bushrod is backup LT, Alleman is backup LG (for now, they think he may take over the starting job from Nesbit by Sept.), Strief is backup RT I believe now since they drafted Bushrod.

 

[derek19]

San Francisco 49ers Jonas Jennings Larry Allen Eric Heitmann Justin Smiley Kwame Harris Top Back-ups Adam Snyder Joe Staley Tony Wragge

Add David Bass to the Top Back-ups.

 

[Keith Lewis]

San Francisco 49ers Jonas Jennings Larry Allen Eric Heitmann Justin Smiley Kwame Harris Top Back-ups Adam Snyder Joe Staley Tony Wragge

Add David Bass to the Top Back-ups.

There has been alot of talk about Staley starting at Right tackle, I can't see Kwame Harris starting again, I can see him cut before starting.

 

[greenf7cat]

KC is correct. Kyle Turley may end up signing with KC again before camp, but good so far.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Baltimore Ravens Jonathan Ogden Jason Brown Mike Flynn Keydrick Vincent Adam Terry

Top Back-ups Ben Grubbs Chris Chester Marshal Yanda

Ravens:As of right now, Chester is officially ahead of Vincent at RG. It would shock nobody if Grubbs ended up being the starting RG (I think the shock will be if he doesn't), and Chester may start at center in front of Flynn, but none of that will be official until the rookie earns his stripes and proves himself in training camp. I'd add Brian Rimpf to the end of the list of backups.

 

[rascal]

If Lepsis is unable to regain his form prior to his injury, then more then likely Pears will switch to LT (where he played last year after Lepsis got hurt) and Meadows will start at RT. To expect a rookie in Harris to start for the Broncos is asking a bit much. I honestly don't think a rookie has ever started along the o-line for the Broncos since Shanny became head coach.

I don't have Harris starting. I agree it's too hard for a rookie to start in the Denver system. I do have Harris as my top back-up though.

Yeah I think your top backup should be Meyers as he plays G/C, then Holland (still a toss up between him and Kuper), then Meadows before Harris. If it was Harris' second year then I would have him ahead of Meadows but not yet.

Thanks rascal, any particular reason you rank Harris that low other than the system being hard to learn?

No. I think he will be a starter in 2-3 years, probably in place of Lepsis, but experience and cohesion are extremely important in Denver's system as I'm sure you are aware.Look forward to your rankings.

 

[massraider]

Oakland is far from settled, but for now, the only change for sure would be Carlisle for Boothe. Boothe looked good last year, relatively, but he's a masher, and Carlisle is a zone blocking guy. He's gonna start.

The line-ups for the Raiders and the Dolphins are so hard to figure out I'm sure I'm gonna have to make major adjustments once training camp hits. I think Carlisle will win a starter spot over Boothe but not not until mid season They are gonna want to establish the run early to take the heat off whoever is the QB and Boothe is a great run blocker.

The only real constant in OTA's and minicamps were Grove at C and Carlisle at RG. Gallery, Sims, and McQuistan all worked at starting T, and Gallery even played some G.

 

[redman]

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.Team Lt Lg C Rg Rt Washington Redskins Chris Samuels Todd Wade Casey Rabach Randy Thomas Jon Jansen Top Back-ups Mike Pucillo Jason Fabini Ross Tucker

The starters look good. The only position that's up in the air is Wade, and you to my understanding have omitted the guy who is looked to as the primary alternative to Wade if he doesn't transition well to LG: Will Whitticker.

 

[FavreCo]

Good stuff. Now let's see someone rank them from 1 to 32 in pass blocking and run blocking. You will be the greatest poster of all-time.

 

[chris1969]

That's exactly what I'm doing with the data once I've got the players right.

 

[steelcityman]

Chukki Okobi will start, or at least have the first shot to start, at Center for the Steelers, not Mahan. Mahan is going to be the first backup at a few OL positions.

 

[PSULions]

For the Panthers:

It is hard to say at this point because the Panthers are trying to put the best 5 guys out on the field, but I have heard that Bridges is getting time with the 1st team at G replacing Evan Mathis.

My best guess at this point would be:

Wharton, Wahle, Hartwig, Bridges, Gross (1st team)

Kahil, Hangartner, Montgomery, Butler and Mathis (2nd team)

 

[kutta]

Arizona Cardinals Mike Gandy Reggie Wells Al Johnson Deuce Lutui Levi Brown

Top Back-ups Nick Leckey Oliver Ross Taitusi Lutui

Word is that Ross is ahead of Levi Brown right now, but that could change.Link

Ross emerged from off-season drills as the starter at right tackle, but his hold on the job is tenuous. He's backed up by Levi Brown, the fifth overall pick in April's draft, and it's unlikely Brown would spend the season as a reserve.

 

[chris1969]

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.Team Lt Lg C Rg Rt Washington Redskins Chris Samuels Todd Wade Casey Rabach Randy Thomas Jon Jansen Top Back-ups Mike Pucillo Jason Fabini Ross Tucker

The starters look good. The only position that's up in the air is Wade, and you to my understanding have omitted the guy who is looked to as the primary alternative to Wade if he doesn't transition well to LG: Will Whitticker.

I heard Pucillo would get the nod if Wade couldn't transition, is there a reason you think Whitticker would be a better choice?

 

[rascal]

BTW, most Bronco fans will tell you that Pears is an upgrade over Foster. And I agree. The past two years Foster has been a turnstile at RT. Pears played very well at LT in place of Lepsis and went up against some outstanding DE's and did very well. He should do well at RT, especially with one of the best blocking TE's in the league playing next to him (Graham).

Kuper has the potential to be better then Carlisle, but I'm not sure at this point. I wouldn't consider that improvement, and maybe a little bit of a hit to be honest. For example, if you had Carlisle rated 86, then I'd rank Kuper at 83 or 84. Although the potential is there to be better by seasons end, at the beginning I think Carlisle is a little bit better.

 

[redman]

This is my best estimate of your starters and your top back-ups going into camp. Please let me know if I'm off-base on any players here. Please don't post the "I think this guy will beat out this guy.", post the "This guy has been starting with the first team in mini-camp." Also on the top back-ups, if you think there is a talent that I overlooked tell me which of my back-ups he is better than and why. I plan on posting my rankings soon, but I want to make sure everything is accurate. I've been working on O-lines on and off for a while, so I apologize if something is out-dated.

Team Lt Lg C Rg Rt

Washington Redskins Chris Samuels Todd Wade Casey Rabach Randy Thomas Jon Jansen

Top Back-ups Mike Pucillo Jason Fabini Ross Tucker

The starters look good. The only position that's up in the air is Wade, and you to my understanding have omitted the guy who is looked to as the primary alternative to Wade if he doesn't transition well to LG: Will Whitticker.

I heard Pucillo would get the nod if Wade couldn't transition, is there a reason you think Whitticker would be a better choice?

Pucillo is probably still in the mix, but given Whitticker's emergence and age and upside it appears Bugel wants to give him a good opportunity to win the job if Wade can't do it. They also have Kili Lefotu, another young prospect who the team likes and who performed well in NFL Europe this offseason.

 

[chris1969]

Thanks for the feedback Redman. I'll put him in for Pucillo.

 

[-X-]

I love this thread, please keep it going. I picked up Mahan soon after the Steelers signed him and after some comments that he'd likely be the starting center. I can still pick up Okobi, though.

 

[brednbuddah]

jets:

Kendall will not be with the team come opening day and Brandon Moore is garbage. Adrian Jones is probably the most "ready" to fill-in, but that's not saying much.

 

[chris1969]

jets:Kendall will not be with the team come opening day and Brandon Moore is garbage. Adrian Jones is probably the most "ready" to fill-in, but that's not saying much.

Is there a link for this or is it personal opinion?

 

[brednbuddah]

jets:Kendall will not be with the team come opening day and Brandon Moore is garbage. Adrian Jones is probably the most "ready" to fill-in, but that's not saying much.

Is there a link for this or is it personal opinion?

a little of both. Kendal has burned every bridge (check star-ledger archives) and brandon moore is just a warm body. ask anybody. adrian jones is our best bet going into camp.

 

[seahawk 17]

Seattle Seahawks Walter Jones Rob Sims Chris Spencer Chris Gray Sean Locklear

Top Back-ups Floyd Womack Ray Willis Mansfield Wrotto

I would swap Willis and Gray. Grey came back as depth and insurance...not to start. In addition reports from training camp homers are Willis is the guy.

Nice coverage of the whole league, I like it.

 

[derek19]

San Francisco 49ers Jonas Jennings Larry Allen Eric Heitmann Justin Smiley Kwame Harris Top Back-ups Adam Snyder Joe Staley Tony Wragge

Add David Bass to the Top Back-ups.

There has been alot of talk about Staley starting at Right tackle, I can't see Kwame Harris starting again, I can see him cut before starting.

No way they cut anyone. Kwame may not be that good but it does give the 9ers depth. Plus, if a team during the season needs an O-lineman, 9ers may be able to get a pick for him...

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Chukki Okobi will start, or at least have the first shot to start, at Center for the Steelers, not Mahan. Mahan is going to be the first backup at a few OL positions.

I think this is a toss up right now. My gut says Okobi but it really remains to be seen. Also for the OP: Your right side of the Steelers line is correct but I think that both Simmons and Starks jobs are on thin ice. Both of those guys are going to be expensive to re-sign and I think the general consensus is that people would like to see the younger (read: cheaper) Kemoeatu and Colon succeed this year at RG and RT, respectively.

 

[Weiner Dog]

To throw some other logs on the fire...

** Gandy or Ugoh could unseat Lilja at G for the Colts. Once Glenn is gone after '07, Ugoh will be moved back to T.

** I'm not sure how much of a strangle-hold Muilitalo has on a starting G position with the Lions. Stokes could challenge him.

** Has Blalock overtaken Clabo at G for the Falcons??

 

[Construction Man Jim]

New York Giants David Diehl Rich Seubert Shaun O'Hara Chris Snee Kareem Mckenzie Top Back-ups Grey Ruegamer Guy Whimper Jay Alford

You have the starters right but Jay Alford is a DT... Back ups:OT - Guy Whimper, Adam Koets, Jonathan Dunn OG - Zach Piller, Matt Lentz OC - Grey Ruegamer, Todd Londot