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Honest question: Why fear genetically engineered food? (1 Viewer)

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I don't get it. It seems as if people are willing - if not eager - to eat stuff that's been repeatedly shown to be bad for them anyway, why all the attention and fear for genetically engineered foods? Are there any studies that show them to be harmful? :rolleyes:

 
KCC said:
I don't get it. It seems as if people are willing - if not eager - to eat stuff that's been repeatedly shown to be bad for them anyway, why all the attention and fear for genetically engineered foods? Are there any studies that show them to be harmful? :confused:
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You answer your own question. :confused:
 
I think the only really viable fear is that if the genetically altered population mates with the wild population will there be unforeseen circumstances

 
Define genetically engineered. Most importantly, define the line where you would have an issue with the FDA approving genetically engineered food. For example, let's say we genetically engineered a cow that excreted crude oil. Would you be willing to eat it? Would you want them to put a label on it so you could make the choice? What if we had bred cattle to be larger and fattier, then pumped them full of hormones, and fed them rancid corn while locking them in tiny pens? Actually, they do that last bit so much that they put a label on the meat where they DON'T do it and charge you extra.

 
KCC said:
I don't get it. It seems as if people are willing - if not eager - to eat stuff that's been repeatedly shown to be bad for them anyway, why all the attention and fear for genetically engineered foods? Are there any studies that show them to be harmful? :shrug:
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Not harmful to eat, but if they remove on accident a protection from a common disease and this wipes out the entire salmon population on the globe....that would be bad.
 
eoMMan said:
KCC said:
I don't get it. It seems as if people are willing - if not eager - to eat stuff that's been repeatedly shown to be bad for them anyway, why all the attention and fear for genetically engineered foods? Are there any studies that show them to be harmful? :shrug:
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You answer your own question. :confused:
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No - my point was that if people don't fear foods which have been claerly shown to be unhealthy, the fear for foods that haven't been shown to be harmful is puzzling.
 
I'm gonna wait for the report from Obama's Czar of Unintended Consequences, but he or she is pretty busy right now...

 
pfffft. "genetically engineered" could mean anything. Tomatoes that are resistant to fusarium wilt, f'rinstance. Rice enhanced with iron. Heck--most medicines.

That catchphrase has been abused as a scare tactic when there's a whole lot more to worry about imo--some are no good for you but not the majority.

 
Because it will pollinate non-genetically engineered plants which will then become the property of monsanto or whichever company that has the patent rights.

 
The side effect of GMO food is that in 20 years there will be less traffic on the freeways. So please, eat that #### up!

 
Honestly the more important question here, especially in what is supposed to be a marketplace where i get choice, is why doesn't it have to be labeled so I can make the decision myself as to whether i eat it or not.

 
killface said:
Honestly the more important question here, especially in what is supposed to be a marketplace where i get choice, is why doesn't it have to be labeled so I can make the decision myself as to whether i eat it or not.
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This was tried but either lobbyists or reps. from the industry got the FDA to agree to not put a label on the packaging. Their reasoning? They don't want people to be scared away from the food because it has a GMO label on it.For me the most important reason for not purchasing things with GMOs is not supporting Monsanto. Like someone said before if a Monsanto GMO crop cross pollinates with a neighboring crop, that farmer can now be sued by Monsanto because the crop now has the patented gene which was in the GMO Monsanto crop. Crazy as it sounds, it's true.Also we can only F with nature so much until something bad happens. The natural order of things needs to be preserved to continue sustainability.
 
bostonfred said:
Define genetically engineered. Most importantly, define the line where you would have an issue with the FDA approving genetically engineered food. For example, let's say we genetically engineered a cow that excreted crude oil. Would you be willing to eat it? Would you want them to put a label on it so you could make the choice? What if we had bred cattle to be larger and fattier, then pumped them full of hormones, and fed them rancid corn while locking them in tiny pens? Actually, they do that last bit so much that they put a label on the meat where they DON'T do it and charge you extra.
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Would this eliminate cooking oil for me?
 
Cunk said:
Also we can only F with nature so much until something bad happens. The natural order of things needs to be preserved to continue sustainability.
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We've been screwing with the 'natural order of things' since pretty much day 1. The majority of 'natural' foods had evolved to be unpalatable or to make their predators ill as part of their natural defenses. We've been changing foods from their natural state to taste more to our liking, remove these defenses or increase yields for thousands of years. As a matter of fact, this meddling with the natural order has allowed us to feed an exploding population base in an increasingly sustainable manner.
 
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Running with scissors said:
Cunk said:
Also we can only F with nature so much until something bad happens. The natural order of things needs to be preserved to continue sustainability.
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We've been screwing with the 'natural order of things' since pretty much day 1. The majority of 'natural' foods had evolved to be unpalatable or to make their predators ill as part of their natural defenses. We've been changing foods from their natural state to taste more to our liking, remove these defenses or increase yields for thousands of years. As a matter of fact, this meddling with the natural order has allowed us to feed an exploding population base in an increasingly sustainable manner.
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True. I am not sure that is such a good thing.
 
Because first it's genetically engineered food, then before you know it we end up with a black president and then it will be legal for the gays to get married, and this will all bring about the ebola apocalypse.

 
Country Boys said:
The research has overwhelmingly found GMO crops to be as safe as conventionally or organically grown foods. Furthermore, little to no evidence of negative environmental impact has been found. But screw the science...aren't we supposed to disregard scientific evidence and believe whatever the heck fits our agenda in spite of the data?

http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Nicolia-20131.pdf
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Are you referring to organic scientific data or genetically modified scientific data,

 
I think the problem is that GMOs and Monsanto have become interchangeable when people fear-monger.

GMO aren't inherently a bad thing. I like seedless watermelons.

 
I trust the science behind best of class breeding, but my Facebook friends suggest that genetically modified foods are bad. I'm gonna side with the people that are scared of big words. They must know something.

 
KCC said:
eoMMan said:
KCC said:
I don't get it. It seems as if people are willing - if not eager - to eat stuff that's been repeatedly shown to be bad for them anyway, why all the attention and fear for genetically engineered foods? Are there any studies that show them to be harmful? :shrug:
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You answer your own question. :confused:
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No - my point was that if people don't fear foods which have been claerly shown to be unhealthy, the fear for foods that haven't been shown to be harmful is puzzling.
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Do gmo seed companies even allow independent testing?

 
I just saw a reference to a poll where 83% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain GMOs ... while 80% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain DNA.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I just saw a reference to a poll where 83% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain GMOs ... while 80% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain DNA.
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I saw that :lmao: The number of people that want to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide is really funny

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I just saw a reference to a poll where 83% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain GMOs ... while 80% of respondents favored mandatory labeling on foods that contain DNA.
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From that same study:
Secondly, participants were asked Did you read any books about food and agriculture in the past year?

Participants were asked to select Yes, No, or I dont know.

Just over 16% of participants stated that they had read a book related to food and agriculture in the past year.

About 81% answered No, and 3% answered I dont know.

Those who answered Yes were asked: What is the title of the most recent book you read about food and agriculture? The vast majority of responses were of the form I dont remember or cannot recall. Fast Food Nation, Food Inc., and Omnivores Dilemma were each mentioned about three times. The Farmers Almanac and Skinny ##### were mentioned twice. One respondent mentioned the bible.
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We are so screwed.

http://agecon.okstate.edu/faculty/publications/4975.pdf

 
My spidey sense tells me it's no good.

On the other hand, we are well on our way to depleting the natural resources of this planet. It can't be helped until half of the human population is replaced by robots. :shrug:

 
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Officer Pete Malloy said:
AhrnCityPahnder said:
I think the problem is that GMOs and Monsanto have become interchangeable when people fear-monger.

GMO aren't inherently a bad thing. I like seedless watermelons.
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:thumbup: I like NDT's take.
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Out of Likes but I :thumbup: that.

I will say that things have gotten a little far afield, the DNA stuff and whatever the hell is being crammed into animals is getting pretty wild, but reacting against science as science is always a bad idea.

 
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