ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I didn't know Dodds & Bloom ran other peoples football teams for them. Interesting.....
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Horrible projections for FBG guys so far (1 Viewer)
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Really? Id expect with that scoring league average for a kicker o be around 35 ppg. In what crazy format is a 51 yd fg and 2 xps worth 12 pts?12 point night from Walsh for me. I'll take it
pantagrapher
Footballguy
This is why they shouldn't post rankings before the games are played. There's your problem.
Rovers
Footballguy
Shawnky
Footballguy
Seriously?Why do you think that?I'd think most that have been around since 03 don't pay for advice from this site.Wrong! Member since 03. From back in the Black eyed Joe days. Pile on folks
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Ya, seriously.....explain.Seriously?Why do you think that?I'd think most that have been around since 03 don't pay for advice from this site.Wrong! Member since 03. From back in the Black eyed Joe days. Pile on folks
butcher boy
Footballguy
Because if you're an 03 you automatically have a wealth of fantasy knowledge like Otis and LHUCKS...
... oh wait.
... oh wait.
sdp1226
Footballguy
Don't feel left out MT, I'm sure he's got you ranked at the bottom of the these guys guys. I wonder if his league is 1 point PPR.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Double points for 50+ yards. Top kickers usually average between 10-13 ppg. Zuerlein is around 16.'Hipple said:Really? Id expect with that scoring league average for a kicker o be around 35 ppg. In what crazy format is a 51 yd fg and 2 xps worth 12 pts?'Cliff Clavin said:12 point night from Walsh for me. I'll take it'solorca said:
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
2 xp = 2 pts10 pts for a 50+ Zeurlein avg 16Something doesn't jibe.Double points for 50+ yards. Top kickers usually average between 10-13 ppg. Zuerlein is around 16.'Hipple said:Really? Id expect with that scoring league average for a kicker o be around 35 ppg. In what crazy format is a 51 yd fg and 2 xps worth 12 pts?'Cliff Clavin said:12 point night from Walsh for me. I'll take it'solorca said:
chris1969
Footballguy
I cleaned up this week thanks to Dodds! He picked Islanders rules as the top whiner by far in my fantasy whiners league. I get triple points when you whine about the kicker.
This is my highest scoring week since I played Denny Green when he said "Dodds is who we thought he was!"
This is my highest scoring week since I played Denny Green when he said "Dodds is who we thought he was!"
I ignore the projections and go right to the "View stats" section of My FBG. They are remarkably accurate. Of course, so is ESPN.com, NFL.com, and other free sites. WHY AM I PAYING FOR THIS!?'pantagrapher said:
Why is nobody mad at Jene? He has yet to tell me exactly what is wrong with all players and exactly when they will return and to what degree. Is medical stuff really that hard!?
Rovers
Footballguy
I don't get why some are bashing the idea of being a subscriber. The content is better than any free site. It's also one stop shopping. The SoS, early targets, and yes, the rankings are excellent. And this year, you got a free $25 for Fan Ball. Subsciber contests, a chance to interact with the writers (get that at a free site) and multiple projections, not just one. Great IDP content. Superior writers.
I've been playing FF since Steve DeBerg was my first draft pick. How is longetivty or experience a factor in paying next to nothing for premium content? And if you say there isn't any insight here that you can get elsewhere for free, you are full of ****.
I've been playing FF since Steve DeBerg was my first draft pick. How is longetivty or experience a factor in paying next to nothing for premium content? And if you say there isn't any insight here that you can get elsewhere for free, you are full of ****.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
2 xp = 2 pts10 pts for a 50+ Zeurlein avg 16Something doesn't jibe.Double points for 50+ yards. Top kickers usually average between 10-13 ppg. Zuerlein is around 16.'Hipple said:Really? Id expect with that scoring league average for a kicker o be around 35 ppg. In what crazy format is a 51 yd fg and 2 xps worth 12 pts?'Cliff Clavin said:12 point night from Walsh for me. I'll take it'solorca said:
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1. 25. Zuerlein, Greg STL PK (R) 112.20 16.029 2. 42. Tucker, Justin BAL PK (R) 98.00 14.0003. 43. Forbath, Kai WAS PK 27.80 13.900 4. 52. Hanson, Jason DET PK 79.00 13.1675. 53. Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK 91.90 13.129Bloom is pretty accurate too! Don't know about Tremblay.
The problem is the guy brought a product that he is apparently unhappy with - he has purchased the right to complain. So let him complain instead of trying to belittle him.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
dollarbill13
Footballguy
What's lost in this thread is that somehow this guy was considering benching Adrian Peterson and Vincent Jackson in all his leagues but was convinced otherwise by FBGG's rankings... I wish I had that kind of depth on my teams.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
What's lost in this thread is you since it's been mentioned 2 or 3 times.
Insein
Footballguy
I don't even... what?
dollarbill13
Footballguy
And you know what the worst part is? I never learned to read!
Insein
Footballguy
Is that true?
Das Boot
Footballguy
Corrected.
mr roboto
Footballguy
He has purchased the right to complain? You must be a customer service employees worst nightmare.
Any time you make a purchase, you have the right to complain if you are unsatisfied.
Insein
Footballguy
Just... let it go man. The guy was a tool and you're defending him.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
So I went back and looked at this weeks projections (average of Dodds, Bloom and Maurile) and compared them to what my team actually scored:
Projection Actual Diff
P Manning 36.2 42.6 -6.4
Ridley 18.7 30.7 -12.0
Pierre 13.1 15.9 -2.8
Marshall 29.7 29.8 -0.1
Megatron 25.1 14.6 +10.5
Bowe 22.7 20.5 +2.2
J Cook 16.4 14.5 -1.9
The ensuing posts asking "what kind of stupid scoring system do you play with" will bury the fact that the Guys were within 10.5 pts of projecting my team's total score.
Keep up the good work, Guys.
Projection Actual Diff
P Manning 36.2 42.6 -6.4
Ridley 18.7 30.7 -12.0
Pierre 13.1 15.9 -2.8
Marshall 29.7 29.8 -0.1
Megatron 25.1 14.6 +10.5
Bowe 22.7 20.5 +2.2
J Cook 16.4 14.5 -1.9
The ensuing posts asking "what kind of stupid scoring system do you play with" will bury the fact that the Guys were within 10.5 pts of projecting my team's total score.
Keep up the good work, Guys.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I think we also have the right to belittle him
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I'm all for complaining when you don't get your money's worth. Really. I've complained about little-- maybe petty-- things if I feel like I was misled or clearly ripped off. It's the principle of the thing.
That being said...if you can't find $28 worth of value in a subscription, I don't know what to say. It's almost too much stuff. Never mind that I got it for free by signing up for a Fanduel account. Let's say I paid retail for it. I'd have a hard time complaining, and some of the projections have really been off. But if you take everything as a whole, it seems like the petty thing is to complain.
Make the subscription $199 and I'm right there with you. But come on. If you're let down in that one area in the first half of this year...look at the exhaustive material you're received to make up for it.
The game summaries by themselves would be enough info to buck the projection and make a different call if that's what you wanted to do.
That being said...if you can't find $28 worth of value in a subscription, I don't know what to say. It's almost too much stuff. Never mind that I got it for free by signing up for a Fanduel account. Let's say I paid retail for it. I'd have a hard time complaining, and some of the projections have really been off. But if you take everything as a whole, it seems like the petty thing is to complain.
Make the subscription $199 and I'm right there with you. But come on. If you're let down in that one area in the first half of this year...look at the exhaustive material you're received to make up for it.
The game summaries by themselves would be enough info to buck the projection and make a different call if that's what you wanted to do.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I completely disagree with posts like this. Most people should blindly follow FBB's rankings without thinking and they would normally be better off.
CalBear
Footballguy
Guess what: $25 doesn't buy you the right to be an idiot in public without being called out for it.
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CalBear
Footballguy
He can complain. We can call him an idiot for complaining about something he shouldn't be complaining about. That's how this works.
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
He is the only one with the freedom to speak his mind?Projections are based on probabilities. Take the projections that you come up with either through a paid service, free service, stolen or otherwise and form a personal opinion (gut instinct) as to which players will exceed, match or fall short...there you have your lineup. Do the number crunching yourself if need be, but trying to do this without the two factors (source of probability and personal opinion...hopefully somewhat successful) will typically end up bad
Just thought I'd add -- I've run analysis on weekly projection accuracy for the last several seasons using a number of experts, and Dodds and Bloom have come out #1 and 2 every year.
If you don't like what they're putting out, then projections shouldn't be a part of your lineup decision-making process, since nobody I've analyzed does it better.
If you don't like what they're putting out, then projections shouldn't be a part of your lineup decision-making process, since nobody I've analyzed does it better.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Just to put a bow on this week, Dodds finished in 16th place on FantasyPros (out of 97 experts that submitted picks). Not a bad "off week" by any reasonable standards. He's still in 4th place for the season which again by any reasonable standards is pretty darned good. I'm not a subscriber but of the things on the list I might want to complain about if I was, Dodds projections would be extremely low on the list.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
This is apparent as our knowledge seems pretty thin. Well worth the money. Luckily I have a lifetime membership, but I had been a subscriber for well 11 seasons prior to that. If you even care about free teams the 1.50 per week of the NFL year is peanuts for what they provide. Especially with the fan duel thing and the 35k contest.There is really more content than one can digest.Look at the fantasy pros rankings. Dip#### threads like these are laughable. It's akin to a thread like thisMIGUEL CABRERRA SUKS. HE got out more than 60% of the time. I can't believe we pay this guy.He fact that it was started at halftime of a thursday night game even makes it more trite and ####tarded.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I think this rises to the level of moral duty. Especially since the guy he was #####ing about broached 20 pts and was top 5 weekend play.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
He could just be an fbg's app user (where you can't access MT's rankings for some inexplicable reason, but grays week 5 only slot is will there)FIX THIS!
pantagrapher
Footballguy
My Week 8 RB rankings. I think you'll find them pretty impressive. Definitely more accurate than FBG rankings.Doug MartinWillis McGaheeTrent RichardsonStevan RidleyLeSean McCoyAdrian PetersonMarshawn LynchMatt ForteDarren McFadden
That was for week seven. I have a feeling that Dodds did even better than that in week eight. I think the results come out on Wednesdays...
