two_dollars
Footballguy
Yeah I hate people who are happy when they win and sad when they lose. Jerks.
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How do you feel about Cutler now? (current info on pg 46) (2 Viewers)
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
20-9 as a starter since the start of the 2010 season. He's a moody ##### and an inconsistent player, but I think the theory that you can't win with him has long been disproved.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Imagine if he had anything other than a terrible Oline.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
140 Qb rating...on the road despite a shiatty OL. Suck it haters....that throw to Hester......not many can complete that on the back foot
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It was good to see him finish the game. It must be the regular season.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
How is the "commitment to excellence" working out for the franchise that gets excited when they win 6 games in a year? Wish the NFL would contract the raiders and their loser baseball stadium + thug fans. Just win 2 games a year baby...It was good to see him finish the game. It must be the regular season.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Awww, man. Now you've gone and hurt my feelings.How is the "commitment to excellence" working out for the franchise that gets excited when they win 6 games in a year? Wish the NFL would contract the raiders and their loser baseball stadium + thug fans. Just win 2 games a year baby...It was good to see him finish the game. It must be the regular season.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
:cheers:Awww, man. Now you've gone and hurt my feelings.How is the "commitment to excellence" working out for the franchise that gets excited when they win 6 games in a year? Wish the NFL would contract the raiders and their loser baseball stadium + thug fans. Just win 2 games a year baby...It was good to see him finish the game. It must be the regular season.
Islanders rule
Footballguy
Bears defense won the game, not whinny butt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Widbil83
Footballguy
You can't sit down for long with Romo out there.
chook
Footballguy
chook
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
The problem is...he thinks he can always complete that off his back foot and will use those terrible mechanics too often (even when he has plenty of room and time to step up and make a better throw). And that gets him in trouble.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
Here in Denver I've never said he couldn't win. He'll win. He could even have a shot at a Super Bowl ring someday if his D is stellar and they surround him with good/great talent.
He'll never lead though. He'll never be able to rally the troops in a big moment. Players will never lay it out for him. Teammates will never feel an obligation to put themselves at risk because they believe in him.
And I'm not saying that's necessary. I am saying it helps. Especially when the team is going through a rough stretch. How does the team leader react? Many times the team's attitude follows suit.
You can win with Cutler. But his horrible attitude balances out his excellent talent. And it puts him a tier below the best QBs in the league. He's such a hot-point because everyone can see the talent and knows he could be so much better if he could put the attitude in check.
He'll never lead though. He'll never be able to rally the troops in a big moment. Players will never lay it out for him. Teammates will never feel an obligation to put themselves at risk because they believe in him.
And I'm not saying that's necessary. I am saying it helps. Especially when the team is going through a rough stretch. How does the team leader react? Many times the team's attitude follows suit.
You can win with Cutler. But his horrible attitude balances out his excellent talent. And it puts him a tier below the best QBs in the league. He's such a hot-point because everyone can see the talent and knows he could be so much better if he could put the attitude in check.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Happy Jay Cutler Day, fellow Bears fans! Just like two years ago, let the haters in the national media hate. Get that kid an extra second or two before the pocket breaks, and LOOK WHAT HE CAN DO!
And if history is any indication, and Tice is still in the weeds on it, the O Line will only improve from here!
Sky's the limit for this team if Lovie keeps them focused.
Daaaaa Bears!!!
And if history is any indication, and Tice is still in the weeds on it, the O Line will only improve from here!
Sky's the limit for this team if Lovie keeps them focused.
Daaaaa Bears!!!
Cutler is 27-18 as a Bear starter: 60%Orton was 21-12 as a Bear starter: 64%So, I'd agree that Cutler is just a lesser version of Orton
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I'm not even sure what he was pissed about there. That was after one of their best drives of the night up to that point that resulted in getting their first points (I think).
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
DoubleG
Footballguy
Yep, Cutler is the first QB ever to walk away from an OC. Maybe he was PO'd and knew he needed a minute to calm down. Notice how nobody is posting video about his giving Webb pats on the back or his post game comments praising the o-line for a job well done. Hater gonna hate...and see only what they want.Agree with this 100%. But am still glad to have a QB with that sort of talent, even if it is often misguided and gets him in trouble often enough. So much better than having a game manager (which you as a Packer fan obviously have not experience ever as far as I can tell...you are blessed in that way). At least the roller coaster ride has some highs.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
What a tool move.
You should visit the AZ/ Kolb threads. Their 4-0 and Kolb loves his struggling Oline personally, but still he is hated. Hi jack over.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
He was posses because the plays were not coming in early enough throughout that drive.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
I mean pissed ... stupid spell check on mobile devices 
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Cutler: 1NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Orton: 0
sho nuff
Footballguy
No doubt...he has the talent.Between the ears is where he is sometimes lacking and it gets him into trouble.Very similar to Favre in the way that he feels he can make any throw no matter what mechanics he uses.
sho nuff
Footballguy
How did Cutler do in that game btw?NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Cutler: 1NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Orton: 0
Mr. Soup Nazi
Footballguy
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
Man, what a polarizing player. I love how this thread gets bumped after every Bears game. Bears lose, and the haters come out of the woodwork to laugh at how awful Cutler is. Bears win, and most Bears fans come out of the woodwork to shove it in the face of the haters.Me, I'm a Bears fan who doesn't like his attitude, but loves his arm and the fact that he can make all the throws. I'm 38 years old, and these are the QBs that the Bears have had in my lifetime:
Is he a doosher? Totally. Would I rather have him than any QB listed above (except maybe Jim McMahon, for sentimental reasons? All day, every day.
two_dollars
Footballguy
He played 35 minutes more than Orton.How did Cutler do in that game btw?NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Cutler: 1NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Orton: 0
sho nuff
Footballguy
Was just a little jab...of course...Grossman also played in a SB...should we claim he is better than Cutler?He played 35 minutes more than Orton.How did Cutler do in that game btw?NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Cutler: 1NFCCG appearances by the Bears with Orton: 0
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Loved that Henry Burris. He LIT UP Memorial Stadium with the best running the Bears have ever seen in a QB that one game. I was there, and it was spectacular.Unfortunately, his arm seemed to be locked into throwing the ball 5 yards in front of him in the dirt. Damn thing couldn't put the ball anywhere else it seems. But the guy would have made a hell of a running back. lol
BroadwayG
Footballguy
So you're saying he's about as good a QB as trent dilfre?
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
He's not even the most hated QB in the NFL currently. That goes to Phillip Rivers.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I played HS ball with George. Cutler reminds me a LOT of him. Jeff has come around since being out of football, so I can't put him on my hated list. Plus, he won us a couple of State Championships.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Says a lot about you
Dought Man
Footballguy
Cutler isn't an average guy or a terrible football player, but he is an average football player and terrible guy.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Thanks!
Hoss Style
Footballguy
Nope. Never said that. I'd take Cutler over Dilfer in most situations. But that was a different team in a somewhat different league. Dilfer was good for his team for that year. Fit in perfect.But since you want to make the Dilfer/Cutler comparison - If the Bears D plays stellar and the talent around Cutler is at least good (I think it is) then Cutler should lead them to a Super Bowl, right?A silly comparison, which I didn't initially make, but there it is.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Your definition of terrible is different that mine.As a football player he has above average tools - his arm may be one of the best in the league. Sometimes his decision making is poor and/or he gets sloppy with his mechanics.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Why is he a terrible guy? He is quiet, he gets crap. He is emotional, he gets crap. He walks away, he gets crap. He and Tice were heated over not converting a 3rd and 1. Tice said we need to get that, Cutler said I know, got up to cool off, and what they didn't show was Cutler going back 10 sec later and the 2 of them talking it out. But the media takes a 5 second clip and blows it up to sell papers, get hits, and boost ratings. People gave already made up their mind about Jay, and nothing will change that. Not even all his work with charity that he TRIES to keep private.
BaBastage
Footballguy
Excellent synopsis, and I agree. He may have talent, but his immaturity hurts his team when they need him be the leader.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
By Brad Biggs, Tribune reporter
12:07 p.m. CDT, October 3, 2012
Mike Tice joked Wednesday that he wishes ESPN’s cameras would have captured Jay Cutler smacking him on the rear end at the end of the Chicago Bears’ blowout victory Monday night, not brushing him off on the sideline in the second quarter after a failed third-down play.
But the offensive coordinator said all is good between him and the quarterback, who seemingly always has something to explain after prime-time games. There was the J’Marcus Webb incident in Week 2 on NFL Network in Green Bay and last October in a NBC Sunday night game Cutler sent a profane message in the direction of ex-offensive coordinator Mike Martz.
Tice said that he was upset the offense had not converted a third-and-1 run in which running back Michael Bush was stopped for no gain.
“He probably had enough of me telling him why the play didn’t work,” Tice said Wednesday morning at Halas Hall. “I get enough of me sometimes, too. I can talk a little bit. The heat of the battle, it’s tough. A lot of things happen on the sideline, lot of things happen in the course of the game. I was really angry about the fact that we didn’t make that third-and-1. I was in his ear all the way from the time he came off the field to the time he went over and put his helmet down. And, you know, at a certain point probably enough is enough.”
Tice clarified that he was not upset with Cutler on the play.
“I wasn’t angry at him,” Tice said. “I was venting to why the play didn’t work and probably at a certain point, 'OK, OK.' We move on and he had a great game. I am pleased with his performance. He had a couple of really nice checks for us. So, he’s doing the things we are asking him to do. He is understanding the things that I would like to see him do as far as managing the line of scrimmage so I am very pleased with his game.”
Cutler had his finest game of the season in the victory, completing 18 of 24 passes for 275 yards and two touchdowns. The offense was truly in rhythm for the first time.
“Jay and I are good,” Tice said. “I really admire his play the other night. I really admire how he has prepared himself right now. I really admire how he has bought in. It’s an emotional game and sometimes I am sure we all wish we would handle some things differently and I am not to say he should have handled that differently.
“But it’s an emotional game and Jay and I are fine. I wish they would have got the clip at the end of the game when he smacked me on the rear end. They didn’t show that one. And I smacked him back. But they didn’t show that one. They showed the other one.”
Chances are cameras will continue to follow Cutler.
12:07 p.m. CDT, October 3, 2012
Mike Tice joked Wednesday that he wishes ESPN’s cameras would have captured Jay Cutler smacking him on the rear end at the end of the Chicago Bears’ blowout victory Monday night, not brushing him off on the sideline in the second quarter after a failed third-down play.
But the offensive coordinator said all is good between him and the quarterback, who seemingly always has something to explain after prime-time games. There was the J’Marcus Webb incident in Week 2 on NFL Network in Green Bay and last October in a NBC Sunday night game Cutler sent a profane message in the direction of ex-offensive coordinator Mike Martz.
Tice said that he was upset the offense had not converted a third-and-1 run in which running back Michael Bush was stopped for no gain.
“He probably had enough of me telling him why the play didn’t work,” Tice said Wednesday morning at Halas Hall. “I get enough of me sometimes, too. I can talk a little bit. The heat of the battle, it’s tough. A lot of things happen on the sideline, lot of things happen in the course of the game. I was really angry about the fact that we didn’t make that third-and-1. I was in his ear all the way from the time he came off the field to the time he went over and put his helmet down. And, you know, at a certain point probably enough is enough.”
Tice clarified that he was not upset with Cutler on the play.
“I wasn’t angry at him,” Tice said. “I was venting to why the play didn’t work and probably at a certain point, 'OK, OK.' We move on and he had a great game. I am pleased with his performance. He had a couple of really nice checks for us. So, he’s doing the things we are asking him to do. He is understanding the things that I would like to see him do as far as managing the line of scrimmage so I am very pleased with his game.”
Cutler had his finest game of the season in the victory, completing 18 of 24 passes for 275 yards and two touchdowns. The offense was truly in rhythm for the first time.
“Jay and I are good,” Tice said. “I really admire his play the other night. I really admire how he has prepared himself right now. I really admire how he has bought in. It’s an emotional game and sometimes I am sure we all wish we would handle some things differently and I am not to say he should have handled that differently.
“But it’s an emotional game and Jay and I are fine. I wish they would have got the clip at the end of the game when he smacked me on the rear end. They didn’t show that one. And I smacked him back. But they didn’t show that one. They showed the other one.”
Chances are cameras will continue to follow Cutler.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Dilfer did not fit perfect. Je just got lucky to be at the right place at the right time....
flapgreen
Footballguy
Thanks for setting our minds at ease.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
I'll take the players' word and the coaches' as well over yours. Just my preference.What's that have to do with Cutler leading his team, anyway? Start another thread if you want to argue Dilfer's role on that Super Bowl team.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Almost 300 yards 2 TDs on the road on a short week....keep hating
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