How do you feel about Cutler now? (current info on pg 46) (3 Viewers)

[flapgreen]

If there was a year to pick up Cutler, it's this year. He's got weapons, an offensive line, and a coach who has coached some of the great QBs of this era. Cutler is emerging as a top QB, something most people thought he was incapable of, due to his past failures. If he continues along his current path, he will become a top 10 guy, easily. He's got the talent. Now he has the pieces around him to succeed.

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Starting him over Brady this week without thinking twice

 

[sho nuff]

Starting him over Cam the rest of the season the way this is going.

 

[Statcruncher]

Starting him over Cam the rest of the season the way this is going.

The thought of you pulling for Cutler warms my heart.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

If there was a year to pick up Cutler, it's this year. He's got weapons, an offensive line, and a coach who has coached some of the great QBs of this era. Cutler is emerging as a top QB, something most people thought he was incapable of, due to his past failures. If he continues along his current path, he will become a top 10 guy, easily. He's got the talent. Now he has the pieces around him to succeed.

I'm not so sure his line is all that much better.

it's somewhat better, but I think the biggest difference is simply the coaching and playcalling.

but, I agree with the larger point -- I actually drafted him in one league as my 2nd qb, and I hate him.

 

[TartanLion]

As a Lions fans it saddens me to have to start him over Stafford this week, but I just can't see the Giants stopping Cutler from throwing a few TD's and Lions away to Browns is a game where anything could happen including a low scoring affair ( CLE good d-line, Megatron fitness unknown ).

 

[Max Power]

Starting him over Brady this week without thinking twice

I was not considering it until just today, but now I think its the right move. I was checking out the NYG depth chart and they are down to a third string CB on the left side. That same CB only played one snap last week due to a lingering knee issue. Outside of Amukamara, the Giants have nothing at CB. Safeties have to respect Bennett and Forte, so I think Alshon and Earl bennett are going to be huge tonight.

On the flip side, Eli should have a good day passing and Cutler will need to chuck it to keep pace.

 

[Kleck]

Starting him over Brady this week without thinking twice

I was not considering it until just today, but now I think its the right move. I was checking out the NYG depth chart and they are down to a third string CB on the left side. That same CB only played one snap last week due to a lingering knee issue. Outside of Amukamara, the Giants have nothing at CB. Safeties have to respect Bennett and Forte, so I think Alshon and Earl bennett are going to be huge tonight.

On the flip side, Eli should have a good day passing and Cutler will need to chuck it to keep pace.

Same here. Cutler vs. Brady. Have Cutler in now if Bennett plays (who I will also start).

 

[flapgreen]

His entire countenance looks different, even in interviews.

 

[flapgreen]

If there was a year to pick up Cutler, it's this year. He's got weapons, an offensive line, and a coach who has coached some of the great QBs of this era. Cutler is emerging as a top QB, something most people thought he was incapable of, due to his past failures. If he continues along his current path, he will become a top 10 guy, easily. He's got the talent. Now he has the pieces around him to succeed.

I'm not so sure his line is all that much better.

it's somewhat better, but I think the biggest difference is simply the coaching and playcalling.

but, I agree with the larger point -- I actually drafted him in one league as my 2nd qb, and I hate him.

The OL is infinitely better, but good coaching and playcalling is drastically better as well.

 

[ryno1980]

Read some good stuff about he and Trestman's relationship as well as how high on Martellus Bennett he was during training camp, drafted him as my QB1 in the 9th round on one team and stacked the other positions. (I'm sure you all care about my team tremendously). He's a top 12ish QB and will continue to be.

 

[Run It Up]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

 

[flapgreen]

Read some good stuff about he and Trestman's relationship as well as how high on Martellus Bennett he was during training camp, drafted him as my QB1 in the 9th round on one team and stacked the other positions. (I'm sure you all care about my team tremendously). He's a top 12ish QB and will continue to be.

Appears to be a good call on your part. I'm a Bears fan but wouldnever have drafted him as my QB1, although he has become that on 2 of my teams.

 

[flapgreen]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

 

[Ghost Rider]

I wouldn't say he has become smarter, but he seems less prone to making those bonehead throws that used to make you think, "What was he thinking?" Granted, he still has moments like that (see: the first three quarters of last week's game), but they seem a lot less frequent.

 

[flapgreen]

I wouldn't say he has become smarter, but he seems less prone to making those bonehead throws that used to make you think, "What was he thinking?" Granted, he still has moments like that (see: the first three quarters of last week's game), but they seem a lot less frequent.

I meant smarter as in how he is carrying himself.

 

[Run It Up]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I think a lot of the guff he got for his mannerism was bull. You don't go out and lead your team to a 60% win percentage while tallying up 148 sacks over 4 years without looking salty. Jay has always been a stand up guy he just doesn't act the way the media wants him to, and for that I say good for him.

 

[flapgreen]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I think a lot of the guff he got for his mannerism was bull. You don't go out and lead your team to a 60% win percentage while tallying up 148 sacks over 4 years without looking salty. Jay has always been a stand up guy he just doesn't act the way the media wants him to, and for that I say good for him.

Oh I agree. He caught a lot of #### when it wasn't all his fault. I'm not knocking him. I'm just saying he has a little more self-awareness now and probably realizes he can carry himself in a different manner without conforming to what everyone thinks he should be. Just my opinion

 

[DoubleG]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I think a lot of the guff he got for his mannerism was bull. You don't go out and lead your team to a 60% win percentage while tallying up 148 sacks over 4 years without looking salty. Jay has always been a stand up guy he just doesn't act the way the media wants him to, and for that I say good for him.

Now in this thread, i agree with you 100%.

 

[Sweetness_34]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

 

[werdnoynek]

Less frowns = more fantasy points.

 

[Tau837]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Elite? That's a stretch. He's no Philip Rivers.

 

[sho nuff]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Always enjoy a good rant from Sweetness...were you saying the same thing about how elite he was last week?

He is having a nice year...but predictable of you to chime in with the elite talk after he squeaks by a Giants team that can't seem to beat anyone this year.

 

[Sweetness_34]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Always enjoy a good rant from Sweetness...were you saying the same thing about how elite he was last week?

He is having a nice year...but predictable of you to chime in with the elite talk after he squeaks by a Giants team that can't seem to beat anyone this year.

He played pretty well last week...350? yards and 2 TDs? Sure there were some turn overs but this is a young offense not even half a season into it. And they were up against a pretty good DL on the road. This same D shut down your packers to FGs despite the packers playing at home. At least Cutler does not have players on his own team calling him out for having no leadership skills....See Donald Driver, Jennings, Finley etc.

 

[Spin]

That 50yd back shoulder throw to Marshall is not something many guys in the league can do, maybe no one. The guy finally has a coach who knows offense.

That throw + the TD throw to Bennett were both a thing of beauty.

Still mad at Bud Adams for choosing Vince Young over Cutler. Why not choose the local kid?

I live in Nashville. So is everyone else...

Just out of curiosity, do you watch the games at Beyond the Edge? I stumbled in there a few Sundays ago and Bears fans EVERYWHERE. Great beer selection and 2 for 1s on Sundays/Thursday nights.

 

[twistd]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

I would also say that the offensive scheme is a huge contributor too. They are using these weapons well. The line is playing better, but that is helped because they are making a lot of quick throws. Cutler is getting the ball out of his hands so quickly that the d-line doesn't have time to get to him. Cutler is throwing from a clean pocket. That is a function of both the improved offensive line and the playcalling. What has impressed me is that Trestman is utilizing the TE. In the past he didn't. It shows signs of a really good coach who can adjust his approach to the personnel. Huge change over, shall we say Mike Martz. I think Trestman is putting Cutler in the best situation to be successful. And Cutler looks as good as he has ever looked.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Read some good stuff about he and Trestman's relationship as well as how high on Martellus Bennett he was during training camp, drafted him as my QB1 in the 9th round on one team and stacked the other positions. (I'm sure you all care about my team tremendously). He's a top 12ish QB and will continue to be.

Appears to be a good call on your part. I'm a Bears fan but wouldnever have drafted him as my QB1, although he has become that on 2 of my teams.

Bears fan here as well and is a backup in both leagues, but did start him this week over Stafford in one league due to matchup. I think he has become a low end QB 1 to play matchup against. Next week is another week I may consider starting him over Stafford with Chi @ WAS and Detroit is home vs CIN

 

[doyler]

I couldn't be happier to have replaced Kaep with Cutler (and sort of Luck in a QBBC if I see a matchup I like more)

 

[flapgreen]

That 50yd back shoulder throw to Marshall is not something many guys in the league can do, maybe no one. The guy finally has a coach who knows offense.

That throw + the TD throw to Bennett were both a thing of beauty.

Still mad at Bud Adams for choosing Vince Young over Cutler. Why not choose the local kid?

I live in Nashville. So is everyone else...

Just out of curiosity, do you watch the games at Beyond the Edge? I stumbled in there a few Sundays ago and Bears fans EVERYWHERE. Great beer selection and 2 for 1s on Sundays/Thursday nights.

No, I don't ever hang out in East Nashville.

 

[Hoss Style]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).

I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

 

[Spin]

That 50yd back shoulder throw to Marshall is not something many guys in the league can do, maybe no one. The guy finally has a coach who knows offense.

That throw + the TD throw to Bennett were both a thing of beauty.

Still mad at Bud Adams for choosing Vince Young over Cutler. Why not choose the local kid?

I live in Nashville. So is everyone else...

Just out of curiosity, do you watch the games at Beyond the Edge? I stumbled in there a few Sundays ago and Bears fans EVERYWHERE. Great beer selection and 2 for 1s on Sundays/Thursday nights.

No, I don't ever hang out in East Nashville.

If you're ever on this side of town, you should check it out, the atmosphere is terrific. I'm not even a Bear's fan but found myself caught up with the ups and downs of the Bear's game.

Back to Cutler. I thought he looked terrific last night. That pass to Jeffery was placed perfectly, too bad he got tripped up, I think he takes that for six. I still think Cutler must have the one of the strongest arms in the NFL. That pass to Marshall that was high and inside, where the defender was infront of him was a thing of beauty. Marshall was completely covered for about 95% of the qbs in this league. Can't think of many others who can put that ball on a rope like that just out of reach of the defender. Would have loved to see a camera shot from behind Cutler on that pass.

 

[flapgreen]

That 50yd back shoulder throw to Marshall is not something many guys in the league can do, maybe no one. The guy finally has a coach who knows offense.

That throw + the TD throw to Bennett were both a thing of beauty.

Still mad at Bud Adams for choosing Vince Young over Cutler. Why not choose the local kid?

I live in Nashville. So is everyone else...

Just out of curiosity, do you watch the games at Beyond the Edge? I stumbled in there a few Sundays ago and Bears fans EVERYWHERE. Great beer selection and 2 for 1s on Sundays/Thursday nights.

No, I don't ever hang out in East Nashville.

If you're ever on this side of town, you should check it out, the atmosphere is terrific. I'm not even a Bear's fan but found myself caught up with the ups and downs of the Bear's game.

Back to Cutler. I thought he looked terrific last night. That pass to Jeffery was placed perfectly, too bad he got tripped up, I think he takes that for six. I still think Cutler must have the one of the strongest arms in the NFL. That pass to Marshall that was high and inside, where the defender was infront of him was a thing of beauty. Marshall was completely covered for about 95% of the qbs in this league. Can't think of many others who can put that ball on a rope like that just out of reach of the defender. Would have loved to see a camera shot from behind Cutler on that pass.

Will keep it in mind. They have been improving the East side over the last few years. That area used to be awful.Without question, he has the strongest arm in the league. He threw a ball away down the left sideline last night that looked like it went 50 yards and he basically flicked it.

 

[sho nuff]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Always enjoy a good rant from Sweetness...were you saying the same thing about how elite he was last week?

He is having a nice year...but predictable of you to chime in with the elite talk after he squeaks by a Giants team that can't seem to beat anyone this year.

He played pretty well last week...350? yards and 2 TDs? Sure there were some turn overs but this is a young offense not even half a season into it. And they were up against a pretty good DL on the road. This same D shut down your packers to FGs despite the packers playing at home. At least Cutler does not have players on his own team calling him out for having no leadership skills....See Donald Driver, Jennings, Finley etc.

Sure...there were some turnovers...yeah...lets gloss over how the game actually went and when his numbers came.

Keep trying.

This same D did what this year? Oh wait...nothing.

But hey...go try to project the Packers into this one...then try taking what they said and equating it to no leadership all you want.

Maybe you should fire up another Ted Thompson and McCarthy Dumb and Dumber thread that you ran away from.

Or maybe you should stick to one topic at a time.

Cutler can put up good numbers...he is my QB going forward in fantasy.

But a few good games so far this year nice and all...but that bad Jay is still in there if he sees pressure. So far, so good with the OL limiting that.

 

[Sweetness_34]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

I would also say that the offensive scheme is a huge contributor too. They are using these weapons well. The line is playing better, but that is helped because they are making a lot of quick throws. Cutler is getting the ball out of his hands so quickly that the d-line doesn't have time to get to him. Cutler is throwing from a clean pocket. That is a function of both the improved offensive line and the playcalling. What has impressed me is that Trestman is utilizing the TE. In the past he didn't. It shows signs of a really good coach who can adjust his approach to the personnel. Huge change over, shall we say Mike Martz. I think Trestman is putting Cutler in the best situation to be successful. And Cutler looks as good as he has ever looked.

Trestman said from day one that he wants to use the TE. he used them well in CFL

 

[Sweetness_34]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Always enjoy a good rant from Sweetness...were you saying the same thing about how elite he was last week?

He is having a nice year...but predictable of you to chime in with the elite talk after he squeaks by a Giants team that can't seem to beat anyone this year.

He played pretty well last week...350? yards and 2 TDs? Sure there were some turn overs but this is a young offense not even half a season into it. And they were up against a pretty good DL on the road. This same D shut down your packers to FGs despite the packers playing at home. At least Cutler does not have players on his own team calling him out for having no leadership skills....See Donald Driver, Jennings, Finley etc.

Sure...there were some turnovers...yeah...lets gloss over how the game actually went and when his numbers came.

Keep trying.

This same D did what this year? Oh wait...nothing.

But hey...go try to project the Packers into this one...then try taking what they said and equating it to no leadership all you want.

Maybe you should fire up another Ted Thompson and McCarthy Dumb and Dumber thread that you ran away from.

Or maybe you should stick to one topic at a time.

Cutler can put up good numbers...he is my QB going forward in fantasy.

But a few good games so far this year nice and all...but that bad Jay is still in there if he sees pressure. So far, so good with the OL limiting that.

Lol.... No QB likes or makes good throws under pressure. You are indeed as dumb as others see you here as. Cutler has evaded pressure and scrambled for 1st down multiple times.

 

[Run It Up]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).

I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

 

[flapgreen]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

 

[sho nuff]

The OL is so much better. I recorded the game so I stopped and watched the protection every time the Giants blitzed....very rarely they made Cutler uncomfortable. Cutler finally has a TE, 2 real NFL WRs (not Johny Knox and Hester) and an OL and it shows that he is a elite Qb in this league. All you haters can go skrew yourselves. Brady and Manning has had great OL and weapons for years....

Always enjoy a good rant from Sweetness...were you saying the same thing about how elite he was last week?

He is having a nice year...but predictable of you to chime in with the elite talk after he squeaks by a Giants team that can't seem to beat anyone this year.

He played pretty well last week...350? yards and 2 TDs? Sure there were some turn overs but this is a young offense not even half a season into it. And they were up against a pretty good DL on the road. This same D shut down your packers to FGs despite the packers playing at home. At least Cutler does not have players on his own team calling him out for having no leadership skills....See Donald Driver, Jennings, Finley etc.

Sure...there were some turnovers...yeah...lets gloss over how the game actually went and when his numbers came.

Keep trying.

This same D did what this year? Oh wait...nothing.

But hey...go try to project the Packers into this one...then try taking what they said and equating it to no leadership all you want.

Maybe you should fire up another Ted Thompson and McCarthy Dumb and Dumber thread that you ran away from.

Or maybe you should stick to one topic at a time.

Cutler can put up good numbers...he is my QB going forward in fantasy.

But a few good games so far this year nice and all...but that bad Jay is still in there if he sees pressure. So far, so good with the OL limiting that.

Lol.... No QB likes or makes good throws under pressure. You are indeed as dumb as others see you here as. Cutler has evaded pressure and scrambled for 1st down multiple times.

Ahh...going for the dumb comment.

You might want to look up the numbers of some QBs when they get blitzed and under pressure. Specifically one you like to bag on in Rodgers.

 

[Run It Up]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

It means that when a person picks himself off the ground for the 40th time that season and has the same disgusted face and the next day the same people voice their same dumb opinions about his mannerisms and then months later those same people are no longer commenting on those mannerisms by virtue of them simply not happening means that your perception of him has changed, not the person himself.

Cutler has had no reason to be RIGHTFULLY disappointed in his own organization this season and thus has not appeared disappointed. Fairweather observers have noticed this.

 

[Hoss Style]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

It means that when a person picks himself off the ground for the 40th time that season and has the same disgusted face and the next day the same people voice their same dumb opinions about his mannerisms and then months later those same people are no longer commenting on those mannerisms by virtue of them simply not happening means that your perception of him has changed, not the person himself.

Cutler has had no reason to be RIGHTFULLY disappointed in his own organization this season and thus has not appeared disappointed. Fairweather observers have noticed this.

No offense, Run It Up, but you don't know where I'm coming from on this. First, I said that i agreed with Flap when he said it "seems" he's changed. I don't actually know.

What I do know is that here in Denver his behavior oftentimes was immature. He got kicked out of multiple country clubs for simple rules that he refused to comply with. He was oftentimes rude and pompous. It was a common thing to hear "Jay got kicked out again yesterday from [whatever club, bar, etc].

To me it "seems" he might of changed. Maybe matured. I'm not sure, but unless you live here in Denver or were following the Broncos closely and/or frequented places that he did as well, I'm not sure how you can definitively say someone else's opinion of him is dumb.

Maybe you're just talking about his play on the field, not his overall demeanor? Maybe I'd agree with you then, but even with that it seems he handles a loss a bit better then he did in his early years.

 

[Run It Up]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

It means that when a person picks himself off the ground for the 40th time that season and has the same disgusted face and the next day the same people voice their same dumb opinions about his mannerisms and then months later those same people are no longer commenting on those mannerisms by virtue of them simply not happening means that your perception of him has changed, not the person himself.

Cutler has had no reason to be RIGHTFULLY disappointed in his own organization this season and thus has not appeared disappointed. Fairweather observers have noticed this.

No offense, Run It Up, but you don't know where I'm coming from on this. First, I said that i agreed with Flap when he said it "seems" he's changed. I don't actually know.

What I do know is that here in Denver his behavior oftentimes was immature. He got kicked out of multiple country clubs for simple rules that he refused to comply with. He was oftentimes rude and pompous. It was a common thing to hear "Jay got kicked out again yesterday from [whatever club, bar, etc].

To me it "seems" he might of changed. Maybe matured. I'm not sure, but unless you live here in Denver or were following the Broncos closely and/or frequented places that he did as well, I'm not sure how you can definitively say someone else's opinion of him is dumb.

Maybe you're just talking about his play on the field, not his overall demeanor? Maybe I'd agree with you then, but even with that it seems he handles a loss a bit better then he did in his early years.

I can definitively say that anyone that came out while Cutler played with the Bears and commented on his mannerisms (comments which are well documented in this thread, aswell as all over this board and even in the Chicago Tribune) whether it be his facial expressions, his complete indifference with the media, yelling at his oline, playing through injury or what have you - as if they were in some way a reflection on his level of maturity were all dumb.

People call him arrogant and selfish, based purely on their already dumb preconceived notions.

Cutler has been one of the most heavily criticized QBs in the NFL and most of it is unwarranted and almost all of it has nothing to do with football.

 

[ryno1980]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

It means that when a person picks himself off the ground for the 40th time that season and has the same disgusted face and the next day the same people voice their same dumb opinions about his mannerisms and then months later those same people are no longer commenting on those mannerisms by virtue of them simply not happening means that your perception of him has changed, not the person himself.Cutler has had no reason to be RIGHTFULLY disappointed in his own organization this season and thus has not appeared disappointed. Fairweather observers have noticed this.

No offense, Run It Up, but you don't know where I'm coming from on this. First, I said that i agreed with Flap when he said it "seems" he's changed. I don't actually know.What I do know is that here in Denver his behavior oftentimes was immature. He got kicked out of multiple country clubs for simple rules that he refused to comply with. He was oftentimes rude and pompous. It was a common thing to hear "Jay got kicked out again yesterday from [whatever club, bar, etc].

To me it "seems" he might of changed. Maybe matured. I'm not sure, but unless you live here in Denver or were following the Broncos closely and/or frequented places that he did as well, I'm not sure how you can definitively say someone else's opinion of him is dumb.

Maybe you're just talking about his play on the field, not his overall demeanor? Maybe I'd agree with you then, but even with that it seems he handles a loss a bit better then he did in his early years.

I can definitively say that anyone that came out while Cutler played with the Bears and commented on his mannerisms (comments which are well documented in this thread, aswell as all over this board and even in the Chicago Tribune) whether it be his facial expressions, his complete indifference with the media, yelling at his oline, playing through injury or what have you - as if they were in some way a reflection on his level of maturity were all dumb.People call him arrogant and selfish, based purely on their already dumb preconceived notions.

Cutler has been one of the most heavily criticized QBs in the NFL and most of it is unwarranted and almost all of it has nothing to do with football.

I agree with a lot of this but i will also say he has clearly grown as a person and qb because of the adversity he has faced.

Every quarterback in the nfl could be accused of arrogance at some point. It takes a lot of mental toughness to play that position. I think it's obvious cutler has improved in that area. Brandon Marshall said after the game he's night and day with cutler this year.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

I don't miss Devin Hester running the wrong way or falling down on his "routes" at all.

The O-line still isn't great, but I think they're all trying hard and seem to care, and Jay respects that. The scheme and the playcalling are hiding some of the shortcomings along the line.

Kyle Long could really turn into something out there: He's a lot sturdier, tougher and thicker than I expected him to be from the college tape. Jordan Mills could turn into a nice, journeyman player. Bushrod is an average left tackle and Slauson is middle of the road....But average and middle of he road are so much better than what the Bears had there last year. The Bears last year had four guys out there who had no business seeing an NFL field. Garza is a palooka who should be replaced this offseason with a more modern, more physical center.

As the middle of Chicago's defensive front seven continues to erode, I can see the Bears being under increasing pressure to score 30+ points a game to stay in games, and Jay's attempts numbers spiking in the last half of the year. We'll see.

 

[camcreslin]

The Bears have averaged more than 30 points a game this season...I agree the defense is at best questionable but I think the offense while far from perfect has looked pretty good. I don't think we can wait and see because of points scored when your argument is the bears need to keep scoring what they have been scoring so far.

I don't miss Devin Hester running the wrong way or falling down on his "routes" at all.

The O-line still isn't great, but I think they're all trying hard and seem to care, and Jay respects that. The scheme and the playcalling are hiding some of the shortcomings along the line.

Kyle Long could really turn into something out there: He's a lot sturdier, tougher and thicker than I expected him to be from the college tape. Jordan Mills could turn into a nice, journeyman player. Bushrod is an average left tackle and Slauson is middle of the road....But average and middle of he road are so much better than what the Bears had there last year. The Bears last year had four guys out there who had no business seeing an NFL field. Garza is a palooka who should be replaced this offseason with a more modern, more physical center.

As the middle of Chicago's defensive front seven continues to erode, I can see the Bears being under increasing pressure to score 30+ points a game to stay in games, and Jay's attempts numbers spiking in the last half of the year. We'll see.

Edit: I agree Hester not being a garbage receiver helps a lot and the playcalling is still a bit on the predictable side but still far better than any Bear has seen in years.

 

[Hoss Style]

I'm so glad the Bears finally have a line that can stop more than one person. More than one WR who can catch. An athletic playmaker at TE. An elite pass catching back.

The #### Cutler had to put up with for the first half of his career has been ridiculous.

He brought most of it on himself with his aloof personality, but he seems to have matured and become an all-around smarter guy. Good for him

I'd agree with this. He had many interactions here in Denver that were less than favorable. Maybe he's just matured? Maybe he's more comfortable in his own skin now? (He's married, settled down?).I was never a fan of Cutler, but would never say a person can't change. He's always had the skills, but maybe the intangibles are there now too? I hope he succeeds in Chicago. Lord knows he paid his penance the last few years with the OLine he's had.

He hasn't changed his behavior at all. The only thing that has changed is your perception of him.

What does that mean? Even Marshall was talking about how different he is now.

It means that when a person picks himself off the ground for the 40th time that season and has the same disgusted face and the next day the same people voice their same dumb opinions about his mannerisms and then months later those same people are no longer commenting on those mannerisms by virtue of them simply not happening means that your perception of him has changed, not the person himself.

Cutler has had no reason to be RIGHTFULLY disappointed in his own organization this season and thus has not appeared disappointed. Fairweather observers have noticed this.

No offense, Run It Up, but you don't know where I'm coming from on this. First, I said that i agreed with Flap when he said it "seems" he's changed. I don't actually know.

What I do know is that here in Denver his behavior oftentimes was immature. He got kicked out of multiple country clubs for simple rules that he refused to comply with. He was oftentimes rude and pompous. It was a common thing to hear "Jay got kicked out again yesterday from [whatever club, bar, etc].

To me it "seems" he might of changed. Maybe matured. I'm not sure, but unless you live here in Denver or were following the Broncos closely and/or frequented places that he did as well, I'm not sure how you can definitively say someone else's opinion of him is dumb.

Maybe you're just talking about his play on the field, not his overall demeanor? Maybe I'd agree with you then, but even with that it seems he handles a loss a bit better then he did in his early years.

I can definitively say that anyone that came out while Cutler played with the Bears and commented on his mannerisms (comments which are well documented in this thread, aswell as all over this board and even in the Chicago Tribune) whether it be his facial expressions, his complete indifference with the media, yelling at his oline, playing through injury or what have you - as if they were in some way a reflection on his level of maturity were all dumb.

People call him arrogant and selfish, based purely on their already dumb preconceived notions.

Cutler has been one of the most heavily criticized QBs in the NFL and most of it is unwarranted and almost all of it has nothing to do with football.

I see I misunderstood where you were coming from. Fair enough. I am coming from a strictly Denver perspective. I haven't followed him as closely in Chicago.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jay Cutler has completed 64 of his last 89 throws (71.9 percent) for 759 yards (8.53 YPA) with a 6:0 TD-to-INT ratio and two successful two-point conversions.
It's a two-plus-game stretch. Even better, Cutler gets to tee off on the Redskins' defense in Week 7. Although there have been a handful of bumps along the way, Cutler is playing noticeably more controlled, efficient football in first-year coach Marc Trestman's offense, which currently ranks third in the NFL in points scored and 11th in yards. Read more stats and observations like this in Evan Silva's Week 7 Matchups column, accessible at the link below.

Source: Silva's Week 7 Matchups

 

[Eminence]

He's got a cannon and time in the pocket to throw this year. A pleasant surprise as a Bears homer. Wouldn't touch him for Fantasy purpose though.

 

[Faust]

He's got a cannon and time in the pocket to throw this year. A pleasant surprise as a Bears homer. Wouldn't touch him for Fantasy purpose though.

His schedule of opponents in week 9, 12-14, and week 16 & 17 are enticing.

 

[flapgreen]

He's got a cannon and time in the pocket to throw this year. A pleasant surprise as a Bears homer. Wouldn't touch him for Fantasy purpose though.

Why not? He's having a very good fantasy season.

 

[machineo]

He's got a cannon and time in the pocket to throw this year. A pleasant surprise as a Bears homer. Wouldn't touch him for Fantasy purpose though.

Why not? He's having a very good fantasy season.

If I had to guess, it's the knack of bad Jay Cutler showing up at the worst possible time. At least, he's shown viability even in those bad games and racked up garbage/catchup points.