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how do you feel Ronnie Brown? (1 Viewer)

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Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?

 
Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
I traded Ronnie earlier in the year but just cause I was getting Henry. I like Brown this year and I think the signing of Green is going to help him out alot. It gives the Dolphins alittle bit of stability and credibility behind center. Brown can do it all catch, run, block and get td carries. I don't know if the offense is good enough yet to put Ronnie in the top ten.....oline is still questionable..... but he should definetly be a 2nd round pick and if you want him #14 sounds about right to me.
 
Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
 
Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
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Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
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Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
STOP IT.If anything these "tweener" player picks deserve more attention. IMO, you just cant get enough dialog going about R Brown, Maroney, Fast Willie, Portis, etc. These are the players that will make or break teams this year. Keep it going. Thats what we're here for.
 
I am cautiously optimistic about his chances this year. Everyone points to the line being a reason why he'll have troubles this year, but the line was just as bad last year and he performed OK on a PPG basis.

Green has made a living dumping to the TE and RB over the last few years. In addition this was a big part of Cameron's game in SD. The chance is there to be more involved in the passing game for a slight uptick in his stats this year, moreso in a PPR league.

 
Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
STOP IT.If anything these "tweener" player picks deserve more attention. IMO, you just cant get enough dialog going about R Brown, Maroney, Fast Willie, Portis, etc. These are the players that will make or break teams this year. Keep it going. Thats what we're here for.
:thumbdown: Rather read another Ronnie Brown thread than "Steve Bartkowski to Atlanta...."
 
with a 4.3 career avg in the NFL, I give R.Brown props.

Green is much better than Culpepper was, and clearly better than Harrington.

I think the new HC , Cam Cameron , will find ways to use R. Brown much like LT , i.e., LOTS of passes to the running back..

Brees did ok his first couple of years in SD, but nothing special...same with Rivers..in both circumstances, LT was a beast.

I don't worry about the QB position that much,under Cameron. Miami is much like SD, in that they both have no-name WR's..

I think you're going to see Ronnie Brown put up to 10 RB numbers..Cameron's offenses haven't really been the type to lean on the QB. Cameron much rather prefers to let the RB get the heavy workload...

Brown should easily see roughly 335-350 carries..and at least a dozen TDs...

Brown is one of only a select few RBs' that will not be embroiled in a RBBC situation,and that is reason enough to like him in 2007..

 
Kiddnets said:
Shermanator said:
benbadman said:
Ronnie Brown is getting selecting early in the 2nd round of 12 team drafts. Is he worth this selection. He is someon I am taking a look at as my 2nd round selection. I have the 9th pick in the the first round and know that Ronnie Brown will be there for me to select in the 2nd round. I can start up to 3 rbs so is it worth it to select him there or should I take a top WR?
Hi, how do you feel about the "Search" function on these forums?Ronnie Brown thread every other week.P.S.- 1300 combined yards and 7 TD.
STOP IT.If anything these "tweener" player picks deserve more attention. IMO, you just cant get enough dialog going about R Brown, Maroney, Fast Willie, Portis, etc. These are the players that will make or break teams this year. Keep it going. Thats what we're here for.
:goodposting: Rather read another Ronnie Brown thread than "Steve Bartkowski to Atlanta...."
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with a 4.3 career avg in the NFL, I give R.Brown props.Green is much better than Culpepper was, and clearly better than Harrington.I think the new HC , Cam Cameron , will find ways to use R. Brown much like LT , i.e., LOTS of passes to the running back..Brees did ok his first couple of years in SD, but nothing special...same with Rivers..in both circumstances, LT was a beast. I don't worry about the QB position that much,under Cameron. Miami is much like SD, in that they both have no-name WR's..I think you're going to see Ronnie Brown put up to 10 RB numbers..Cameron's offenses haven't really been the type to lean on the QB. Cameron much rather prefers to let the RB get the heavy workload...Brown should easily see roughly 335-350 carries..and at least a dozen TDs...Brown is one of only a select few RBs' that will not be embroiled in a RBBC situation,and that is reason enough to like him in 2007..
At least a dozen TDs? Brown has notched 5 TDs each of his 2 seasons. That's asking for a some major productivity increases out of a somewhat established talent. Every 1st and 2nd round RB (RB 1-16ish) isnt going to put up 300+ carries and double digit TDs.Until I hear reports from Dolphins training camp & see some preseason exhibitions, Ronnie Brown is more like RB 14-20, than an alleged top5 stud (which your 350 carries 12TDs would put him in). Of course that's the gamble of taking the second and third tier of RBs, some like Frank Gore or Jones-Drew turn into gold; while others like Lamont Jordan and Cadillac Williams leave owners severely lacking.As a fantasy owner looking at Brown, I'd be on the fence--he could be a solid RB2, but he could just as likely be pedestrian and make me wish I took a stud WR.
 
with a 4.3 career avg in the NFL, I give R.Brown props.Green is much better than Culpepper was, and clearly better than Harrington.I think the new HC , Cam Cameron , will find ways to use R. Brown much like LT , i.e., LOTS of passes to the running back..Brees did ok his first couple of years in SD, but nothing special...same with Rivers..in both circumstances, LT was a beast. I don't worry about the QB position that much,under Cameron. Miami is much like SD, in that they both have no-name WR's..I think you're going to see Ronnie Brown put up to 10 RB numbers..Cameron's offenses haven't really been the type to lean on the QB. Cameron much rather prefers to let the RB get the heavy workload...Brown should easily see roughly 335-350 carries..and at least a dozen TDs...Brown is one of only a select few RBs' that will not be embroiled in a RBBC situation,and that is reason enough to like him in 2007..
I think Green is an upgrade but I'm not sure how much this year. He spent his career as a pocket passer behind one of the best lines in the league and last year that line crumbled and he looked awful. His pro-rated sacks would have put him #2 in the league and he's going to a line situation that is equal if you're optimistic and worse if you're realistic. Comparing Cameron's SD to the talent in Miami is apples/oranges as well since he had the #1 talent in their position in Gates/LT. Having that type of talent can make anyone look like a genius. Hmmm...do I hand it off to a guy that the defense can't tackle or pass it to a guy that teams can't cover? LT>>Brown, Gates>>>>Martin?, Brees/Rivers>>Green, SD's line>>>>Miami, although Miami's wr's may be slightly better. The way I see the situation is that Green has little to no mobility at this stage of his career and behind that line teams are going to blitz early and often with little downfield threat which has the makings for disaster (see 2006 - Gonzalez). This will lead to 3 and outs/shortened drives/fewer carries. Even if you want to run the ball you need to be able to pick up 1st downs to get your RB carries. One thing I learned after last year was to avoid questionable O-line/QB combo's despite the talent of the RB (except if they are elite which Brown is not).I think part of the problem with Brown and the reason for the high expectations is that he's a talented back (more talented than some that are being drafted in front of him) but he has a bad situation which can't be overlooked. Are bringing in Green and Cameron seriously enough to double his TD's and substantially increase his yardage? I just don't see it.
 
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I am a big believer in Brown. Footballguys puts him in the 14-20 range, but I think he could be much better than that. Cameron, Green, and an improved o line with experience should only help Brown. The guy averaged about 4.2 yards per carry when healthy last year, can catch as good as anyone. I traded for him in both my big money leagues. in one league I traded LJ for Brown and Boldin and in another league I traded Steve Smith and 2nd round pick for R brown. I got ribbed in both leagues for the trades, but this is the first year that I could get Brown for that price. It could kill me, or it could make me very good. I am predicting a huge year, but if I could predict that I would win a championship every year.

The huddle which is my secondary fantasy site next to footballguys has him ranked much higher. They put him at 7. Do I think he could get there, yes. Is he there yet, hell no. I am a realist, but do agree with their analysis. Lets hope it comes true. Below is what was said...

Ronnie Brown - MIA YEAR TM GMS TYD TTD CAR RYD YPC RTD CAT CYD CTD

Huddle Rank: 7

Keeper: 7

Auction 10: 24%

Auction 12: 24%

2004

2005 MIA 15 1139 5 207 907 4.4 4 32 232 1

2006 MIA 13 1281 5 242 1005 4.2 5 33 276

Avg 14 1210 5 225 956 4.3 5 33 254 1

Proj MIA 1770 10 1370 9 42 400 1

(+Upside) Coming off his second NFL season, Brown now has a 1000 yard effort to his credit – but just barely. Brown ran for 1008 yards on 241 carries in 2006 and missed all or part of five games due to a groin injury early in the season and later a broken bone in his hand that required surgery. He still managed to gain 4.2 yards per carry on the year and his very slow start turned around by mid-season when he had four games over 100 rushing yards after week five. Brown’s production was inconsistent though thanks to his injuries and the overall problems with the offense in 2006.

As a rookie, Brown had shared with Ricky Williams and yet still managed to gain 907 yards on 207 carries for a 4.4 yard average. Last year is not a good measuring stick for what the Fins will do in 2007 and pretty much anything with Nick Saban’s stamp on it is dismissed, ignored or outright cursed. Brown now gets to play in an offense designed and called by HC Cam Cameron who engineered the offense in San Diego for the last four years. That means that Brown is now the new Tomlinson for Cameron. Cameron is shaping every aspect of the offense and none will be more closely worked on than the running game.

This year is a turning point for Brown and a chance to show that being the first back drafted in 2005 was a prudent move by Miami. Cameron has already directed Brown to lower his body fat percentage and be in better shape after Brown showed up in the off-season overweight at 240 pounds, up about eight pounds from last year. This will either be Brown’s year or he’ll have a hard to justifying his draft pick. To add to the excitement that a Cameron offense should provide for running backs, the intention is to use Brown more as a receiver than he has the last two seasons when he caught around 30 passes each season. Brown’s ranking and projection is made on the assumption that he will take advantage of a golden opportunity and get in shape to fulfill his potential. He’s a more of a risk than an established top back but he has undeniable upside in this offense.

 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.

 
I'm optimistic on Brown, not as optimistic regarding Trent Green. I guess you could say I'm in the Jason Taylor camp on him. He's a solid QB, but he's also on the edge and I fear just one head-rattling sack for him and it's lights out for his career, not just a series or a game.

I'm not expecting Green to start all 16 games this year, but there's no reasonable way to predict injury other than subjective guess work. It's my gut feeling that Green won't finish the season.

That may or may not affect Brown, but chances are, if Green is out for any stretch (more than one game) then opposing defenses will key on him and it will be much tougher for him to be productive than with Green under center.

 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
how are you willing to back up that guarantee? There is no chance that he finishes ahead of all of them given the situation he's in. Everyone one of those guys, even if he's more talented than some, has a MUCH better situation and that cannot be overlooked. I think there's a better chance that he doesn't finish ahead of any one of them (except maybe Drew).Cameron <> Lombardi and Green <> Montana.
 
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Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
care to back up your reasoning??I'll hang up and listen . . .
No need for reasoning. He is just a far superior back with incredible hands. Talent will shine through.
like last year? and the year before? I can count the # of td's he's had in each season on one hand. Why will he more than double his td production this year?
 
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Tough division to run in. I think the phins could finish around .500; but I expect their wins to come 13-10. Brown is not in an RBBC, so you figure he'll get the touches. I'm not sure I think he has any real upside. I'd put him at 270-1080-6 with 30 receptions. Those are decent #'s, but in most formats I'd rather a top-5 WR than a middling RB.

 
I can't believe no one has addressed the question posed in the topic:

how do you feel Ronnie Brown?

You feel him with your hands, if you're into that sort of thing.

 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
care to back up your reasoning??I'll hang up and listen . . .
No need for reasoning. He is just a far superior back with incredible hands. Talent will shine through.
:X Way to back up your thoughts on Brown. If "Talent will shine through" then why did he not do more with his first two years? People around here are not ok with the answer "No need for reasoning". It generally goes over much better if you have some information to back up your claim. What do Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, and McGahee all have over Brown if you had to ask me?Addai, MJD, and McGahee are all on better teams and they have all finished in the top 10 (Addai at 11 last year). Maroney and Benson are on much better teams than Brown and now that they are in a starting role are given the edge over him in the rankings.

 
I think Booker will have more of an impact on Brown's numbers than many think. Especially in the passing game. :shrug:
LOL :confused: Now that is funny! Cam Cameron is the coach, he had Turner to back up LT and Turner would only play if LT wanted him to. Brown is no LT, but Cam is not an RBBC guy. I can't believe everyone is so high on Booker. This is like Calhoun last year, everyone needs to chill on these third round guys who back up studs. Westy was in a different situation when he got drafted in third round. Booker will only spell Brown and play if he gets hurt.
 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
care to back up your reasoning??I'll hang up and listen . . .
No need for reasoning. He is just a far superior back with incredible hands. Talent will shine through.
:shrug: Way to back up your thoughts on Brown. If "Talent will shine through" then why did he not do more with his first two years? People around here are not ok with the answer "No need for reasoning". It generally goes over much better if you have some information to back up your claim. What do Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, and McGahee all have over Brown if you had to ask me?Addai, MJD, and McGahee are all on better teams and they have all finished in the top 10 (Addai at 11 last year). Maroney and Benson are on much better teams than Brown and now that they are in a starting role are given the edge over him in the rankings.
Was Ronnie Brown not a top 10 fantasy RB last year before his hand injury? Why all the RB hate, the guy is good, SJax type good.
 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
care to back up your reasoning??I'll hang up and listen . . .
No need for reasoning. He is just a far superior back with incredible hands. Talent will shine through.
:shrug: Way to back up your thoughts on Brown. If "Talent will shine through" then why did he not do more with his first two years? People around here are not ok with the answer "No need for reasoning". It generally goes over much better if you have some information to back up your claim. What do Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, and McGahee all have over Brown if you had to ask me?Addai, MJD, and McGahee are all on better teams and they have all finished in the top 10 (Addai at 11 last year). Maroney and Benson are on much better teams than Brown and now that they are in a starting role are given the edge over him in the rankings.
Was Ronnie Brown not a top 10 fantasy RB last year before his hand injury? Why all the RB hate, the guy is good, SJax type good.
Does it matter what he was for a short strech? Im interested in what they finish at. His best finish was RB23 his rookie year.
 
Ronnie will finish as Rb8 this year if not higher, so he is phenomenal value in round 2. I will guarantee that Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, McGahee will not finish ahead of him.
care to back up your reasoning??I'll hang up and listen . . .
No need for reasoning. He is just a far superior back with incredible hands. Talent will shine through.
:shrug: Way to back up your thoughts on Brown. If "Talent will shine through" then why did he not do more with his first two years? People around here are not ok with the answer "No need for reasoning". It generally goes over much better if you have some information to back up your claim. What do Addai, Maroney, MJD, Benson, and McGahee all have over Brown if you had to ask me?Addai, MJD, and McGahee are all on better teams and they have all finished in the top 10 (Addai at 11 last year). Maroney and Benson are on much better teams than Brown and now that they are in a starting role are given the edge over him in the rankings.
Was Ronnie Brown not a top 10 fantasy RB last year before his hand injury? Why all the RB hate, the guy is good, SJax type good.
but he doesn't have a qb as good as Bulger, wr's as good as Holt or a line as good as St. Louis and he plays in a muuucchh harder division. That stuff matters. He has talent and I don't think anyone is debating that (at least I'm not) but talent is only part of the equation.
 
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two factors play into how well Brown does this year:

1) the addition of Green as has already been mentioned should be an improvement over last year. if Green can be semi-effective, it'll force defenses to be honest and not throw LBs into the box, which is a big reason why Brown struggled last season.

2)what's the real situation w/ the OL? As mentioned above, the QB inconsistencies of last season allowed defenses to key on Brown. So, is the OL as bad as it seemed or did they struggle because there were more run stuffers than blockers?

my opinion, the addition of Green (based on his reputation) at first will make defenses play honest and not clog the line w/ LBs and safetys. if Green can atleast be partially effective, it'll make life easier for the guys on the OL for the whole season. all this will play into Brown having a bigger season than he's had. I can't wait to see Green in preseason ... his play will be a big indicator of how well Brown should do this season.

 
two factors play into how well Brown does this year:1) the addition of Green as has already been mentioned should be an improvement over last year. if Green can be semi-effective, it'll force defenses to be honest and not throw LBs into the box, which is a big reason why Brown struggled last season.2)what's the real situation w/ the OL? As mentioned above, the QB inconsistencies of last season allowed defenses to key on Brown. So, is the OL as bad as it seemed or did they struggle because there were more run stuffers than blockers? my opinion, the addition of Green (based on his reputation) at first will make defenses play honest and not clog the line w/ LBs and safetys. if Green can atleast be partially effective, it'll make life easier for the guys on the OL for the whole season. all this will play into Brown having a bigger season than he's had. I can't wait to see Green in preseason ... his play will be a big indicator of how well Brown should do this season.
Being forgotten is that Cameron-coached teams have utilized RBs in the passing game, and Brown did well in that last year. They'll try to get him out in space and allow him to pick up yards without having to worry about the mediocre line opening/not opening holes for him. I don't think he's SJax good by any stretch, but he's the unquestioned No. 1 back, can stay in on third downs and despite the talk of the O-line being bad, the Fins averaged 4.2 YPC last year -- with the fifth fewest carries in the league. So a lot of that was a byproduct of them trailing and having to abandon the running game. I think Cameron gets a little more creative, finds ways to utilize Brown a little better and turns him into a top 10-15 RB this year -- say around 1150 combined yards and 9-10 TDs. Not earthshaking numbers, but certainly worthy of being a RB2 this season.
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.

Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.

 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:lol: When I see him run Im not impressed.
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:thumbup: When I see him run Im not impressed.
It's hard to impress when a 350 pd DT is in your face a split second after the snap...it's all on the o-line...
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:popcorn: When I see him run Im not impressed.
It's hard to impress when a 350 pd DT is in your face a split second after the snap...it's all on the o-line...
Tell that to Larry Johnson.
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:popcorn: When I see him run Im not impressed.
It's hard to impress when a 350 pd DT is in your face a split second after the snap...it's all on the o-line...
Tell that to Larry Johnson.
Since when , Jhonson last year was running behind one of the best OL in the league .This year will be a different story, but not last season.
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:yes: When I see him run Im not impressed.
It's hard to impress when a 350 pd DT is in your face a split second after the snap...it's all on the o-line...
Tell that to Larry Johnson.
Since when , Jhonson last year was running behind one of the best OL in the league .This year will be a different story, but not last season.
Since last year...the KC O-line was not very good last year and still isn't
 
I'm not very high on Brown this year, and I definitely don't feel him.Actually I'm starting to think this guy's "elite" hype comes from his combine numbers and his one highlight run from his rookie year when he ran over the KC defensive back.
:yes: When I see him run Im not impressed.
It's hard to impress when a 350 pd DT is in your face a split second after the snap...it's all on the o-line...
Tell that to Larry Johnson.
Since when , Jhonson last year was running behind one of the best OL in the league .This year will be a different story, but not last season.
Since last year...the KC O-line was not very good last year and still isn't
LJ>>Brown
 

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