How good will my Bears be this year? (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

How do you guys see my Bears doing this season?

Returning all 22 starters from last season.

QB-They finally have quality depth at QB with Grossman, Griese, and Orton. This is the first time in 6 years Grossman will have the same OC for 2 years in a row.

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL. At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete. We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

TE-This is our bad spot with Desmond Clark. But Tim Day and Cooper Wallace were brought in to compete.

WR-Moose Muhammed will hopefully rebound and be fully recovered from his broken hand and between Bradley, Berrian, Currie, and Gage we will find a good complement to Moose. Currie, I guess, has been lighting it up for the Bears and could be our Randle EL this season with his speed.

OL-We bring back everybody and have quality backups. Tait, Ruben Brown, Kreutz, Garza, and Fred Miller start. With Terence Metcalf, John St Clair, and Lennie Freeman backing up.

D-Line-Adewale, Tommie Harris, Ian Scott, and Alex Brown will start. With Israel Odejaile, Michael Haynes, Mark Anderson, Tank Johnson, Alphonso Boone, and Dusty Dvorchek.

LB- Briggs, Urlacher, and Hillenmeyer are all coming back. Jamar Williams, Joe Odom, Leon Joe, and Ayanbadenjo backing them up.\

DB-They were exposed many times during the season and the playoffs. So we addressed the speed issue in the draft by getting a speedy saftey and Devin Hester.

CB-Nathan Vasher, Tillman, Ricky Manning Jr., Devin Hester, Daunte Wesley, and Alphonso Marshall.

S-Mike Brown, Chris Harris, Danieal Manning, Todd Johnson, McGowen, Worrell, and Slay.

K-Gould

P-Maynard

LS-Mannelly

The Bears added speed where they needed it and depth through the draft and FA. I don't see any reason why we can't win the NFC this year with everyone healthy. Don't forget that we are still a very young team with Vasher and Tommie Harris making the Pro Bowl last year in only their 2nd seasons. Briggs was only in his 3rd as well, Chris Harris started all year at Saftey as a rookie 6th round pick.

 

[freshly_shorn]

They'll win the division again, but the North is still the red-headed stepchild of the NFC. And I should know- I'm a Lions victim. I mean fan.

 

[Big Score]

They're good to begin with, then look at their schedule.

Week 1     Sep 10 4:15pm      at Green Bay  Week 2     Sep 17 1:00pm      Detroit   Week 3     Sep 24 1:00pm      at Minnesota  Week 4     Oct 1 8:15pm       Seattle  Week 5     Oct 8 1:00pm       Buffalo  Week 6     Oct 16 8:30pm      at Arizona  Week 7        -- bye--  Week 8     Oct 29 1:00pm      San Francisco  Week 9     Nov 5 1:00pm       Miami  Week 10    Nov 12 1:00pm      at New York Giants  Week 11    Nov 19 1:00pm      at New York Jets  Week 12    Nov 26 1:00pm      at New England  Week 13    Dec 3 1:00pm       Minnesota  Week 14    Dec 11 8:30pm      at St Louis  Week 15    Dec 17 1:00pm      Tampa Bay  Week 16    Dec 24 1:00pm      at Detroit  Week 17    Dec 31 1:00pm      Green Bay

12- 4 looks very doable.

 

[trader jake]

10-6

if ditka was driving da' bus they'd be 16 and oh

- superfan

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

They're good to begin with, then look at their schedule.

Week 1     Sep 10 4:15pm      at Green Bay  Week 2     Sep 17 1:00pm      Detroit   Week 3     Sep 24 1:00pm      at Minnesota  Week 4     Oct 1 8:15pm       Seattle  Week 5     Oct 8 1:00pm       Buffalo  Week 6     Oct 16 8:30pm      at Arizona  Week 7        -- bye--  Week 8     Oct 29 1:00pm      San Francisco  Week 9     Nov 5 1:00pm       Miami  Week 10    Nov 12 1:00pm      at New York Giants  Week 11    Nov 19 1:00pm      at New York Jets  Week 12    Nov 26 1:00pm      at New England  Week 13    Dec 3 1:00pm       Minnesota  Week 14    Dec 11 8:30pm      at St Louis  Week 15    Dec 17 1:00pm      Tampa Bay  Week 16    Dec 24 1:00pm      at Detroit  Week 17    Dec 31 1:00pm      Green Bay12- 4 looks very doable.

I dunno I could see a 1-3 start with L's at GB & Minny plus seattle. Then another 1-3 strech with L's vs Miami, NYG & NE. The Bears will not win the NFC North

 

[RBM]

Im extremely excited. With that schedule, Im looking for home field throughout

 

[CA_7]

QB-They finally have quality depth at QB with Grossman, Griese, and Orton. This is the first time in 6 years Grossman will have the same OC for 2 years in a row.

Yes, now all they need is a quality starter

 

[BoltBacker]

They're good to begin with, then look at their schedule.

Week 1 Sep 10 4:15pm at Green Bay Week 2 Sep 17 1:00pm Detroit Week 3 Sep 24 1:00pm at Minnesota Week 4 Oct 1 8:15pm Seattle Week 5 Oct 8 1:00pm Buffalo Week 6 Oct 16 8:30pm at Arizona Week 7 -- bye-- Week 8 Oct 29 1:00pm San Francisco Week 9 Nov 5 1:00pm Miami Week 10 Nov 12 1:00pm at New York Giants Week 11 Nov 19 1:00pm at New York Jets Week 12 Nov 26 1:00pm at New England Week 13 Dec 3 1:00pm Minnesota Week 14 Dec 11 8:30pm at St Louis Week 15 Dec 17 1:00pm Tampa Bay Week 16 Dec 24 1:00pm at Detroit Week 17 Dec 31 1:00pm Green Bay12- 4 looks very doable.

Completely agree.When the over/under opened at 9 wins this season I jumped on them. My guess is 11-5 but 12-4 is very possible.

 

[BoltBacker]

The Bears will not win the NFC North

That's crazy talk. Even if they sustain injuries I can't see any of the teams in that division being much compeition.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

They're good to begin with, then look at their schedule.

Week 1     Sep 10 4:15pm      at Green Bay  Week 2     Sep 17 1:00pm      Detroit   Week 3     Sep 24 1:00pm      at Minnesota  Week 4     Oct 1 8:15pm       Seattle  Week 5     Oct 8 1:00pm       Buffalo  Week 6     Oct 16 8:30pm      at Arizona  Week 7        -- bye--  Week 8     Oct 29 1:00pm      San Francisco  Week 9     Nov 5 1:00pm       Miami  Week 10    Nov 12 1:00pm      at New York Giants  Week 11    Nov 19 1:00pm      at New York Jets  Week 12    Nov 26 1:00pm      at New England  Week 13    Dec 3 1:00pm       Minnesota  Week 14    Dec 11 8:30pm      at St Louis  Week 15    Dec 17 1:00pm      Tampa Bay  Week 16    Dec 24 1:00pm      at Detroit  Week 17    Dec 31 1:00pm      Green Bay12- 4 looks very doable.

I dunno I could see a 1-3 start with L's at GB & Minny plus seattle. Then another 1-3 strech with L's vs Miami, NYG & NE. The Bears will not win the NFC North

The first four games we will go at least 3-1....which 37 year old QB will be able to stand by the end of the game against our Defense...Brad Johnson or Brett Favre??? If you need some help...see last year.The next set of 4 will be hard, however with our defense we are in every game. Averaging only 12.4 ppg on defense....our Offense only needs to improve slightly.

 

[mcjc4]

They're good to begin with, then look at their schedule.

Week 1     Sep 10 4:15pm     at Green Bay  Week 2     Sep 17 1:00pm      Detroit   Week 3     Sep 24 1:00pm      at Minnesota Week 4 Oct 1 8:15pm Seattle Week 5     Oct 8 1:00pm       Buffalo  Week 6     Oct 16 8:30pm      at Arizona  Week 7        -- bye--  Week 8     Oct 29 1:00pm      San Francisco  Week 9     Nov 5 1:00pm       Miami  Week 10    Nov 12 1:00pm      at New York Giants Week 11    Nov 19 1:00pm      at New York Jets  Week 12    Nov 26 1:00pm      at New England Week 13    Dec 3 1:00pm       Minnesota  Week 14    Dec 11 8:30pm      at St Louis Week 15 Dec 17 1:00pm Tampa Bay Week 16    Dec 24 1:00pm      at Detroit  Week 17    Dec 31 1:00pm      Green Bay12- 4 looks very doable.

Any of those games are going to be a 3 point spread, so they can go either way. Then there is always 1 or 2 games that cause good teams coaches nighmares. Monday Nighter at AZ or possibly Favres last game in the NFL? Week 17. Who knows, but unless they are dramatically better on offense, the rest of the NFC north seemed to improve in the offseason.10-6 and still winning the North.

 

[Buttmonkey]

Homers are such drink the kool-aid kinda guys.

About every 3-4 years Chicago has a good year and puts hope in the hearts of Bear's fans. Chicago will not win the NFC North. In fact, 8-8 is about as good as it'll get for Chicago this year.

 

[gang-wars]

Homers are such drink the kool-aid kinda guys.

About every 3-4 years Chicago has a good year and puts hope in the hearts of Bear's fans. Chicago will not win the NFC North. In fact, 8-8 is about as good as it'll get for Chicago this year.

Sad thing is, 8-8 probably wins that division. *lol*

 

[Assani Fisher]

a few years ago, the Bears seemingly got every break(tons of defensive and special teams scores) and they went 13-3. They were exposed in the playoffs as they lost at home in the first round.

Last year was eerily similar. They didn't follow up that first 13-3 season too well. We'll see what happens here.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

 

[jbird5150]

Homers are such drink the kool-aid kinda guys.

About every 3-4 years Chicago has a good year and puts hope in the hearts of Bear's fans. Chicago will not win the NFC North. In fact, 8-8 is about as good as it'll get for Chicago this year.

You are completely out of your mind. We're returning the same basic team that went 11-5 last season. An ugly 11-5, but 11-5 all the same.

We've added depth at the QB, which was a must. Now when Rex goes down, Griese can step in and manage a game. Because that's all a Bears QB does, is MANAGE a game. They don't win it. Think a veteran like Griese is going to make the same mistakes a rook like Orton did? Not bloody likely.

We've got the double threat in the backfield. These guys will duke it out to step up to take the starter spot.

Tight End? Who cares? A Bears TE is nothing more than a glorified lineman. Just block, baby.

WRs are back with another year in the system under their belt. Bradley looks to be a gem.

O-line is still solid.

And the defense. Ohhhhhhh the defense.

Lovie has this team believing they can beat anybody, something Jauron and Wanny couldn't do for more than a quarter or two. Eliminate the loser mentality and half the battle is won.

Add the easiest schedule in the league (on paper) and there's no reason this team can't make a run barring season ending injuries.

In the end, we'll win a couple we should have lost and lose a couple we should have won. But going into the playoffs we should have at least another 11 wins, a division championship and a first round bye.

Bear down....

 

[Pictus Cat]

L = 0

 

[Routilla]

If Jones and Briggs hold out it will not be a good start to the season.

 

[ookook]

I think that the NFC North is a toss-up between the Bears and Packers.

What? The crappy Packers? Yep. Folks forget how injured they really were last year. Now add talent on the defensive side of the ball and you have a team about equal to the Bears (who have a lot to build on from last year).

On 9/10 da Bears are going to get shocked trying to figure out how to score enough points to keep up.

 

[BoltBacker]

I think that the NFC North is a toss-up between the Bears and Packers.

I dunno about that.On Farvre: "I'll tell you this: He's going to be coached to play a certain way. I believe in being aggressive, but he will be coached to play within the structure of the offense. I can assure you of that", said McCarthy.

Throw in some really bad WR's and mediocre RB/OL and that offense might be below average..... just like last season.

Also, GB has holdout concerns of their own with A.Harris. Difference is in CHI they have guys to step in and fill the void even if their hold-outs don't show. GB does not.

If injuries are the supposed reason GB was awful last season I don't think adding Charles Woodson to the sitation is going to help much.

I do like their new LB corp though.

 

[Bears_Man2]

On 9/10 da Bears are going to get shocked trying to figure out how to score enough points to keep up.

You honestly believe the Packers juggernaut of an offense is going to test the Bears defense? I probably wouldn't of said a word if you'd said the Bears could struggle to score.They lost an All-Pro caliber WR in Javon Walker. They don't have a #1 WR. They have a rookie and roster trash competing to be #2.

2 of their top 3 RB's are out until July/August (one of which is a career threatening injury, the other gets hurt taking a dump). There are already reports Gado's struggling with the zone blocking scheme & he's got a lot to prove that his 2nd half performance wasn't a fluke and merely a product of having fresh legs vs. weary defenses. (Anthony Thomas can probably tell you about that)

The offensive line is still poor. Woodson's name has far exceeded his play the last couple years. And what's GB done this offseason to lead you believe Favre is going to have a better year than last??

I was all for Favre coming back, but it's obvious he lacked talent at WR.

 

[diesel7982]

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL. At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete. We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

The word you are likely looking for here is "deepest"...but I think several teams, including SEA, SD, TB, WAS, and KC would have issue with the term "best".

 

[mbuehner]

Boys and girls, this defense has actually gotten better. That in itself should guarantee contention in the NFC North.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL.  At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete.  We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

The word you are likely looking for here is "deepest"...but I think several teams, including SEA, SD, TB, WAS, and KC would have issue with the term "best".

No if I asked who was the best RB in the NFL it would be a different story...but for one team...the bears have the best backfield.....a 1,300 yard rusher.....one of the best collegiate runners in Cedric Benson and the best D1-AA runner in history in Adrian peterson who ran for over 5.0 YPC last year. Oh and we signed former 2nd round pick Tony Hollings

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

On 9/10 da Bears are going to get shocked trying to figure out how to score enough points to keep up.

You honestly believe the Packers juggernaut of an offense is going to test the Bears defense? I probably wouldn't of said a word if you'd said the Bears could struggle to score.They lost an All-Pro caliber WR in Javon Walker. They don't have a #1 WR. They have a rookie and roster trash competing to be #2.

2 of their top 3 RB's are out until July/August (one of which is a career threatening injury, the other gets hurt taking a dump). There are already reports Gado's struggling with the zone blocking scheme & he's got a lot to prove that his 2nd half performance wasn't a fluke and merely a product of having fresh legs vs. weary defenses. (Anthony Thomas can probably tell you about that)

The offensive line is still poor. Woodson's name has far exceeded his play the last couple years. And what's GB done this offseason to lead you believe Favre is going to have a better year than last??

I was all for Favre coming back, but it's obvious he lacked talent at WR.

The offensive line is horrible....The two tackles are good...but they are looking at a rookie, Scott Wells, and a 2nd year player to play in the middle. Are you serious? That has to go up against the Bears Tommie Harris, Lions Shaun Rodgers, and the Vikings Kevin Williams....far will be lucky to last the entire season.Oh and the Packers lost their best defensive tool in JIM BATES!!!! He made that defense last year. Also who is gonna play DT for the packers? Ryan Pickett....haha

 

[sstack4]

I'm a Bears fan I definitely agree we don't have the best all around backfield. Cedric Benson has done nothing in the NFL yet. It doesn't matter what you've done in college, he has done nothing in the pros yet and until he does you cannot say it is the best backfield in the nfl.

 

[diesel7982]

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL.  At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete.  We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

The word you are likely looking for here is "deepest"...but I think several teams, including SEA, SD, TB, WAS, and KC would have issue with the term "best".

No if I asked who was the best RB in the NFL it would be a different story...but for one team...the bears have the best backfield.....a 1,300 yard rusher.....one of the best collegiate runners in Cedric Benson and the best D1-AA runner in history in Adrian peterson who ran for over 5.0 YPC last year. Oh and we signed former 2nd round pick Tony Hollings

Ok. I can see this will not be an objective discussion.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL.  At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete.  We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

The word you are likely looking for here is "deepest"...but I think several teams, including SEA, SD, TB, WAS, and KC would have issue with the term "best".

No if I asked who was the best RB in the NFL it would be a different story...but for one team...the bears have the best backfield.....a 1,300 yard rusher.....one of the best collegiate runners in Cedric Benson and the best D1-AA runner in history in Adrian peterson who ran for over 5.0 YPC last year. Oh and we signed former 2nd round pick Tony Hollings

I don't want to hijack your "Bears are great thread", but I'd take LT, Turner, and Sproles every day of the week and twice on Sundays over that Bears backfield.

 

[zanti8]

lions (8-9 wins)

vikings (7-8 wins)

bears (6-7 wins)

packers (5-6 wins)

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

RB-Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, and Adrian Peterson...I believe give the bears the best backfield in the NFL.  At FB hopefully Brian Johnson will stay healthy, if not they drafted J D Runnels to compete.  We also added Tony Hollings at RB.

The word you are likely looking for here is "deepest"...but I think several teams, including SEA, SD, TB, WAS, and KC would have issue with the term "best".

No if I asked who was the best RB in the NFL it would be a different story...but for one team...the bears have the best backfield.....a 1,300 yard rusher.....one of the best collegiate runners in Cedric Benson and the best D1-AA runner in history in Adrian peterson who ran for over 5.0 YPC last year. Oh and we signed former 2nd round pick Tony Hollings

I don't want to hijack your "Bears are great thread", but I'd take LT, Turner, and Sproles every day of the week and twice on Sundays over that Bears backfield.

Thats a good argument....but thats why everyone has an opinion.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

can't wait to bump this thread when the Bears are stuck with another 6-10 season.

Also SD rb's>>>>>>>>>chicago's rb's and it's not even that close.

 

[imeimex]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

They will start 3-0, you will start a Bears UNDEFEATED Thread and they will end 6-10, and this is coming from a Bears fan.

 

[ookook]

Throw in some really bad WR's and mediocre RB/OL

This seems rather strongly worded. I think that it is outright incorrect to call Driver, Ferguson, Gardner, Boerigter, and Jennings "really bad". I would say they are in the middle of NFL and a clear upgrade over CHI.

I think they are fine at RB...perhaps a toss up with CHI.

OL is still poor though. And although I would think the DEF will be improved, CHI still has a huge advantage in that side.

I think CHI DEF/ST needs to score 2 TDs for them to win on 9/10.

 

[ookook]

Oh and the Packers lost their best defensive tool in JIM BATES!!!! He made that defense last year. Also who is gonna play DT for the packers? Ryan Pickett....haha

I would agree with that. Although I think the LB and DB corps is probably going to be stronger, but perhaps not enough to make up the loss of Bates.

 

[ookook]

lions (8-9 wins)

vikings (7-8 wins)

bears (6-7 wins)

packers (5-6 wins)

I will give you 2:1 odds that the Packers will not be last in the NFC north. Separately, I would also give you 2:1 the Vikings will nto be first.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

lions (8-9 wins)

vikings (7-8 wins)

bears (6-7 wins)

packers (5-6 wins)

I will give you 2:1 odds that the Packers will not be last in the NFC north. Separately, I would also give you 2:1 the Vikings will nto be first.

so bears win the div and lions in last is what you are saying?

 

[ookook]

Actually, I think one of these 8 combinations is most likely by a long shot (although I would also win on all "Lions in first" combinations):

Bears

Vikings

Packers

Lions

Bears

Packers

Lions

Vikings

Bears

Lions

Packers

Vikings

Packers

Lions

Bears

Vikings

Packers

Bears

Lions

Vikings

Packers

Bears

Vikings

Lions

Packers

Vikings

Bears

Lions

Packers

Vikings

Lions

Bears

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

They will start 3-0, you will start a Bears UNDEFEATED Thread and they will end 6-10, and this is coming from a Bears fan.

I'll start the Bears going to the Super Bowl thread in August. I'm no bandwagon jumper - I'm a visionary!

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

They will start 3-0, you will start a Bears UNDEFEATED Thread and they will end 6-10, and this is coming from a Bears fan.

I'll start the Bears going to the Super Bowl thread in August. I'm no bandwagon jumper - I'm a visionary!

Im right there too....im not affraid of anybody.....thats what happens when you have the best D in the NFL!!!

 

[jbird5150]

can't wait to bump this thread when the Bears are stuck with another 6-10 season.

Dude, I wish I had a nickel for every statement like this made a year ago. Remember the "Matt Leinart sweepstakes" threads? The Bears were supposedly a front runner. How many Steelers to the Super Bowl threads were there at this time last year? Nobody thought they had more than an outside chance, especially with Indy in the mix.

This year, the Bears have an outside chance--and then some. Just as much as 10 or 12 other teams in the league.

Undefeated? Nope. A contender? Book it.

 

[BoltBacker]

This seems rather strongly worded. I think that it is outright incorrect to call Driver, Ferguson, Gardner, Boerigter, and Jennings "really bad". I would say they are in the middle of NFL and a clear upgrade over CHI.I think they are fine at RB...perhaps a toss up with CHI.

The only player out of that group I'd call above average is Driver. Everyone else is well below average. I agree with you CHI WR's are nearly as bad, but the difference is that's the glaring weakness on the CHI team where as in GB the WR's aren't that much worse than most other positions.Won't even try to convince you of the second part.Jones/Benson/Peterson >> Green/Davenport/Gado

 

[ookook]

Won't even try to convince you of the second part.

Jones/Benson/Peterson >> Green/Davenport/Gado

I think you should try to convince me, as I do not see it.Green career Y/R= 4.6 with 7 of 8 seasons over 4.0

Davenport career Y/C=4.9

Gado Y/C=4.1

T. Jones career Y/C= 3.9

Benson=4.1

Peterson=4.7

TDs per carry goes to Packers RB. Receiving yards and TDs, too.

Ahman Green is a talent, Jones barely a starter. The injury hype goes heavy in pre-season. OL was bad last year too but Davenport and Gado were okay.

The best you will get from me is that it is a wash.

 

[hove]

a few years ago, the Bears seemingly got every break(tons of defensive and special teams scores) and they went 13-3. They were exposed in the playoffs as they lost at home in the first round.

Last year was eerily similar. They didn't follow up that first 13-3 season too well. We'll see what happens here.

This is dead on to what I would say. The Bears have taken an easy schedule and some lucky breaks to the playoffs and got spanked. Then in the following year, they drop like a good dump. Last year was another "good" year and another spanking. So I'm going to say 7-9 this year.

However, in the past, winning your division would get you a much more difficult record. Now with the new divisional layout, I think that only applies to 2 games a year instead of 4. So, let's make that 8-8 this year.

 

[BoltBacker]

Won't even try to convince you of the second part.

Jones/Benson/Peterson >> Green/Davenport/Gado

I think you should try to convince me, as I do not see it.Green career Y/R= 4.6 with 7 of 8 seasons over 4.0

Davenport career Y/C=4.9

Gado Y/C=4.1

T. Jones career Y/C= 3.9

Benson=4.1

Peterson=4.7

No.Comparing Greens CAREER #'s vs Jones CAREER #'s is just proof the homer goggles are too thick to change your mind. Jones is playing the best he's played in his career. Green certainly isn't and few think he'll ever reach that level again. Calling Jones "barely a starter" is a nice finishing touch though.

 

[MrPack]

They'll suck as usual.

 

[MrPack]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

Prepare to be humiliated. But that's nothing new to you guys, hey?

 

[MrPack]

Ok. I can see this will not be an objective discussion.

Coming from Bears fans, this surprises you?

 

[BoulderBob]

The defense is so young, and so deep, it would absolutely shock me if the Bears do not win 10 games.

 

[jbird5150]

If the Bears aren't 10-6 all Bears fans should be humiliated...

all those first year coaches they face....

the easiest schedule in the NFL...

And Griese to backup/push Grossman at their weak link position.

Prepare to be humiliated. But that's nothing new to you guys, hey?

Actually it is new. But I guess we better watch some Packer playoff game tapes to learn what REAL humiliation is, eh buddy? As for the "spanking" we got in last years playoffs, I don't consider a 7 point loss a "spanking".

Again, for a real definition of a playoff "spanking" see the Packers last few playoff games.

Oh wait, I can almost hear the keys being clicked by some furious cheese-lover. "AT LEAST WE MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!"

Sure thing there, pal. Nothing like rolling through a soft NFC North every year to be completely dismantled in the first couple of rounds.

...Remember 4th and 26?

...How about Favre's pick-a-thon in St Louis?

..Or maybe the crushing Atlanta loss at Lambeau, where you were supposedly unbeatable in January, to a ROOKIE QB from a DOME team?

I love it when the Packers make the playoffs. It makes the unavoidable collapse in front of the entire nation that much sweeter.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Won't even try to convince you of the second part.

Jones/Benson/Peterson >> Green/Davenport/Gado

I think you should try to convince me, as I do not see it.Green career Y/R= 4.6 with 7 of 8 seasons over 4.0

Davenport career Y/C=4.9

Gado Y/C=4.1

T. Jones career Y/C= 3.9

Benson=4.1

Peterson=4.7

TDs per carry goes to Packers RB. Receiving yards and TDs, too.

Ahman Green is a talent, Jones barely a starter. The injury hype goes heavy in pre-season. OL was bad last year too but Davenport and Gado were okay.

The best you will get from me is that it is a wash.

haha ok okAhman Green is coming off of a horrible season even before he tore his quad. Did you know that only half of athletes that tear their quad can return to thier previous level of play? Add that to him being 29 and taken a lot of punishment through the years(he is not like Barry Sanders, who didn't take a lot punishment) and you find a back that is washed up. That is why he got basically a 1 year deal in which the Packers can cut him if need be.

I like Davenport, but he has been injury prone throughout his career as well. Gado showed some promise, but he was only a backup at Liberty.

The ? I have is because Ahman won't return to form, then the packers are stuck with the other two. Who is going to play in this new Zone Blocking Running Scheme? Both Gado and Davenport are north-south runners.

Also add in the fact that your interior offensive line will be the worst in the NFL....it doesn't bod well for the Packers running game this season. Secondaries are not goin to be scared b/c Walker isn't there anymore.

The Bears

Well I do not like Thomas Jones, he has been a solid back for the bears the past two seasons. Rushing for over 1,300 yards last season....makes him more than "barely a starter" as he lead the division in rushing yards!!!!

Cedric Benson however, is the main difference because he is a special back, who will take over the reins this season.

Even if you want to say that Green and Jones are a wash; you cannot be serious in saying that Davenport and Gado are even close to Benson and Peterson.

Lets see an injury prone player who takes a dump in his ex GF's closet and a backup RB at Liberty

OR

Two of the most prolific runners in their respective collegiate levels in Cedric Benson and Adrian Peterson.

While they may have not proven it in the NFL....neither have Davenport or Gado...which then makes us look at their collegiate careers....and thats not even a comparison.

Now the only positions the packer fans could even argue are QB and possibly DB's.