How is the draft coin flip determined? (1 Viewer)

[Cawdor]

Sitting here as a KC fan, I don't understand why the coin flip comes down to Atl and Oak when all three teams have the same record, the same strength of schedule, and the same division record. I have searched the shark pool for some comment on this with no results.

The way it is now as I understand it Atl and Oak flip, if Atl wins then Oak and KC flip for 4th place. If Oak wins then I think KC and Atl flip for 4th place, so the best KC can do is 4th place. Any clarification would be appreciated.

 

[Fiddles]

Atlanta, Kansas City, and Oakland had the same strength-of-schedule in the 2007 season. Since Kansas City finished third in the AFC West Division and the Raiders fourth (the tie was broken on the basis of record in common games), the Raiders will draft ahead of the Chiefs. Atlanta and Oakland will flip a coin for the third position at the NFL Combine in February. If Atlanta wins, the Falcons will draft third, the Raiders fourth, and the Chiefs fifth. If the Raiders win the coin flip, they will draft third, and the Falcons and Chiefs will flip a coin to determine the fourth and fifth positions.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=...mp;confirm=true

 

[Cawdor]

Thank you for answering my question. I had looked on a couple of sites but they didn't state why.

 

[tombonneau]

Atlanta, Kansas City, and Oakland had the same strength-of-schedule in the 2007 season. Since Kansas City finished third in the AFC West Division and the Raiders fourth (the tie was broken on the basis of record in common games), the Raiders will draft ahead of the Chiefs. Atlanta and Oakland will flip a coin for the third position at the NFL Combine in February. If Atlanta wins, the Falcons will draft third, the Raiders fourth, and the Chiefs fifth. If the Raiders win the coin flip, they will draft third, and the Falcons and Chiefs will flip a coin to determine the fourth and fifth positions.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=...mp;confirm=true

What happens in a case where a team has traded their draft pick? e.g. Pats have Niners pick this year.If the "Niners" had tied a team for a spot, would the tiebreak go down to the Niners stats vs. Tied Team's stats, even though a team with a better record actually owns the Niners pick?

 

[Slinger]

What happens in a case where a team has traded their draft pick? e.g. Pats have Niners pick this year.

I'm sure the tiebreaker doesn't give attention to the fact the draft pick in question is in another team's hands.

 

[tombonneau]

What happens in a case where a team has traded their draft pick? e.g. Pats have Niners pick this year.

I'm sure the tiebreaker doesn't give attention to the fact the draft pick in question is in another team's hands.

Yeah I wouldn't think so. As I actually thought about it after I posted (always the best order to go about things), I realized that draft slotting obviously affects every round, not just the first, so clearly all order would have to be based on the original team's record.

 

[RaiderBones]

When is the coin flip for these three teams?

TIA

 

[ShaqAttaq]

When is the coin flip for these three teams?

TIA

Atlanta, Kansas City, and Oakland had the same strength-of-schedule in the 2007 season. Since Kansas City finished third in the AFC West Division and the Raiders fourth (the tie was broken on the basis of record in common games), the Raiders will draft ahead of the Chiefs. Atlanta and Oakland will flip a coin for the third position at the NFL Combine in February. If Atlanta wins, the Falcons will draft third, the Raiders fourth, and the Chiefs fifth. If the Raiders win the coin flip, they will draft third, and the Falcons and Chiefs will flip a coin to determine the fourth and fifth positions.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=...mp;confirm=true

 

[FUBAR]

What happens in a case where a team has traded their draft pick? e.g. Pats have Niners pick this year.

I'm sure the tiebreaker doesn't give attention to the fact the draft pick in question is in another team's hands.

Yeah I wouldn't think so. As I actually thought about it after I posted (always the best order to go about things), I realized that draft slotting obviously affects every round, not just the first, so clearly all order would have to be based on the original team's record.

It has more to do with the NFL not caring if the pick was traded before or after the tiebreaker. What sense would it make to have one order if the pick was dealt in the previous year, and a different one if after the combine?I always found it odd that the 1st round is not the order used throughout the entire draft. Different tiebreakers apply.

 

[Chase Stuart]

What happens in a case where a team has traded their draft pick? e.g. Pats have Niners pick this year.

I'm sure the tiebreaker doesn't give attention to the fact the draft pick in question is in another team's hands.

Yeah I wouldn't think so. As I actually thought about it after I posted (always the best order to go about things), I realized that draft slotting obviously affects every round, not just the first, so clearly all order would have to be based on the original team's record.

IIRC, in the event of coin flips, the teams flip-flop the order in the second round.