How many leagues still score 4 points for passing TD? (1 Viewer)

[ComfortablyNumb]

I'm wondering if 4 point passing TD leagues are a distinct minority. Aside from WCOFF, I've never played in one; how about you??

 

[Scooter71]

I'm wondering if 4 point passing TD leagues are a distinct minority. Aside from WCOFF, I've never played in one; how about you??

4 points per passing TD is the default in ESPN leagues.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Voted Other. The two I am in are three and five. Have previously played with four, but that was ESPN, as said above.

 

[Lash]

3

 

[Manster]

4 seems to be very common.

i play mostly in 4's. kinda mixed feelings about it. i can see why it's less than 6, to even out scoring. BUT my heart says all TD's should be 6 pts.

 

[gethugefast1]

Yahoo defaults at 4 points per passing TD.

 

[djjosee]

3

 

[Captain Hook]

MOST

 

[DoubleG]

MOST

At 4 points per and decent passing yardage rules, the positions are "balanced" (which is why it is the default in most leagues).

 

[Pots]

4 is the default in ESPN and Yahoo, that should tell you enough right there.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

4 in half my leagues / the other is 5

 

[cobalt_27]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

 

[Gopher State]

4 in all my leagues. Never seen a 6pt one

 

[ceo3west]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

Do you have this in a text file on your desktop to copy into this annual thread?It's not stupid at all. It neutralizes the QB's. Some leagues don't like to have the average QB's scoring 25-30 PPG. Poll results tell you all you need to know.

 

[cobalt_27]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

Do you have this in a text file on your desktop to copy into this annual thread?It's not stupid at all. It neutralizes the QB's. Some leagues don't like to have the average QB's scoring 25-30 PPG. Poll results tell you all you need to know.

Indicating a very sharp minority we have here at FBG. This is a country that voted for Bush twice. I think that's all we need to know about buying what the majority is selling.

 

[DiStefano]

4 seems to be very common.i play mostly in 4's. kinda mixed feelings about it. i can see why it's less than 6, to even out scoring. BUT my heart says all TD's should be 6 pts.

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

So a passing TD should score a total of 12 points (6 for the passer and 6 for the receiver), whereas a rushing TD is only 6 points. HMmmmmmmmmmmm...I wonder why the NFL hasn't woken up to your "heart" and to the "moral principle".

 

[GregR_2]

Maybe about 3 years ago I asked MFL support about the split in passing TD scoring in their leagues. I don't recall the exact numbers now, but 6 point leagues were more numerous than 4 pt leagues.

 

[ookook]

Seriously, pts per passing TD matters far less than the ratio of PaTD to -INT.

If is 4/-1 or 6/-2 is not ALL that much different in internal rankings to the position (and therefore value across). And both systems are good as far as I am concerned.

Now in Phenoms is 5/-1 IIRC, which is a just-noticeable-difference from the 3:1 I think sensible.

Don't mind 5 as compromise, but INTs should be -1.5.

 

[bagger]

all TD's should be 6 pts.

 

[DiStefano]

all TD's should be 6 pts.

And if it is a rushing TD, each member of the offensive line should get 6 points, too.

 

[the_Truth]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

Do you have this in a text file on your desktop to copy into this annual thread?It's not stupid at all. It neutralizes the QB's. Some leagues don't like to have the average QB's scoring 25-30 PPG. Poll results tell you all you need to know.

Indicating a very sharp minority we have here at FBG. This is a country that voted for Bush twice. I think that's all we need to know about buying what the majority is selling.

You couldn't come up with anything a little more relevant, say.....football related and within the last 6 years???And I feel compelled to point out that GWB only won the popular vote once.

 

[KGB]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

then qbs should get 0. they are not scoring the td.

 

[Glaven]

I'm wondering if 4 point passing TD leagues are a distinct minority. Aside from WCOFF, I've never played in one; how about you??

4 points per passing TD is the default in ESPN leagues.

That's how you know it's a dumb idea. Since in most leagues you are starting only 1 QB compared to 2/3/4 RBs and 2/3/4 WRs, by making passing TDs only worth 4 points you make the QB position insignificant. That's why 6pt passing TDs is the way to go. Though in start 2 QB leagues I can understand the reasoning behind 4pt passing TDs.

 

[RandyDB]

3 pts per Passing TD, 1 pt per 25yds passing

6 pts Ru/Rec TD, 1pt per 10 yds Ru/Rec combined

and still 15 QBs in top 20 scorers

 

[Uruk-Hai]

MOST

At 4 points per and decent passing yardage rules, the positions are "balanced" (which is why it is the default in most leagues).

We do 4 pts per TD and 1/30 passing for this reason. We allow a 2nd QB as a flex & didn't want that spot to be a de facto start-2 QBs. Works out pretty even.

 

[zed2283]

It always cracks me up to see these polls and OP statements.

You mean 16-team, 2 QB, 6 pt/TD pass, auction, IDP, PPR, 3rd-round reversal, decimal-scoring leagues AREN'T the most common?

 

[chidoy]

a TD is a TD is a TD..... 6 points

 

[Instinctive]

I think 4 per passing TD is dumb. It doesn't balance ####. Total myth.

It has practically zero difference...

If passing TD's are worth 4pts a piece then based on TD's alone:

Brees 34 TD = 136 points

Ryan 22 TD = 88 points

That's a difference of 48 points

If passing TD's are worth 6 points a piece it changes to:

Brees 34 TD = 204 points

Ryan 22 TD = 132 points

That is a difference of 72 points.

48 vs 72 points on the season. Which includes week 17, since i used year end stats. So 24 points over 16 weeks is the added difference if you go from 4 to 6. That's a point and a half per week. If you'd like to check with a calculator, I wouldn't object.

Do you really think that 1.5 points per week is what makes top QBs more valuable than getting the worst starter in your league? Or is it the extra 600 yards or so on top of the actual 48 or 72 points you're getting out of simply having more TDs to begin with?

Increasing the value of a TD itself has practically no difference until you at least begin to double it (i.e. 4 to 8). On the season, game to game, the difference of everyone getting 4 or 6 for passing TDs is, for all intents and purposes, negligible.

Here is what makes a QB more or less valuable: Starting 1 vs superflex vs requiring 2. That's it. Because ALL QBs get 6 per TD. It doesn't matter if they all score 40 a game, because the whole point is to simply outscore your opponent. What's the difference if the score is 121-120 vs 91-90?

If the top 5 kickers score 105 ppg, the next 10 score 104 ppg, and the rest score around 102 ppg...are kickers more valuable? No. But you just made the PAT worth 35 points, and FGs are worth 1 point for every yard! They score as much as the rest of a team combined!

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

QB scores 2 pts for being on the field any time a TD is scored.

 

[fsufan]

when i started playing FF 13 years ago it seemed like the norm was 4 PTs for passing TDs. shocked at the # of votes for 4 PT, I thought FF had evolved to 6PTs for passing TDs over the years.

3 leagues, all 3 give 6 PTs for all TDs

 

[DiStefano]

I have no problem with a league awarding 6 points to the QB for a passing TD. But it's not football; that's why we call it Fantasy Football. QB's do not score when they pass for a TD in football; the receiver does. Similarly, I have no problem with a league chooses any value they wish for a passing TD; it's Fantasy Football. I participate in one league which awards 6 points, and three leagues which award 4 points. I like both versions, although I incline toward the 4 points.

 

[fsufan]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

then qbs should get 0. they are not scoring the td.

the QB has the pass the ball to the WR, the WR has to catch it, the O line has to block for the QB

it is a team game

 

[snogger]

6 in every league I've ever been in. Wouldn't ever participate in a 4 pt PaTD, if not for the sheer stupidity of it, but on moral principle alone.

then qbs should get 0. they are not scoring the td.

One could argue QB's should only get points for yardage. The NFL doesn't give a team 10 Points for a TD thrown( 6 for a receiver and 4 for the QB) so why should Fantasy football?

 

[ceo3west]

So according to the poll, 2 out of every 3 leagues use 4 pt TD's.

this ####.

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[Uruk-Hai]

I think 4 per passing TD is dumb. It doesn't balance ####. Total myth.

It has practically zero difference...

If passing TD's are worth 4pts a piece then based on TD's alone:

Brees 34 TD = 136 points

Ryan 22 TD = 88 points

That's a difference of 48 points

If passing TD's are worth 6 points a piece it changes to:

Brees 34 TD = 204 points

Ryan 22 TD = 132 points

That is a difference of 72 points.

48 vs 72 points on the season. Which includes week 17, since i used year end stats. So 24 points over 16 weeks is the added difference if you go from 4 to 6. That's a point and a half per week. If you'd like to check with a calculator, I wouldn't object.

Do you really think that 1.5 points per week is what makes top QBs more valuable than getting the worst starter in your league? Or is it the extra 600 yards or so on top of the actual 48 or 72 points you're getting out of simply having more TDs to begin with?

Increasing the value of a TD itself has practically no difference until you at least begin to double it (i.e. 4 to 8). On the season, game to game, the difference of everyone getting 4 or 6 for passing TDs is, for all intents and purposes, negligible.

Here is what makes a QB more or less valuable: Starting 1 vs superflex vs requiring 2. That's it. Because ALL QBs get 6 per TD. It doesn't matter if they all score 40 a game, because the whole point is to simply outscore your opponent. What's the difference if the score is 121-120 vs 91-90?

If the top 5 kickers score 105 ppg, the next 10 score 104 ppg, and the rest score around 102 ppg...are kickers more valuable? No. But you just made the PAT worth 35 points, and FGs are worth 1 point for every yard! They score as much as the rest of a team combined!

If you're only comparing QBs to QBs, then I agree that it doesn't matter what the scoring is for passing TDs (within reason). However, in my league's case, we flex two players - one of whom can be a QB. If we went with a standard 6 pt TD, 1/20 setup, that one flex would almost always be a QB. We didn't want that so we damped down the QB scoring so that they would score in line with RBs & WRs. It does balance things out from that perspective.

 

[Todem]

All my leagues for the exception of one use 4 point passing TD's.

 

[VaTerp]

I think 4 per passing TD is dumb. It doesn't balance ####. Total myth.

It has practically zero difference...

If passing TD's are worth 4pts a piece then based on TD's alone:

Brees 34 TD = 136 points

Ryan 22 TD = 88 points

That's a difference of 48 points

If passing TD's are worth 6 points a piece it changes to:

Brees 34 TD = 204 points

Ryan 22 TD = 132 points

That is a difference of 72 points.

48 vs 72 points on the season. Which includes week 17, since i used year end stats. So 24 points over 16 weeks is the added difference if you go from 4 to 6. That's a point and a half per week. If you'd like to check with a calculator, I wouldn't object.

Do you really think that 1.5 points per week is what makes top QBs more valuable than getting the worst starter in your league? Or is it the extra 600 yards or so on top of the actual 48 or 72 points you're getting out of simply having more TDs to begin with?

Increasing the value of a TD itself has practically no difference until you at least begin to double it (i.e. 4 to 8). On the season, game to game, the difference of everyone getting 4 or 6 for passing TDs is, for all intents and purposes, negligible.

Here is what makes a QB more or less valuable: Starting 1 vs superflex vs requiring 2. That's it. Because ALL QBs get 6 per TD. It doesn't matter if they all score 40 a game, because the whole point is to simply outscore your opponent. What's the difference if the score is 121-120 vs 91-90?

If the top 5 kickers score 105 ppg, the next 10 score 104 ppg, and the rest score around 102 ppg...are kickers more valuable? No. But you just made the PAT worth 35 points, and FGs are worth 1 point for every yard! They score as much as the rest of a team combined!

If you're only comparing QBs to QBs, then I agree that it doesn't matter what the scoring is for passing TDs (within reason). However, in my league's case, we flex two players - one of whom can be a QB. If we went with a standard 6 pt TD, 1/20 setup, that one flex would almost always be a QB. We didn't want that so we damped down the QB scoring so that they would score in line with RBs & WRs. It does balance things out from that perspective.

Why not just remove QBs from the flex?I have not read through this thread as I stopped caring about this argument years ago. I have never seen anything that convinces me 4 pt QB TDs is a good idea and I only play in all TDs 6 pt leagues. But that's just me. 4 Pt passing TDs is apparently the norm and everyone can play in whatever scoring floats their boat.

I just never have, and never will, understand the need to devalue QBs in leagues that only start 1 and don't allow them as a flex, which I would assume is the vast majority.

 

[Jolly Swagman]

MY league scoring is better than YOUR league scoring!!!!!!