How much of a bump for McGahee. (1 Viewer)

[Bobtender]

Just heard Clayton report on ESPN that Moreno is likely out this week.

Denever at home against the Bungles. McGahee was very uninspiring last week but it appears to be a juicey matchup this week if Moreno is actually out.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Project him for ~10 points. I dropped him today before news about Moreno aired but I don't think I'd take the transaction back. Can't really call him a "good" start unless you're already hamstrung by S. Jackson or benching guys vs. a strong D (NO vs. CHI, CAR vs. GB etc.).

 

[two_dollars]

If he gets 25 carries, he could blow up for 75 yards.

 

[Joe Summer]

Bump Tebow.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Should be a solid start in PPR (will get a lot of checkdowns). RB2 but wouldn't sit a good player for him.

 

[Baron Samedi]

If he gets 25 carries, he could blow up for 75 yards.

 

[BoomBoom]

Cincy did a good job of containing Hillis down in the opener. I can't see Cincy blowing Denver out, and you know Fox wants to get the ground game going, so it could be a nice spot for McGahee to see around 20 touches. I'm sure if Moreno is out Ball is going to be a factor and take some touches, but McGahee is going to see the goal line work if they get that close.

 

[ponchsox]

Is Ball worth a pickup here?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

McGahee is a plodder. Nothing more. I thought he was better. I was wrong. My bad.

 

[ldizzle]

I would lol if he impresses and takes over the starting gig. Not likely but still...

 

[Captain Hook]

Is Ball worth a pickup here?

not unless you are in an 16 team, bestball league

 

[glumpy]

Really think I like him anyway in a Fox offense and picked him up in the contest for the value. Now with Moreno short it makes for a really tough call in my primary league as well. Would have to drop Marshawn for him though, and right now both are way more project than promise--and hopefully both would be mostly bench fodder as my RB4.

 

[dollar demons]

Knowing Moreno was probably out I still just dropped Mcgahee for Starks. Denver is terrible up front and Mcgahee is slower than ever. I just like Starks upside much better. Am I crazy?

 

[werdnoynek]

Knowing Moreno was probably out I still just dropped Mcgahee for Starks. Denver is terrible up front and Mcgahee is slower than ever. I just like Starks upside much better. Am I crazy?

starks was on the ww?? that's crazy.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Not gonna be popular, but I think McGahee 'goes off' for 100 total yards, 5-6 catches and a TD if Moreno is out. I can't stomach starting him though.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Low end RB2 or flex.

 

[moderated]

He'll average around 2.5-3 YPC, but if he gets enough touches he could be a desperation play due to receptions and a possible td.

If you're starting him in week 2 your team has major issues.

 

[Polish Hammer]

He'll average around 2.5-3 YPC, but if he gets enough touches he could be a desperation play due to receptions and a possible td.If you're starting him in week 2 your team has major issues.

I waited on RB in my draft. It's either him or Sproles at RB2 for me this week. Somehow I'll manage.

 

[moderated]

He'll average around 2.5-3 YPC, but if he gets enough touches he could be a desperation play due to receptions and a possible td.If you're starting him in week 2 your team has major issues.

I waited on RB in my draft. It's either him or Sproles at RB2 for me this week. Somehow I'll manage.

Unfortunately I'm in the same position and have a team with major rb issues due to injuries. Hoping mcgahee gets 40 or so carries so he has a chance to break 100 yards.

 

[Stealthycat]

I really like McGahee's situation and if Moreno's out I'm starting him in every league I got him in

 

[moderated]

I really like McGahee's situation and if Moreno's out I'm starting him in every league I got him in

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

 

[cubbie5150]

Mulling over using McGahee in a FLEX. My choices aren't inspiring (McGahee, DWill, Addai or Steve Smiff), so I'll likely just pull a name out of a hat. It's pretty bad when a RB who looks like he'll get the vast majority of touches a given week is reluctantly seen as a choice for use as a FLEX rather than a slam dunk.

 

[Stealthycat]

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

He's the goal line RB, he'll get 80% of the touches and catches. He's not a horrible runner and 1 game doesn't make the Denvers OL season.He averaged 5.7 a carry in the pre-season ...... which doesn't tell me he washed up.I'm starting him - you do what you want

 

[moderated]

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

He's the goal line RB, he'll get 80% of the touches and catches. He's not a horrible runner and 1 game doesn't make the Denvers OL season.He averaged 5.7 a carry in the pre-season ...... which doesn't tell me he washed up.

I'm starting him - you do what you want

No he didn't, he was under 3ypc. He's an awful runner at this stage in his career, that really can't be debated, but he likely will get a lot of touches so you're probably righ he's a good play this week.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Debating him over D-will.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

He's the goal line RB, he'll get 80% of the touches and catches. He's not a horrible runner and 1 game doesn't make the Denvers OL season.He averaged 5.7 a carry in the pre-season ...... which doesn't tell me he washed up.

I'm starting him - you do what you want

No he didn't, he was under 3ypc. He's an awful runner at this stage in his career, that really can't be debated, but he likely will get a lot of touches so you're probably righ he's a good play this week.

Yeah, you read the wrong column at NFL.com Einstein. He averaged 5.7 Rushing Attempts Per Game *(17/3). He gained 48 yards, a whopping 2.8 YPC.

Entertaining stuff, guys.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

 

[Joe Summer]

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

He's the goal line RB, he'll get 80% of the touches and catches. He's not a horrible runner and 1 game doesn't make the Denvers OL season.He averaged 5.7 a carry in the pre-season ...... which doesn't tell me he washed up.

Dude.....retire already.

 

[mdlane]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

 

[glumpy]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

Yep--this is what you got him for. I'm a fan--especially in an offense set up to run all day.

 

[Stealthycat]

I read that wrong - yep

We'll see what he gets this weekend ...... I'm starting him

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

FBGs has been bumping him daily, and he's now rated the #16 back for Week2. I don't have a strong opinion about the Bengals D yet, but they may be better than they're being credited for - so that might be a bit high. OTOH, it's hard to see where the Bengals are going to build a big lead, so McGahee should be seeing touches for 60 minutes.

 

[display name]

17 carries for 65 yards, 6 catches for another 45 yards. 50% chance of a touchdown.

 

[Wadsworth]

I sure wish I could get the trade value for McGahee that FGBs value forward suggests. I think I'm going to send out trade offers to all the guys I know use FGBs.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots. You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO. This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

 

[Wadsworth]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots. You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO. This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Ray Rice, DMC and Hillis? Of course you are going to be hind the 8-ball. This year I doubt anyone drafted McGahee with the idea that he was their every week flex play. But people get hurt, situations change and you adjust. The real question for McGahee owners is how valuable is he this week, not if RB 25-30 has value.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots. You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO. This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Ray Rice, DMC and Hillis? Of course you are going to be hind the 8-ball. This year I doubt anyone drafted McGahee with the idea that he was their every week flex play. But people get hurt, situations change and you adjust. The real question for McGahee owners is how valuable is he this week, not if RB 25-30 has value.

point taken

 

[OddibeMcD]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots. You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO. This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Some of us play in dynasties where we have to play the hand we're dealt. Some of us went WR heavy, so we knew that out RB2 spot was going to be a rotating area of guys with high opportunity. Some of us had Steven Jackson and lost the WW bid for Cadillac. You post a legit starting RB trio and then posit your hypothetical lineup against a RB triumvirate made of two first round picks and a second. Even someone who went RB 1-2-3 doesn't have the three guys you posted. There are a couple of third round RB's whose owners may think McGahee is a better option than this week (looking at you DeAngelo Williams). Dumb post is dumb.

 

[FF Ninja]

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Maybe you don't like the 12-team excuse, but unfortunately not everyone plays in 8-team leagues with noobs so it is something you are going to have to accept.That trio you rolled out does not compute for even a 10-team league.

Player/ADP: Rice/4, DMC/15, Hillis/26

So if you want to talk about things that don't roll out on Sundays, your trio is a great example.

OddibeMcD is right. Dumb post.

 

[Insein]

I'd start him as my flex. My other options would be Ryan Grant or Devery Henderson though. So I think he'll have a better shot at out scoring those two. If you have better options though, use them. Denver looks to be a mess.

 

[Mash]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots. You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO. This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

What's the point of these hypothetical lineups? McGahee is a good play this week if he can get 80-90 total yards and a TD, which are well within reason if he gets the 20 touches the coaches are talking about. By the way, you don't need stud RBs to win and if you are rolling out Charles, Bush, and McGahee, I'd assume you have some pretty good WRs anyway.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not a dumb post at all. What's dumb are people posting their dynasty rosters because majority of the time they are fixed and are not going to change so either the posts are whining because the owners are stuck having to make a weak play or are trying to pump themselves up because they know it's a bad play. I do wish their was a dynasty only forum where we could separate this because it's two totally different conversations. And furthermore once you start calling names and posting this type of crap in the SP you automatically lose the debate.Have a great weekend and good luck

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Maybe you don't like the 12-team excuse, but unfortunately not everyone plays in 8-team leagues with noobs so it is something you are going to have to accept.That trio you rolled out does not compute for even a 10-team league.

Player/ADP: Rice/4, DMC/15, Hillis/26

So if you want to talk about things that don't roll out on Sundays, your trio is a great example.

OddibeMcD is right. Dumb post.

I have Ray Rice, DMC, and Hillis in a 12 team league, went RB-RB-RB to start from the 4 spot, posted that roster up in another thread. Those ADP numbers don't go verbatim in every league.

It's a handful of players that make all the difference, I post that often in the SP. 8 team, 10 team, 12 team, it's studs that win and if you gotta go McGahee in week 2, I think something went wrong on draft day. How many starting RBs were injured last week? Foster was out but most knew about it ahead of time...Moreno I guess but was he an RB2 to begin with?

We can have differing opinions but I would hate to be shooting for 25-30 range with one of my starting RBs from here on out.

There also seems to be a major crossing of redraft and dynasty in this thread.

But let's move on, let's see some projections. What are people anticipating this week from a bottom tier offense?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots.

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

What's the point of these hypothetical lineups? McGahee is a good play this week if he can get 80-90 total yards and a TD, which are well within reason if he gets the 20 touches the coaches are talking about. By the way, you don't need stud RBs to win and if you are rolling out Charles, Bush, and McGahee, I'd assume you have some pretty good WRs anyway.

Are you projecting him for those numbers? You think he's top10 this week?

 

[OddibeMcD]

It's not a dumb post at all. What's dumb are people posting their dynasty rosters because majority of the time they are fixed and are not going to change so either the posts are whining because the owners are stuck having to make a weak play or are trying to pump themselves up because they know it's a bad play. I do wish their was a dynasty only forum where we could separate this because it's two totally different conversations. And furthermore once you start calling names and posting this type of crap in the SP you automatically lose the debate.Have a great weekend and good luck

No one was whining until you came in with your, "OMG, you guyz need Foster, Shady and ADP!111" Lulz you no have!11"Secondly, dynasty forum or not, many people have interest in McGahee's potential if he's the lead back this week against a Bengals defense which many people think isn't that strong.I'm rolling with Bush and McGahee at RB2/Flex this week because I took Fitz/Wallace in rounds 1 and 2. Can I mock you looking for a WW WR for your RB heavy team? Only a handful of WR's are studs, you should have just taken them. What were you thinking? Your argument is weak.S. Jax was hurt and is out and people may need a replacement. Just 1 RB being hurt is enough for 1/12 of the league to scurry for a replacement. McGahee might be the best guy out there.I will reiterate, it was a lousy post that added nothing to the conversation.As for my projections:High side attainable: 90 rush 30 rec 1 TDMedian: 60 rush 20 rec 1TDLow side: 45 rushIf he hits either of the first two numbers, he's a good play this week.Threads like these are the reason you don't have a staff tag.

 

[Mash]

Week 2 and folks are forced to play McGahee? He's a fringe top25-30 this week. The only thing going for him is if Moreno is out he will be the starter. People should watch Cinci, they aren't that bad right now.

And if you have 2 RBs and a flex wouldn't top 25-30 make him startable? Survey says yes.

I guess if you look at your flex spot as a gaping hole in your roster, sure. I guess I need to bump an old strategy thread I wrote about how slots should be looked at. For some reason people look at their RB1, RB2, RB3/flex as 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36...that will get you killed most of the time and certainly won't win any championships. I look at every slot as trying to maximize production and so I try to have 3 RB1s in all those slots, at least an RB1 in both starting RB spots.

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

What's the point of these hypothetical lineups? McGahee is a good play this week if he can get 80-90 total yards and a TD, which are well within reason if he gets the 20 touches the coaches are talking about. By the way, you don't need stud RBs to win and if you are rolling out Charles, Bush, and McGahee, I'd assume you have some pretty good WRs anyway.

Are you projecting him for those numbers? You think he's top10 this week?

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Here are some fact for those that care...

He had 5 receptions last week, previous to that he has only hit that number twice in his career.

He had 4 carries for 3 yards last week.

The last time he had more than 20 touches in a game was Nov of 2008 @Hou.

The lead RB in Denver the last 2 years has avg 1 TD per roughly 30+ carries

That doesn't look good however...

It is CInci, they are traveling, they might be short handed in their front 7...

What are the odds McGahee scores a TD? If he does that then it probably is a good play but if not I don't see the yardage totals that others are seeing right now. Brandon Lloyd is probably not playing, Cinci will stack 7 and 8 in the box if they think Fox is going to pound it out. What if Lance Ball is used as the goal line back?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's not a dumb post at all. What's dumb are people posting their dynasty rosters because majority of the time they are fixed and are not going to change so either the posts are whining because the owners are stuck having to make a weak play or are trying to pump themselves up because they know it's a bad play.

I do wish their was a dynasty only forum where we could separate this because it's two totally different conversations. And furthermore once you start calling names and posting this type of crap in the SP you automatically lose the debate.

Have a great weekend and good luck

I'm rolling with Bush and McGahee at RB2/Flex this week because I took Fitz/Wallace in rounds 1 and 2. Threads like these are the reason you don't have a staff tag.

So we continue with personal attacks. And you are starting McGahee, surprise surprise. I don't own him, have no care whether he succeeds or doesn't but to pretend he is a strong play this week is weak. Maybe a sleeper but he hasn't had a full workload since 2008. No passing game with Lloyd likely out, short week after a late MNF, distractions for the team with Tim Tebow, just seems like a mess.

 

[texasheat]

18 for 45 and a TD

If that makes you horny, then jump on it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.