Hows the Dolphin decision to go with Pennington looking now? (1 Viewer)

[IvanKaramazov]

Cleo Lemon gave his heart and soul to this franchise, only be tossed under the bus for a flashy newcomer.

 

[pigskin pimp]

at Cleo Lemon.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Chad Henne anyone?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

10 game improvement over one season, I'm gonna say it was a pretty good idea. Although maybe Cleo could have won 13.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think most Miami fans would be best served to avoid this thread. Penny had a rough game today, but Miami dressed Teddy Ginn a 2nd year nothing at WR, and 2 undrafted rookies as their WR2 and WR3...they will need to upgrade severely at WR vefore next season. They don't need flash but they need a bunch of new WR on this team.

Who did Penny have to throw to all season? He didn't throw 21+ Ints while throwing to Coles and COtchery, both far superior WR to anything the Miami Dolphins carry at the moment.

 

[zamboni]

Speaking on behalf most Jets fans, we'll take him.

 

[KingPrawn]

Pennington did his best Favre impersonation today. Still was a great season for him and Miami.

 

[Reaper]

Speaking on behalf most Jets fans, we'll take him.

NOT this Jets fan.I've maintained all along that Chad couldn't beat the better playoff defenses and the Jets learned that after many years.... As I said when the Favre move was made - I'll take the roll of the dice with BF AND move on from Chad...Great year but, not a lot of teams are going to fear Chad next year and at some point Miami will have to make a move and I agree that part of the problem is Chad doesn't make it easy to make that move.Nothing changed for me this year - Chad is exactly what I thought he was and the Jets still need a QB of the future. If anything it's the Miami fans that mocked Chad for years that learned the most....

 

[Da Guru]

10 game improvement over one season, I'm gonna say it was a pretty good idea. Although maybe Cleo could have won 13.

Plus we could have seen Chet Lemon at the games. They are both from the citrus family.

 

[Kiddnets]

Chad is who we thought he is!

This Jet fan is fine without him.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

You knew what you were getting with Chad. A game managing QB that is not going to lead you deep into the playoffs. I like Chad, he just doesn't have the physical tools necessary to carry a team on his back.

Nice job by the Phins staff getting the squad to a 11-5 record. I don't see anything wrong whatsoever in bringing Chad in. From 1-15 to 11-5, nice work. I expect Henne to get a longer look this offseason, but fully expect Pennington to be starting Week 1.

 

[bcr8f]

You knew what you were getting with Chad. A game managing QB that is not going to lead you deep into the playoffs. I like Chad, he just doesn't have the physical tools necessary to carry a team on his back. Nice job by the Phins staff getting the squad to a 11-5 record. I don't see anything wrong whatsoever in bringing Chad in. From 1-15 to 11-5, nice work. I expect Henne to get a longer look this offseason, but fully expect Pennington to be starting Week 1.

Chad was cheap and a good mentor for Henne. Give Chad another year.

 

[Rooster]

Chad Pennington was largely responsible for today's loss, both in terms of the 4 interception performance and in putting the team in position to even be playing today. He's given Miami fans like me way more hope than this game could ever take away.

 

[Man In The Box]

Great thread.

 

[-OZ-]

You knew what you were getting with Chad. A game managing QB that is not going to lead you deep into the playoffs. I like Chad, he just doesn't have the physical tools necessary to carry a team on his back. Nice job by the Phins staff getting the squad to a 11-5 record. I don't see anything wrong whatsoever in bringing Chad in. From 1-15 to 11-5, nice work. I expect Henne to get a longer look this offseason, but fully expect Pennington to be starting Week 1.

I give credit to the coaching for making it to the playoffs and Chad was a big part of that.However, I also blame the coaching staff for their game plan today - the deeper throws were not a good idea with Penny. Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't see why they thought this was smart.

 

[Army Eye]

It looks good. Very good. They exceeded everyone's expectations, won the division, and got beat by a better team in the playoffs.

 

[gigantor]

guess nobody wants matt ryan either

 

[davidwb]

You knew what you were getting with Chad. A game managing QB that is not going to lead you deep into the playoffs. I like Chad, he just doesn't have the physical tools necessary to carry a team on his back. Nice job by the Phins staff getting the squad to a 11-5 record. I don't see anything wrong whatsoever in bringing Chad in. From 1-15 to 11-5, nice work. I expect Henne to get a longer look this offseason, but fully expect Pennington to be starting Week 1.

I give credit to the coaching for making it to the playoffs and Chad was a big part of that.However, I also blame the coaching staff for their game plan today - the deeper throws were not a good idea with Penny. Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't see why they thought this was smart.

I think this is exactly right -- the game plan was mostly at fault today. There was no way that Pennington would have enough time against the Raven pass rush for the long passes. The Dolphins were reasonably successful with the short game -- they should have stayed with it and tried to shorten the game.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Pennington is a bridge to the team's future with another QB and a retooled roster, and he got them to the playoffs after a one-win season. I'd say the decision looks pretty damn good . . . unless you were expecting some sort of Super Bowl run out of the Dolphins this year.

 

[Jercules]

What will be very interesting to see is whether all this college-esque craziness on offense for the Dolphins is "their offense," or merely some extreme tactics they had to resort to this year due to a lack of talent.

 

[Blue-Kun]

Let me double check their record from last season...

1-15

This year in the playoffs, and they didn't get in on a 9-7 record. Yeah, I'm going with the Dolphins decision being a sound one.

I'll be waiting for your next thread asking how the Cardinals decision to go with Warner is looking now if/when they lose.

 

[Kirby]

You knew what you were getting with Chad. A game managing QB that is not going to lead you deep into the playoffs. I like Chad, he just doesn't have the physical tools necessary to carry a team on his back. Nice job by the Phins staff getting the squad to a 11-5 record. I don't see anything wrong whatsoever in bringing Chad in. From 1-15 to 11-5, nice work. I expect Henne to get a longer look this offseason, but fully expect Pennington to be starting Week 1.

I give credit to the coaching for making it to the playoffs and Chad was a big part of that.However, I also blame the coaching staff for their game plan today - the deeper throws were not a good idea with Penny. Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't see why they thought this was smart.

x2 The short passes worked all season, and towards the end of the game. Letting Chad throw floaters to the D was dumb.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Dolphin QB's since Marino . . .

Jay Fiedler

Damon Huard

Ray Lucas

Sage Rosenfels

Brian Griese

A.J. Feeley

Gus Frerotte

Joey Harrington

Dante Culpepper

Cleo Lemon

Trent Green

Having Pennington fall into their laps was a no brainer. Not sure if he's the future for this team - they have him signed through next year at 5.5 million.

Chad Henne waiting in the wings. No way of knowing if he can handle it until they play him.

 

[SupaDupaTD]

Chad Pennington was largely responsible for today's loss, both in terms of the 4 interception performance and in putting the team in position to even be playing today. He's given Miami fans like me way more hope than this game could ever take away.

Amen. No Dolphin fan is going to be upset with him for more than five minutes.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Speaking on behalf most Jets fans, we'll take him.

NOT this Jets fan.I've maintained all along that Chad couldn't beat the better playoff defenses and the Jets learned that after many years.... As I said when the Favre move was made - I'll take the roll of the dice with BF AND move on from Chad...Great year but, not a lot of teams are going to fear Chad next year and at some point Miami will have to make a move and I agree that part of the problem is Chad doesn't make it easy to make that move.Nothing changed for me this year - Chad is exactly what I thought he was and the Jets still need a QB of the future. If anything it's the Miami fans that mocked Chad for years that learned the most....

Reaper is right. Pennington's stats look better than he what he does on the field and that is because he hurts the running attack a lot. Team don't have to worry about many throws and they can stack the box effectively.the Dolphins won 10 more games this year because this team was very healthy (last years team was DECIMATED), they had a very easy schedule, they had 29 new players (and many returning from injury players such as Ronnie Brown, Ricky and the secondary) of which Chad was one of them and they had an EXCELLENT coaching staff.Pennington had a good year for what he is, but I stand by my opinion that he is a great backup but a below average starting QB. I am also tired of his stat padding 3rd down completions short of the 1st down.

 

[zamboni]

Speaking on behalf most Jets fans, we'll take him.

NOT this Jets fan.I've maintained all along that Chad couldn't beat the better playoff defenses and the Jets learned that after many years.... As I said when the Favre move was made - I'll take the roll of the dice with BF AND move on from Chad...Great year but, not a lot of teams are going to fear Chad next year and at some point Miami will have to make a move and I agree that part of the problem is Chad doesn't make it easy to make that move.Nothing changed for me this year - Chad is exactly what I thought he was and the Jets still need a QB of the future. If anything it's the Miami fans that mocked Chad for years that learned the most....

I hear you. Don't get me wrong - my agony is more directed at how the Favre saga ended than thinking that Pennington would have led the team deep into the playoffs.All that said, I think Chad got somewhat of a bad rap for his time with the Jets. With Miami, he stepped into a system that was made for him with a strong running game, protection from his OL, and a solid defense. With the Jets beefing up its OL in the offseason, I think he could have done reasonably well with the Jets. Enough to get them farther than Favre did and into the playoffs? Who knows, but seeing him do just that in Miami obviously is pretty tough to watch. At the end of the day, as you say, neither Chad nor Favre are the long-term solutions to somehow get this team to be a playoff force. Unfortunately, neither is Clemens IMO and Ratliff is a huge question mark.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Wow. I'm surprised at some of these responses. How can a Jets fan not be envious of an 11-5 record, a division title and a home playoff game, especially when they wasted a year of talent kicking bald tires and getting little in return?

No, Pennington isn't the kind of QB who will carry a team and win a SB on his own. How many out there can? But give him a great defense, a good running game and solid WRs and he could give a team title hopes. That's pretty good.

Chad is what we thought he is-- a division winner and a guy whose fans had something to root for this weekend.

 

[Reaper]

Speaking on behalf most Jets fans, we'll take him.

NOT this Jets fan.I've maintained all along that Chad couldn't beat the better playoff defenses and the Jets learned that after many years.... As I said when the Favre move was made - I'll take the roll of the dice with BF AND move on from Chad...Great year but, not a lot of teams are going to fear Chad next year and at some point Miami will have to make a move and I agree that part of the problem is Chad doesn't make it easy to make that move.Nothing changed for me this year - Chad is exactly what I thought he was and the Jets still need a QB of the future. If anything it's the Miami fans that mocked Chad for years that learned the most....

Reaper is right. Pennington's stats look better than he what he does on the field and that is because he hurts the running attack a lot. Team don't have to worry about many throws and they can stack the box effectively.the Dolphins won 10 more games this year because this team was very healthy (last years team was DECIMATED), they had a very easy schedule, they had 29 new players (and many returning from injury players such as Ronnie Brown, Ricky and the secondary) of which Chad was one of them and they had an EXCELLENT coaching staff.Pennington had a good year for what he is, but I stand by my opinion that he is a great backup but a below average starting QB. I am also tired of his stat padding 3rd down completions short of the 1st down.

And back to the question and Miami - NO DOUBT THE MOVE BY MIAMI WAS INCREDIBLE...I don't want it to be presented as if I think Miami ddin't make an awesome move and have an awesome season!!!!But, we'll see how the future plays out - with the Jets they got by with similar trickery at times like Manginis' "Mangenius" year but, then that either got played out or teams adjusted... When it came to crunch time opponents just blitzed the hell out of Chad and kept everything close. When/if teams got a big enough lead, the game was over.We'll see how the transition goes to Henne as the Miami team becomes more of a contender.I just don't think Chad beats a lot of good defenses thru a playoff run unless every other aspect of the team is Super Dilfer Proofed and things break perfectly... Next year is going to a be a killer schedule for Chad and I expect a lot of the Love Sparano is throwing around, to waiver and at some point, a thought to see what Henne has.Again, great year by Miami and Chad!!!

 

[Kirby]

How bout thier prize for being good this year... next years schedule. Pittsburgh and Tennessee. They also get to play the NFC South. 8 wins?