Hypothetical Question (1 Viewer)

[TheIronSheik]

You are 20 years old and an aspiring actor.  You get your first big break in a movie that is sure to be seen by a lot of people.  Your role is a minor character.  At this point, your parents are still alive and you get along well with them, as with many other family members.  They all can't wait to see you on the big screen and will call all of their friends to make sure they know to watch.  

Right before shooting takes place, you find out that there is a full frontal nude scene where you are buck naked, center screen for an extended amount of time.  (Think Ken Jeong in The Hangover.)  Would you take the part, knowing you would be naked in front of friends and family?  

 

[Jaysus]

Only if I got my choice of merkin. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

It's part of your job.

  

Well, you have the choice to accept or turn down roles.  And that's the question I'm asking.

 

[Osaurus]

Makes me think about Carrie Fisher being told by George Lucas there are no bras in space. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

They have all seen me naked many times so no issue with it happening again.  I just hope they shoot the thing in IMax format, I want it on a really big screen.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

So like at my brothers wedding, only on film, no sweat.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

You do whatever it takes to make it in Hollywood.  Just look at all the success J-Law and Gwenyth Paltrow have had after screwing Harvey.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Sure

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Could get frightening if filmed in 3D.  Talk about your James and the Giant Peaches.

 

[Henry Ford]

Seems like a horrible decision for your career to turn down a role assuming it's not just some "straight to streaming" soft-core porn.

"It's not porn.  It's HBO."

 

[Keith R]

Seems like a horrible decision for your career to turn down a role assuming it's not just some "straight to streaming" soft-core porn.

Yeah if its a silly non-sexual nude scene like The Hangover's, I take it without hesitation

 

[Nigel]

Have I been fluffed?

 

[Ned]

Do I get a Dirk Diggler prosthetic? 

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Most definitely - pants are not too common in my sphere of habitation anyways. 

Might as well get paid for my hobbies. 

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

I was well built and attractive at 20. Would have done it. 

Now I am fat, bald and old. I would still do it because I have no shame.

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Makes me think about Carrie Fisher being told by George Lucas there are no bras in space. 

Without gravity, it kinda makes sense - however - I seem to recall gravity in at least a few Star Wars scenes. 

Maybe George was plannin' on less gravity, originally. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

Seems like a horrible decision for your career to turn down a role assuming it's not just some "straight to streaming" soft-core porn.

Again, this is your decision.  There is no right or wrong answer.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Quick story.

University of Rochester.  I see a flyer on a bulletin board in the commons, yes such things did exist at one time.  The Art School was looking for male models.  They were paying $20 per hour back when that was an inordinate amount of money.  Also, being in the engineering school any opportunity to meet woman seemed sweet.  I signed up. When I got there they said that full nude paid $30.  I was in.

When the class finished a buxom female named Aleta came up to me and said she did not have time to finish her drawing.  She wanted to know whether I would be willing to pose for her privately, in her dorm room.  I was.  Back in her room she said she cant finish her sketch if it keeps moving and she can't turn it in if it is at a wholly different attitude than it was for the rest of the class.  She decided there was only one solution.  It was a nice solution.

Years later, more than a thousand miles away, I was in an Art gallery with my then current girlfriend.  She pointed out a sketch of a nude figure that looked just like me, or so she thought.  I mentally noted it was the pose I had done but did not mention that to her, nor anything about the experience.  I just said that seems unlikely.  Damn I looked good at 18. Damn I am a mess now.  As they say, natures first green is gold.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So for everyone saying yes, are you saying that the amount of money outweighs the issue of being naked to everyone?  Or is it you just don't mind being naked?

I mean, I get that my family has seen me naked, but I think I'd be more embarrassed for my parents having to see their friends knowing they saw me buck naked.  Or for my future kids that would have to deal with kids in school talking about their naked dad.  

For me, it's not so much about the direct effect.  It's more about the indirect effects.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Most of my friends have already seen me naked anyway

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Quick story.

University of Rochester.  I see a flyer on a bulletin board in the commons, yes such things did exist at one time.  The Art School was looking for male models.  they were paying $20 per hour back when that was an inordinate amount of money.  Also, being in the engineering school any opportunity to meet woman seemed sweet.  I signed up. When I got there they said that full nude paid $30.  I was in.

When the class finished a buxom female named Aleta came up to me and said she did not have time to finish her drawing.  She wanted to know whether I would be willing to pose for her privately, in her dorm room.  I was.  Back in her room she said she cant finish her sketch if it keeps moving and she can't turn it in if it is at a wholly different attitude than it was for the rest of the class.  She decided there was only one solution.  It was a nice solution.

Years later, more than a thousand miles away, I was in an Art gallery with my then current girlfriend.  She pointed out a sketch of a nude figure that looked just like me, or so she thought.  I mentally noted it was the pose I had done but did not mention that to her, not anything about the experience.  I just said that seems unlikely.  Damn I looked good at 18. Damn I am a mess now.  As they say, natures first green is gold.

I'm familiar with that work. 

Didn’t know it was you tho. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

I'm saying "yes" because it is part of the job. It's not being naked for the sake of being naked. It's your job, or art. I think most people would understand that.

Ok.  Easy there, GB.  I appreciate your opinion, but I don't think you speak for everyone.  No need to shut this thread down and lock it because you have stated your opinion.  Amirite?

 

[bcdjr1]

Ok.  Easy there, GB.  I appreciate your opinion, but I don't think you speak for everyone.  No need to shut this thread down and lock it because you have stated your opinion.  Amirite?

I don't think he's getting heated. He's just saying most people would understand why he did it and that's why he would say yes. He's not saying everyone should agree with him. 

 

[jon_mx]

You are 20 years old and an aspiring actor.  You get your first big break in a movie that is sure to be seen by a lot of people.  Your role is a minor character.  At this point, your parents are still alive and you get along well with them, as with many other family members.  They all can't wait to see you on the big screen and will call all of their friends to make sure they know to watch.  

Right before shooting takes place, you find out that there is a full frontal nude scene where you are buck naked, center screen for an extended amount of time.  (Think Ken Jeong in The Hangover.)  Would you take the part, knowing you would be naked in front of friends and family?  

Hypthetically speaking, just how well endowed am I in this?  Is there any cold water involved?  

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

So for everyone saying yes, are you saying that the amount of money outweighs the issue of being naked to everyone?  Or is it you just don't mind being naked?

I mean, I get that my family has seen me naked, but I think I'd be more embarrassed for my parents having to see their friends knowing they saw me buck naked.  Or for my future kids that would have to deal with kids in school talking about their naked dad.  

For me, it's not so much about the direct effect.  It's more about the indirect effects.

I don't mind being naked. Money really isn't an issue. 

I spent my 1st - 12th grade years on the stage for at least 2 productions per year. 

At a certain point, you stop being you, and become the character. At that point, most anything becomes doable - cause it ain't me anymore. Rather, it's the f'n writing. Blame that for me pecker performance. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

I don't think he's getting heated. He's just saying most people would understand why he did it and that's why he would say yes. He's not saying everyone should agree with him. 

Maybe I misread the last line, but it sounded like he was saying I should understand why most people would say you do the job.  My bad if I read that wrong.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Hypthetically speaking, just how well endowed am I in this?  Is there any cold water involved?  

It's winter and you're an Asian.

 

[Henry Ford]

Why would I care if people saw me naked?

 

[Keith R]

So for everyone saying yes, are you saying that the amount of money outweighs the issue of being naked to everyone?  Or is it you just don't mind being naked?

I mean, I get that my family has seen me naked, but I think I'd be more embarrassed for my parents having to see their friends knowing they saw me buck naked.  Or for my future kids that would have to deal with kids in school talking about their naked dad.  

For me, it's not so much about the direct effect.  It's more about the indirect effects.

Not so much the money from the present job but more about this exposure (no pun intended) becoming a springboard to more and bigger roles

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Why would I care if people saw me naked?

Well with you, Hank - bein' one huge cawk - it's kinda different. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

I don't mind being naked. Money really isn't an issue. 

I spent my 1st - 12th grade years on the stage for at least 2 productions per year. 

At a certain point, you stop being you, and become the character. At that point, most anything becomes doable - cause it ain't me anymore. Rather, it's the f'n writing. Blame that for me pecker performance. 

So you're someone who actually was on stage.  I wonder if that makes a difference.

 

[jon_mx]

It's winter and you're an Asian.

Are you an anti-seasonite?  

 

[TheIronSheik]

Why would I care if people saw me naked?

For the reasons I listed above.  

I find it hard to believe I'm the only one who would not do it.  But I have always been unique, so who knows.

 

[Henry Ford]

So you're someone who actually was on stage.  I wonder if that makes a difference.

It might.  I was for some time, too.  

 

[Henry Ford]

For the reasons I listed above.  

I find it hard to believe I'm the only one who would not do it.  But I have always been unique, so who knows.

No, I think a lot of people wouldn't.  But then, I think those people probably wouldn't be actors.

 

[Keith R]

For the reasons I listed above.  

I find it hard to believe I'm the only one who would not do it.  But I have always been unique, so who knows.

Not all of us have eight-figure trust funds.

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

So you're someone who actually was on stage.  I wonder if that makes a difference.

Yeah. At one time, I wanted to major in drama, but, I was honestly not really good enough. 

Plus, my pop wasn't goin for it. 

I did a whole - whole - lot of embarrassing things on stage - part of the deal, but, I was never naked. Being that 12th grade was my final year, we were too young to go that far. 

Honestly tho, being naked would have been less embarrassing / stressful than the singing. That was the most difficult part for me. 

Otherwise, those are some of my most excellent memories. There is nothing else that I have experienced like the adrenaline produced post performance. 

Good thread - Sheik. 

 

[WDIK2]

Is Bradley Cooper in this scene?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Not all of us have eight-figure trust funds.

This is a good point.  If you had money to fall back on, a good amount, is everyone still doing it?  I'm not an actor, nor have I ever really been, outside of a couple elementary school plays (that I crushed, for the record.)  So my mind set isn't the same, I'm guessing.

I can't think of a comparison in my line of work where my boss would ask me to do something that might bring shame on my family members, so it's hard to compare.  

 

[Keith R]

This is a good point.  If you had money to fall back on, a good amount, is everyone still doing it?  I'm not an actor, nor have I ever really been, outside of a couple elementary school plays (that I crushed, for the record.)  So my mind set isn't the same, I'm guessing.

I can't think of a comparison in my line of work where my boss would ask me to do something that might bring shame on my family members, so it's hard to compare.  

Depends on how high my level of ambition was.  I'd like to think it would be high enough that I would still do it.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

This is a good point.  If you had money to fall back on, a good amount, is everyone still doing it?  I'm not an actor, nor have I ever really been, outside of a couple elementary school plays (that I crushed, for the record.)  So my mind set isn't the same, I'm guessing.

I can't think of a comparison in my line of work where my boss would ask me to do something that might bring shame on my family members, so it's hard to compare.  

Part of the deal with being one of my family members is that shame comes with it, and in regular doses.  In fact, notably are the days that I do not bring shame upon them as those are few and far between. 

 

[TheIronSheik]

I find this interesting, because I went in thinking about one thing and other people are using completely different reasons as their basis.  I mean, I didn't get the answer I wanted, but I think I actually discovered something even better.

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

This is a good point.  If you had money to fall back on, a good amount, is everyone still doing it?  I'm not an actor, nor have I ever really been, outside of a couple elementary school plays (that I crushed, for the record.)  So my mind set isn't the same, I'm guessing.

I can't think of a comparison in my line of work where my boss would ask me to do something that might bring shame on my family members, so it's hard to compare.  

Again, money would not influence me - it's all about adrenaline in my case. 

Also, shame is relative. In performing arts circles / families, I have never met anyone that attaches shame to nudity. 

Relatedly, I also cast no judgment upon those who do relate shame & nudity, because that is the default position that is held in our society. 

Most of Europe, on the other hand, is very different in this regard. I think cultural conditioning is more influential than any ingrained human sentiment when it comes to things like this. 

I am not sure when humans first started clothing themselves, but I bet it had more to do with survival than shame. 

But, who knows? 

 

[TheIronSheik]

Again, money would not influence me - it's all about adrenaline in my case. 

Also, shame is relative. In performing arts circles / families, I have never met anyone that attaches shame to nudity. 

Relatedly, I also cast no judgment upon those who do relate shame & nudity, because that is the default position that is held in our society. 

Most of Europe, on the other hand, is very different in this regard. I think cultural conditioning is more influential than any ingrained human sentiment when it comes to things like this. 

I am not sure when humans first started clothing themselves, but I bet it had more to do with survival than shame. 

But, who knows? 

On a complete wild tangent here, but you reminded me of something:  When did humans start to feel the need to shave their faces?  And why do we still do that to this day and accept it as normal?  It just seems so odd that no one ever looked at razors and shaving cream and went, "Wait.  What the hell are we doing here?"

 

[Henry Ford]

I find this interesting, because I went in thinking about one thing and other people are using completely different reasons as their basis.  I mean, I didn't get the answer I wanted, but I think I actually discovered something even better.

A subgroup of people who will let you see them naked?

 

[Cjw_55106]

I guess Im with the Sheik. I think its pretty rare that a minor role would require full frontal. So, Im not buying that it has to be part of the job or the "its not really you" angle. 

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

On a complete wild tangent here, but you reminded me of something:  When did humans start to feel the need to shave their faces?  And why do we still do that to this day and accept it as normal?  It just seems so odd that no one ever looked at razors and shaving cream and went, "Wait.  What the hell are we doing here?"

Actually, nice tangent. I know nothing of the history, but I do hate shaving. 

I keep my neck well shaved (KY'ians with a neck beard = open season) - and higher cheeks (too thin & wispy) - but otherwise, let it grow until my mom harasses me 

And, similar to my European view on nudity, I have dated many women who have tossed the Razor entirely. It don't bother me - in fact, the opposite. 

But, I know I'm weird - like it that way - much. 

 

[Wrigley]

I WAS IN THE POOL!!!!

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

I guess Im with the Sheik. I think its pretty rare that a minor role would require full frontal. So, Im not buying that it has to be part of the job or the "its not really you" angle. 

I'm cool with your feelings, but - irt not buying the, "it's not really you" - all I can say is, try it - experience it for yourself, then share how it feels. 

Sincerely. 

 

[belljr]

Big movie break?

I was in my best shape from 20-24.   So yes?