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I know, wrong forum, but AROD TESTED POSITIVE FOR ROIDS in 03 (1 Viewer)
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BoulderBob
Footballguy
I can't believe that these players can get away with what they say in their "apologies", as everything these cheats say is scripted by the union, or MLB, or some PR agency. Then again, ESPN and many media outlets have an interest in making sure MLB/NFL/etc come out of this steroid(notice the players never say this word for some reason) debacle looking as good as they possibly can, so it doesn't surprise me. The ideal end-game for all parties involved/invested in the game seems to be centered upon getting the fans to forget this even happened, and go on allowing players to take whatever is one-step ahead of the testing curve.
It's time to allow a player to either stick as many needles in his ### as he wishes, or implement olympic-style drug testing. This middle ground is a joke. If Selig or Fehr or some mouth-breathing roider would simply come out and say "We condone the use of steroids, because chicks, err television executives love the longball" or "I used them because they helped make me wealthy beyond my wildest dreams and I'd do it again" I'd have more respect for the cheaters. As it stands, this whole debacle is souring me on the game I played and loved as kid. I'm sure Don Fehr and Bud, or Nike or whoever is telling the players what to say is mostly to blame for how ridiculous these turds look in front of the microphone, but come on...grow a sack. Just one of you, don't hide behind your union, be a freaking man...
Legalize everything, or implement Olympic-style testing, it's up to the owners to push hard for one of the two options, because I'm sick and tired of the in-between. When Don Fehr and his band of small-testicled brothers start to whine, tell them to sit on a stick. The current testing program is a joke, don't let the union, A-Rod, ESPN, or anyone with an interest in the game tell you otherwise. If that is what the owners want, so be it...it's their ball and it's their league.
It's time to allow a player to either stick as many needles in his ### as he wishes, or implement olympic-style drug testing. This middle ground is a joke. If Selig or Fehr or some mouth-breathing roider would simply come out and say "We condone the use of steroids, because chicks, err television executives love the longball" or "I used them because they helped make me wealthy beyond my wildest dreams and I'd do it again" I'd have more respect for the cheaters. As it stands, this whole debacle is souring me on the game I played and loved as kid. I'm sure Don Fehr and Bud, or Nike or whoever is telling the players what to say is mostly to blame for how ridiculous these turds look in front of the microphone, but come on...grow a sack. Just one of you, don't hide behind your union, be a freaking man...
Legalize everything, or implement Olympic-style testing, it's up to the owners to push hard for one of the two options, because I'm sick and tired of the in-between. When Don Fehr and his band of small-testicled brothers start to whine, tell them to sit on a stick. The current testing program is a joke, don't let the union, A-Rod, ESPN, or anyone with an interest in the game tell you otherwise. If that is what the owners want, so be it...it's their ball and it's their league.
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Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Oh, boo hoo. Sorry you and Mookie are late to the party, but every Yankees fan has basically chimed in here. No Yanks fan is for steroids. It's unfortunate that we are lumped in here, but I'm pretty sure A-Rod, Giambi, Clemens and Sheffield all got their roids PRIOR to becoming Yankees. As for the financial advantage, you're just jealous that your team can't/won't spend money to make the product better. I'm not going to stop rooting for the team I have rooted for my entire life because fans in KC have an inept franchise.
Wrigley
Footballguy
Pretty sure this has been covered. I say move the Royals to NY..........that would makes things a little more fair.
Wrigley
Footballguy
They may have gotten the roids before they became Yankees..........but isn't that the point, they still BECAME Yankees.
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Which makes sense in a strange way if you think about it and subscribe to the theory that steroids result in increased performance. As the Yankees arethe team best known for signing the "top" free agents in any given off season, the odds are that they were/are going to sign steroid users, as their performances would be artificially inflated
Koya
Footballguy
Kinda makes it much worse. The yanks have a signfiicant pattern of bringing in guys who have already been on roids. And don't tell me they didnt know - thats bull####.
Eephus
Footballguy
Interesting rationalization Brian
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Did you KNOW A-Rod was on them? I didn't. I thought Giambi was, wasn't sure about the others.ETA: Why couldn't they all snort coke like the 86 Mets?
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Koya
Footballguy
Know? Of course not. But you are telling me that when the Yanks went out to spend the moon on this guy, they didnt have all the resources to know pretty damn well. The guy was on team steroid. Regardless, the yanks may not have known on A Rod, but they did indeed sign a bunch of Roiders.Now, there is the reality that yeah, the best free agents may have all been Roiders. But the yanks are the reason for all that is bad in baseball, so you have to figure in that.Ahh, if only the 86 Mets were doing roids instead of yayoGiantseasonticketholder said:
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
This is exactly the response I expected.Giantseasonticketholder said:
Reaper
Footballguy
Jeremy
Footballguy
I don't think any NY fan can really appreciate what it's like to be a fan of a small market team. When CC Sabbathia was a Brewer the last half of last year, there was this amazing excitement to get a player like that. It happens maybe once in a generation. That's something Yankee fans can take for granted as an every year occurance. In fact I had to listen to Yankee fans actually COMPLAIN that we were overusing him. The ink wasn't even dry on the trade papers before the Yankees had their hooks in him. How dare we try to get our money's worth out of him. Apparently we're supposed to be treat him gently so he's well rested for when he inevitably becomes a Yankee. That kind of sense of entitlement really grates on us.Giantseasonticketholder said:
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This has always been somewhat of an illusion. Do records before 1947 mean much because there were no black players? Do records before 1920 mean much because they played with a "dead ball"? How can you compare the 50s and 60s, which had a high mound and no DH, to the 70s and 80s, which had a low mound and the DH in one league? How can you compare the AL to the NL after 1973 because of the DH? The PED scandal is only the latest data point proving how futile this exercise is.
dparker713
Footballguy
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Truth hurts?
DropKick
Footballguy
Jealousy?Truth hurts?
People don't even respect the bloated franchise.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
They sure do WHINE about it a lot.Jealousy?Truth hurts?
People don't even respect the bloated franchise.
Koya
Footballguy
I prefer to call if kvetching.They sure do WHINE about it a lot.Jealousy?Truth hurts?
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Any chance this punk adds anything to his confession today?
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I don't think its really a rationalization....even assuming they knew all the guys were Roiders, the Yankees (for better or worse) were basically backed into a corner....either sign the best FAs money can buy and feed the beast or stand pat (and remember they basically haven't had a good farm system since 2000) and suck. Having said that, why anyone thinks these guys were clean on the Yankees is beyond me. Hell, I said this earlier in the thread, but no one's even mentioned the fact that Orza supposedly tipped off A-rod in 2004 to a test. I think its more than a little polly-annish to think these guys stopped using the second they put on the vaunted pinstrips. There's a reason singing FAs older than 30 sucked as a strategy in the 70s-80s-and early 90s and suddenly started working in the late 90s and 00s, and its not b/c these guys suddenly stopped using Roids as soon as they sign a FA contract (and that goes for any of these big spending teams).
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Oh, I doubt they magically stopped when they got to the YanksI think many switched to HGHI think some players (Yankees or otherwise) who used before DID stop once testing started, but the users are always ahead of the testers
skillz
Footballguy
The media is going to be all over his cousin now to figure out where he got the drugs, how many times Alex took them, etc. He basically outted the guy as a drug trafficker. Oh, and he has also said he was "young and stupid" for the 50th time now.ARod tearing up about his teammatesMentioned he injected stuff 2 times a month that his cousing supplied.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
....pass me the microphone....
"DUDE.....Rafael Palmeiro is NOT your cousin"
"DUDE.....Rafael Palmeiro is NOT your cousin"
skillz
Footballguy
And I'm sure the media will track A-Rod's cousin down to verify whether his story is true or not. Any decent reporter is going to follow through on his story and not rely solely on his version of events if others are involved who may say something different.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Unless he just made up this cousin
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The Ghost of Common
Guest
and Arod taking the Clemens route and not answering the question asked."It goes back to being young..."huh, what?
shadyridr
Footballguy
I was young and stupid
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
side note---Local talk radio mentioned a chapter in the upcoming ARod book about "his struggles with his sexuality" (NTTAWWT). It will be interesting to see the spin/reaction about him in light of steroids, his contract and MLB record book.-back to regularly scheduled programming....
culdeus
Footballguy
Not unless the US Govt. mandates markers be placed in HGH. They have done this with some other blood boosters because the USOC and other drug enforcement bodies wanted them to and it has worked so far. There are not many people that can manufacture HGH and slapping an easily detectable marker would shut this down fast, but some don't want this to happen....
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Francesca is ripping the press conference - says it wasn't an interview - and is talking nonstop about "Cousin Vinny." I am surprised that Alex was as specific as saying it was a cousin vs. just someone he was close to, which could make it a little harder to track the guy down.
skillz
Footballguy
That's because Alex is dumb. He didn't say it was "someone I was close to" because that statement wasn't written by his PR guys on the piece of paper he had with him. Anytime he has had to go off the cuff on the issue he has either said something stupid or simply says "I was young and naive" (even though he was already in the majors for several years by 2001 and was 24 -- not exactly a rookie or straight out of high school when 2001 came around).Also I didn't realize Selena Roberts is writing a book about A-Rod right now. Should be interesting to see what else she drags up that hasn't been mentioned yet in the media.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
yes, i believe it is being released around april 15. i didn't hear the interview, but she was on wfan last week with kim jones and evan roberts- it may be available on the web site. roberts was complaining yesteday that she was being coy about answering whether there were any bombshells in it. she gave some answer like "i don't know what constitutes a bombshell, but i hope people find it interesting. i think he also said the release date was moved up.p.s. - doesn't alex have enough money to hire smart p.r. guys?
Michael Brown
Footballguy
This wouldn't be surprising in the least. He doesn't exude prototypical masculinity, and it would certainly explain a lot of his insecurities. Surrounded by a very "macho" lifestyle all the time would be very tough on someone in that position. Also gives more credence to the strippers who said during the strip club fiasco that he was more into the "masculine, she-male types".Also explains why he dated a 55 year old man named Madonna last year.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
The best part of this performance was that he got his age wrong. No doubt on purpose to make him sound "younger" and "stupider" during the time he was in Texas.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Holy #### ARod.ETA: Way to own up to slandering Selena Roberts. Stay classy jagoff. 
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=Smackdown=
Footballguy
My favorite part of yesterday’s press conference:
When he goes to thank his teammates for being there and supporting him . . . he almost breaks down – the blue lip quivers . . . the camera cuts to the front row to see Jeter, Pettitte, etc . . . . .the ONLY thing missing would have been Suzyn Waldman sobbing in the background being consoled by John Sterling.
When he goes to thank his teammates for being there and supporting him . . . he almost breaks down – the blue lip quivers . . . the camera cuts to the front row to see Jeter, Pettitte, etc . . . . .the ONLY thing missing would have been Suzyn Waldman sobbing in the background being consoled by John Sterling.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Michael Brown
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
there was some kind of talk on WEEI today about A-Rod tipping pitches of teammates? is that something that's been reported from his book too?
Wrigley
Footballguy
This just keeps getting better
dparker713
Footballguy
Said he tipped 15%. Sure, thats not a big tip, but its not crappy and certainly not low enough to be hated. Those Hooters b###### need a reality check.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Whatever you think of A-Rod, his clutch abilities, steroids, or his photographs kissing himself, one thing is obvious...
If he really tipped pitches to opponents in blowout games, he's a disgrace. I say that with no hyperbole -- if this guy is doing stuff like this, and other players were reciprocating, they're all disgusting.
If he really tipped pitches to opponents in blowout games, he's a disgrace. I say that with no hyperbole -- if this guy is doing stuff like this, and other players were reciprocating, they're all disgusting.
blackjack23
Footballguy
yeah thats worse than the steroids IMO. I wonder how many selfish players do this?
They expect big tips for all of the personal service you get.
