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I need new cookware. (1 Viewer)

AhrnCityPahnder

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Looking to replace our original set with something halfway decent. Can/Will spend a couple hundred bucks, maybe more if I should. No clue on where to begin.

help on what to look for or what to avoid?

 
Calphalon.

Check the deals on the 10" and 12" pans. A lot of places sell these items for a song. Those are the two items you will use the most. Buy those where you can for the cheap and then pick up the other items you need as you go. They last forever so get the items you need cheap and add what you need as you go. the only bad news is that they can't go in the dishwasher....Other than that I'm a huge fan.

While I'm all over the grilling threads, I actually am a better cook in the kitchen than on the grill. I'm a Calphalon fan....

 
We've got the Calphalon Tri Ply stainless set. We really dig it. I have to admit that I've never had another set of nice cookware, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.

 
should I assume more expensive is better? I see the one Bentley linked is dishwasher safe -- that's pretty important.
I think I heard somewhere that dishwashers are not good with teflon. That and they make cookie sheets rust. :confused: I hand wash the pots and pans when I do dishes...
 
should I assume more expensive is better? I see the one Bentley linked is dishwasher safe -- that's pretty important.
I think I heard somewhere that dishwashers are not good with teflon. That and they make cookie sheets rust. :thumbdown: I hand wash the pots and pans when I do dishes...
I'm fine with a cookie sheet rusting every couple years if it means I don't have to hand wash it. Pots and pans have to be able to go in the dishwasher. I hate handwashing.

according to wiki:

Calphalon is a brand of cookware products owned by Newell Rubbermaid. Calphalon cookware has stick-resistant surfaces made of anodized aluminium rather than the more common Teflon-style coating. Calphalon also produces more traditional non-stick coated cookware. There are four major lines currently in production: Calphalon One, Contemporary, Everyday (Tri-Ply/Nonstick) and the low-end Calphalon variant Kitchen Essentials. Calphalon pans feature either an aluminum core, which provides fast, even heating, or a stamp-forged aluminum disk to provide the additional heat dispersion.
I'm not sure what that means as far as the dishwasher goes.
 
I can't believe nobody mentioned All-Clad. For a cheaper set, they have the Emeril line which gets rated pretty well for the price. I think there are some issues with quality being inconsistent since that line is made in China. That and it has Emeril on every piece. No thanks.

I am holding out for the higher end lines. They are costly, but like Calphalon, you will have them for life.

 
Calphalon.

Check the deals on the 10" and 12" pans. A lot of places sell these items for a song. Those are the two items you will use the most. Buy those where you can for the cheap and then pick up the other items you need as you go. They last forever
They're supposed to. My wife got a set a couple of years ago and although we've done everything that we are supposed to do in terms of care etc a couple of the pans are not holding up.
 
I can't believe nobody mentioned All-Clad. For a cheaper set, they have the Emeril line which gets rated pretty well for the price. I think there are some issues with quality being inconsistent since that line is made in China. That and it has Emeril on every piece. No thanks. I am holding out for the higher end lines. They are costly, but like Calphalon, you will have them for life.
I just recently decided that I am going to start purchasing some All-Clad one piece at a time. I don't know that there will ever come a day, where I decide that I can afford to get a full set, but if I do a pan here, a pot there, eventually I'll have it, and it will last me a lifetime.
 
The catchphrase, last time I looked, was "18/10 stainless steel", and most manufacturers now offer a line of that guage, with extra heavy bottoms for heat distribution. I got several pieces of those from HSN when they first really started coming out several years ago and have been real pleased with them.

That said, you will likely find that you prefer some pans/pots of one type or another depending on how you cook. I've got several Calphalon cast aluminum pans and baking trays and wouldn't trade them for anything, including my egg pans which have to be absolutely non stick. Those replaced my cast iron--primarily because I preferred the weight and shape though; nothing wrong with the cast iron.

My old, tried and true standby is the classic Revereware with the copper bottoms. I've got many of those which are 50 years old or more, having inherited them from my parents and inlaws after also having bought them as my starter set--and they still look and work perfectly for everyday, all purpose cooking. Most of my soup pots are that style, almost all the utility pots and a couple pans. I don't think they make them the same anymore, of course, but have picked up one saucepan in the newer style with clad bottom and it's a good one.

 
Calphalon.

Check the deals on the 10" and 12" pans. A lot of places sell these items for a song. Those are the two items you will use the most. Buy those where you can for the cheap and then pick up the other items you need as you go. They last forever so get the items you need cheap and add what you need as you go. the only bad news is that they can't go in the dishwasher....Other than that I'm a huge fan.

While I'm all over the grilling threads, I actually am a better cook in the kitchen than on the grill. I'm a Calphalon fan....
This is what kills them for me.
 
I'd really like to find a great, non-stick 11-inch griddle. Mine is on the outs. And it's got to be able to be washed in the dish washer.

Does any one have a suggestion of a pan that's been good to them?

 
I just purchased the Anolon advanced set on Amazon for $199 based on Consumer Reports rating and Amazon customer reviews.

Here is consumer reports top 10:

1 Kirkland Signature (Costco) Item 783634 CR Best Buy $150 14 anodized aluminum

2 Anolon Titanium 300 10 anodized aluminum/titanium

3 Anolon Advanced 200 8 anodized aluminum

4 Emerilware 250 10 anodized aluminum

5 Scanpan Classic 20203 400 8 • aluminum/titanium

6 Wearever Excellence 100 8 • aluminum

7 Bialetti Fusion 45459 50 9 • aluminum

8 Berndes Signo Classic 697101 200 5 • aluminum

9 Circulon Elite 250 10 anodized aluminum

10 Farberware Select Non-Stick 100 10 enamel/aluminum

 
I can't believe nobody mentioned All-Clad. For a cheaper set, they have the Emeril line which gets rated pretty well for the price. I think there are some issues with quality being inconsistent since that line is made in China. That and it has Emeril on every piece. No thanks. I am holding out for the higher end lines. They are costly, but like Calphalon, you will have them for life.
All-Clad Stainless-Steel 14-Piece Cookware SetPrice: $1,069.95 :cry: We can rule these out. I'm not dropping $1100+ on pans.
 
Last year, I was trying to decide between All-Clad and Calphalon - and the deciding factor was that Bed, Bath and Beyond's 20% off coupons don't apply to All-Clad. Got an 8-piece set of Caphalon for a steal with that coupon.

And, no, you can't put them in the dishwasher, but they are SUPER easy to handwash. I'm as lazy as they come re: handwashing dishes, but I have no problem with the Calphalon.

 
Yesterday I was looking at some calphalon pans, the lady in the story said not to use them over high heat, or we'll ruin them. It doesn't make any sense to me to have pots and pans you can't use over high heat. maybe this was bad information, but something to consider on top of no dishwasher.

 
If you do want to go the Calphalon route then I suggest you look at your local Marshall's or TJMaxx. I got a pan at TJMaxx for a great price a few months ago. I was in there the other day and they seem to still have a good supply of them.

 
I am a huge All-Clad fan. I have bought my set piece by piece. The best place to buy it is at TJ Maxx if you have those in your area. Tuesday Morning carries them sometimes as well, but TJ has the best prices. I have 5 pieces now and have spend maybe $300

 
I am a huge All-Clad fan. I have bought my set piece by piece. The best place to buy it is at TJ Maxx if you have those in your area. Tuesday Morning carries them sometimes as well, but TJ has the best prices. I have 5 pieces now and have spend maybe $300
Thanks for the above posting, I will give TJ Maxx a shot. Amazon has deals on individual pieces once in awhile too.
 
All Clad fan here.

Other advice would be to NOT buy a set. Buy it piece by piece and get exactly what you want.

J

 
yeah sets are a waste of time.

to cook I have the bare minimum set which consists of

a cast iron dutch oven (must have)

3 stainless steel pots (any will do, we have a good quality copper bottom type) 1 large, 1 medium, 1 medium small

2 saute/fry pans (anodized non stick) any brand works these tend to wear out and get a lot of use, so we just replace them every year with new ones.

you can buy a dutch oven for $1 at a thrift store, you will spend some money on your good quality stainless and the saute -nonstick fry pans are about $20 at your local dept store.

no pan ever goes in the dishwasher, unless you want to keep buying pans over and over. You must handwash, even the ones that say dishwasher safe, if I wanted to keep them for a long time, I wouldn't put them in the dishwasher.

 
I just purchased the Anolon advanced set on Amazon for $199 based on Consumer Reports rating and Amazon customer reviews.
We have Anolon Advanced cookware that we got as a wedding give about 4.5 years ago, and it's still as good as new, despite getting pretty heavy use. No idea if it can go in the dishwasher, but it's got a very effective non-stick coating, and it rarely takes much effort to get them clean in the sink. IIRC, it costs less than Calphalon, too.
 
I can't believe nobody mentioned All-Clad. For a cheaper set, they have the Emeril line which gets rated pretty well for the price. I think there are some issues with quality being inconsistent since that line is made in China. That and it has Emeril on every piece. No thanks. I am holding out for the higher end lines. They are costly, but like Calphalon, you will have them for life.
When I was first married I had the hard anodized Calphlon set. You cannot wash it in the dishwasher (unless you are okay with voiding the warranty) and I seemed to have messed up the non-stick coating of a couple of the pans (the two I used the most, of course). I replaced the messed up pans and still had problems so I decided no more Calphlon. I went with the copper core All Clad set and while it is dishwasher safe it loses its luster, but other than that it is a great set. I would have definitely started with copper core set if I would have known what a great product it was.
 
What I use the most:

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92131-...c2-saucier.aspx 3 quart size. The saucier is a great pan / shape. sloped on the sides and not as deep. I use this every morning for oatmeal. And it's used a ton for regular cooking.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92114-...c2-fry-pan.aspx in the 12" size. The go to standard frying pan.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/95125-...rench-oven.aspx in the 9 quart size. This is the go to pot for everything "big". Gumbos, pasta sauces, stews, red beans and rice, soups, pot roast etc all go here. It's expensive but worth it I think. Fantastic piece of equipment.

If it were me, I'd save up and get these 3 things. That covers a ton of what I cook.

For the All Clad, I have different stuff from their different lines. It's all good. The copper core is supposed to be the best and that's what my frying pan is. But I'm not sure it's that much better than their other lines.

Everything is hand wash. Just get used to that.

J

 
Also arhn,

I'd avoid anything non stick. Just go with the regular stainless steel. Get used to using oil where you need to and you won't need the non stick. It'll become naturally non stick. And should last forever.

The non stick eventually goes away and I don't trust the chemicals. Plus you don't really need it.

What you're buying here is going to last you for a long time. You'll hand this cookware down to your kids someday.

The one thing I do like a non stick pan for is cooking eggs. I have a cheaper 10" non stick pan I use for that.

J

 
Joe Bryant said:
What I use the most:

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92131-...c2-saucier.aspx 3 quart size. The saucier is a great pan / shape. sloped on the sides and not as deep. I use this every morning for oatmeal. And it's used a ton for regular cooking.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92114-...c2-fry-pan.aspx in the 12" size. The go to standard frying pan.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/95125-...rench-oven.aspx in the 9 quart size. This is the go to pot for everything "big". Gumbos, pasta sauces, stews, red beans and rice, soups, pot roast etc all go here. It's expensive but worth it I think. Fantastic piece of equipment.

If it were me, I'd save up and get these 3 things. That covers a ton of what I cook.

For the All Clad, I have different stuff from their different lines. It's all good. The copper core is supposed to be the best and that's what my frying pan is. But I'm not sure it's that much better than their other lines.

Everything is hand wash. Just get used to that.

J
Le-Creuset is great.
 
Joe Bryant said:
What I use the most:

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92131-...c2-saucier.aspx 3 quart size. The saucier is a great pan / shape. sloped on the sides and not as deep. I use this every morning for oatmeal. And it's used a ton for regular cooking.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92114-...c2-fry-pan.aspx in the 12" size. The go to standard frying pan.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/95125-...rench-oven.aspx in the 9 quart size. This is the go to pot for everything "big". Gumbos, pasta sauces, stews, red beans and rice, soups, pot roast etc all go here. It's expensive but worth it I think. Fantastic piece of equipment.

If it were me, I'd save up and get these 3 things. That covers a ton of what I cook.

For the All Clad, I have different stuff from their different lines. It's all good. The copper core is supposed to be the best and that's what my frying pan is. But I'm not sure it's that much better than their other lines.

Everything is hand wash. Just get used to that.

J
Le-Creuset is great.
I thought it was nuts to pay that much for a pot but I found a great price. They're out there if you look around. There is also an outlet in South Carolina if you're traveling that way.The advantage of it is the white enameled inside lets you see how things are cooking. Much easier to do a roux for a gumbo when it's white instead of a black cast iron bottom.

Again, it's something that I hope to hand down to my kids one day. When you look at it like that, the cost isn't as big a deal.

J

 
I guess what I'm saying above too is that I'd rather take $400 and spend it on those 3 pans instead of $300 on a 12 pc set where I didn't like any of the pieces.

Cookware is one of the (many) areas I think where the "fewer pieces but higher quality" really is true.

J

 
And I'll also say, a lot of the cookware thing is just personal experience. I like using equipment that works well and is quality. But it's 95% the cook. You can give a good cook crappy cookware and he'll still do great.

J

 
Joe Bryant said:
Limp Dogg Bizkits said:
They carry La Crueset at TJ Maxx as well. I buy ALL of my cookware there.
Cool. Thanks - I did not know this.J
I'm sure it s a store by store thing, based on availability. They had a really nice dutch oven there that had a scratch or chip in it so it was marked down 50%. I almost got it but am probably going to go cast iron for that as I like to cook on my Big Green Egg and am not sure how the La Crueset would hold up.
 
Joe Bryant said:
What I use the most:

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92131-...c2-saucier.aspx 3 quart size. The saucier is a great pan / shape. sloped on the sides and not as deep. I use this every morning for oatmeal. And it's used a ton for regular cooking.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/92114-...c2-fry-pan.aspx in the 12" size. The go to standard frying pan.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/95125-...rench-oven.aspx in the 9 quart size. This is the go to pot for everything "big". Gumbos, pasta sauces, stews, red beans and rice, soups, pot roast etc all go here. It's expensive but worth it I think. Fantastic piece of equipment.

If it were me, I'd save up and get these 3 things. That covers a ton of what I cook.

For the All Clad, I have different stuff from their different lines. It's all good. The copper core is supposed to be the best and that's what my frying pan is. But I'm not sure it's that much better than their other lines.

Everything is hand wash. Just get used to that.

J
Thanks! I just added all three of these to my Christmas list. I think these will handle most of my needs.Ive been wanting to replace my non-stick set baesd on what Ive read. I got a beautiful stainless steel wok last year and use it all the time.

 
And I'll also say, a lot of the cookware thing is just personal experience. I like using equipment that works well and is quality. But it's 95% the cook. You can give a good cook crappy cookware and he'll still do great. J
I agree pretty much wholeheartedly with what you've said. Sets typically end up where you're paying for a couple of the pieces that don't get used (like a double boiler in some sets) and you might end up with the ones you want in sizes that don't suit your needs. I have a very mismatched set of pots including some Calphalon, some cast iron, some All-Clad, and a couple of cheap nonstick ones. I will say that a good cook can cook with most cookware but if you are a fledgling cook it pays to have better equipment as it is a lot harder to burn something into charcoal, etc. if you don't have some paper thin pots that burn everything. The one area of cookware that a good cook can't really do without though is knives, but that is a different topic. Whenever I go to anyone else's house and help out in the kitchen and find a bunch of worthless knives I know that it's going to be a royal pain to deal with. It pains me to see someone spend the price of a good 8" chef knife on a set of worthless junk that won't cut anything. Anyhow, back on topic. Definitely buy the pots you need including a 12" skillet, a couple of saucepans (2-3 qt), and as large of a Dutch oven as one can afford. A cast iron skillet, and an inexpensive nonstick skillet for eggs/omelets should round out the bunch. As one needs pieces, add to the collection or put them on Xmas lists. Sets are a bad, bad idea unless you have the $$$ to buy a set of really nice stuff and break the bank. Amazon has great prices on individual pots from Calphalon and All-Clad and often have deals on shipping as well. I've bought much of my Calphalon stuff from Amazon.Ebay is another location that one can sometimes find some deals. I've seen good prices on Le Creuset stockpots on eBay, both new and used. They last forever.
 
We got a bunch of gift cards to Macys and Williams and Sonoma for wedding gifts. Have to use a couple of them todayby end of day Monday to take advantage of a significant Macy's discount (20% off for friends and family - not sure of the details). Recently married, no kids yet, don't plan on having more than two when all is said and done. We have about $500 on gift cards at Macy's and another few hundred at Williams and Sonoma. I'd be willing to go over that to get the pans we want. I'd rather get good pans that will last a long time than spend the money on housewares or something else that she'd find to spend them on.

Right now, I'm leaning towards all-clad stainless steel, and buying pieces individually instead of the set. Which pieces should we be leaning towards first time around?

frying pans - Should we buy two? Which ones? 8, 10, 12 inch?

saucepans - Is it good to have both 2 qt and 4 qt?

saute pan - 4qt or 6qt? how important is this compared to a saucepan or frying pan?

roasting pan

spaghetti kettle (can't remember the real name)

What else would we need? Also, any advice on knives?

 
I guess what I'm saying above too is that I'd rather take $400 and spend it on those 3 pans instead of $300 on a 12 pc set where I didn't like any of the pieces.

Cookware is one of the (many) areas I think where the "fewer pieces but higher quality" really is true.

J
;) I have a few Calphalon hard-anodized pieces, a 1 1/2Q pot, a 10" saute pan and a saucier that are absolutely indispensable.

Four cast iron skillets and a Dutch oven that I *love* because they don't stick (and if they di I just re-season them and good to go), handle high heat perfectly, hold a temperature, and are durable as all get-out.

I also have some decent-but-not-great stainless pots that I use for sauces, pasta, etc. that do everything I want them to do, as well as 1 quart and 10 quart commercial grade stainless pots that my grandchildren will have a tough time destroying.

 

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